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* NamesTheSame:
** The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan. For this reason, she went by Jacqueline Chan later in her career.
** The titular character shares the same name with Henry Wong's younger sister in ''Anime/DigimonTamers.''
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant. And another source says she had a row with producer Ray Stark. As noted above, the lesser known Nancy Kwan was the favourite for the part, but the studio preferred France Nuyen - so they may have just been looking for any chance to get rid of her.

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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during after discovering that her then-lover Marlon Brando's Brando had an affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant. And another source says she had a row with producer Ray Stark. As noted above, the lesser known Nancy Kwan was the favourite for the part, but the studio preferred France Nuyen - so they may have just been looking for any chance to get rid of her.
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* ThoseTwoActors: Original Robert and Suzie - William Shatner and France Nuyen - later worked together on ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' and an episode of ''Series/KungFu''.

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* ThoseTwoActors: Original Robert and Suzie - William Shatner and France Nuyen - later worked together on ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' and an episode of ''Series/KungFu''.''Series/KungFu1972''.

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* NamesTheSame: The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan. For this reason, she went by Jacqueline Chan later in her career.

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The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan. For this reason, she went by Jacqueline Chan later in her career.career.
** The titular character shares the same name with Henry Wong's younger sister in ''Anime/DigimonTamers.''
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* {{Jossed}}: A girl in Hong Kong called Wong Yuk-lan changed her name to Suzie and claimed to have been the inspiration for the character. Richard Mason however said that Suzie was based off several girls he met in Hong Kong.
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* IronyAsSheIsCast:
** Nancy Kwan plays a poor prostitute who makes up stories about being rich. In reality she had quite a privileged upbringing.
** Suzie Wong was fully Chinese, but her actress Nancy Kwan was actually half-Chinese, half-Caucasian, due to having a Chinese father and a Caucasian mother, and in fact she was given mild {{Yellowface}} to look more Chinese. This is especially HilariousInHindsight (although perhaps hilarious in a "cringe" way) when one considers that the exact opposite happened in a previous film featuring Creator/WilliamHolden in a interracial relationship with a woman of Chinese ancestry set in Hong Kong, ''Film/LoveIsAManySplendoredThing'', where his love interest was described as "Eurasian", seemingly to cover the fact that she was played by the very much Caucasian Creator/JenniferJones in very obvious yellowface.
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* TheOtherMarty: As noted elswhere, Suzie was origially going to be played France Nuyen, who had already played her onstage, before she was dropped for the production due to unspecific reasons (see UrbanLegendOfZelda below) and replaced with Nancy Kwan. Several scenes in Hong Kong had already been shot with Nuyen as Suzie, and had to be redone with Kwan.

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* TheOtherMarty: As noted elswhere, Suzie was origially going to be played France Nuyen, who had already played the role of Suzie Wong on stage, was set to reprise her onstage, role in the film, before she was dropped for the production let go due to unspecific reasons (see UrbanLegendOfZelda below) and replaced with below). Nancy Kwan. Kwan, who was her understudy and was set to originally have a small role in the film, got the part. Several scenes in Hong Kong that had already been shot with Nuyen as Suzie, and Suzie had to be redone with Kwan.
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* DearNegativeReader: Nancy Kwan responded to the criticism of playing to the AsianHookerStereotype with:

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* DearNegativeReader: Nancy Kwan responded is known for being outspoken when it comes to responding to the criticism of playing to the AsianHookerStereotype with:AsianHookerStereotype. One such example:



* FakeNationality: Nancy Kwan and Jacqueline Chan were of Chinese descent (though Nancy was only half), Yvonne Shima (Minnie Ho) was Japanese-Canadian.

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* FakeNationality: While Nancy Kwan and Jacqueline Chan were of Chinese descent (though Nancy was only half), Yvonne Shima (Minnie Ho) was Japanese-Canadian.



* TheOtherMarty: Several scenes in Hong Kong had already been shot with France Nuyen as Suzie, and had to be redone with Nancy Kwan.

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* TheOtherMarty: As noted elswhere, Suzie was origially going to be played France Nuyen, who had already played her onstage, before she was dropped for the production due to unspecific reasons (see UrbanLegendOfZelda below) and replaced with Nancy Kwan. Several scenes in Hong Kong had already been shot with France Nuyen as Suzie, and had to be redone with Nancy Kwan.



** Richard Mason, who had written several screenplays himself, was hoping [[SelfAdaptation to write the film adaptation of his novel]]. But he ultimately wasn't asked.

