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** Trent went on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music. For one, he claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It". "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates, as it was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics), and hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows. That said, Trent warmed back up to the album by the time he finally got to do a remaster, calling it an "old friend."

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** Trent went on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music. For one, he claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff rip-off of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It". "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates, as it was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics), and hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows. That said, Trent warmed back up to the album by the time he finally got to do a remaster, calling it an "old friend."
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-->"When we got immersed in it, it felt like some people were phoning it in. And you're stuck with a film editor who had real bad taste. That's kind of our barricade to getting stuff in the film. And the final icing on the shit cake was we were on tour when they mixed it. And they mixed the music so low, you couldn't hear it anyway. So it was like, that was a ... (''laughs'') That was a fucking waste of time. Then we thought, no one's going to see this fucking movie. And, of course, it's the hugest movie ever in Netflix."

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-->"When --->"When we got immersed in it, it felt like some people were phoning it in. And you're stuck with a film editor who had real bad taste. That's kind of our barricade to getting stuff in the film. And the final icing on the shit cake was we were on tour when they mixed it. And they mixed the music so low, you couldn't hear it anyway. So it was like, that was a ... (''laughs'') That was a fucking waste of time. Then we thought, no one's going to see this fucking movie. And, of course, it's the hugest movie ever in Netflix."
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** Trent [[https://www.revolvermag.com/music/nine-inch-nails-9-things-we-learned-our-visit-trent-reznors-studio went on record]] with ''Revolver'' a year after the release of ''Film/BirdBox'', which he and Atticus Ross scored, stating that the initial process of making the score was overwhelmingly negative for them. He cited difficulties with the film's producers and specifically singled out its editor for mixing the music too low. It would take [[https://store.nin.com/collections/music/products/birdbox-box-set a thorough extension of the soundtrack]], released almost a year after the original with an extra 13 tracks included, before their work on the film was comfortably integrated into their discography.
-->"When we got immersed in it, it felt like some people were phoning it in. And you're stuck with a film editor who had real bad taste. That's kind of our barricade to getting stuff in the film. And the final icing on the shit cake was we were on tour when they mixed it. And they mixed the music so low, you couldn't hear it anyway. So it was like, that was a ... (''laughs'') That was a fucking waste of time. Then we thought, no one's going to see this fucking movie. And, of course, it's the hugest movie ever in Netflix."
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* WriterRevolt: The entire ''Broken'' EP is a concentrated blast of this. During his time with his original label TVT Records, Trent Reznor often had to fight ExecutiveMeddling; TVT was initially not pleased to hear ''Pretty Hate Machine'' (one executive calling it "an abortion"), only to demand that Trent record a followup in the same style after ''Machine'' became a success. In addition, they refused to release Trent from his contract when he tried to leave the label. This resulted in ''Broken'' being secretly recorded, and it has Trent comparing his experience with them to slavery and telling TVT founder Steve Gottlieb to eat his heart out at the beginning of "Physical". Even the liner notes contain sentences like "no thanks: you know who you fucking are" and "the slave thinks he has been released from bondage only to find a stronger set of chains". Years later, ''Machine's'' 2010 remastered release say "fuck you" to TVT - which has been defunct since 2008.
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** Everyone familiar with NIN and Reznor know that his biggest and most influential inspiration is Music/DavidBowie. Reznor toured with Bowie in 1995 (even performing "Hurt" together during concerts), remixed Bowie's song "I'm Afraid of Americans" which then went on to be released as a single, and starred in that song's music video as a stalker chasing down Bowie.
* ReferencedBy: The recurring boss Reznor in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' is named in his honour. (Creator/{{Nintendo}} has a long habit of naming recurring bosses in the ''Mario'' franchise for famous musicians.)

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** Everyone familiar with NIN and Reznor know that his biggest and most influential inspiration is Music/DavidBowie. Reznor toured with Bowie in 1995 (even performing "Hurt" together during concerts), remixed two of Bowie's song songs for single releases ([[Music/{{Outside}} "The Hearts Filthy Lesson"]] and [[Music/{{Earthling}} "I'm Afraid of Americans" which then went on to be released as a single, Americans"]]), and starred in that song's the latter single's music video as a stalker chasing down Bowie.
* ReferencedBy: The recurring boss Reznor in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' is named in his honour. (Creator/{{Nintendo}} Creator/{{Nintendo}} has a long habit of naming recurring bosses in the ''Mario'' franchise for famous musicians.)

