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* ActorAllusion: Part of the short has Olaf going door-to-door asking people about their traditions. A character played by Josh Gad who goes door-to-door? [[Theatre/TheBookOfMormon Why does that sound familiar?]]
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* NotScreenedForCritics: It was not included in critical screenings of ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'', meaning critics didn't tell audiences about it beforehand.
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That trope is for demos and trailers.


* PreviewPiggybacking: This trope was zig-zagged depending on what the movie was shown before in the country it was released in: when it was played in most countries with ''Coco'', people did not enjoy the short because they were anticipating the actual movie. In the United Kingdom, however, it was shown with the annual re-release of ''Frozen'', causing most people to only stay for the short as the movie is something that they could've watched at home.
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Changed because from what I've seen it was an even split between "Arendelle is in Norway" and "Arendelle is Norway"


** The fandom generally already assumed Arendelle was a part of Norway, this along with the criticism mentioned in the YMMV page gave Disney reason to just make it official.

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** The Much of the fandom generally already assumed Arendelle was a part of Norway, this Norway. This along with the criticism mentioned in the YMMV page gave Disney reason to just make it official.

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** The original film left it ambiguous whether the family in Oaken’s sauna was his own or just customers. This film confirms it is his family, though it remains mum on the other half of the theory

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** The original film left it ambiguous whether the family in Oaken’s sauna was his own or just customers. This film confirms it is his family, though it remains mum on the other half of the theorytheory [[AmbiguouslyGay that the eldest man is Oaken’s husband.]]



[[AmbiguouslyGay that the eldest man is Oaken’s husband.]]

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Sure Why Not is just an alternate title for Ascended Fanon, so moved entry to the official title


* AscendedFanon: The original film left it ambiguous whether the family in Oaken’s sauna was his own or just customers. This film confirms it is his family, though it remains mum on the other half of the theory [[AmbiguouslyGay that the eldest man is Oaken’s husband.]]

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* AscendedFanon: AscendedFanon:
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The original film left it ambiguous whether the family in Oaken’s sauna was his own or just customers. This film confirms it is his family, though it remains mum on the other half of the theory theory
** The fandom generally already assumed Arendelle was a part of Norway, this along with the criticism mentioned in the YMMV page gave Disney reason to just make it official.
[[AmbiguouslyGay that the eldest man is Oaken’s husband.]]



* SureWhyNot: The fandom generally already assumed Arendelle was a part of Norway, this along with the criticism mentioned in the YMMV page gave Disney reason to just make it official.

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* EarlyDraftTieIn: The novelization has the Norwegian cake being in the shape of Arendelle instead, implying that the change was relatively late in development.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Before settling on a Christmas special, other ideas for a short starring Olaf were tossed around.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Before settling on a Christmas special, other ideas for a short starring Olaf were tossed around.around:
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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. Also, while the merchandise for this special sold well at Disney Stores, the non-Disney Store merchandise isn't doing as great as the ''Trolls Holiday'' merchandise or the merchandise of fellow Disney franchise ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. This caused ''Trolls'' to reign victorious.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. Also, while the short's merchandise for this special sold well failed to move off store shelves (both at the Disney Stores, the non-Disney Store merchandise isn't doing and in normal retailers) and didn't sell as great much as the ''Trolls Holiday'' merchandise or the merchandise of fellow Disney franchise ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. This caused ''Trolls'' to reign victorious.
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* SureWhyNot: The fandom generally already assumed Arendelle was a part of Norway, this along with the criticism mentioned in the YMMV page gave Disney reason to just make it official.
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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Both Idina Menzel and Josh Gad, who voices Elsa and Olaf, respectively, are Jewish.

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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Both Idina Menzel and Josh Gad, who voices voice Elsa and Olaf, Olaf respectively, are Jewish.
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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Josh Gad, who voices Olaf, is Jewish.

