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* [[AllStarCast All Star Cameo]]: "Sons of Winter and Stars" features a choir consisting of members of Music/{{Ensiferum}}, Music/{{Turisas}}, Týr and Kiuas.
* DevelopmentHell: ''Time''. The first half of the album spent multiple years in development that left an eight-year gap since the SelfTitledAlbum. ''Time II'' was talked about, but in February 2023 the band stated in a Facebook post that they had moved on to other projects and it was no longer in active development.

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* [[AllStarCast All Star Cameo]]: AllStarCast: "Sons of Winter and Stars" features a choir consisting of members of Music/{{Ensiferum}}, Music/{{Turisas}}, Týr and Kiuas.
* DevelopmentHell: ''Time''. The first half of the album spent multiple years in development that left an eight-year gap since the SelfTitledAlbum. ''Time II'' was talked about, but in February 2023 the band stated in a Facebook post that they had moved on to other projects and it was no longer in active development.
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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Time I'' finally saw the light in 2012, eight full years after the SelfTitledAlbum. Now waiting for ''Time II''...

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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Time I'' finally saw ''Time''.
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the light in 2012, eight full album spent multiple years after in development that left an eight-year gap since the SelfTitledAlbum. Now waiting for The album was originally announced in 2006, but didn't see the light of day until 2012.
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''Time II''...II'' was talked about after the release of part 1, and then nothing happened, with the band ultimately releasing the NatureMetal ConceptAlbum ''The Forest Seasons'' in 2017 instead. In February 2023 the band stated in a Facebook post that they had moved on to other projects and ''Time II'' was no longer in active development. However, the announcement and the subsequent single "Warning" were met with derision from fans on social media (compounded by the fact the band had earlier crowdfunded a new recording studio, leading to some fraud accusations), which evidently was the kick in the pants that Jari needed: the band announced in January 2024 that they had finally finished the album after a SequelGap of twelve years.

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* DevelopmentHell: ''Time''.
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* DevelopmentHell: ''Time''.
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''Time''. The first half of the album spent multiple years in development that left an eight-year gap since the SelfTitledAlbum. ''Time I'' finally saw II'' was talked about, but in February 2023 the light! Now waiting for ''Time II''...band stated in a Facebook post that they had moved on to other projects and it was no longer in active development.


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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Time I'' finally saw the light in 2012, eight full years after the SelfTitledAlbum. Now waiting for ''Time II''...
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* HeAlsoDid: Music/{{Nightwish}} has started to attract jokes that they're trying to absorb Wintersun entirely: Kai Hahto started as a fill-in drummer for Jukka Nevalainen in 2015 and ended up joining them permanently, resulting in his role in Wintersun being reduced to studio-only, and then Jukka Koskinen was tapped as a temporary replacement for Marko Hietala after the latter resigned from the band in 2021--which would be at least the fourth time Nightwish has "permanently borrowed" a member from another band.

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* HeAlsoDid: Music/{{Nightwish}} Music/{{Nightwish|Band}} has started to attract jokes that they're trying to absorb Wintersun entirely: Kai Hahto started as a fill-in drummer for Jukka Nevalainen in 2015 and ended up joining them permanently, resulting in his role in Wintersun being reduced to studio-only, and then Jukka Koskinen was tapped as a temporary replacement for Marko Hietala after the latter resigned from the band in 2021--which would be at least the fourth time Nightwish has "permanently borrowed" a member from another band.
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* FanNickname: [[Music/GunsNRoses "Finnish Democracy"]] for ''Time''.
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* HeAlsoDid: Music/{{Nightwish}} has started to attract jokes that they're trying to absorb Wintersun entirely: Kai Hahto started as a fill-in drummer for Jukka Nevalainen in 2015 and ended up joining them permanently, resulting in his role in Wintersun being reduced to studio-only, and then Jukka Koskinen was tapped as a temporary replacement for Marko Hietala after the latter resigned from the band in 2021.

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* HeAlsoDid: Music/{{Nightwish}} has started to attract jokes that they're trying to absorb Wintersun entirely: Kai Hahto started as a fill-in drummer for Jukka Nevalainen in 2015 and ended up joining them permanently, resulting in his role in Wintersun being reduced to studio-only, and then Jukka Koskinen was tapped as a temporary replacement for Marko Hietala after the latter resigned from the band in 2021.2021--which would be at least the fourth time Nightwish has "permanently borrowed" a member from another band.

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* ThePeteBest: Oliver Fokin played the guitar on tour 2004, but was fairly soon replaced by Teemu Mäntysaari.

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* HeAlsoDid: Music/{{Nightwish}} has started to attract jokes that they're trying to absorb Wintersun entirely: Kai Hahto started as a fill-in drummer for Jukka Nevalainen in 2015 and ended up joining them permanently, resulting in his role in Wintersun being reduced to studio-only, and then Jukka Koskinen was tapped as a temporary replacement for Marko Hietala after the latter resigned from the band in 2021.
* ThePeteBest: Oliver Fokin played the guitar on tour 2004, but was fairly soon replaced by Teemu Mäntysaari.Mäntysaari.
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* [[AllStarCast All Star Cameo]]: ''Sons of Winter and Stars'' features a choir consisting of members of Music/{{Ensiferum}}, Music/{{Turisas}}, Týr and Kiuas.

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* [[AllStarCast All Star Cameo]]: ''Sons "Sons of Winter and Stars'' Stars" features a choir consisting of members of Music/{{Ensiferum}}, Music/{{Turisas}}, Týr and Kiuas.



** SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Time I'' finally saw the light! Now waiting for Time II...

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* [[AllStarCast All Star Cameo]]: ''Sons of Winter and Stars'' features a choir consisting of members of Music/{{Ensiferum}}, Music/{{Turisas}}, Týr and Kiuas.
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* DevelopmentHell: ''Time''.
** SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Time I'' finally saw the light! Now waiting for Time II...
* FanNickname: [[Music/GunsNRoses "Finnish Democracy"]] for ''Time''.
* ThePeteBest: Oliver Fokin played the guitar on tour 2004, but was fairly soon replaced by Teemu Mäntysaari.

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