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* ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids' grades dropping and [[MortonsFork being grounded]]'''again!'''

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* ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids' grades dropping and [[MortonsFork being grounded]]'''again!'''grounded]] '''again!'''
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* ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids being taken away by the social worker.

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* ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids kids' grades dropping and [[MortonsFork being taken away by the social worker.grounded]]'''again!'''
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And also if you bought Mermadic Kelp for 25000 Lifetime Happiness points and left your troublesome mermaid without the salty water for only 2 days, it will turn 'human' again. Buying some 'Permanent Mermaid' award for another 5000 points? You'll never gonna be 'human' ever again.

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* And also if you bought Mermadic Kelp for 25000 Lifetime Happiness points and left your troublesome mermaid without the salty water for only 2 days, it will turn 'human' again. Buying some 'Permanent Mermaid' award for another 5000 points? You'll never gonna be 'human' ever again.
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* Comparing them to other supernatural beings who are more of a [[GameBreakers]], mermaids are this for some players. Starting with the fact that becoming a mermaid is a tough task on its own, mermaids don't do THAT much and are extremely needy. They need to be hydrated all the time, or they'll faint or even die on you...like vampires, but much worse. Mermaids also get hungry pretty quickly for some reason and a usual meal doesn't refill their needs as much - you need kelp or raw fish for them to have in their inventory. Best part? When you leave them to play on their own, they still try to eat 'human' food and stay hungry all the time, only decreasing their bladder motive. They also don't run for some water to swim at instantly and wait for themselves to faint.

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* Comparing them to other supernatural beings who are more of a [[GameBreakers]], [[GameBreaker gamebreakers]], mermaids are this for some players. Starting with the fact that becoming a mermaid is a tough task on its own, mermaids don't do THAT much and are extremely needy. They need to be hydrated all the time, or they'll faint or even die on you...like vampires, but much worse. Mermaids also get hungry pretty quickly for some reason and a usual meal doesn't refill their needs as much - you need kelp or raw fish for them to have in their inventory. Best part? When you leave them to play on their own, they still try to eat 'human' food and stay hungry all the time, only decreasing their bladder motive. They also don't run for some water to swim at instantly and wait for themselves to faint.

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* Comparing them to other supernatural beings who are more of a [[GameBreakers]], mermaids are this for some players. Starting with the fact that becoming a mermaid is a tough task on its own, mermaids don't do THAT much and are extremely needy. They need to be hydrated all the time, or they'll faint or even die on you...like vampires, but much worse. Mermaids also get hungry pretty quickly for some reason and a usual meal doesn't refill their needs as much - you need kelp or raw fish for them to have in their inventory. Best part? When you leave them to play on their own, they still try to eat 'human' food and stay hungry all the time, only decreasing their bladder motive. They also don't run for some water to swim at instantly and wait for themselves to faint.
And also if you bought Mermadic Kelp for 25000 Lifetime Happiness points and left your troublesome mermaid without the salty water for only 2 days, it will turn 'human' again. Buying some 'Permanent Mermaid' award for another 5000 points? You'll never gonna be 'human' ever again.
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* ''Seasons'' continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has a MostAnnoyingSound to go with the hottie's attraction towards your Sim. Said mechanic also adds the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the unbalanced romantic reputation system, and your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tend to come in unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.

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* ''Seasons'' continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has a MostAnnoyingSound to go with the hottie's attraction towards your Sim.system. Said mechanic also adds the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the unbalanced romantic reputation system, and your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tend to come in unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.
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* Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households. A frighteningly-common scenario is that you're highly invested in the Newbie family, go play with the Goths for a day or two, and progression has caused the Newbies to [[PermanentlyMissableContent move out entirely]].

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* Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households. A frighteningly-common scenario is that you're highly invested in the Newbie family, go play with the Goths for a day or two, and progression has caused the Newbies to [[PermanentlyMissableContent move out entirely]].entirely.

