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* Mannheim gets Canis to break down by forcing the New God to realize that Darkseid has cast him aside.

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* Mannheim gets Canis to break down by forcing the New God to realize that Darkseid has cast him aside.


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* In order to recover from their trauma, the various members of the Forever People tell Paul of the horrible things they experienced while captured by Apokolips.
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* Mannheim gets Canis to break down by forcing the New God to realize that Darkseid has cast him aside.
* Karon ends up a sobbing mess after Mannheim is through with her.
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** It's later shown that Holly is one of the people severely affected by the Anti-Life, and that all she can do now is literally hang onto Karon and do whatever her girlfriend tells her to do.
* Karon tells Robin that the reason she's still so functional despite all of the horrible feelings that the Anti-Life brings out of her is because she's always felt those feelings due to growing up in Gotham.
--> '''Karon:''' This isn't a dark fantasy or a tearing away of the veil. This is '''Gotham''', as most people lived it. From the mobs to the supervillains, nothing really got better. The way it manifested changed… But so what?\\
'''Robin:''' You mean you ''always'' felt like this?\\
'''Karon:''' It was always lurking in the background. It's not new for me.
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* It's revealed that several people have already killed themselves as a result of the Anti-Life infecting all of humanity.
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* Doctor Mist expresses how disappointed he is over the fact that, in order to combat the effect of the Anti-Life, the heroes of the world must effectively becomes dictators, something which goes against some of his core beliefs.

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* Doctor Mist expresses how disappointed he is over the fact that, in order to combat the effect of the Anti-Life, the heroes of the world must [[BenevolentDictator effectively becomes dictators, dictators]], something which goes against some of his core beliefs.

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* After Mannheim infects the entire Earth with the Anti-Life, we get to see through the eyes of various people who've been affected by it how it's altering their worldview in real time.
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* Doctor Mist expresses how disappointed he is over the fact that, in order to combat the effect of the Anti-Life, the heroes of the world must effectively becomes dictators, something which goes against some of his core beliefs.
* Euanthe is despondent over how much of the Green was destroyed by the Grey because of the Anti-Life.
--> '''Euanthe:''' The souls of trees, ancient and primal. And now… They are gone. Mortality, even in the eternal Green.
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* Zoat can imagine OL asking Alan to look up old friends, and when he returns, [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/17512978/ it's to Alan slumped in his chair, looking through a long list of crossed-out names]].

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* After being exorcised, Kara 666 was sent to Reformation Island to try and recover from her trauma. When Paul and John Constantine visit her, they find that she's still ''severely'' traumatized from her experience.
** She asks Paul if she can go home, causing Paul to think on the possibility that the people of her Earth won't ''want'' her back.

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* Zoat can imagine OL asking Alan to look up old friends, and when he returns, [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/17512978/ it's to Alan slumped in his chair, looking through a long list of crossed-out names]].

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* After being exorcised, Kara 666 was sent to Reformation Island to try and recover from her trauma. When Paul and John Constantine visit her, they find that she's still ''severely'' traumatized from her experience.
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* Zoat can imagine OL asking Alan to look up old friends, and when he returns, [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/17512978/ it's to Alan slumped in his chair, looking through a long list of crossed-out names]].
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* After being exorcised, Kara 666 was sent to Reformation Island to try and recover from her trauma. When Paul and John Constantine visit her, they find that she's still ''severely'' traumatized from her experience.
** She asks Paul if she can go home, causing Paul to think on the possibility that the people of her Earth won't ''want'' her back.

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* In the Renegade timeline, Magnificus Sivana attempts to go back in time to prevent the murder of his mother and siblings, which will also hopefully prevent his father from committing suicide in his quest to avenge their deaths. He fails, and all the Renegade can do to help is be there for him.
--> [-"Why? Why can't I-?"-]
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* Future Orange Lantern succeeds in getting Nightmare Moon to not attack her sister after being freed. However, this involves getting her to leave Equestria, which greatly saddens Celestia as she has missed her sister.
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* After the experiences she's had, Euanthe finds that she can't go back to how she was before.
--> '''Paul:''' What have you been doing since I saw you last?\\
'''Euanthe:''' Existing. Forgetting. Remembering. Having seen what I saw, I find I cannot simply cavort with my sisters as I once did. I fear that what I experienced has forever marked me as a thing apart.

