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* TrollingCreator: Jhonen enjoys being this on Twitter. Someone once asked if it was acceptable for a white person to cosplay Johnny, since WordOfGod was that Johnny is Hispanic. Jhonen responded by saying that "Well, first of all, Nny is two-dimensional, so anyone cosplaying him in three dimensions is automatically doing it wrong."
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** After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the character to be. He also distanced himself from any notion that the character was his AuthorAvatar, for obvious reasons.

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** After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe StrawNihilist he wanted the character to be. He also distanced himself from any notion that the character was his AuthorAvatar, for obvious reasons.
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-->'''Jhonen:''' What the hell was your problem, nineteen-year old me? I do still like ''Fillerbunny''. Stupid ages better.

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-->'''Jhonen:''' --->'''Jhonen:''' What the hell was your problem, nineteen-year old me? I do still like ''Fillerbunny''. Stupid ages better.



-->'''Jhonen:''' I have to approach each page with a kind of detachment from how annoying or outright ugly something is to me NOW. The books are what they are, and what they are is the product of someone just floundering around with pen and paper having fun doing something they’ve no clue how to do.

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-->'''Jhonen:''' --->'''Jhonen:''' I have to approach each page with a kind of detachment from how annoying or outright ugly something is to me NOW. The books are what they are, and what they are is the product of someone just floundering around with pen and paper having fun doing something they’ve no clue how to do.
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* FanNickname: [[spoiler: The Wall Monster]] is often referred to as "The Moose" by fans due to the combination of a line by [[TooDumbToLive Krik]] mistakenly assuming it to be one and a design on Johnny's shirt reading "777[[note]]Johnny's home address[[/note]]: Number of the Moose". Whether this was an intentional CallBack or merely a coincidence (mooses are one of the many InherentlyFunnyWords [[AuthorAppeal that come up often in Jhonen Vasquez's works]]), it was more than enough material for the fanbase to role with.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. The Columbine High School Massacre, which would go on to become ''the'' defining example of such an event in the American public consciousness, also doesn't so much as get alluded to due to happening just two years after the comic ended.
** The idea of someone recording one of Johnny's murders on their cell phone or posting about them on the internet never gets entertained, as neither was widespread enough at the time of the comic's creation for it to be something the average person would think of.

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** On a more lighthearted note, Jhonen also found the formatting and editing of the comic hilariously slapdash and amateurish when he returned to the original pages years later to scan them for a digital reissue of the series.

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** On a more lighthearted note, Jhonen also found the formatting formatting, editing, and editing cleanup of the comic hilariously slapdash and amateurish when he returned to the original pages years later to scan them for a digital reissue of the series.series.
-->'''Jhonen:''' I have to approach each page with a kind of detachment from how annoying or outright ugly something is to me NOW. The books are what they are, and what they are is the product of someone just floundering around with pen and paper having fun doing something they’ve no clue how to do.
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** The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. The Columbine High School Massacre, which would go on to become ''the'' defining example of such an event in the American public consciousness and ties in closely with the comic's overall themes, also doesn't so much as get alluded to due to happening just two years after it ended.

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** The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. The Columbine High School Massacre, which would go on to become ''the'' defining example of such an event in the American public consciousness and ties in closely with the comic's overall themes, consciousness, also doesn't so much as get alluded to due to happening just two years after it the comic ended.

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* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].

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* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, FanNickname: [[spoiler: The Wall Monster]] is often referred to as "The Moose" by fans due to the combination of a line by [[TooDumbToLive Krik]] mistakenly assuming it to be one and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].a design on Johnny's shirt reading "777[[note]]Johnny's home address[[/note]]: Number of the Moose". Whether this was an intentional CallBack or merely a coincidence (mooses are one of the many InherentlyFunnyWords [[AuthorAppeal that come up often in Jhonen Vasquez's works]]), it was more than enough material for the fanbase to role with.



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. Technology like cell phones and the internet also don't seem to exist, and Columbine, which would become one of the defining examples of a public massacre in the American subconscious just a few years after the comic ended, doesn't so much as get alluded to.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
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The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. Technology like cell phones and the internet also don't seem to exist, and Columbine, The Columbine High School Massacre, which would go on to become one of the ''the'' defining examples example of a public massacre such an event in the American subconscious just a few years after public consciousness and ties in closely with the comic ended, comic's overall themes, also doesn't so much as get alluded to.to due to happening just two years after it ended.
** The idea of someone recording one of Johnny's murders on their cell phone or posting about them on the internet never gets entertained, as neither was widespread enough at the time of the comic's creation for it to be something the average person would think of.
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** On a more lighthearted note, Jhonen also found the formatting of the comic hilariously slapdash and amateurish when he returned to the original pages years later to scan them for a digital reissue of the series.