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* If you have a pet bowl Sims will autonomously refill it, sometimes even when it's not completely empty. This is extremely annoying if you want to give your pets gourmet food since Sims will always fill it with the bog standard food, even if they have the gourmet food in their own inventory.



* Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.

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* Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing practising acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.
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* In ''University Life'', EA somehow decided it was a good idea to add a University Mascot (i.e. some idiot dressed as a llama) to spawn whenever you start a new game. The mascot will stay on your lot for hours on end, even if you completely ignore him/her, as you cannot ask them to leave like you can with other Sims. The mascot also spawns if you travel to another subworld (i.e. ''go to University, the place he/she is promoting in the first place'') and come back home. Naturally, there have been mods created to prevent the mascot from spawning.

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* In ''University Life'', EA somehow decided it was a good idea to add a University Mascot (i.e. (AKA some idiot dressed as a llama) to spawn whenever you start a new game. The mascot will stay on your lot for hours on end, even if you completely ignore him/her, as you cannot ask them to leave like you can with other Sims. The mascot also spawns if you travel to another subworld (i.e. ''go to University, the place he/she is promoting in the first place'') and come back home. Naturally, there have been mods created to prevent the mascot from spawning.
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* In ''University Life'', EA somehow decided it was a good idea to add a University Mascot (i.e. some idiot dressed as a llama) to spawn whenever you start a new game. The mascot will stay on your lot for hours on end, even if you completely ignore him/her, as you cannot ask them to leave like you can with other Sims. The mascot also spawns if you travel to another subworld (i.e. ''go to University, the place he/she is promoting in the first place'') and come back home. Naturally, there have been mods created to prevent the mascot from spawning.

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* The "room" meter almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''; since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).



* The "room" meter almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''; since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
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* Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.

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* Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.
households. A frighteningly-common scenario is that you're highly invested in the Newbie family, go play with the Goths for a day or two, and progression has caused the Newbies to [[PermanentlyMissableContent move out entirely]].
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* Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.

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* Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.building.
* The random holidays from ''Seasons''. The calender shows what happens in the next 7 days, and the permanent holidays for each season are always visible. The random holidays only pop up if they are within those next 7 days, and some of them are annoying. Neighborhood Brawl has every Sim taken over by a brainbug that causes them to Fight any Sim of their same age-group they interact with on that day. Fortunately, the player can stop the holiday from occuring before its day or choose to End Holiday Early.
* Whims being clogged up by wants of buying certain items. Owning a pool, buying a Bee Box, Thermostat, or Umbrella Stand (Seasons), keep popping up. Even if the player buys the item in question, but places it in the Household Inventory because they may not want to have it in the house, the Whim to buy that very same item will pop up again.

