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* CreatorBacklash: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Music/MariahCarey admits to regretting making this film, describing it as a "kitsch moment" in her career and that she and those close to her refer to it as "The G Word" if it ever comes up. Carey did emphasise that she was proud of the film's soundtrack, though, and was glad her fans had a new appreciation for the songs.



* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Music/MariahCarey admits to regretting making this film.

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* StarDerailingRole: This film, along with its accompanying soundtrack, put a damper on Music/MariahCarey's career for a few years until [[CareerResurrection she made a comeback]] musically with ''The Emancipation of Mimi'' and on screen with a supporting role in the critically acclaimed ''Film/{{Precious}}''.

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This film, along with its accompanying soundtrack, put a damper on Music/MariahCarey's career for a few years until [[CareerResurrection she made a comeback]] musically with ''The Emancipation of Mimi'' and on screen with a supporting role in the critically acclaimed ''Film/{{Precious}}''.''Film/{{Precious}}''.
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley--already a virtual unknown to American audiences--who turned down a main role in the SleeperHit ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film, [[StarMakingRole which launched the career of]] the man who took the role instead, Creator/JonathanRhysMeyers, effectively [[HarsherInHindsight killing Beesley's career in the States before it began]].
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. The significant losses caused by ''Glitter''[='s=] failure is also believed to have played a hand in Creator/VirginRecords losing not only Carey, but also Music/DavidBowie, whose album ''Toy'' was shelved by the label for not being the post-''Glitter'' financial safety net they were hoping for (along with possible copyright issues regarding the songs included). Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped ''Glitter'' either.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. The significant losses caused by ''Glitter''[='s=] failure is also believed thought to have played a hand role in Creator/VirginRecords losing not only Carey, but also Music/DavidBowie, whose album ''Toy'' was shelved by the label for not being the post-''Glitter'' financial safety net they were hoping for (along with possible copyright issues regarding the songs included). Being released the weekend right after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped ''Glitter'' either.



* StarDerailingRole: This film served as one for Music/MariahCarey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].

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* StarDerailingRole: This film served as one film, along with its accompanying soundtrack, put a damper on Music/MariahCarey's career for Music/MariahCarey. a few years until [[CareerResurrection For she made a while, anyway]].comeback]] musically with ''The Emancipation of Mimi'' and on screen with a supporting role in the critically acclaimed ''Film/{{Precious}}''.

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* FakeAmerican: Creator/MaxBeesley, who is [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].
* FakeNationality: SpicyLatina Roxanne's actress, Creator/TiaTexada, is actually Ecuadorian-American.



* StarDerailingRole:
** For many of the actors in the film, including Music/MariahCarey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Creator/MaxBeesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].

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* StarDerailingRole:
** For many of the actors in the film, including
StarDerailingRole: This film served as one for Music/MariahCarey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Creator/MaxBeesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].
anyway]].
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* CutSong: A rather ugly case with the original version of "Loverboy", which used a sample of Music/YellowMagicOrchestra's [[Music/YellowMagicOrchestraAlbum cover]] of the 1959 Martin Denny song "Firecracker". Carey had originally been cleared to use the sample, but an acrimonious divorce from Creator/SonyMusic executive Tony Mottola resulted in the latter giving the sample rights to Music/JenniferLopez for her own single "I'm Real" instead. Carey, having made a ChannelHop to the Creator/{{EMI}}-owned Creator/VirginRecords, thus couldn't legally use the sample anymore, and was forced to replace it with one from "Candy" by Music/{{Cameo}}. A snippet of the "Firecracker" version of "Loverboy" can be heard in the trailer for ''Glitter'', and the full version was eventually included on the 2020 compilation ''The Rarities'', by which point Carey was back on [[Creator/EpicRecords a Sony-owned label]].