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* Having Zatanna lose her father is just as painful as it was in canon. Which is made even worse due to the fact that Zatara was saved in the Renegade timeline.

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* Having Zatanna lose her father is just as painful as it was in canon. Which This is made even worse for readers due to the fact that Zatara was saved in the Renegade timeline.timeline.
** It later gets worse for Zatanna after she and Paul find out that Doctor Fate is being made part of the Justice League.
---> Her voice fades, replaced by a sort of buzzing. My mouth opens slightly and my eyes widen but other than that I'm paralysed by the horror of what I'm seeing as Nabu, dressed in blue and gold and '''Giovanni Zatara's body''' steps out of the Hall of Justice. Dimly I think I hear Zatanna gasp but my mind is empty. I just stare at his helmet as he takes his place in the line up.\\
[-"How..? How could they do this..?"-]\\
I think some other people are coming out after him. Miss Grant's mouth is moving. That's probably important? There's probably… There might be someone..? The camera angle changes to give a wider image and I find my eyes shifting over to Diana.\\
How could you? How.. how could you? ''Why..?''\\
The world snaps back into focus as I hear Zatanna whimper. She shakily gets to her feet and I can see the tracks of the tears that are already running down her cheeks and I'm on my feet and putting my arms around her and resting my head on hers as she cries into my shoulder.

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* Kara isolates herself whenever she can because, although everyone looks similar to Kryptonians, the moment they say something, they don't say it in Kryptonese and she is reminded that [[YouCantGoHomeAgain her home is gone forever]].

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* It is revealed in ''Wing and Dagger'' that Kara isolates herself whenever she can because, although everyone looks similar to Kryptonians, the moment they say someone says something, they don't say it in Kryptonese Kryptonese, and she is reminded that [[YouCantGoHomeAgain her home is gone forever]].forever]].
* The Renegade finds Magnificus Sivana slumped in the living room wearing his pajamas. He, understandably, is still suffering from depression due to the loss of his mother and siblings.
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* Coutara eh'Jerrd, a woman who comes from a society that ritually removes the eyes of their females at maturity to ensure their servitude to the males of their species. She was horrified when she heard that her beloved daughter who loves to paint was going to go through Rite of Unseeing. All she can do is get on her knees and beg OL for forgiveness because she thinks its normal and she shouldn't feel sad about it.
** When OL overthrows the theocracy, you'd think everyone would be happy. Nope, without the religious foundation for their society, violent crime rises something like 200%, no matter how cruel and unnecessary it was. Dox even calls him out on how the Orange Lantern Corps now has to devote a ton of extra manpower to this one planet because it has to restructure both its culture and society within a single generation. Not that Dox thinks it's wrong, he just points out that OL gave them a ''ton'' of extra work.

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* Coutara eh'Jerrd, a woman who comes from a society that ritually removes the eyes of their females at maturity to ensure their servitude to the males of their species. She was horrified heartbroken when she heard that the time came for her beloved daughter daughter, who loves to paint was going paint, to go through the Rite of Unseeing. All she can do is get on her knees and beg OL for forgiveness because she thinks its it's normal and that she shouldn't feel sad about it.
** When OL overthrows the theocracy, you'd think everyone would be happy. Nope, without the religious foundation for their society, violent crime rises something like 200%, no matter how cruel and unnecessary it was. Dox even calls him out on how the Orange Lantern Corps now has to devote a ton of extra manpower to this one planet because it has to restructure both its culture and society within a single generation. Not that Dox thinks it's wrong, a bad thing to do, he just points out that OL gave them a ''ton'' of extra work.