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* ''VideoGame/TheSims1''
** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personality, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.
** Doubling as [[TheScrappy The Scrappies]], the street musicians introduced in ''Unleashed'' (W. C. Friendly and Giuseppi Renni — the former appears on community lots with an espresso bar, the latter on ones without), due to their habit of blocking doors and stairs while performing and taking their sweet time to perform before moving out of the way, which often causes Sims who were about to leave the lot to have their motives severely depleted by the time they manage to go home, at least if the player doesn't just quit to neighborhood in frustration first.
** When a sim is on level 10 of his career, they will, sooner or later, quit that job out of nowhere to pick up a middle-rank job in another career. While the game at least provides a plausible explanation via dialog box, it still makes the huge effort put into leveling up all for naught and the salary cut (anywhere from a few §100 to over §1,000!) can severely destabilize the game. As a result, it can be tempting to [[DoWellButNotPerfect not bother with promotions past a certain level (depending on salary and chance cards)]]. To the rejoicing of many, this was done away with in future games, with the aging mechanic providing the life changes the "job switching" was probably meant to emulate.
* ''VideoGame/TheSims2''
** Starting from ''Free Time'', Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming ''The Sims 3'').
** "It's raining!" "It's hailing!" "It's snowing!" Yes, it's raining and hailing... how is it possible to get the "It's raining!" off of your task queue?
** Put a computer in the house and the Sims will always try and play on it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your Sims stand outside so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play on the computer.
** Put a stereo in, and you better get used to the music - because it's ''not'' turning off (unless you turn off Free Will in the options menu, so they won't try to turn the blasted thing on again).
** Pregnancy causes hunger and energy to deplete so quickly that failure to juggle both adequately is quite likely to prove fatal unless you micromanage like crazy. (Giving birth is 100% safe in the Sims' world, but pregnancy cravings can be a literal killer.) Gets even worse with ''Nightlife'' installed, as you'll often find yourself in the extremely frustrating position of watching your pregnant Sim starve to death after she ([[MisterSeahorse or he]]) falls asleep face-down in a plate of food. Luckily, the pregnancy mechanic was overhauled comprehensively in ''The Sims 3'' to prevent this from happening.
** Hope you enjoy the gesturing in Bon Voyage, because once you install it, that's all they'll do. Unless you get a mod.
** The Free Time expansion adds some cool new items and the hobby system into the game. The problem is, once you Sim gets some hobby enthusiasm, 90% of their wants will roll up to be hobby-related. Have a new baby? Trying to get up the career ladder? Making a best friend? No aspiration points from those, because your wants are all "talk about hobby," "read hobby page in the newspaper," "practice hobby," etc.
** The nannies are notorious for being incompetent to a dangerous degree (as in, "set the kitchen on fire by being too busy force-feeding a non-hungry baby to look after the TV dinner she's cooking for a toddler even though toddlers can't eat those" dangerous) and very glitchy (refusing to leave after being dismissed, getting stuck on the lot or even ''multiplying''), to the point they're seen as [[TheScrappy the scrappies]] of the NPC characters.
** If you hired a maid, and you have a dishwasher and an empty coffee cup sitting around anywhere in the house, the maid can get trapped in a loop trying when they put it away, [[{{Hammerspace}} pulling another coffee cup out of nowhere]], and then putting that in the dishwasher.
* ''VideoGame/TheSims3''
** The Memory System. It's a return of the Memory System of ''The Sims 2'' in which Sims get memories added to their book whenever something significant happens in their life. Instead, Sims get memories for almost everything they do. Went to buy something? Memory! Just unclogged a toilet? Memory! Passed by the library on your way to work? Memory! It doesn't help that you get an incredibly annoying pop-up saying that your Sim obtained a memory every time this happens. Fortunately the developers had a heart and allowed you to disable the pop-ups, but not the memories. But wait! [[FromBadToWorse It gets better!]] Inactive Sims also gain memories. And memories take up space in your save file. If you've noticed that your game is loading/saving slower than usual after installing ''Generations'', it's probably the game trying to process all of your memories. It's not surprising that within a week or so of this new system, [[GameMod mods]] immediately popped up to stop the memories. With the ''Seasons'' patch, they finally allowed disabling memories.
** The Romantic Reputation system, which causes spouses to declare Sims a cheater simply for ''interacting with another Sim''. It gets quite juvenile in some situations. For example, did a Flirty Sim decide to bat an eye to your Sim? Your Sim's spouse will then call you a cheater and proceed to reject all social interactions with you and even [[DisproportionateRetribution break up with you]] afterwards.
** Then there are celebrities and vampires, which quickly become an uncontrollable plague. Thankfully, ''Supernatural'' and its accompanying patch give you the option to prevent them from spawning.
** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your Sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the affected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your Sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the "legitimate" scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.
** There's also the Ice-Cream truck introduced in Pets, which will frequently park in front of your home lot and stay there for hours like a stalker. Also the Paparazzi from Late Night, though they won't bother you unless you're a celebrity.
** The "room" meter almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''; since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
** ''Supernatural'' adds zombies which never stop coming and constantly attack your furniture. It is pretty much impossible to have a garden without freezing the lunar cycle (the closest option you have to turning it off entirely.) A simple trick to safely garden is to build a perimeter or fence, then add a fence door. Left-click the fence door, left-click to "Lock...", and choose "Everyone but me" or "Everyone but my household."
** ''Seasons'' continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has a MostAnnoyingSound to go with the hottie's attraction towards your Sim. Said mechanic also adds the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the unbalanced romantic reputation system, and your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tend to come in unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.
** The mechanic whereupon a new neighborhood is automatically populated with expansion and patch content buildings (Showtime venues, consignment stores, etc) when created. These new buildings occupy empty lots, seldom (if ever) match the neighborhood theme and are often placed haphazardly, either facing away from the street or smack dab in the middle of a large lot. This can leave a simmer spending several minutes after loading a new neighborhood rooting out, deleting and then repurposing the resulting empty lots so their towns don't look ridiculous. ''There is no way to turn this feature off'', unlike methods to circumvent other scrappy mechanics.
** The babysitter. ''Good lord.'' Picture this; your sim is a single parent with a baby and has to go to work to earn money, so naturally you call for a babysitter. The babysitter will be there for a while, but then a pop-up will suddenly appear where she says that she needs to go because she has another client, '''in the middle of your working hours!'' Not wanting to have the child taken away by the social worker, you have to get home as fast as you can to take care of your child, interrupting your work day and earning less cash! To make matters worse, the babysitter might even have done nothing but stare at the baby for the short time s/he was there, thus also leaving your baby with a terrible mood by the time your sim makes it home. Being a single parent (or two working parents) makes it incredibly hard to NOT lose your baby to the social worker...
** ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids being taken away by the social worker.