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* CutSong: A rather ugly case with the The original version of "Loverboy", which "Loverboy" used a sample of Music/YellowMagicOrchestra's [[Music/YellowMagicOrchestraAlbum cover]] of the 1959 Martin Denny song "Firecracker". Carey had originally been cleared to use the sample, but an An acrimonious divorce from Creator/SonyMusic executive Tony Mottola resulted in the latter giving the sample rights to Music/JenniferLopez for her own single "I'm Real" instead. Carey, having Real", forcing Carey (who made a ChannelHop to the Creator/{{EMI}}-owned Creator/VirginRecords, thus couldn't legally use the sample anymore, and was forced away from Sony) to replace it with one from "Candy" by Music/{{Cameo}}. A snippet of the "Firecracker" version of "Loverboy" can be heard in the trailer for ''Glitter'', and the full version was eventually included on the 2020 compilation ''The Rarities'', by which point Carey was back on [[Creator/EpicRecords a Sony-owned label]].
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* FakeMixedRace: Creator/IsabelGomes, a Brazilian actress, plays young Billie, who is biracial of African and Caucasian ancestry.
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* CutSong: A rather ugly case with the original version of "Loverboy", which used a sample of Music/YellowMagicOrchestra's [[Music/YellowMagicOrchestraAlbum cover]] of the 1959 Martin Denny song "Firecracker". Carey had originally been cleared to use the sample, but an acrimonious divorce from Creator/SonyMusic executive Tony Mottola resulted in the latter giving the sample rights to Music/JenniferLopez for her own single "I'm Real" instead. Carey, having made a ChannelHop to the Creator/{{EMI}}-owned Creator/VirginRecords, thus couldn't legally use the sample anymore, and was forced to replace it with one from "Candy" by Music/{{Cameo}}. A snippet of the "Firecracker" version of "Loverboy" can be heard in the trailer for ''Glitter'', and the full version was eventually included on the 2020 compilation ''The Rarities'', by which point Carey was back on [[Creator/EpicRecords a Sony-owned label]].
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* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was one of the most well-received aspects of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the towers were seen.

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* ActorSharedBackground: Carey, like her character Billie, is half-African-American and half-Caucasian.

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* ActorSharedBackground: Carey, Music/MariahCarey, like her character Billie, is half-African-American and half-Caucasian.



* CreatorKiller: Director Vondie Curtis Hall had a well-received debut with ''Gridlock'd'', but this film put the skids on his directing career. Afterwards he mostly went back to acting, with the occasional TV directing credit.
* FakeAmerican: Max Beesley, who is [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].
* FakeMixedRace: Isabel Gomes, a Brazilian actress, plays young Billie, who is biracial of African and Caucasian ancestry.

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* CreatorKiller: Director Vondie Curtis Hall Creator/VondieCurtisHall had a well-received debut with ''Gridlock'd'', but this film put the skids on his directing career. Afterwards he mostly went back to acting, with the occasional TV directing credit.
* FakeAmerican: Max Beesley, Creator/MaxBeesley, who is [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].
* FakeMixedRace: Isabel Gomes, Creator/IsabelGomes, a Brazilian actress, plays young Billie, who is biracial of African and Caucasian ancestry.ancestry.
* FakeNationality: SpicyLatina Roxanne's actress, Creator/TiaTexada, is actually Ecuadorian-American.



** For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].

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** For many of the actors in the film, including Carey.Music/MariahCarey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, Creator/MaxBeesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].
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* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was one of the most well-received aspects of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the towers were seen.

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* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was one of the most well-received aspects of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the towers were seen.seen.
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* ActorSharedBackground: Carey, like her character Billie, is half-African-American and half-Caucasian. However the parents' races are reversed: Billie's mom is black and her father is white, while Mariah Carey's father is black (Afro-Venezuelan) and her mother is white (Irish).