* The Archangel of War, Karrien Excalibris, kills Ted Kord off-screen for supporting Paul. He gets better, but still.

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* The Archangel of War, Karrien Excalibris, kills Ted Kord off-screen for supporting Paul. He (He gets better, resurrected, but still.)
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* Sunset finally reunites with Celestia and have a private conversation. We don't see what happens directly, but it ends with Sunset storming out of the room and asking to return to Earth. Both alicorns are upset, but the Renegade complies, against Celestia's wishes.

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* Sunset finally reunites with Celestia and have has a private conversation. We don't see what happens directly, but it ends with Sunset storming out of the room and asking to return to Earth. Both alicorns are upset, but the Renegade complies, against Celestia's wishes.
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* While preparing for Grayven's attack on Vega, the Renegade, Artemis, and Kanto 50 investigate a world that was recently attacked by the other New God of Conquest. They find that all the people and animals are missing, leaving an empty, desolate world.
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** In the Renegade timeline, the Renegade tells Wonder Woman why he handed over Felix Faust, Blackbriar Thorn and Wotan to China; because they suffered by far the most, due to it being day on their side of the world. The head Chairmain of China has a niece. He ''had'' a nephew.

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** In the Renegade timeline, the Renegade tells Wonder Woman why he handed over Felix Faust, Blackbriar Thorn and Wotan to China; China: because they suffered by far the most, due to it being day on their side of the world. The head Chairmain Chairman Jiang of China the Chinese Standing Committee on Metahuman Affairs has a niece. He ''had'' a nephew.



* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, Green Lantern Power Battery in hand, only to find Alan Scott has already passed away.

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* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, Green Lantern Power Battery personal lantern in hand, only to find Alan Scott has already passed away.
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* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, green lantern in hand, only to find Alan Scott has already passed away.

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* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, green lantern Green Lantern Power Battery in hand, only to find Alan Scott has already passed away.



* Kara isolates herself whenever she can because, although everyone looks similar to Kryptonians, the moment they say something, they don't say it in Kryptonese and she is reminded that her home is gone forever.

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* Kara isolates herself whenever she can because, although everyone looks similar to Kryptonians, the moment they say something, they don't say it in Kryptonese and she is reminded that [[YouCantGoHomeAgain her home is gone forever.forever]].
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--> '''M'gann:''' This is how you feel all the time, isn't it? You try to fix things and everyone just-. ... But if they want Grayven- ''[M'gann goes Burning Martian]'' -then they can ''have'' Grayven.

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--> '''M'gann:''' This is how you feel all the time, isn't it? You try to fix things and everyone just-. ... [...] But if they want Grayven- ''[M'gann goes Burning Martian]'' -then they can ''have'' Grayven.
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--> "I just… Killed my Cat. And not just in a are-Construct-Lanterns-still-people sort of way. She's… Gone."

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--> "I just… just... Killed my Cat. And not just in a are-Construct-Lanterns-still-people sort of way. She's… She's... Gone."

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--> '''M'gann:''' This is how you feel all the time, isn't it? You try to fix things and everyone just-\\\
'''M'gann:''' But if they want Grayven- ''[M'gann goes Burning Martian]'' -then they can ''have'' Grayven.

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--> '''M'gann:''' This is how you feel all the time, isn't it? You try to fix things and everyone just-\\\
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just-. ... But if they want Grayven- ''[M'gann goes Burning Martian]'' -then they can ''have'' Grayven.

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** Later, she gets another brief HopeSpot when Wally calls Orange Lantern "OL," or "Oh-El," as the text puts it. She, for just a moment, thought that Paul was another member of the House of El that survived.



* The Archangel of War, Karrien Excalibris, kills Ted Kord off-screen for supporting Paul.

