History Trivia / MarilynManson

** Marilyn Manson is not a {{goth}} band, and they have never claimed to be so. It seems as though only reason [[FanFic/MyImmortal people]] think they are a goth band is because the media kept saying they were. The makeup, nail polish, black clothing, and stereotypical "darkness" of the band didn't help much. The music video for "Tainted Love" also does not help, what with it being filled with goth kids and all (one even wearing a shirt stating "Nothing but a G(oth) Thing.")

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* TheWikiRule: [[http://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page The Marilyn Manson Wiki]].

* FountainOfExpies: Copied by many, many shock rockers, from Chris Motionless of MotionlessInWhite to Hyde of [[Music/LarcEnCiel L'arc~en~ciel]] and Vamps.

** Also they're not [[HollywoodSatanism Satanists]], although Manson himself is a Reverend in the church of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism [=LaVeyan=] Satanism]] (which is quite distinct from the aforementioned stereotypical version) and they do not condone it, especially during the Antichrist Superstar-era. The Antichrist part especially does not refer to Manson in a literal sense since it is a ConceptAlbum...that and it would make no sense anyway for various reasons.

* ReferencedBy: In ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStoneOcean'', a [[FightingSpirit Stand]] given to a con artist named Miraschon is called Marilyn Manson, and has the ability to collect fees from bets of equal exchange, regardless of whether or not it's money, valuables, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick or]] {{organ|theft}}s.

* ReferencedBy: In ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStoneOcean'', a [[FightingSpirit Stand]] given to a con artist named Miraschon is called Marilyn Manson, and has the ability to collect fees from bets of equal exchange, regardless of whether or not it's money, valuable, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick or]] {{organ|theft}}s.

** Daisy Berkowitz was the first guitarist and co-founder of the band, but clashed with Manson and Twiggy during the ''Smells Like Children'' tour and ended up leaving halfway through the recording of the second album, ''Antichrist Superstar''. He wound up joining Jack Off Jill and had various other projects, as well as a solo project where he played Spooky Kids songs. [[AuthorExistenceFailure He later succumbed to cancer in late 2017]].

** Gidget Gein was the second bassist and co-wrote a number of the songs, but his addiction to heroin got him kicked out of the band. He played on the first album, ''Portrait of an American Family'', but never toured. He later became an artist, but [[AuthorExistenceFailure died of an overdose]] in 2008.

** Manson himself was named by Creator/EvanRachelWood in 2021 as the previously-unnamed person she accused of sexual abuse in 2017, followed by four other women coming forward with very similar stories. Most damningly, Manson's former synth tech-turned-personal assistant Dan Cleary's old tweet that backed Wood's accusations and all other abuse accusations against Manson resurfaced (where Cleary said in no uncertain terms that while he wanted no part of cancel culture, he wanted the world to know that those women spoke the truth). [[Music/LimpBizkit Wes Borland]] would go on to echo Cleary's statements, backing both Wood's accusations and those of the other women based on what he personally witnessed in the nine months that he was in the band and referring to him as a "bad fucking guy". This resulted in Loma Vista Recordings throwing Manson off their label and ceasing all further promotion of ''We Are Chaos'', his most recent full-length album, while his talent agency also removed him from its roster, and his scheduled appearances in ''Series/AmericanGods'' and ''Series/{{Creepshow}}'' were cancelled, with the filmed footage from the former apparently being cut from the final product.

** Also they're not [[HollywoodSatanism Satanists]], although Manson himself is a Reverend in the church of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism [=LaVeyan=] Satanism]] (which is quite distinct from the aforementioned steteotypical version) and they do not condone it especially during the Antichrist Superstar-era. The Antichirst part especially does not refer to Manson in a literal sense since it is a ConceptAlbum...that and it would make no sense anyway for various reasons.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Manson originally wanted to use a nude photo of himself as a child for the cover of ''Portrait of an American Family''. The label was {{Squick}}ed out and shot down the idea, not being very eager about accusations of child pornography.

** Manson himself was finally outed as Creator/EvanRachelWood's unnamed abuser in 2021, followed by four other women coming forward with very similar stories. Most damningly, Manson's former synth tech-turned-personal assistant Dan Cleary's old tweet that backed Wood's accusations and all other abuse accusations against Manson resurfaced (where Cleary said in no uncertain terms that while he wanted no part of cancel culture, he wanted the world to know that those women spoke the truth). [[Music/LimpBizkit Wes Borland]] would go on to echo Cleary's statements, backing both Wood's accusations and those of the other women based on what he personally witnessed in the nine months that he was in the band and referring to him as a "bad fucking guy". This resulted in Loma Vista Recordings throwing Manson off their label and ceasing all further promotion of ''We Are Chaos'', his most recent full-length album, while his talent agency also removed him from its roster, and his scheduled appearances in ''Series/AmericanGods'' and ''Series/{{Creepshow}}'' were cancelled, with the filmed footage from the former apparently being cut from the final product.

* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Belated, but still. In October 2017, Jessicka Addams of Music/JackOffJill made allegations of previous abuse and rape (claiming it occurred in the 90s, when they were dating) against Twiggy, which shook up the fandoms of ''both'' bands. A couple days later, Manson himself announced that Twiggy was no longer in the band.

* BigNameFan: The man himself is a longtime fan of Music/{{Atheist}} and apparently told Kelly Shaefer online that Neurotica was terrible and that he needed to disband them and bring Atheist back; he even apparently signed it as "Brian Warner" to make sure that Shaefer (who had known him from way back when Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids was strictly local) would know it was him.

* TheWikiRule: [[http://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page The Marilyn Manson Wiki]].

** Also they're not [[HollywoodSatanism Satanists]], although Manson himself is a Reverend in the church of [=LaVeyan=] Satanism (which is quite distinct from the aforementioned steteotypical version) and they do not condone it especially during the Antichrist Superstar-era. The Antichirst part especially does not refer to Manson in a literal sense since it is a ConceptAlbum...that and it would make no sense anyway for various reasons.

* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Belated, but still. In October 2017, Jessicka Addams of Music/JackOffJill went public about her experiences of abuse in her past relationship with Twiggy, which shook up the fandoms of ''both'' bands. A couple days later, Manson himself announced that Twiggy was no longer in the band.

** Marilyn Manson is not a {{goth}} band, and they have never claimed to be so. It seems as though only reason [[FanFic/MyImmortal people]] think they are a goth band is because the media kept saying they were. The makeup, nail polish, black clothing, and stereotypical "darkness" of the band didn't help much. The music video for Tainted Love also does not help, what with it being filled with goth kids and all (one even wearing a shirt stating "Nothing but a G(oth) Thing.")

* ExecutiveMeddling: Manson originally wanted to use a nude photo of himself as a baby for the cover of ''Portrait of an American Family''. The label was {{Squick}}ed out and shot down the idea, not being very eager about accusations of child pornography.