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* ActorSharedBackground: Carey, like her character Billie, is half-African-American and half-Caucasian. However the parents' races are reversed: Billie's mom is black and her father is white, while Mariah Carey's father is black (Afro-Venezuelan) and her mother is white (Irish).
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. The significant losses caused by ''Glitter''[='s=] failure is also believed to have played a hand in EMI Records losing not only Carey, but also Music/DavidBowie, whose album ''Toy'' was shelved by the label for not being the post-''Glitter'' financial safety net they were hoping for (along with possible copyright issues regarding the songs included). Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped ''Glitter'' either.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. The significant losses caused by ''Glitter''[='s=] failure is also believed to have played a hand in EMI Records Creator/VirginRecords losing not only Carey, but also Music/DavidBowie, whose album ''Toy'' was shelved by the label for not being the post-''Glitter'' financial safety net they were hoping for (along with possible copyright issues regarding the songs included). Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped ''Glitter'' either.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped either.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Its $5 million turn against a $22 million budget, along with the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. The significant losses caused by ''Glitter''[='s=] failure is also believed to have played a hand in EMI Records losing not only Carey, but also Music/DavidBowie, whose album ''Toy'' was shelved by the label for not being the post-''Glitter'' financial safety net they were hoping for (along with possible copyright issues regarding the songs included). Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped ''Glitter'' either.
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* FakeMixedRace: Isabel Gomes, a Brazilian actress, plays young Billie, who is biracial of African and Caucasian ancestry.
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* ActorSharedBackground: Carey, like her character Billie, is half-African-American and half-Caucasian. However the parents' races are reversed: Billie's mom is black and her father is white, while Mariah Carey's father is black (Afro-Venezuelan) and her mother is white (Irish).
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $22 million. Box office, $5,271,666. This film's failure, along with that of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped either.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, Its $5 million turn against a $22 million. Box office, $5,271,666. This film's failure, million budget, along with that the similar flop of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped either.



* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was considered one of the only good parts of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the shots were shown.

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* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was considered one of the only good parts most well-received aspects of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the shots towers were shown.seen.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: All the scenes set in New York were really filmed in Toronto, which makes the establishing shots all the funnier as you can recognize a lot of Toronto landmarks as they pan across the city.



* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Music/MariahCarey admits to regret making this film.

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* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Music/MariahCarey admits to regret regretting making this film.
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** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].

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** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch]].Ouch]].
* TooSoon: Averted. The film features many shots of the still-standing Twin Towers, and was completed just a few days before 9/11. As it had a low budget and was already released during what was already considered a {{Dump Month|s}}, the shots were left in instead of being edited out. Surprisingly, this was considered one of the only good parts of the film; critics reported audiences ''cheered'' when the shots were shown.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $22 million. Box office, $5,271,666. This film's failure, along with that of the accompanying soundtrack album, sent Music/MariahCarey's career [[StarDerailingRole into recession]] for several years. Being released the weekend after 9/11 (in what was already [[DumpMonths a traditionally poor month]]) couldn't have helped either.

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* FakeAmerican: Creator/MaxBeesley, who is [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].

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* FakeAmerican: Creator/MaxBeesley, Max Beesley, who is [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].



* StarDerailingRole: For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].

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For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway]].
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Film/FullMetalJacket Dorian Harewood]] plays Billie's record producer.
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* CreatorKiller: Director Vondie Curtis Hall had a well-received debut with ''Gridlock'd'', but this film put the skids on his directing career. Afterwards he mostly went back to acting, with the occasional TV directing credit.
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* FakeAmerican: Max Beesley, who is British.
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[FullMetalJacket Dorian Harewood]] plays Billie's record producer.
* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Mariah Carey admits to regret making this film.
* StarDerailingRole: For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway.]]
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down ''BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch.]]

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* FakeAmerican: Max Beesley, Creator/MaxBeesley, who is British.
[[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} British]].
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[FullMetalJacket [[Film/FullMetalJacket Dorian Harewood]] plays Billie's record producer.
* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Mariah Carey Music/MariahCarey admits to regret making this film.
* StarDerailingRole: For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway.]]
anyway]].
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down ''BendItLikeBeckham'' ''Film/BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch.]]Ouch]].
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** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down to ''BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch.]]

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** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down to ''BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch.]]
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* FakeAmerican: Max Beesley, who is British.
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[FullMetalJacket Dorian Harewood]] plays Billie's record producer.
* OldShame: In an interview with ''Watch What Happens Live'', Mariah Carey admits to regret making this film.
* StarDerailingRole: For many of the actors in the film, including Carey. [[CareerResurrection For a while, anyway.]]
** Possibly the most hurt by the film was Max Beesley, who turned down to ''BendItLikeBeckham'' to do this film. [[HarsherInHindsight Ouch.]]

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