History Trivia / UltimateMarvel

** ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' was initially drafted by Millar as a story for the Ultimate universe. But the editors liked it so much that it was turned instead into a CrisisCrossover at the mainstream comics.

* TheWikiRule: Has an abbandoned wiki [[https://ultimate-marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page here]].
* WriterRevolt: Mark Millar made a big success with ''Ultimate X-Men''. Marvel proposed him to write a spin-off comic, ''Ultimate ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'', but Millar wanted to make the ''Ultimate ComicBook/TheAvengers'' instead. On the other hand, Creator/KurtBusiek, the writer of the Avengers at the time, did not want that to happen, as he feared that the regular Avengers would be left under the shadow of this new comic book. As the Ultimate universe was turning into a CashCowFranchise, so badly needed by Marvel to get rid of the risk of bankruptcy, they allowed Millar to work with the Avengers. And yet, the new team got a different name, as Busiek requested, and was named "The Ultimates". Still, it was not enough for him, who resigned from writing the Avengers as a result.

* TropeNamers: Trope namer for UltimateUniverse.

* DoingItForTheArt: The main thing of the Ultimate Marvel, from day one to its very end, was to take creative risks and try things that would never be attempted in the prime universe. Some of those attempts were lauded successes, such as ComicBook/TheUltimates (The Avengers as a state-sponsored group), others were largely failures such as ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}} (a total bloodbath, even killing for good all the X-Men's sacred cows), but the risks have always been taken.

* DoingItForTheArt: The main thing of the Ultimate Marvel, from day one to its very end, was to take creative risks and try things that would never be attempted in the prime universe. Some of those attempts were lauded successes, such as ComicBook/TheUltimates (The Avengers as a state-sponsored group), others were largely failures such as ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}} (a KillEmAll event, even killing for good all the X-Men's sacred cows), but the risks have always been taken.

* MagnumOpusDissonance: When he was hired, Bendis (who only had experience in indie comics before this) did not think that the Ultimate line would do very well. Not because of the project, but because of the context of Marvel Comics itself: back in 2000 there was no MCU (and no Spider-Man franchise in Sony, and the first X-Men film was about to be released), superheroes were completely unrelated with the tastes of teenagers and young adults, and Marvel was still nearing bankruptcy and trying to prove that WereStillRelevantDammit. He said that "When I got hired, I ''literally'' thought I was going to be writing one of the last — if not the last — Marvel comics"

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The line as a whole, but ''especially'' any part written by Mark Millar. Constant references to mostly now-forgotten celebrities and events, ComicBookFantasyCasting all over the shop, and most famously, the "You think this letter on my head stands for France?" moment, when America was disdaining France for not joining in the Iraq War (just a few years later, public opinion turned ''strongly'' against the war, and Ultimate Cap even expressed regret for saying it).

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The line as a whole, but ''especially'' any part written by Mark Millar. Constant references to mostly now-forgotten celebrities and events, ComicBookFantasyCasting all over the shop, and most famously, the "You think this letter on my head stands for France?" moment, when America was disdaining France for not joining in the Iraq War (just a few years later, public opinion turned ''strongly'' against the war).

* FollowTheLeader: The success of this prompted Creator/DCComics do their own UltimateUniverse imprint aiming towards new readers, first with the short lived ComicBook/AllStarDCComics and then with the more successful ComicBook/EarthOne.

* FollowTheLeader: The success of this prompted Creator/DCComics do their own UltimateUniverse imprint aiming towards new readers, first with the short lived Creator/AllStarDCComics and then with the more successful Creator/EarthOne.

* ReferencedBy
** ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity'' is a 2014-2015 limited series exploring the post-''Comicbook/{{New 52}}'' Creator/DCComics multiverse. It includes Earth-8, a world with expies of Marvel characters, and Earth-7, a UltimateUniverse version of Earth-8.
** Elsa Bloodstone in Nextwave once pointed to her shirt with the European Union logo and asked "[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2002 Do you think this letter on my chest stands for "America"]]?
** ''ComicBook/TheDefenders2017'' has an AuthorAvatar of Bendis being detained in the police station while shouting "A 17-year running gag is not easy to pull off!". That was a frequent RunningGag of ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''.
** ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': Spiders-Man jumps to another dimension to escape, and says "I'll reconstitute myself on another earth. See if there's an ultimate version of me with a cool leather costume".
** The Living Tribunal seized ComicBook/SheHulk for a cosmic case. He had found another universe, an Ultimate one, which was cleaner, simpler and more elegant, and considered replacing the main one with it. She-Hulk would defend her own one's case, and explained that the main Marvel universe was not convoluted but legendary, that it wasn't confusing, it had character, and the most important point of all: they're fun.
--->'''Intern:''' That's it?! You risked the existence of everything on the basis that we're fun?!
** VideoGame/MarvelAvengersAlliance: ComicBook/MilesMorales comes from another universe. A universe where Dr. Octopus is already dead.
** The comic "Wha...huh?" has some WhatIf scenes. "What if the Ultimate Universe got Ultimized?" and "What if Creator/StanLee was the writer of ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''?"

-->'''Intern:''' That's it?! You risked the existence of everything on the basis that we're fun?!

* AdaptationOverdosed: Has [[AdaptationOverdosed/UltimateMarvel its own page]].

* BigNameFan
** When Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch made the ultimate version of Nick Fury, they based him on the likeness of the actor Creator/SamuelLJackson. When Marvel started the MCU years later, Jackson was an obvious choice. But when they asked him, they did not need to explain what was it all about: Jackson was already a big fan of the Ultimates.
** Creator/DonnyCates, one of the most important writers in Marvel as of 2019, used both Miles Morales and the Maker in his [[ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom run with Venom]], referenced the fight between Miles and Ultimate Venom, and mentioned that he would like to write a reboot of the Ultimate Marvel universe.

* TheWikiRule: Has a wiki [[https://ultimate-marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page here]].