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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; a Japanese developer better known for their support work on games like ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'', and had also done the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.

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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; Creator/{{ILCA}}; a Japanese developer better known for their support work on games like ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'', and had also done the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: It's commonly stated that ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' started life as the sole ''Diamond and Pearl'' project for Gen VIII until Game Freak realized they needed a proper remake to appease fans who may dislike such an experimental title, and so they decided to farm BDSP out to ILCA while continuing to work on ''Legends: Arecus''. Though a reasonable assumption, especially after it was revealed that pre-production of the remakes began over a year after ''Legends: Arecus'' started development -- ''Legends: Arecus'' [[https://gamerant.com/game-freak-confirms-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-development-start/ entered development in late 2018]], while ILCA was approached to develop BDSP in early 2020 -- this reasoning has never been confirmed by official sources at Game Freak or The Pokémon Company.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: It's commonly stated that ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' started life as the sole a proper ''Diamond and Pearl'' project for Gen VIII remake until Game Freak realized they needed a proper remake to appease fans who may dislike such an experimental title, and had strayed away too far from the original games, so they decided to farm BDSP ''Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl'' out to ILCA while continuing to work on ''Legends: Arecus''. Though a reasonable assumption, especially after it was revealed that pre-production of the remakes began over a year after ''Legends: Arecus'' started development -- ''Legends: Arecus'' as an original title. Though PLA did [[https://gamerant.com/game-freak-confirms-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-development-start/ entered enter development in late 2018]], while ILCA was approached to develop BDSP only began development in early 2020 -- 2020, this reasoning has never been confirmed by official sources at Game Freak or The Pokémon Company.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: While it's commonly mentioned online how ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' started life as the ''Diamond and Pearl'' remake until Game Freak realized they had strayed away too far from the original games and decided to farm out the remakes to ILCA while making ''Legends'' its own game, this has never actually been confirmed by official sources.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: While it's It's commonly mentioned online how stated that ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' started life as the sole ''Diamond and Pearl'' remake project for Gen VIII until Game Freak realized they had strayed away too far from the original games needed a proper remake to appease fans who may dislike such an experimental title, and so they decided to farm BDSP out the remakes to ILCA while making ''Legends'' its own game, continuing to work on ''Legends: Arecus''. Though a reasonable assumption, especially after it was revealed that pre-production of the remakes began over a year after ''Legends: Arecus'' started development -- ''Legends: Arecus'' [[https://gamerant.com/game-freak-confirms-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-development-start/ entered development in late 2018]], while ILCA was approached to develop BDSP in early 2020 -- this reasoning has never actually been confirmed by official sources.sources at Game Freak or The Pokémon Company.
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* ReferencedBy: In ''Literature/TheLeapfroggedConsoleWars'', Japanese copies of the Sinnoh games formed part of the TimelineAlteringMacguffin, alongside a Nintendo DS and development kits for it.
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** The Sis and Bro trainer class from the Gen III games were going to appear in Generation IV, but ended up going unused.

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** The Sis and Bro trainer class from the Gen III games were going to appear (gender-swapped) in Generation IV, but ended up going unused.
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Ha. Remember that Net-Nomad guy? He went straight from "We won! The franchise is dead!" to ragequitting with "We didn't REALLY lose because I wasn't even really actually serious".

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* TrendKiller: The success of these games essentially caused the collapse of the [[FanHater Antipokémon community]]. Though most of the sites didn't even last beyond the first generation, the stubborn few that lingered had been prematurely gloating that ''Ruby and Sapphire'' would be the end, only for the PopularityPolynomial that came with ''Diamond and Pearl'' to prove the franchise wasn't going anywhere and throw a giant egg in their faces. Not a single Antipokémon website remains active today.
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* NamesTheSame:
** Pokémon Diamond is not to be confused with a bootleg version of ''VideoGame/{{Telefang}}''.
** ''VideoGame/TheLegendaryStarfy'' introduces another character named Starly, this one being a starfish.
** This isn't the first 2006 Nintendo RPG to feature a player character named [[VideoGame/Mother3 Lucas]].
** An ''incredibly'' minor example: an NPC in the Lost Tower is a Roughneck named Kirby and uses Cleffa, a pink spherical Pokémon that is associated with stars. [[Franchise/{{Kirby}} Why does that sound so familiar]]?[[note]]This isn't the case in the Japanese version, though.[[/note]]

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** In a rematch, Fantina's Banette knows Snatch. Snatch was removed from the series in ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'' and thus doesn't have any proper code associated with it, so it cannot be used at all. This was fixed in the 1.1.3 update, where Snatch is replaced with Payback.