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* The Archangel of War, Karrien Excalibris, kills Ted Kord off-screen for supporting Paul. He gets better, but still.
* People who don't go to the Silver City (Heaven) aren't allowed to visit or see family members who did. Hades promises to bring this up with them and try to change it.
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* We see how Tangseid started down the path he would take, and it is sad that it was one mistake on that version of Paul's part that led to him deciding to MindControl the League to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood create a better world]].
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* There's something disheartening about seeing the Flash, someone who asked Paul to not quickly resort to killing as it might give the wrong message to other members of the Team, killing anyone, even if it is [[AlwaysChaoticEvil the Sheeda]], in cold blood.

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* There's something disheartening about seeing the Flash, someone who asked Paul to not quickly resort to killing as it might give the wrong message to other members of the Team, killing anyone, anyone in cold blood, even if it is [[AlwaysChaoticEvil the Sheeda]], in cold blood.
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* There's something disheartening about seeing the Flash, someone who asked Paul to not quickly resort to killing as it might give the wrong message to other members of the Team, killing anyone, even if it is [[AlwaysChaoticEvil the Sheeda]], in cold blood.
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* The treatment of Tamaranian slaves at the hands of the Gordanians and Citadelians.
* Even though they helped in oppressing the Tamaranians, it's hard not to feel a little sorry for the Gordanians Paul had marooned on an asteroid with almost no hope of ever leaving in their lifetime.

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* The treatment of Tamaranian Tamaranean slaves at the hands of the Gordanians and Citadelians.
* Even though they helped in oppressing the Tamaranians, Tamaraneans, it's hard not to feel a little sorry for the Gordanians Paul had marooned on an asteroid with almost no hope of ever leaving in their lifetime.



* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, green lantern in hand, to find Alan Scott has already passed away.

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* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', the Renegade returns to Earth, green lantern in hand, only to find Alan Scott has already passed away.



** When asked, Sunset reveals that Celestia essentially accused her of cheating- finding a dangerous shortcut to ascension instead of the safe way that Twilight did. In the end, Sunset breaks down crying in Grayven's arms, crying because she and Celestia cannot understand one another's point of view any longer- if they ever did.
* Even though it is a giant monstrosity that can destroy entire civilizations, there is something depressing about Paul hearing the last incoherent thoughts of a Mother Star as it dies.

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** When asked, Sunset reveals that Celestia essentially accused her of cheating- finding a dangerous shortcut to ascension instead of the safe way that Twilight did. In the end, Sunset breaks down crying in Grayven's the Renegade's arms, crying because she and Celestia cannot understand one another's point of view any longer- if they ever did.
* Even though it is a giant monstrosity that can destroy entire civilizations, there is something depressing about Paul seeing and hearing the last incoherent thoughts of a Mother Star as it dies.
** It later revealed that what Paul saw and heard were basically the last dreams of the civilizations the Star Conquerors killed. Paul spends time recording what he experienced, as that is all that is left of them.
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** When asked, Sunset reveals that Celestia essentially accused her of cheating- finding a dangerous shortcut to ascension instead of the safe way that Twilight did. In the end, Sunset breaks down crying in Grayven's arms, crying because she and Celestia cannot understand one another's point of view any longer- if they ever did.
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* Even though it is a giant monstrosity that can destroy entire civilizations, there is something depressing about Paul hearing the last incoherent thoughts of a Mother Star as it dies.
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** In the Renegade timeline, Grayven tells Wonder Woman why he handed over Felix Faust, Blackbriar Thorn and Wotan to China; because they suffered by far the most, due to it being day on their side of the world. The head Chairmain of China has a niece. He ''had'' a newphew.
---> '''Grayven:''' He tried to cook some rice for his baby sister, because she was hungry. He spilled boiling water on himself. He lived until just after the worlds reconnected. It's the personal stories that get you, isn't it?

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** In the Renegade timeline, Grayven the Renegade tells Wonder Woman why he handed over Felix Faust, Blackbriar Thorn and Wotan to China; because they suffered by far the most, due to it being day on their side of the world. The head Chairmain of China has a niece. He ''had'' a newphew.
nephew.
---> '''Grayven:''' '''Renegade:''' He tried to cook some rice for his baby sister, because she was hungry. He spilled boiling water on himself. He lived until just after the worlds reconnected. It's the personal stories that get you, isn't it?