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** Richard Mason, who had written several screenplays himself, was hoping [[SelfAdaptation to write the film adaptation of his novel]]. But novel]], but he ultimately wasn't asked.
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* ThoseTwoActors: Original Robert and Suzie - William Shatner and France Nuyen - later worked together on ''Series/StarTrek'' and an episode of ''Series/KungFu''.

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* ThoseTwoActors: Original Robert and Suzie - William Shatner and France Nuyen - later worked together on ''Series/StarTrek'' ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' and an episode of ''Series/KungFu''.

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* ActorInspiredElement: Nancy Kwan opted to play Suzie as a more innocent and optimistic girl in spite of her profession - in contrast to the book's more cynical and world-weary heroine.



* CastTheRunnerUp: Nancy Kwan originally had a small role as a bar girl but was bumped up to playing Suzie when France Nuyen was recast.



* IAmNotSpock: Even after doing about fifty other films, Nancy Kwan still got letters about ''Suzie Wong''. People would frequently confuse her with Suzie, and even call her father "Mr. Wong", much to his displeasure.

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* HostilityOnTheSet:
** Whatever the reason for France Nuyen's departure, she didn't get along with producer Ray Stark, who was also responsible for firing the original director Jean Negulesco.
** Replacement director Richard Quine also clashed with replacement actress Nancy Kwan over one scene; where Robert tears Ben's dress off Suzie. Nancy was originally to wear a full slip underneath the dress, which the director found too unrealistically modest. Ray Stark confronted the sobbing actress in her dressing room, warning her that she could be fired if she was considered "difficult" too. Nancy aloofly walked onto the set wearing the bra and half-slip as if nothing had happened.
* IAmNotSpock: Even after doing about fifty other films, Nancy Kwan still got letters about ''Suzie Wong''. People would frequently confuse her with Suzie, and even call her father "Mr. Wong", much to his displeasure. She did star in the remembered ''Literature/FlowerDrumSong'' and ''Film/TheWreckingCrew'' as well, but ''Suzie Wong'' is her most famous lead role.



* NamesTheSame: The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan.

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* NamesTheSame: The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan. For this reason, she went by Jacqueline Chan later in her career.



* StuntCasting: The reason France Nuyen was to play Suzie - as she was famous for the film version of ''Theatre/SouthPacific''.
* ThoseTwoActors: Original Robert and Suzie - William Shatner and France Nuyen - later worked together on ''Series/StarTrek'' and an episode of ''Series/KungFu''.



** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra - to her displeasure. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.

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* IAmNotSpock: Even after doing about fifty other films, Nancy Kwan still got letters about ''Suzie Wong''. People would frequently confuse her with Suzie, and even call her father "Mr Wong".
* IronyAsSheIsCast: Nancy Kwan plays a poor prostitute who makes up stories about being rich. In reality she had quite a privileged upbringing.

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* IAmNotSpock: Even after doing about fifty other films, Nancy Kwan still got letters about ''Suzie Wong''. People would frequently confuse her with Suzie, and even call her father "Mr Wong".
"Mr. Wong", much to his displeasure.
* IronyAsSheIsCast: IronyAsSheIsCast:
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Nancy Kwan plays a poor prostitute who makes up stories about being rich. In reality she had quite a privileged upbringing.upbringing.
** Suzie Wong was fully Chinese, but her actress Nancy Kwan was actually half-Chinese, half-Caucasian, due to having a Chinese father and a Caucasian mother, and in fact she was given mild {{Yellowface}} to look more Chinese. This is especially HilariousInHindsight (although perhaps hilarious in a "cringe" way) when one considers that the exact opposite happened in a previous film featuring Creator/WilliamHolden in a interracial relationship with a woman of Chinese ancestry set in Hong Kong, ''Film/LoveIsAManySplendoredThing'', where his love interest was described as "Eurasian", seemingly to cover the fact that she was played by the very much Caucasian Creator/JenniferJones in very obvious yellowface.
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* OrphanedReference: Suzie's broken English in the film comes from her original actress France Nuyen - who had limited English and learned her lines in the play phonetically. Nancy Kwan however was Eurasian and spoke perfect English.

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* OrphanedReference: Suzie's broken English in the film comes wasn't in the book, but came from her original actress France Nuyen - (the actress who first portrayed her on stage and was set to play her on this film), who had limited English and learned her lines in the play phonetically. Nancy Kwan however Kwan, however, was Eurasian and spoke perfect English.

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* FakeNationality: Nancy Kwan and Jacqueline Chan were of Chinese descent (though Nancy was only half), Yvonne Shima (Minnie Ho) was Japanese-Canadian.