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** On a more lighthearted note, Jhonen also found the formatting and editing of the comic hilariously slapdash and amateurish when he returned to the original pages years later to scan them for a digital reissue of the series.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. Technology like cell phones and the internet also doesn't so much as get a mention.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. Technology like cell phones and the internet also don't seem to exist, and Columbine, which would become one of the defining examples of a public massacre in the American subconscious just a few years after the comic ended, doesn't so much as get a mention.alluded to.

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* OldShame: After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the character to be. He also distanced himself from any notion that the character was his AuthorAvatar, for obvious reasons.

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After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the character to be. He also distanced himself from any notion that the character was his AuthorAvatar, for obvious reasons.



* WriterRevolt: Jhonen started drawing Happy Noodle Boy when his girlfriend at the time wouldn't stop asking him to draw her stuff while he was working on the comic.

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** On a more lighthearted note, Jhonen also found the formatting of the comic hilariously slapdash and amateurish when he returned to the original pages years later to scan them for a digital reissue of the series.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The series' preoccupation with things like malls and goths firmly places it in the mid-90's. Technology like cell phones and the internet also doesn't so much as get a mention.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The earliest written strips of the series (from Jhonen Vasquez's high school days) were titled ''Johnny The'' Little ''Homicidal Maniac'' and depicted the character as a CreepyChild. There was also no satire in it to speak of; it was all BlackComedy.
* WriterRevolt: Jhonen Vasquez started drawing Happy Noodle Boy when his girlfriend at the time wouldn't stop asking him to draw her stuff while he was working on the comic.

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* BigNameFan: Creator/RosarioDawson is reportedly a huge fan and frequently talked about the comic with Creator/KevinSmith on the set of ''Film/ClerksII''.



* WriterRevolt: Jhonen started drawing Happy Noodle Boy when his girlfriend at the time wouldn't stop asking him to draw her stuff while he was working on the comic.

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* WriterRevolt: Jhonen started drawing Happy Noodle Boy when his girlfriend at the time wouldn't stop asking him to draw her stuff while he was working on the comic.comic.
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* OldShame: After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the character to be.

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* OldShame: After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were written, as he felt they didn't properly convey the explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the character to be. He also distanced himself from any notion that the character was his AuthorAvatar, for obvious reasons.

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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
-->'''Jhonen:''' What the hell was your problem, nineteen-year old me? I do still like ''Fillerbunny''. Stupid ages better.

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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that OldShame: After seeing how many readers were taking Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants [[MisaimedFandom at face value]], Jhonen Vasquez expressed some regret for how the scenes were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, written, as he believes them to be felt they didn't properly convey the root cause of explicitly delusional, hypocritical NietzscheWannabe he wanted the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
character to be.
-->'''Jhonen:''' What the hell was your problem, nineteen-year old me? I do still like ''Fillerbunny''. Stupid ages better.better.
* WriterRevolt: Jhonen started drawing Happy Noodle Boy when his girlfriend at the time wouldn't stop asking him to draw her stuff while he was working on the comic.
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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.

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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.MisaimedFandom.
-->'''Jhonen:''' What the hell was your problem, nineteen-year old me? I do still like ''Fillerbunny''. Stupid ages better.
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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].

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* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].
* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].
MisaimedFandom.
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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite stuck up his own ass, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.

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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite stuck up his own ass, and NietzscheWannabe, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
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* CreatorBacklash: A very minor example, but Jhonen Vasquez has gone on record stating that he wishes that Johnny's HumansAreBastards rants were more clearly written to make him seem like a delusional hypocrite stuck up his own ass, as he believes them to be the root cause of the series' sizable MisaimedFandom.
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* BigNameFan: Creator/RosarioDawson is reportedly a huge fan.

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* BigNameFan: Creator/RosarioDawson is reportedly a huge fan.fan and frequently talked about the comic with Creator/KevinSmith on the set of ''Film/ClerksII''.
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* BigNameFan: Creator/RosarioDawson is reportedly a huge fan.
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* ContractualImmortality: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}: Johnny can't die, and is noticeably [[WhoWantsToLiveForever unhappy about it]].

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