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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Both Idina Menzel and Josh Gad, who voices Elsa and Olaf, is respectively, are Jewish.
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* PreviewPiggybacking: This trope was zig-zagged depending on what the movie was shown before in the country it was released in: when it was played in most countries with ''Coco'', people did not enjoy the short because they were anticipating the actual movie. In the United Kingdom, however, it was shown with the annual re-release of ''Frozen'', causing most people to only stay for the short as the movie is something that they could've watched at home.
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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. Also, while the merchandise for this special sold well at Disney Stores, the non-Disney Store merchandise isn't doing as great as the ''Trolls Holiday'' merchandise. This caused ''Trolls'' to reign victorious.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. Also, while the merchandise for this special sold well at Disney Stores, the non-Disney Store merchandise isn't doing as great as the ''Trolls Holiday'' merchandise.merchandise or the merchandise of fellow Disney franchise ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. This caused ''Trolls'' to reign victorious.
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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short, causing ''Trolls'' to reign victorious. However, the merchandise for the special sold well.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short, causing short. Also, while the merchandise for this special sold well at Disney Stores, the non-Disney Store merchandise isn't doing as great as the ''Trolls Holiday'' merchandise. This caused ''Trolls'' to reign victorious. However, the merchandise for the special sold well.
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* ShortRunInPeru: Released with ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' in Mexico nearly a month ahead of its US release. It also released digitally and aired on TV in Latin America before its airing on Creator/{{ABC}}.
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No reason to italicize this.


* PlayingAgainstType: ''Creator/JohnDeLancie'' plays a character in the short, one who only says a few lines before leaving with his wife. This character isn't a snarky AntiHero like [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Q]] or [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]], but a normal human.

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* PlayingAgainstType: ''Creator/JohnDeLancie'' Creator/JohnDeLancie plays a character in the short, one who only says a few lines before leaving with his wife. This character isn't a snarky AntiHero like [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Q]] or [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]], but a normal human.
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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Josh Gad, who voices Olaf, is Jewish.
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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', ''WesternAnimation/TrollsHoliday'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short.short, causing ''Trolls'' to reign victorious. However, the merchandise for the special sold well.
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* PlayingAgainstType: ''Creator/JohnDeLancie'' plays a character in the short, one who only says a few lines before leaving with his wife. This character isn't a snarky AntiHero like [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Q]] or [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]], but a normal human.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Before settling on a Christmas special, other ideas for a short starring Olaf were tossed around.
** Olaf gets an evil twin named Loaf who has the personality of Larry David, making him Olaf's EvilCounterpart, being bitter and cynical.
** Olaf stars in a variety show.
** Olaf gets stuck in a crevasse for hours.
** Olaf befriends a large marshmallow.
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Minor edits.


* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both Frozen ''Frozen'' fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short.
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Can there be a real winner in terms of Dueling Works? Plus, I'm pretty sure that even with the criticism, many people enjoyed, and I'm fairly certain more people saw it then the Trolls one.


* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. This made ''Trolls Holiday'' the winner.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with,]] many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. This made ''Trolls Holiday'' the winner.
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* AscendedFanon: The original film left it ambiguous whether the family in Oaken’s sauna was his own or just customers. This film confirms it is his family, though it remains mum on the other half of the theory [[AmbiguouslyGay that the eldest man is Oaken’s husband.]]
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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with the movie it was paired with, many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see the film or arriving late in order to avoid the short. This made ''Trolls Holiday'' the winner.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} the movie it was paired with, with,]] many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see the film ''Coco'' or arriving to showings of the film late in order to avoid the short. This made ''Trolls Holiday'' the winner.
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* DuelingWorks : With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters.

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* DuelingWorks : DuelingWorks: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters.theaters. Despite doing well at the box office with the movie it was paired with, many people, both Frozen fans and normal viewers, despised the short because it focused on Olaf instead of Anna and Elsa and was way too long for a theatrical short, with some people either refusing to see the film or arriving late in order to avoid the short. This made ''Trolls Holiday'' the winner.
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* [[DuelingWorks Dueling Specials]]: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters.

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* [[DuelingWorks Dueling Specials]]: DuelingWorks : With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters.
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* [[DuelingWorks Dueling Specials]]: With ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}} Trolls Holiday]]'', which aired on TV the same week this special was released into theaters.
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* ActorAllusion: Part of the short has Olaf going door-to-door asking people about their traditions. A character played by Josh Gad who goes door-to-door? [[Theater/TheBookOfMormon Why does that sound familiar?]]

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* ActorAllusion: Part of the short has Olaf going door-to-door asking people about their traditions. A character played by Josh Gad who goes door-to-door? [[Theater/TheBookOfMormon [[Theatre/TheBookOfMormon Why does that sound familiar?]]
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* ActorAllusion: Part of the short has Olaf going door-to-door asking people about their traditions. A character played by Josh Gad who goes door-to-door? [[Theater/TheBookOfMormon Why does that sound familiar?]]
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* ThrowItIn: Josh Gad ad-libbed a lot of lines for Olaf.
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