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* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[ParodyDisplacement which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.
** The hilarious part is that [[RealityIsUnrealistic it takes actual effort]] to make it as crappy as it is on Photoshop, because UsefulNotes/MSPaint can't actually be ''that'' low-quality in and of itself and merely using the lowest JPEG setting on Photoshop isn't enough. Creator/AndrewHussie [[http://web.archive.org/web/20160809040719/https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm has described his techniques]] for reaching that level of graphical shittacularity as being fairly intensive and detailed.
--->''what do you do to the [=SBaHJ=] pages to make them look so unbelievably shitty?''\\
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There is a lot to it. I don't have any trade secrets at all, but if I did, it would probably be the process I apply to those images.\\
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One major tactic: save as jpg, reduce quality to zero, but DON'T SAVE IT YET. Instead, screen capture the preview. Then paste that into the same document, and repeat this process for a while, until you have grown the desired amount of "loss scum".\\
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* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[ParodyDisplacement which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.
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webcomics. The hilarious part is that [[RealityIsUnrealistic it takes actual effort]] to make it as crappy as it is on Photoshop, because UsefulNotes/MSPaint can't actually be ''that'' low-quality in and of itself and merely using the lowest JPEG setting on Photoshop isn't enough. Creator/AndrewHussie has [[http://web.archive.org/web/20160809040719/https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm has described his techniques]] for reaching that level of graphical shittacularity as being fairly intensive and detailed.
--->''what -->''what do you do to the [=SBaHJ=] pages to make them look so unbelievably shitty?''\\
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shitty?''\\\
There is a lot to it. I don't have any trade secrets at all, but if I did, it would probably be the process I apply to those images.\\
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One major tactic: save as jpg, reduce quality to zero, but DON'T SAVE IT YET. Instead, screen capture the preview. Then paste that into the same document, and repeat this process for a while, until you have grown the desired amount of "loss scum".\\
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* Creator/IsaacBaranoff did a [[http://www.mspcomix.com/2013/01/webcomix-agouti-walrus.html one-off comic strip]] mocking a fellow cartoonist who he felt was "biting" his humor and art style. Baranoff's parody of that cartoonist was intentionally done as a bad stick figure drawing, mocking the rival cartoonist's style, which Baranoff disliked, and the dialogue basically accuses the other cartoonist's {{Expy}} character of being a MarySue. [[invoked]]

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* ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'': [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=080217 My name is Gunman Stan McKurt, and I shoot Evil In The Face]]

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* %%* ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'': [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=080217 My name is Gunman Stan McKurt, and I shoot Evil In The Face]]



* [[http://z11.invisionfree.com/WOAM/index.php?showforum=30 These Webcomics Are Bad]] is...[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well,]] [[ShapedLikeItself just sort of is.]]
* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'':
** Marigold's [[http://questionablecontent.net/spacewizards.html fanfiction]]... could use some work. Jeph had a lot of fun writing that.
** Also, Jimbo's romance novels.

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* %%* [[http://z11.invisionfree.com/WOAM/index.php?showforum=30 These Webcomics Are Bad]] is...[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well,]] [[ShapedLikeItself just sort of is.]]
* %%* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'':
** %%** Marigold's [[http://questionablecontent.net/spacewizards.html fanfiction]]... could use some work. Jeph had a lot of fun writing that.
** %%** Also, Jimbo's romance novels.



* "The Degenerate", Corbin's webcomic in ''Webcomic/PlusEV''.

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* %%* "The Degenerate", Corbin's webcomic in ''Webcomic/PlusEV''.



* ''Webcomic/AllenTheAlien'' has the {{B Side Comic|s}} Poorly Drawn Allen.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Dolan}}'' comics use this as their bread and butter.
* Similarly, rage comics don't exactly have a beautiful artistic style, but they provide a framework where artistic rank amateurs with a sense of humor can compete with people with artistic talent on equal ground. So the suck is not so much stylistic as it is functional. Sadly, most post-2010 rage comics tend to use less original art and instead copy used facial expressions and play on common high school humor.