* UnderageCasting: Suzie Wong is meant to be in her twenties, but Nancy Kwan was only eighteen.
* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant. And another source says she had a row with producer Ray Stark.

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* UnderageCasting: Suzie Wong is meant to be in her twenties, but Nancy Kwan was only eighteen.
* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant. And another source says she had a row with producer Ray Stark. As noted above, the lesser known Nancy Kwan was the favourite for the part, but the studio preferred France Nuyen - so they may have just been looking for any chance to get rid of her.

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* DearNegativeReader: Nancy Kwan responded to the criticism of playing to the AsianHookerStereotype with:
--> "You mean to say if I had played a nun and it became a successful movie, then all Asian women would be seen as nuns?"



* TheOtherDarrin: William Shatner played Robert on the stage, and was replaced with William Holden for the film.



** Richard Mason, who had written several screenplays himself, was hoping to write the film adaptation of his novel. But he ultimately wasn't asked.
** French-Vietnamese actress France Nuyen was cast as Suzie originally. She was however in a troubled relationship with Creator/MarlonBrando and got fired for her erratic behaviour. Nancy Kwan, who had originally been cast in a small role as a bar girl, replaced her.

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** Richard Mason, who had written several screenplays himself, was hoping [[SelfAdaptation to write the film adaptation of his novel. novel]]. But he ultimately wasn't asked.
** French-Vietnamese actress France Nuyen was cast as Suzie originally. She was however in a troubled relationship with Creator/MarlonBrando and got fired for her erratic behaviour. Nancy Kwan, who had originally been cast in a small role as a bar girl, replaced her.
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** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.

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** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra.bra - to her displeasure. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.

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* DuelingWorks: The play was dueling with the stage version of ''Literature/FlowerDrumSong'' - another Asian-centered story. Hilariously Nancy Kwan would star in both film adaptations.



* {{Jossed}}: A girl in Hong Kong called Wong Yuk-lan changed her name to Suzie and claimed to have been the inspiration for the character. Richard Mason however said that Suzie was based off several girls he met in Hong Kong.



* OrphanedReference: Suzie's broken English in the film comes from her original actress France Nuyen - who had limited English and learned her lines in the play phonetically. Nancy Kwan however was Eurasian and spoke perfect English.



* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant.

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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant. And another source says she had a row with producer Ray Stark.



** Richard Mason, who had written several screenplays himself, was hoping to write the film adaptation of his novel. But he ultimately wasn't asked.



** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.

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** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.happened.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: Author Richard Mason took a holiday in Hong Kong and stayed at a hotel that turned out to be a brothel, which inspired him to write the story.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: While exteriors were shot on-location in Hong Kong, interiors were done in Britain.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Both the director and William Holden preferred Nancy Kwan for the part of Suzie, but the studio wanted France Nuyen because she was riding high from ''Theatre/SouthPacific''. After she was fired, they let Nancy play the part.


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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Nancy Kwan plays a poor prostitute who makes up stories about being rich. In reality she had quite a privileged upbringing.
* NamesTheSame: The name of the actress who plays Suzie's friend Gwennie Lee? Jacqui Chan.


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* UnderageCasting: Suzie Wong is meant to be in her twenties, but Nancy Kwan was only eighteen.
* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There are differing reasons for why France Nuyen was dropped from the lead role. Some say she was behaving too erratically during Marlon Brando's affair with another woman. Another source said she had gained weight from overreating and couldn't fit into her costumes - and the director didn't want to wait for her to lose it. Others say she became pregnant.
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* IAmNotSpock: Even after doing about fifty other films, Nancy Kwan still got letters about ''Suzie Wong''. People would frequently confuse her with Suzie, and even call her father "Mr Wong".
* TheOtherMarty: Several scenes in Hong Kong had already been shot with France Nuyen as Suzie, and had to be redone with Nancy Kwan.
* StarMakingRole: Nancy Kwan was an unknown before this movie, and then became one of the leading Asian-American actresses in Hollywood.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** French-Vietnamese actress France Nuyen was cast as Suzie originally. She was however in a troubled relationship with Creator/MarlonBrando and got fired for her erratic behaviour. Nancy Kwan, who had originally been cast in a small role as a bar girl, replaced her.
** Jean Negulesco was the original director, but got fired midway through filming and replaced by Richard Quine. Jack Clayton was also approached to direct.
** The scene where Suzie's dress gets torn off was originally filmed with Nancy Kwan wearing a full slip. The director found such a garment too unrealistically modest - so he insisted on Nancy wearing the half-slip and bra. After getting coached by producer Ray Stark, she showed up on set aloofly wearing the half-slip as if nothing had happened.

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