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!!''VideoGame/TheSims1''
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If you make your Sims very Neat in their personality, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.
** * Doubling as [[TheScrappy The Scrappies]], the street musicians introduced in ''Unleashed'' (W. C. Friendly and Giuseppi Renni — the former appears on community lots with an espresso bar, the latter on ones without), due to their habit of blocking doors and stairs while performing and taking their sweet time to perform before moving out of the way, which often causes Sims who were about to leave the lot to have their motives severely depleted by the time they manage to go home, at least if the player doesn't just quit to neighborhood in frustration first.
** * A feature introduced in ''Unleashed'' allowed for puddles to spread under objects where Sims cannot clean them, forcing the player to go into Buy mode and move away the obstructing objects. The feature proved annoying enough that it was DummiedOut in a patch shortly after.
* Another change brought by ''Unleashed'' was adult female Sims walking with a less elegant and more slouched posture than before, which was nicknamed the "Gorilla Walk" by the community. A third party fix was made to correct this, although the change was supposedly reverted by Maxis themselves in ''Makin' Magic''.
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When a sim Sim is on level 10 of his career, they will, sooner or later, quit that job out of nowhere to pick up a middle-rank job in another career. While the game at least provides a plausible explanation via dialog box, it still makes the huge effort put into leveling up all for naught and the salary cut (anywhere from a few §100 to over §1,000!) can severely destabilize the game. As a result, it can be tempting to [[DoWellButNotPerfect not bother with promotions past a certain level (depending on salary and chance cards)]]. To the rejoicing of many, this was done away with in future games, with the aging mechanic providing the life changes the "job switching" was probably meant to emulate.
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!!''VideoGame/TheSims2''
* ''VideoGame/TheSims2''
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Starting from ''Free Time'', Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming ''The Sims 3'').
** * "It's raining!" "It's hailing!" "It's snowing!" Yes, it's raining and hailing... how is it possible to get the "It's raining!" off of your task queue?
** * Put a computer in the house and the Sims will always try and play on it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your Sims stand outside so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play on the computer.
** * Put a stereo in, and you better get used to the music - because it's ''not'' turning off (unless you turn off Free Will in the options menu, so they won't try to turn the blasted thing on again).
** * Pregnancy causes hunger and energy to deplete so quickly that failure to juggle both adequately is quite likely to prove fatal unless you micromanage like crazy. (Giving birth is 100% safe in the Sims' world, but pregnancy cravings can be a literal killer.) Gets even worse with ''Nightlife'' installed, as you'll often find yourself in the extremely frustrating position of watching your pregnant Sim starve to death after she ([[MisterSeahorse or he]]) falls asleep face-down in a plate of food. Luckily, the pregnancy mechanic was overhauled comprehensively in ''The Sims 3'' to prevent this from happening.
** * Hope you enjoy the gesturing in Bon Voyage, because once you install it, that's all they'll do. Unless you get a mod.
** * The Free Time expansion adds some cool new items and the hobby system into the game. The problem is, once you Sim gets some hobby enthusiasm, 90% of their wants will roll up to be hobby-related. Have a new baby? Trying to get up the career ladder? Making a best friend? No aspiration points from those, because your wants are all "talk about hobby," "read hobby page in the newspaper," "practice hobby," etc.
** * The nannies are notorious for being incompetent to a dangerous degree (as in, "set the kitchen on fire by being too busy force-feeding a non-hungry baby to look after the TV dinner she's cooking for a toddler even though toddlers can't eat those" dangerous) and very glitchy (refusing to leave after being dismissed, getting stuck on the lot or even ''multiplying''), to the point they're seen as [[TheScrappy the scrappies]] of the NPC characters.
** * If you hired a maid, and you have a dishwasher and an empty coffee cup sitting around anywhere in the house, the maid can get trapped in a loop trying when they put it away, [[{{Hammerspace}} pulling another coffee cup out of nowhere]], and then putting that in the dishwasher.
dishwasher.