* It's heart-wrenching to see how Eliza Harmon suffered for still believing in the Flash after the Justice Lords were taken out of power. Her belief in the Flash is validated when she receives the Flash's VideoWill and how he hoped to meet her after dealing with Luthor (who killed him in that universe). But unbeknownst to her, the entire thing is set up by Grayven and the Justice Lords so the world can have a new Flash and the actual Flash never made a will or even heard of her.
* Justice Lord John Stewart and Shayera. They have the same passionate and deep love of each other as their Earth 12 counterparts do, but John had to spend a year watching the love of his life slowly and painfully die (until Grayven showed up and healed her).

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* It's heart-wrenching to see how Eliza Harmon suffered for still believing in the Flash after the Justice Lords were taken out of power. Her belief in the Flash is validated when she receives the Flash's VideoWill and how he hoped to meet her after dealing with Luthor (who killed him in that universe). But unbeknownst to her, the entire thing is set up by Grayven the Renegade and the Justice Lords so the world can have a new Flash and the actual Flash never made a will or even heard of her.
* Justice Lord John Stewart and Shayera. They have the same passionate and deep love of each other as their Earth 12 counterparts do, but John had to spend a year watching the love of his life slowly and painfully die (until Grayven the Renegade showed up and healed her).



* Grayven's moment of triumph after defeating The Light comes crashing down when he goes to Jade, pardon in hand and ready to propose a date for the wedding, and finds her ''absolutely terrified'' after hearing about the League of Shadows being destroyed. When she finds out that Grayven betrayed The Light after being offered a seat at the table, destroying the organization that she dedicated her life to without giving her a moment's thought or warning, she becomes so enraged that she ''physically attacks him'' and makes it very clear that she never wants to see him again. [[FromBadToWorse And then Darkseid shows up to have a chat with his son.]]
** Made worse when Grayven [[HarsherInHindsight is confronted]] with his own memories and is forced to acknowledge that it was his own [[PoorCommunicationKills lack of communication]], his [[ItsAllAboutMe lack of consideration]] towards Jade's feelings and inability to trust her with his plans that destroyed their relationship, and put her in a horrible position as a result.
** When the two meet again after a few months, Jade still doesn't want anything to do with him. Grayven has no idea how to fix their relationship.

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* Grayven's The Renegade's moment of triumph after defeating The Light comes crashing down when he goes to Jade, pardon in hand and ready to propose a date for the wedding, and finds her ''absolutely terrified'' after hearing about the League of Shadows being destroyed. When she finds out that Grayven the Renegade betrayed The Light after being offered a seat at the table, destroying the organization that she dedicated her life to without giving her a moment's thought or warning, she becomes so enraged that she ''physically attacks him'' and makes it very clear that she never wants to see him again. [[FromBadToWorse And then Darkseid shows up to have a chat with his son.]]
** Made worse when Grayven the Renegade [[HarsherInHindsight is confronted]] with his own memories and is forced to acknowledge that it was his own [[PoorCommunicationKills lack of communication]], his [[ItsAllAboutMe lack of consideration]] towards Jade's feelings and inability to trust her with his plans that destroyed their relationship, and put her in a horrible position as a result.
** When the two meet again after a few months, Jade still doesn't want anything to do with him. Grayven The Renegade has no idea how to fix their relationship.



* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', Grayven returns to Earth, green lantern in hand, to find Alan Scott has already passed away.

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* In part 17 of ''Rapprochement'', Grayven the Renegade returns to Earth, green lantern in hand, to find Alan Scott has already passed away.



* Renegade!M'gann finally knows how Grayven feels like all the time. She then decides to [[LetsGetDangerous let loose]].

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* Renegade!M'gann finally knows how Grayven the Renegade feels like all the time. She then decides to [[LetsGetDangerous let loose]].

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