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*** Reznor would get the last laugh in the end, though, as TVT lost the rights to NIN's work after defaulting on a loan, and TVT went bankrupt in 2008, two years before current owners Bicycle Music authorized a proper remastering of ''Pretty Hate Machine''. Reznor amusingly used the opportunity to give one final TakeThat to Gottlieb and TVT via the reissue's liner notes.



** Oddly enough, ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was out of print for a while between the late '90s and 2005, owing to Trent's dispute with TVT.

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** Oddly enough, ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was out of print for a while between the late '90s and 2005, owing to Trent's dispute with TVT. Prudential Financial had actually seized control of the masters along with some other TVT material when the label defaulted on a loan from Prudential, and Rykodisc got the rights to reissue the album on their behalf...for about one year with no remastering. It finally got a proper remaster in 2010 when Prudential sold its TVT holdings to Bicycle Music, with Reznor fully overseeing the effort.
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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: Various nasty and overly-personal comments are the reason Trent isn't as active on Website/{{Twitter}} these days. Mostly, he posts news updates now. He even [[LampshadedHanging lampshaded this]] in a now deleted Tweet.

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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: Various nasty and overly-personal comments are the reason Trent isn't as active on Website/{{Twitter}} these days. Mostly, he posts news updates now. He even [[LampshadedHanging [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded this]] in a now deleted Tweet.
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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: Various nasty and overly-personal comments are the reason Trent isn't as active on Website/{{Twitter}} these days. Mostly, he posts news updates now.

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* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: Various nasty and overly-personal comments are the reason Trent isn't as active on Website/{{Twitter}} these days. Mostly, he posts news updates now.
now. He even [[LampshadedHanging lampshaded this]] in a now deleted Tweet.
-->Lots of assholes here!
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** After Creator/JohnnyCash covered "Hurt" in 2002, Trent Reznor had nothing but gushing to offer, claiming that the song "[wasn't his] anymore."

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* ApprovalOfGod: Shortly after Music/LilNasX's "Old Town Road", which samples "34 Ghosts IV", began gaining traction online, his manager reached out to Trent in hopes of clearing the sample. Trent approved, calling the song "undeniably hooky" and wanting Lil Nas X and co. to own the spotlight so much that he refrained from publicly discussing it at length and even turned down an offer to cameo in the music video.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Shortly after Music/LilNasX's "Old Town Road", which samples "34 Ghosts IV", began gaining traction online, his manager reached out to Trent in hopes of clearing the sample. Trent approved, calling the song "undeniably hooky" and wanting Lil Nas X and co. to own the spotlight so much that he refrained from publicly discussing it at length and even turned down a cameo offer for the music video.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Shortly after Music/LilNasX's "Old Town Road", which samples "34 Ghosts IV", began gaining traction online, his manager reached out to Trent in hopes of clearing the sample. Trent approved, calling the song "undeniably hooky" and wanting Lil Nas X and co. to own the spotlight so much that he refrained from publicly discussing it at length and even turned down a an offer to cameo offer for in the music video.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Shortly after Music/LilNasX's "Old Town Road", which samples "34 Ghosts IV", began gaining traction online, his manager reached out to Trent in hopes of clearing the sample. Trent approved, calling the song "undeniably hooky" and wanting Lil Nas X and co. to own the spotlight so much that he refrained from publicly discussing it at length and even turned down a cameo offer for the music video.



** Trent has gone on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music. For one, he claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It". "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates, as it was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics), and hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows. That said, Trent warmed back up to ''Pretty Hate Machine'' by the time he finally got to do a remaster, calling it an "old friend."

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** Trent has gone went on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music. For one, he claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It". "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates, as it was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics), and hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows. That said, Trent warmed back up to ''Pretty Hate Machine'' the album by the time he finally got to do a remaster, calling it an "old friend."
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** There were two songs that never ended up/even recorded for ''The Downward Spiral'', both called "The Beauty of the Drug" and "Just Do It". The latter gets special mention due to the straight forward mention of suicide with the lyric "[[DrivenToSuicide Just do it. Nobody cares at all.]]" Producer Flood ''did not like this'' and insisted to Trent to not use either song and have been scrapped since, but nobody knows if Trent ever really recorded them.

