History TearJerker / DarkSouls

** The Witch's eldest daughter escaped relatively unharmed and spent her life defending the abomination her mother has become--until you come along and murder her. Granted, it was in self-defense, but you ''did'' have to kill her sister to get that far, as well as potentially murdering two more of her sisters, her only brother, and desecrating the grave of ''another'' sister. As she dies at your hands, her last thoughts must be the realization that next, you will kill her remaining family, too.

* Another phantom you owe a lot to is Iron Tarkus. In his timeline he was the first and only man to make it past the Iron Golem and after doing so he left behind his summon signature so he could help anyone who came after him in their world. Later on in Anor Londo when you're trying to access the cathedral you find that one again Tarkus has been there before you and broken a window allowing you to reach the bride controls and make progress. Many players would have been excited to meet the man who helped them get so far at this point, sadly it was not to be. Most likely no one gave the painting room much thought when they enter it, fighting painting guardians on some narrow rafters. It's only when you reach the floor that you find a corpse wearing Tarkus' armour. It's not difficult to figure out what happened, a man encumbered by heavy armour, wielding a greatshield and greatsword. For all his strength and courage Tarkus, the man who did so much for you just met a challenge he wasn't suited for.
* When you get [[NobleWolf Great Gray Wolf Sif]]'s HP down far enough, he starts limping and his attacks become slower. Given that he's a PunchClockVillain at worst and one of the most [[AnimationBump beautifully animated]] creatures in the game, it's hard to score the final blow. Is it any wonder there are so many rumors stating you can spare him at this stage?
** New hopes were given in a released DLC, where you travel back into the past. If you find an optional hidden area, you encounter Sif as a puppy and can save him from a group of enemies. He'll even help you out in return by being summonable for the boss. Except it's all ultimately false hope and you still have to kill him in the present. In fact, it's even ''worse'' if you do the DLC first because he actually ''recognizes'' you from the past and lets out a long HowlOfSorrow before drawing Artorias's sword. He doesn't want to fight his friend and rescuer, but his oath to his master demands it.

** Seriously, you have to go out of your way, lore-wise, to meet and kill her. She even calls you out on this douchemenship.

* The final section of the game deserves a slot here as well. You spend the entire game working up to this moment, ringing the Bells of Awakening, braving the notorious Sen's Fortress, traversing the abandoned streets of Anor Londo, and overcoming all other obstacles to open up your final destination. What awaits you here? The Kiln of the First Flame. A wasteland desert made of ashes and partially melted architecture, completely quiet and devoid of life other than the few remaining Black Knights guarding the final area. After, dispatching these final enemies, what is there as the final fight in this game? None other than Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight. Now reduced to the Lord of Cinder, having been [[AndIMustScream BURNING in the Kiln]] ever since he first lit the First Flame. And to make matters worse? He gets no intro cinematic, no dialogue, you just have this once great man lunge at you as soon as you cross the fog, as a simple, elegant, and impossibly depressing piano piece plays as you fight this fallen hero. Both to accomplish your goals, and for this point it'd seem to be [[MercyKill put him out of his misery]].

** If you do decide to give her Artorias' soul, she trades you her weapons, saying that she "no longer has any need for them". Note that this is ''the leader of an elite group of assassins'' -- her giving away her weapons essentially means she gave up the life she once had, and the rank she worked hard for, to spend the rest of her days guarding the grave of the man she loved. This may have well been the case, since you can find her Hornet Ring on [[TogetherInDeath a female corpse behind]] [[UndyingLoyalty Artorias's gravestone in the present time.]]

** Speaking of which - do you want to know the true history of Pinwheel? The boss who is regarded as a joke to many players? Well, the lore and interviews paint a picture of a man who lost his son and wife and became desperate to get them back. He turned to necromancy and eventually managed to steal a part of Gravelord Nito's power. After many desperate attempts, he manged to bring them back...only it all went wrong. You ever wondered why he has three masks and six 'arms'? Well, it's because the bodies of his wife and son are [[http://i.imgur.com/fJ0nMF8.jpg FUSED]] [[http://i.imgur.com/kSg3YSC.png to]] the body of the father at the waist, therefore making him literally carry the weight of his mistake. From Software just loves to make even the weakest bosses sad, huh?

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. Though it also becomes a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in VideoGame/DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.