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* %%* ''Webcomic/{{Dolan}}'' comics use this as their bread and butter.
* Similarly, rage comics don't exactly have a beautiful artistic style, but they provide a framework where artistic rank amateurs with a sense of humor can compete with people with artistic talent on equal ground. So the suck is not so much stylistic as it is functional. Sadly, most post-2010 rage comics tend to use less original art and instead copy used facial expressions and play on common high school humor.
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* The original webcomic version of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is deliberately drawn in a crude manner. The work's author, ONE, can draw well if he wants to.
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* ''Webcomic/TeenGirlSquad'' is this trope from start to finish.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Muted}}'': In-universe. The birthday card that Camille drew Silvia in a flashback has Soot drawn to be more resembling of a dolphin with legs than a crow; wobbly letters that are a mix of upper and lowercase; and the whole thing is messily colored in with marker. Justified, as Camille can't be much older than 5 in the flashback, and most 5 year olds aren't exactly known for their artistic ability.
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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids:'' The comic's version of ''Solo'' is written by [[TheDitz Jim]], who despite trying desperately manages to completely butcher any attempt at a story, much to the pain of the other players having to act it out.
-->'''Corey:''' This backstory... it's... like watching a train-wreck.
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* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[ParodyDisplacement which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''[[UpToEleven even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows]]'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.

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* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[ParodyDisplacement which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''[[UpToEleven even ''even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows]]'' windows'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.
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** Caliborn is the epitome of this. While HOMOSUCK, his dramatic retelling of the story, is miles better than his original drawings (Which were little more than scribbled lines), when combined with his immature misogynistic writing style, you get something that turns the trope up to eleven... thousand. Lampshaded by the acronym for Dave's planet in the second act, LOSHIT, then somehow [[SerialEscalation magnified]] when he branches into manga and claymation Vines.
** Alpha-universe Dave Strider achieved a physics-defying InUniverse version when he found a way to manufacture physical objects that have jpeg artifacts. They're so cheap and shoddy that they cost less than nothing to make, so he made himself rich by mass-producing them.

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** Caliborn [[TerribleArtist Caliborn]] is the epitome of this. While HOMOSUCK, his dramatic retelling of the story, is miles better than his original drawings (Which were little more than scribbled lines), when combined with his immature misogynistic writing style, you get something that turns the trope up to eleven... thousand. Lampshaded by the acronym for Dave's planet in the second act, LOSHIT, then somehow [[SerialEscalation magnified]] when he branches into manga and claymation Vines.
** Alpha-universe [[ResetButton Alpha-universe]] Dave Strider achieved a physics-defying InUniverse version when he found a way to manufacture physical objects that have jpeg artifacts. They're so cheap and shoddy that they [[MoneyForNothing cost less than nothing to make, make]], so he made himself rich by mass-producing them.
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The trope is being renamed, as discussed in this TRS thread.


* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[WeirdAlEffect which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''[[UpToEleven even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows]]'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.

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* The page image is from ''Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s most prominent ShowWithinAShow, ostensibly written by [[TheLancer Dave Strider]] for ironic purposes. It started life individually from ''Homestuck'', originating as a playful mockery of a mediocre TwoGamersOnACouch comic posted on the ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' forums ([[WeirdAlEffect ([[ParodyDisplacement which never continued past a few unfinished strip concepts]]) and was later integrated into ''Homestuck'' as a ShowWithinAShow. Its primary technique is being a CutAndPasteComic, regularly reusing basic assets from earlier works for most of the panels; the comics are constantly saved as lowest-quality [=JPEGs=], making every subsequent copypaste even more degraded, and it regularly leaves in entire chunks of text, background, other characters, or ''[[UpToEleven even bits of Adobe Photoshop windows]]'' when copying and pasting. Add liberal doses of RougeAnglesOfSatin, TotallyRadical, WordSaladHumor, and FanDisservice, and you have perhaps ''the'' defining example of Stylistic Suck in webcomics.
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** Hussie also uses a form of ArtShift dubbed "[[http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Scribble_Mode Scribble Mode]]" to illustrate particularly stupid things. Lampshaded [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005040 here]].

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** Hussie also uses a form of ArtShift dubbed "[[http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Scribble_Mode Scribble Mode]]" to illustrate particularly stupid things. Lampshaded [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005040 [[https://homestuck.com/story/3140 here]].

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': The print-only version of ''No Cure for the Paladin Blues'' involves Elan recapping the events of the previous book using finger puppets. It's about as good as you'd expect it to be.

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The print-only version of ''No Cure for the Paladin Blues'' involves Elan recapping the events of the previous book using finger puppets. It's about as good as you'd expect it to be.

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* At the start of the second volume ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'', ''No Cure For The Paladin Blues'' the plot to date is summarized by Elan, using finger-puppets.

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* At the start ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': The print-only version of the second volume ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'', ''No Cure For The for the Paladin Blues'' involves Elan recapping the plot to date is summarized by Elan, events of the previous book using finger-puppets.finger puppets. It's about as good as you'd expect it to be.
** According to the author commentary found in the books, the comic's initial art style was meant to be seen this way. However, Burlew found himself putting more effort into the comic as time passed, leading to ArtEvolution.

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