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** There were two songs that never ended up/even recorded for ''The Downward Spiral'', both called "The Beauty of the Drug" and "Just Do It". The latter gets special mention due to the straight forward straightforward mention of suicide with the lyric "[[DrivenToSuicide Just do it. Nobody cares at all.]]" Producer Flood ''did not like this'' and insisted to Trent to not use either song and have been scrapped since, but nobody knows if Trent ever really recorded them.
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* BigNameFan: While Reznor is a fan of Music/GaryNuman, inviting him to perform onstage for several songs in London at one NIN gig, the affection is mutual. Numan credits discovering Reznor's music for pulling him out of a creative slump in the '90s.
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** ''The Broken Movie'' was found to be too extremely violent to be released (being filmed as a ''[[NightmareFuel very convincing]]'' SnuffFilm probably had something to do with it), but finally saw a public leak on the Pirate Bay that was probably from Trent himself. Additionally, there was a failed attempt to release the film on the band's official Vimeo account.

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** ''The Broken Movie'' was found to be too extremely violent to be released (being filmed as a ''[[NightmareFuel very convincing]]'' SnuffFilm probably had something to do with it), but finally saw a public leak on the Pirate Bay that was probably from Trent himself. Additionally, there was a failed attempt to release the film on the band's official Vimeo account. As of now, it can be found in full and in high quality on archive.org; bits and pieces have also survived for a surprisingly long time on [=YouTube=].



* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition: ''Ghosts I-IV'' got this treatment by its release in five different packages: A digital download of the full album in FLAC with digital extras; a 2CD format; a 4 LP format; a Deluxe Edition featuring the [=CDs=], a 24/48 blu-ray and a DVD-ROM with multitrack stems for the full album; and an Ultra-Deluxe Limited Edition, which paired the Deluxe Edition with the vinyl copy, a coffee table book of the artwork and two exclusive Giclée prints. A free torrent of the first 9 songs (Ghosts I) also existed.
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* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition: ''Ghosts I-IV'' got this treatment by its release in five different packages: A a digital download of the full album in FLAC with digital extras; a 2CD format; a 4 LP format; a Deluxe Edition featuring the [=CDs=], a 24/48 blu-ray and a DVD-ROM with multitrack stems for the full album; and an Ultra-Deluxe Limited Edition, which paired the Deluxe Edition with the vinyl copy, a coffee table book of the artwork and two exclusive Giclée prints. A free torrent of the first 9 songs (Ghosts I) (''Ghosts I'') also existed.
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** Trent has gone on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music.
** Trent has claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It".
** "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates. It was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics). It hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows.

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** Even though "The Perfect Drug" is a quite popular song, Trent himself isn't too happy with it. It took 21 years for him to perform it live.

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* DevelopmentHell: Interscope apparently has been in plans to make a NIN compilation album. So far, as of 2018? Nothing!

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** Evidently the "Ocean pulls me close" part of "The Great Below" was originally intended to be sung by a female vocalist.

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** Evidently Evidently, the "Ocean pulls me close" part of "The Great Below" was originally intended to be sung by a female vocalist.



** ''Bad Witch'' was intended to be the third EP in the unnamed EP trilogy that preceded ''Not the Actual Events'' and ''Add Violence'', however Trent wanted the release to garner more attention and instead had it be a studio release. Fans were not amused.

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** ''Bad Witch'' was intended to be the third EP in the unnamed EP trilogy that preceded ''Not the Actual Events'' and ''Add Violence'', however Violence''; however, Trent wanted the release to garner more attention and instead had it be a studio release. Fans were not amused.release.

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** Trent has gone on record disowning most of ''Pretty Hate Machine'' a mere two years after its release, citing the extremely withdrawn and antisocial headspace he was in during its production making for "immature", "introverted, claustrophobic" music.
** Trent has claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It".
** "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates. It was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics). It hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows.



** Trent isn't fond of "Big Man With a Gun" (which is probably why he doesn't often play it live), nor is he fond of "Ruiner"; in a ''Guitar World'' interview released the month after ''The Downward Spiral'' was released, Trent admitted that "Ruiner" was the hardest song to write, and he still wasn't sure that he did it right.



** Trent isn't fond of "Big Man With a Gun" (which is probably why he doesn't often play it live), nor is he fond of "Ruiner"; in a ''Guitar World'' interview released the month after ''The Downward Spiral'' was released, Trent admitted that "Ruiner" was the hardest song to write, and he still wasn't sure that he did it right.