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** In a rematch, Fantina's Banette knows Snatch. Snatch was removed from the series in ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'' and thus doesn't have any proper code associated with it, so it cannot be used at all. This was is fixed in the 1.1.3 update, where Snatch is replaced with Payback.Payback.
** Likewise, Ace Trainer Meagan on Route 228 has a Delcatty that knows Feint Attack, which is also unusable. Version 1.1.3 replaces it with Covet.
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Despite [[https://twitter.com/sibuna_switch/status/1463302852739317762 many people]] proving the rumor to be false, a good amount of fans still believe that the Pokédex will tell you if a roaming Pokémon is shiny before you encounter it. This can lead to players resetting a file with a shiny Mesprit or Cresselia simply because its' sprite didn't show up as shiny in the Dex entry prior to encountering it.

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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Despite [[https://twitter.com/sibuna_switch/status/1463302852739317762 many people]] proving the rumor to be false, a good amount of fans still believe that the Pokédex will tell you if a roaming Pokémon is shiny before you encounter it. This can lead to players resetting a file with a shiny Mesprit or Cresselia simply because its' its sprite didn't show up as shiny in the Dex entry prior to encountering it.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: While it's commonly mentioned online how ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' started life as the ''Diamond and Pearl'' remake until Game Freak realized they had strayed away too far from the original games and decided to farm out the remakes to ILCA while making ''Legends'' its own game, this has never actually been confirmed by official sources.
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** The Generation IV games have a ???-type Arceus in their coding, with a slate blue coloration, to match the ???-type existing for the move Curse. There's no way to access the forme without hacking in a corresponding Plate, but it was likely included to prevent the games from crashing in that scenario. The form is longer present from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]]'' onward due to the ???-type's removal.

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** The Generation IV games have a ???-type Arceus in their coding, with a slate blue coloration, to match the ???-type existing for the move Curse. There's no way to access the forme without hacking in a corresponding Plate, but it was likely included to prevent the games from crashing in that scenario. The form is no longer present from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]]'' onward due to the ???-type's removal.
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** There's an unused Key Item called the "Azure Flute" that, when played at the Spear Pillar, reveals a staircase leading to the Hall of Origin, where the player would encounter Arceus. The Azure Flute would have been distributed as a Mystery Gift, but the idea was deemed too convoluted, and Arceus was straight up given out through events instead. Interestingly, Arceus would have been encountered at level 80, whereas Arceus are always given out at level 100 to make them impossible to EV train.

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** There's an unused Key Item called the "Azure Flute" that, when played at the Spear Pillar, reveals a staircase leading to the Hall of Origin, where the player would encounter Arceus. The Azure Flute would have been distributed as a Mystery Gift, but the idea was deemed too convoluted, and Arceus was straight up given out through events instead. Interestingly, Arceus would have been encountered at level 80, whereas Arceus are always given out at level 100 to make them impossible to EV train. The original version of the event was later made properly accessible in ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' as an OldSaveBonus for players who have a completed ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' file.
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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; a Japanese developer better known for their support work on games like ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'', and has also done the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.

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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; a Japanese developer better known for their support work on games like ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'', and has had also done the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.
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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; a Japanese developer better known for their support work [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance on]] [[VideoGame/Yakuza0 other]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI games]], and who had recently worked on the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.

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* BTeamSequel: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' are the first mainline ''Pokémon'' games to not be developed by Game Freak. As Game Freak was busy producing both ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' for release the following year, the remakes were developed externally by ILCA; a Japanese developer better known for their support work [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance on]] [[VideoGame/Yakuza0 other]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI games]], on games like ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', and who had recently worked on ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'', and has also done the ''Pokémon HOME'' cloud storage app.

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