* Reah of Thorolund's story. A FragileFlower ''and'' ShrinkingViolet, Reah is uncomfortable around the player character at first and only wishes to carry out her mission of finding the Rite of Kindling. Later in the game, you find out that Petrus betrayed her and left her to die in the Tomb of the Giants, and her two bodyguards Vince and Nico had already gone Hollow and she needs to be rescued from them. She later moves to the Undead Parish and will teach you miracles, [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe becoming much friendlier towards and]] [[ImpliedLoveInterest growing fond of you]] each time you visit. Unfortunately, she still suffers from [[ItsAllMyFault survivor's guilt]] and she will either die at the hands of Petrus or go Hollow in the Duke's Archives, where you yourself will be forced to kill her in self-defense.

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in VideoGame/DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.

* The fate of the protagonist of the ''Age of Fire'' prequel comics, Akron the Silver Knight. He is ultimately unable to accomplish anything, suffers immensely, [[spoiler:and ends up just another Black Knight slain by the Chosen Undead.]]

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.

** Killing Quelaag's sister will make you feel like a monster

** Quelana, Mother of Pyromancy, escaped relatively unharmed but suffered horrific PTSD as a result that even time seems unable to heal. After you kill [[spoiler:Bed of Chaos]], Quelana begins to warm up to you, even admitting that you've outgrown the title "fool". But after you've learned all of her pyromancy and fully upgraded your Flame, she [[spoiler:says her goodbyes, remarking that since she has nothing more to teach you, your time together is over. She refuses to speak to you, and once she leaves, is never seen again.]]

** [[UnfortunateNames Ceaseless Discharge]] seems like a one-off, gruesome monster that plays no point but to guard Lost Izalith and a decent armor set, set? Well, according to some hints in game and also outright stated in an interview with one of the creators, [[spoiler:there is actually a brother of the Sisters of Chaos, who was born covered in sores that constantly poured out lava. The Witch of Izalith and her daughters made the Orange Charred Ring to help him with the pain, but he dropped it and the ring grew into the Centipede Demon. In the interview, the director stated that now he's become a sad, twisted giant whose only form of solace is watching over his sisters grave and ignoring the pain from his the lava ceaselessly discharging from his warped body.]] Bet you feel bad for chuckling at his name now, huh?

** What's worse is the fact that even if he survives ''that'', there's still the fact of what happens to any who would accept the fate of the Chosen Undead within the Kiln of the First Flame. [[spoiler:Solaire can indeed become the new sun of his world if he's summoned for the fight against Gwyn, but it's doubtful it was at all what he was expecting...]] See his tale [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skV-q5KjrUA&list=PLWLedd0Zw3c5RCXboUsPwHsZJlXB2CzCz&index=3 here]] for the full extent of it...

* The conclusion to the Siegmeyer and Sieglinde sidequest. [[spoiler:When the former goes Hollow, the latter is forced to kill him. Siegmeyer is already dead by the time the player reaches them, with a grief-stricken Sieglinde standing over her father's corpse. For extra PlayerPunch, it's highly likely that he only went Hollow because ''you kept helping him''. He prided himself on being a great adventurer, and anytime he encountered an obstacle he found difficult, [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter you came along and bulldozed through it like it was nothing]], making him lose faith in his own abilities.]]
** An alternate conclusion to the sidequest is no happier. [[spoiler:Should Siegmeyer take too much damage during the fight with the Chaos Eaters in Lost Izalith, and survive the fight, he will die from his injuries. To make matters worse, [[SenselessSacrifice he dies utterly miserable that he's "failed" the player character]] and his last words have him calling for his daughter, similar to if the player kills him.]]
** The entire premise of the [[SadisticChoice Chaos Eaters choice]]. He has been losing faith in himself ever since [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter you came along]] and is getting ever closer to [[DespairEventHorizon going fully hollow]] (the equivalent of death). When he gets to have his [[spoiler:[[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic]] [[DoNotGoGentle last]] [[HeroicSacrifice stand]], he finally seems to be in his element. Very likely a SelfSacrificeScheme, but can the hero let him die knowing they could have saved him?]]
* There's a very subtle one involving Witch Beatrice. [[spoiler:So you beat the Four Kings, quite possibly with the help of phantom Beatrice, and you're exulting and also wondering just when you're going to meet Beatrice for real, since she's helped you out via phantom sign twice now. And then you go beyond the Kings, and you see... a body with all of Beatrice's stuff on it. The item descriptions make it clear Beatrice lived ''centuries'' before you did and could help you due to Lordran's convoluted flow of time, but for your purposes, she's dead. She may have even tried challenging the Kings again after helping ''you''.]]
* Another phanton you owe a lot to is Iron Tarkus. In his timeline he was the first and only man to make it past the Iron Golem and after doing so he left behind his summon signature so he could help anyone who came after him in their world. Later on in Anor Londo when you're trying to access the cathedral you find that one again Tarkus has been there before you and broken a window allowing you to reach the bride controls and make progress. Many players would have been excited to meet the man who helped them get so far at this point, sadly it was not to be. Most likely no one gave the painting room much thought when they enter it, fighting painting guardians on some narrow rafters. It's only when you reach the floor that you find a corpse wearing Tarkus' armour. It's not difficult to figure out what happened, a man encumbered by heavy armour, wielding a greatshield and greatsword. For all his strength and courage Tarkus, the man who did so much for you just met a challenge he wasn't suited for.