** "Kinda I Want To" is another song Trent hates. It was difficult to write and went through multiple revisions (the ''Purest Feeling'' and ''Pretty Hate Machine'' versions have barely anything in common other than the lyrics). It hasn't been played live since the earliest NIN shows.
** Trent has claimed retrospectively that "Down in It" was nothing more than a ripoff of Music/SkinnyPuppy's "Dig It".

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* ChartDisplacement: The band only scored two top 40 hits, "The Day the World Went Away" (boosted by huge first-week sales of its CD single) and "The Hand That Feeds" (which is also the first of five straight Alternative chart-toppers). "Closer" barely missed it at #41!



** Even though "The Perfect Drug" is a quite popular song, Trent himself isn't too happy with it. It took Twenty One years for him to perform it live.

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** Even though "The Perfect Drug" is a quite popular song, Trent himself isn't too happy with it. It took Twenty One 21 years for him to perform it live.
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* BigNameFan: While Reznor is a fan of Music/GaryNuman, inviting him to perform onstage for several songs in London at one NIN gig, the affection is mutual. Numan credits discovering Reznor's music for pulling him out of a creative slump in the '90s.

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* AscendedFanboy: Everyone familiar with NIN and Reznor know that his biggest and most influential inspiration is Music/DavidBowie. Reznor toured with Bowie in 1995 (even performing "Hurt" together during concerts), remixed Bowie's song "I'm Afraid of Americans" which then went on to be released as a single, and starred in that song's music video as a stalker chasing down Bowie.



* PromotedFanboy: Trent is a ''huge'' [[Music/PinkFloyd Roger Waters]] fan, which only made it all the more amusingly tragic during a 2003 ''Guitar World'' interview that paired them up; Trent fell all over himself declaring how much he loved and respected Waters' solo work, only for Waters to apologetically state that he'd never heard any of [=NIN=]'s music. [[TheWoobie Trent actually took it surprisingly well.]] It became a RunningGag on [[http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/meatpers.html The Meathead Perspective]].

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** Everyone familiar with NIN and Reznor know that his biggest and most influential inspiration is Music/DavidBowie. Reznor toured with Bowie in 1995 (even performing "Hurt" together during concerts), remixed Bowie's song "I'm Afraid of Americans" which then went on to be released as a single, and starred in that song's music video as a stalker chasing down Bowie.
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** ''Bad Witch'' was intended to be the third EP in the unnamed EP trilogy that preceded ''Not the Actual Events'' and ''Add Violence'', however Trent wanted the release to garner more attention and instead had it be a studio release. [[InternetBackdraft Fans were not amused]].

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** Trent's one album that he recorded with his old band Option 30 has long since gone out of print. Considering that the album was released without the band's permission and Trent is embarrassed by it, it's probably never going to get a second run.



** He also disowned the one album he recorded with Option 30, particularly a notoriously cheesy cover of [[Music/{{Falco}} "Der Kommissar."]]

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*** Arguably this was a response to a mild (particularly by Nine Inch Nails' case; see above) case of ExecutiveMeddling, as streaming sites like Spotify tend to ignore EP releases. Of course, some people will find that a more reasonable justification than others will.

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* NamesTheSame: "Into the Void" from ''The Fragile'' is not a Music/BlackSabbath cover.



* ReferencedBy: The recurring boss Reznor in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' is named in his honour. (Creator/{{Nintendo}} has a long habit of naming recurring bosses in the ''Mario'' franchise for famous musicians.)
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** "Into the Void" from ''The Fragile'' is not a Music/BlackSabbath cover, though it very well may have been named in honour of the Sabbath song.
** Similarly, ''The Fragile'' should not be confused with ''Fragile'' by Music/{{Yes}}. It's possible, though not confirmed, that Reznor intended his album title as a ShoutOut.



** The drum solo in "Piggy" was just Trent testing a new microphone in his studio, but Trent liked it too much to lose it.

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** The drum solo in "Piggy" was just Trent testing a new microphone in his studio, but Trent he liked it too much to lose it.



** There were two songs that never ended up/even recorded for ''The Downward Spiral'', both called "The Beauty of the Drug" and "Just Do It". The latter gets special mention due to the straight forward mention of suicide with the lyric "[[DrivenToSuicide Just do it. Nobody cares at all.]]", Producer Flood ''did not like this'' and insisted to Trent to not use either song and have been scrapped since, but nobody knows if Trent ever really recorded them.

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