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Plagiarism from Shannon Sullivan’s website and the TARDIS Wiki. The Creator Backlash is also debatable, since Nicholas Briggs is only annoyed towards one line, rather than his performance or the episode.


* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked the episode's director, Creator/GraemeHarper, if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to a Bronze Dalek and ask the question for it to answer. Graeme agreed but they had to get special permission to change the script.



** One expensive sequence removed from the script at the development stage involved the Doctor and Rose ascending to the top of Torchwood Tower in the Jathaa Sun Glider (described as a "space canoe") mentioned in the previous episode; this was replaced with the much simpler moment of Jake summoning them into the lift.
*** More specifically, the money was needed to pay for the beast at the end of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit The Satan Pit]], which otherwise might have been represented as a CreepyChild. Also, crashing into the top floor of a skyscraper within five years of 9/11 might have given the wrong image.
** Dalek Jast was originally named Rabe. This was changed because it sounded too much like Ray. (This was quite a late change, as the original name still appeared on some merchandise.)

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** One expensive sequence removed from the script at the development stage involved An action scene where the Doctor and Rose ascending to rode into the top of Torchwood Tower in the a Jathaa Sun Glider (described as a "space canoe") that had been mentioned in the previous episode; this last episode. It was replaced with the much simpler moment of Jake summoning them into the lift.
*** More specifically, the
cut to divert money elsewhere, since it was needed to pay for the beast at the end of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit The Satan Pit]], which otherwise might have been represented as a CreepyChild. Also, crashing Crashing into the top floor of a skyscraper within five years of 9/11 also might have given the wrong image.
image. This was changed to Jake simply taking them up in a lift.
** Dalek Jast was originally named Rabe. This Rabe, but this was changed because it sounded too much like Ray. (This It was quite a late change, as the original name still appeared on some merchandise.)
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* OrphanedReference: The Cyber Leader telling the Doctor that he's proof that emotions destroy seems off as there wasn't a scene before that. There was a deleted scene where that takes place before that where the Cyber Leader confronts the Doctor asking him what are the Daleks, but the Doctor changes the subjects and tries to trick them that can escape inside the TARDIS.
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* ApprovalOfGod: According to Creator/RussellTDavies, original series producer Creator/VerityLambert enjoyed and praised the episode. About the highest approval a Doctor Who story could get.
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* EditedForSyndication: Re-runs on Britain's Pick channel leaves out the last few seconds with Donna's appearance, resulting in the DownerEnding being played soul-crushingly straight.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked the episode's director, Creator/GraemeHarper, if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to a Gold Dalek and ask the question for it to answer. Graeme agreed but they had to get special permission to change the script.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked the episode's director, Creator/GraemeHarper, if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to a Gold Bronze Dalek and ask the question for it to answer. Graeme agreed but they had to get special permission to change the script.
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* ActingForTwo: Creator/NicholasBriggs voices both the Daleks and the Cybermen, leading to a rather memorable scene where the two races get into a pissing match. This also means any conversation between Daleks is Briggs Talking to Himself.

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* ActingForTwo: Creator/NicholasBriggs voices both the Daleks and the Cybermen, leading to a rather memorable scene where the two races get into a pissing match. This also means any conversation between fellow Daleks or Cybermen is Briggs Talking to Himself.

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Per TRS. Talking To Himself is a disambig and merged with Acting For Two.


* ActingForTwo: Creator/NicholasBriggs voices both the Daleks and the Cybermen, leading to a rather memorable scene where the two races get into a pissing match. This also means any conversation between Daleks is Briggs Talking to Himself.



* TalkingToHimself: Creator/NicholasBriggs voices both the Daleks and the Cybermen, leading to a rather memorable scene where the two races get into a pissing match. This also means any conversation between Daleks is Briggs Talking to Himself.
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* FirstAppearance: Of Donna Noble.

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* InspirationForTheWork: Some elements of the story were inspired by Creator/PhilipPullman's ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'' trilogy. Pullman was "flattered" by the references in the episode, and compared Creator/RussellTDavies' actions to his own practice of referencing works.


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* TalkingToHimself: Creator/NicholasBriggs voices both the Daleks and the Cybermen, leading to a rather memorable scene where the two races get into a pissing match. This also means any conversation between Daleks is Briggs Talking to Himself.
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: The French title is "Adieu Rose".

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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: The French title is [[SpoilerTitle "Adieu Rose".Rose"]].
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: The French title is "Adieu Rose".



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***More specifically, the money was needed to pay for the beast at the end of [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit The Satan Pit]], which otherwise might have been represented as a CreepyChild. Also, crashing into the top floor of a skyscraper within five years of 9/11 might have given the wrong image.

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* LyingCreator: Creator/RussellTDavies told the press Rose was gone for good. He told Creator/BilliePiper, "See you in two years".

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* LyingCreator: Creator/RussellTDavies told the press Rose was gone for good. He told Creator/BilliePiper, Creator/BilliePiper "See you in two years".


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* InspirationForTheWork: Some elements of the story were inspired by Creator/PhilipPullman's ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'' trilogy. Pullman was "flattered" by the references in the episode, and compared Creator/RussellTDavies' actions to his own practice of referencing works.



* WorkingTitle: ''Torchwood Falls''.

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* WorkingTitle: ''Torchwood Falls''.Falls''.
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** Dalek Jast was originally named Rabe. This was changed because it sounded too much like Ray.

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** Dalek Jast was originally named Rabe. This was changed because it sounded too much like Ray. (This was quite a late change, as the original name still appeared on some merchandise.)
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked episode Creator/GraemeHarper if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to the Gold Dalek and ask answer the question. Graeme agreed, but they had to get special permission to change the script.

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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked episode Creator/GraemeHarper the episode's director, Creator/GraemeHarper, if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to the a Gold Dalek and ask answer the question. question for it to answer. Graeme agreed, agreed but they had to get special permission to change the script.
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* LyingCreator: Creator/RussellTDavies told the press Rose was gone for good. He told Creator/BilliePiper, "See you in two years".
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/NicholasBriggs revealed that he disagreed with the way one of Dalek Sec's opening lines was portrayed. In its original form, Briggs thought it sounded as though Sec was asking something to another Dalek, but then answering his own question. He asked episode Creator/GraemeHarper if they could split it into two lines, have Sec turn to the Gold Dalek and ask answer the question. Graeme agreed, but they had to get special permission to change the script.
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** One expensive sequence removed from the script at the development stage involved the Doctor and Rose ascending to the top of Torchwood Tower in the Jathaa Sun Glider (described as a "space canoe") mentioned in the previous episode; this was replaced with the much simpler moment of Jake summoning them into the lift.
** Dalek Jast was originally named Rabe. This was changed because it sounded too much like Ray.
* WordOfGod: Julie Gardner confirmed that when Rose said "I love you", the Doctor was going to 'say it back'.
* WorkingTitle: ''Torchwood Falls''.
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