** New hopes were given in a released DLC, where you travel back into the past. If you find an optional hidden area, you encounter Sif as a puppy and can save him from a group of enemies. He'll even help you out in return by being summonable for the boss. [[spoiler:Except it's all ultimately false hope and you still have to kill him in the present. In fact, it's even ''worse'' if you do the DLC first because he actually ''recognizes'' you from the past and lets out a long HowlOfSorrow before drawing Artorias's sword. He doesn't want to fight his friend and rescuer, but his oath to his master demands it]].
* Logan's fate [[spoiler:if you buy all his spells; he will continue his research for what made Seath immortal. After defeating Seath and going back to Logan, he has gone completly mad from the research and disappears the next time you rezone. Upon going back to where you first "[[HopelessBossFight fought]]" Seath, you can find a now [[InsaneEqualsViolent violently insane]] Logan [[FullFrontalAssault with nothing on besides his signature hat]].]]

* Though many friendly characters will become Hollow, under the right circumstances, special mention goes to Laurentius of the Great Swamp. An all around NiceGuy, doesn't get offended if you decline to learn pyromancy or walk away while he talks, and has learned to shrug off any negative opinions on pyromancy; he's quite possibly the most genuinely kind NPC in the game. He's especially thankful to you for saving his life, and considers you to be a friend. However, if you show him either the Ascended Pyromancy Flame or any Chaos Pyromancy, he'll become excited and ask how you came across such powerful pyromancy. Opting to tell him rekindles the fervor he had when he first became undead, and he then leaves Firelink Shrine to track down Quelana so he can continue studying and mastering his art. [[spoiler:The next time you encounter him, he's gone Hollow in Blighttown, mere paces away from where Quelana is located. He was right there, close to achieving his goal, and it slipped through his fingers.]] And even worse? The last thing he does before leaving is thank you for helping him once again.

* The final section of the game deserves a slot here as well. You spend the entire game working up to this moment, ringing the Bells of Awakening, braving the notorious Sen's Fortress, traversing the abandoned streets of Anor Londo, and overcoming all other obstacles to open up your final destination. What awaits you here? [[spoiler:The Kiln of the First Flame. A wasteland desert made of ashes and partially melted architecture, completely quiet and devoid of life other than the few remaining Black Knights guarding the final area.]] After, dispatching these final enemies, what is there as the final fight in this game? None other than [[spoiler:Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight. Now reduced to the Lord of Cinder, having been [[AndIMustScream BURNING in the Kiln]] ever since he first lit the First Flame. And to make matters worse? He gets no intro cinematic, no dialogue, you just have this once great man lunge at you as soon as you cross the fog, as a simple, elegant, and impossibly depressing piano piece plays as you fight this fallen hero. Both to accomplish your goals, and for this point it'd seem to be [[MercyKill put him out of his misery]].]]
** The simple revelation that [[spoiler:you're not fighting an EldritchAbomination, a GodOfEvil, or a great EvilOverlord king of any sort. Instead, you're just fighting some old man. A husk of an old, terrified man who was not a pure god, but was simply just as flawed as anyone else. A humane god of the highest order, having sacrificed his own life just to prolong the world's existence for just a little longer. An EmptyShell [[MercyKill that must simply be put to rest.]]]]
** One Website/YouTube comment described it as less an epic boss battle and more an execution of [[spoiler:a frightened and lonely old man afraid of change.]]
* The PC edition piles it on regarding the backstory of Artorias the Abysswalker. Artorias was not involved with the Darkwraiths of New Londo at all. In reality, he was sent to Oolacile to destroy [[spoiler:Manus, the father of the Abyss. Unfortunately, Artorias could not handle the pure blackness of the Abyss. He set up his blessed greatshield to form a magical barrier to protect his wolf companion, Sif, who at the time was an infant (though still the size of an adult wolf). Artorias was defeated by Manus and forcibly corrupted against his will. His companions, Gough and Ciaran, both thank you should you MercyKill him.]] See the full story [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d82kJlb5Us here.]]
** Even more haunting is his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upzLAJhtnvk cut dialogue]] that is found by mining the files of the PC version. [[spoiler:Through it, the player finds out that Artorias was not only aware of himself in his boss fight, but also tremendously terrified towards the Abyss, miserable about his failure, and desperate about his own corruption.]]

** That very same [=YouTuber=] made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGS3O27XYY two]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopqgAtk0Q4 videos]] essentially summing up the backstory of the game up to the Chosen Undead [[spoiler:finally entering the Kiln of the First Flame]], telling of the rise and fall of the kingdom Gywn fought so hard to maintain, and of how fire warred with dark 'til the bitter end. ''*Note: Spoilers for a good portion of the game, including the DLC. Watch at your own risk.*''

* Reah of Thorolund's story. A FragileFlower ''and'' ShrinkingViolet, Reah is uncomfortable around the player character at first and only wishes to carry out her mission of finding the Rite of Kindling. Later in the game, you find out that [[spoiler:Petrus betrayed her and left her to die in the Tomb of the Giants, and her two bodyguards Vince and Nico had already gone Hollow and she needs to be rescued from them.]] She later moves to the Undead Parish and will teach you miracles, [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe becoming much friendlier towards and]] [[ImpliedLoveInterest growing fond of you]] each time you visit. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, she still suffers from [[ItsAllMyFault survivor's guilt]] and she will either die at the hands of Petrus or go Hollow in the Duke's Archives, where you yourself will be forced to kill her in self-defense.]]
* If you happened to own the official art book and paid attention to Gwyndolin, he's [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbm4xnDrQ41rixdjuo1_500.png mourning for his father Gwyn]] at the tomb, with a flower laid on the coffin alone. [[spoiler:Instead of telling the truth to everyone, he chose to endure the pain on his own and shroud Anor Londo with his illusion. The seemly JerkassGod who manipulated you all the time ''[[JerkassWoobie might not be as Jerkass as one might think]]''!]]

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. [[spoiler: Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.]]

* The final section of the game deserves a slot here as well. You spend the entire game working up to this moment, ringing the Bells of Awakening, braving the notorious Sen's Fortress, traversing the abandoned streets of Anor Londo, and overcoming all other obstacles to open up your final destination. What awaits you here? [[spoiler:The Kiln of the First Flame. A wasteland desert made of ashes and partially melted architecture, completely quiet and devoid of life other than the few remaining Black Knights guarding the final area.]] After, dispatching these final enemies, what is there as the final fight in this game? None other than [[spoiler:Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight. Now reduced to the Lord of Cinder, having been [[AndIMustScream BURNING in the Kiln]] ever since he first lit the First Flame. And to make matters worse? He gets no intro cinematic, no dialogue, you just have this once great man lunge at you as soon as you cross the fog, as a simple, elegant, and impossibly depressing piano piece plays as you fight this fallen hero. Both to accomplish your goals, and for this point it'd seem to be [[MercyKill put him out of his misery]].]] One [=YouTuber=] even made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGS3O27XYY two ???]]

** The simple revelation that [[spoiler:you're not fighting an EldritchAbomination, a GodOfEvil, or a great EvilOverlord king of any sort. Instead, you're just fighting some old man. A husk of an old, terrified man who was not a pure god, but was simply just as flawed as anyone else. A humane god of the highest order, having sacrificed his own life just to prolong the world's existence for just a little longer. A HollowShell [[MercyKill that must simply be put to rest.]]]]

** Killing Quelaag' sister will make you feel like a monster

** Let's start with [[TheWoobie the Witch of Izalith]] herself. One of the primordial Lords of the Age of Fire, she and her daughters attempted to recreate the First Flame to preserve the old order of things and prevent the exact state of the world you find in the game. They failed, however, and the entirely of Izalith was swallowed by magical madness and fire. The Witch herself and two of her daughters turned into an EldritchAbomination that began [[MotherOfAThousandYoung spawning demons]].

** The entire premise of the [[SadisticChoice Chaos Eaters choice]]. He has been losing faith in himself ever since [[NiceJobBreakingItHero you came along]] and is getting ever closer to [[DespairEventHorizon going fully hollow]] (the equivalent of death). When he gets to have his [[spoiler:[[DyingMomentOfAwesome epic]] [[DoNotGoGentle last]] [[HeroicSacrifice stand]], he finally seems to be in his element. Very likely a SelfSacrificeScheme, but can the hero let him die knowing they could have saved him?]]

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. [[spoiler: Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.]]
* [[spoiler: The cut dialogue for Artorias' boss fight makes the fight even more tragic. When you first see him he begs you to stay away, halfway through the fight he praises your skill and begs you to stop the abyss from spreading and to kill him. When his health is low enough Artorias starts having visions of Sif, his friends and possibly his love, [[GoOutWithASmile he sounds happy to see them at first]] but he apologises to them for failing to stop the abyss. There are no words to describe how heroic Artorias was and how much you pity his sacrifice for Sif and humanity.]]

* [[spoiler: The cut dialogue for Artorias' boss fight makes the fight even more tragic. When you first see him he begs you to stay away, halfway through the fight he praises your skill and begs you to stop the abyss from spreading and to kill him. When his health is low enough Artorias starts having visions of Sif, his friends and possibly his love,[[GoOutWithASmile he sounds happy to see them at first]] but he apologises to them for failing to stop the abyss. There are no words to describe how heroic Artorias was and how much you pity his sacrifice for Sif and humanity.]]

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug. [[spoiler: Though it also becomes a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when one considers that it's heavily implied in DarkSouls3 that he survived long enough to leave Anor Londo SHORTLY BEFORE THE EVENTS OF THE THIRD GAME.]]

* It's a small one, but the fact that Dragonslayer Ornstein is the last of Gwyn's four knights that is still alive. Artorias, Ciaran, and Gough are dead, and he's the last one left. You gotta give this man a hug.

* The final section of the game deserves a slot here as well. You spend the entire game working up to this moment, ringing the Bells of Awakening, braving the notorious Sen's Fortress, traversing the abandoned streets of Anor Londo, and overcoming all other obstacles to open up your final destination. What awaits you here? [[spoiler:The Kiln of the First Flame. A wasteland desert made of ashes and partially melted architecture, completely quiet and devoid of life other than the few remaining Black Knights guarding the final area.]] After, dispatching these final enemies, what is there as the final fight in this game? None other than [[spoiler:Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight. Now reduced to the Lord of Cinder, having been [[AndIMustScream BURNING in the Kiln]] ever since he first lit the First Flame. And to make matters worse? He gets no intro cinematic, no dialogue, you just have this once great man lunge at you as soon as you cross the fog, as a simple, elegant, and impossibly depressing piano piece plays as you fight this fallen hero. Both to accomplish your goals, and for this point it'd seem to be [[MercyKill put him out of his misery]].]] One Youtuber even made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGS3O27XYY two ???]]
** One Youtube comment described it as less an epic boss battle and more an execution of [[spoiler:a frightened and lonely old man afraid of change.]]

* For more obscure ones, look up "[[PunnyName Prepare To Cry]]" on YouTube. The vid series talks in-depth about the lore behind each character, to the point that even ''Pinwheel'' becomes pitiable.

** That very same Youtuber made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcGS3O27XYY two]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopqgAtk0Q4 videos]] essentially summing up the backstory of the game up to the Chosen Undead [[spoiler:finally entering the Kiln of the First Flame]], telling of the rise and fall of the kingdom Gywn fought so hard to maintain, and of how fire warred with dark 'til the bitter end. ''*Note: Spoilers for a good portion of the game, including the DLC. Watch at your own risk.*''

** New hopes were given in a released DLC, where you travel back into the past. If you find an optional hidden area, you encounter Sif as a puppy and can save him from a group of enemies. He'll even help you out in return by being summonable for the boss. [[spoiler:Except it's all ultimately false hope and you still have to kill him in the present. In fact, it's even ''worse'' if you do the DLC first because he will actually recognize you from the past and let out a long, sorrowful howl because he still must fight you to protect his master's grave, even though he doesn't want to]].

** Let's start with the Witch of Izalith herself. One of the primordial Lords of the Age of Fire, she and her daughters attempted to recreate the First Flame to preserve the old order of things and prevent the exact state of the world you find in the game. They failed, however, and the entirely of Izalith was swallowed by magical madness and fire. The Witch herself and two of her daughters turned into an EldritchAbomination that began [[MotherOfAThousandYoung spawning demons]].

** New hopes were given in a released DLC, [[spoiler:except it's false hope and you still have to kill him. Though he recognizes you from the past, he must reluctantly fight to uphold his promise.]]
* Logan's fate [[spoiler:if you buy all his spells; he will continue his research for what made Seath immortal. After defeating Seath and going back to Logan, he has gone completly mad from the research and disappears the next time you rezone. Upon going back to where you first fought Seath, you can find a now [[InsaneEqualsViolent violently insane]] Logan with nothing on besides his signature hat.]]

** In general, slowly watching Solaire slowly get more and more depressed each time you meet him over the course of your journey is pretty upsetting. Even if he doesn't get DrivenToMadness, finding him sitting dejectedly on the floor in Lost Izalith instead is pretty saddening when you remember how much of a motivated and chipper NiceGuy he was when you first met him.