!!''VideoGame/TheSims3''
* ''VideoGame/TheSims3''
**
The Memory System. It's a return of the Memory System of ''The Sims 2'' in which Sims get memories added to their book whenever something significant happens in their life. Instead, Sims get memories for almost everything they do. Went to buy something? Memory! Just unclogged a toilet? Memory! Passed by the library on your way to work? Memory! It doesn't help that you get an incredibly annoying pop-up saying that your Sim obtained a memory every time this happens. Fortunately the developers had a heart and allowed you to disable the pop-ups, but not the memories. But wait! [[FromBadToWorse It gets better!]] Inactive Sims also gain memories. And memories take up space in your save file. If you've noticed that your game is loading/saving slower than usual after installing ''Generations'', it's probably the game trying to process all of your memories. It's not surprising that within a week or so of this new system, [[GameMod mods]] immediately popped up to stop the memories. With the ''Seasons'' patch, they finally allowed disabling memories.
** * The Romantic Reputation system, which causes spouses to declare Sims a cheater simply for ''interacting with another Sim''. It gets quite juvenile in some situations. For example, did a Flirty Sim decide to bat an eye to your Sim? Your Sim's spouse will then call you a cheater and proceed to reject all social interactions with you and even [[DisproportionateRetribution break up with you]] afterwards.
** * Then there are celebrities and vampires, which quickly become an uncontrollable plague. Thankfully, ''Supernatural'' and its accompanying patch give you the option to prevent them from spawning.
** * By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your Sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the affected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your Sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the "legitimate" scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.
** * There's also the Ice-Cream ice cream truck introduced in Pets, which will frequently park in front of your home lot and stay there for hours like a stalker. Also the Paparazzi from Late Night, though they won't bother you unless you're a celebrity.
** * The "room" meter almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''; since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
** * ''Supernatural'' adds zombies which never stop coming and constantly attack your furniture. It is pretty much impossible to have a garden without freezing the lunar cycle (the closest option you have to turning it off entirely.) A simple trick to safely garden is to build a perimeter or fence, then add a fence door. Left-click the fence door, left-click to "Lock...", and choose "Everyone but me" or "Everyone but my household."
** * ''Seasons'' continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has a MostAnnoyingSound to go with the hottie's attraction towards your Sim. Said mechanic also adds the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the unbalanced romantic reputation system, and your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tend to come in unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.
** * The mechanic whereupon a new neighborhood is automatically populated with expansion and patch content buildings (Showtime venues, consignment stores, etc) when created. These new buildings occupy empty lots, seldom (if ever) match the neighborhood theme and are often placed haphazardly, either facing away from the street or smack dab in the middle of a large lot. This can leave a simmer spending several minutes after loading a new neighborhood rooting out, deleting and then repurposing the resulting empty lots so their towns don't look ridiculous. ''There is no way to turn this feature off'', unlike methods to circumvent other scrappy mechanics.
** * The babysitter. ''Good lord.'' Picture this; your sim is a single parent with a baby and has to go to work to earn money, so naturally you call for a babysitter. The babysitter will be there for a while, but then a pop-up will suddenly appear where she says that she needs to go because she has another client, '''in the middle of your working hours!'' Not wanting to have the child taken away by the social worker, you have to get home as fast as you can to take care of your child, interrupting your work day and earning less cash! To make matters worse, the babysitter might even have done nothing but stare at the baby for the short time s/he was there, thus also leaving your baby with a terrible mood by the time your sim makes it home. Being a single parent (or two working parents) makes it incredibly hard to NOT lose your baby to the social worker...
** * ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids being taken away by the social worker.



** Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.
* ''VideoGame/TheSims4''
** Unlike past games, you can't buy birthday cakes, and instead must make them on your own. While it's fun for story-based players, it can be an annoying and time-wasting inconvenience for others.
** In contrast, an update fixed things so that Social Services no longer provides free bassinets, and you have to buy your own, even if your Sim is in labor and you still don't have one.
** Some lot traits can be a real pain, especially if they are fixed and can't be removed. Have fun keeping your Sims happy in a place infested with rats and power outages.
** Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.

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** * Story Progression can cause problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.
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* ''VideoGame/TheSims4''
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Unlike past games, you can't buy birthday cakes, and instead must make them on your own. While it's fun for story-based players, it can be an annoying and time-wasting inconvenience for others.
** * In contrast, an update fixed things so that Social Services no longer provides free bassinets, and you have to buy your own, even if your Sim is in labor and you still don't have one.
** * Some lot traits can be a real pain, especially if they are fixed and can't be removed. Have fun keeping your Sims happy in a place infested with rats and power outages.
** * Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.
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** Put a computer in the house and the sims will always try and play on it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your sims stand outside so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play on the computer.

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** Put a computer in the house and the sims Sims will always try and play on it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your sims Sims stand outside so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play on the computer.



** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the affected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the "legitimate" scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.

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** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your sims Sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the affected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your sims Sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the "legitimate" scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.



** Some lot traits can be a real pain, especially if they are fixed and can't be removed. Have fun keeping your sims happy in a place infested with rats and power outages.
** Apartments themselves. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.

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** Some lot traits can be a real pain, especially if they are fixed and can't be removed. Have fun keeping your sims Sims happy in a place infested with rats and power outages.
** Apartments themselves.Apartments. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.
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** Unlike past games, you can't buy birthday cakes, and instead must make them on your own. While it's fun for story-based players, it can be an annoying and time-wasting inconvenience for others.

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** Unlike past games, you can't buy birthday cakes, and instead must make them on your own. While it's fun for story-based players, it can be an annoying and time-wasting inconvenience for others.others.
** In contrast, an update fixed things so that Social Services no longer provides free bassinets, and you have to buy your own, even if your Sim is in labor and you still don't have one.
** Some lot traits can be a real pain, especially if they are fixed and can't be removed. Have fun keeping your sims happy in a place infested with rats and power outages.
** Apartments themselves. For some, a large portion of the appeal of this franchise is to simulate living a life better than our own. Cramped quarters, extremely close proximity to irksome neighbors, and the distinct inability to have a private yard are all reasons people move into houses, anyway. For most, the apartment neighbors are the worst quality; it makes it more realistic, but it is still a pain in the ass to live peacefully when your neighbors either make constant noise or are chewing you out for comparatively minor things like practicing acoustic guitar in the opposite side of the building.
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** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personalty, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.

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** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personalty, personality, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.
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** ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]].

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** ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. Worst still, not going to school will result in the kids being taken away by the social worker.
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** When a sim is on level 10 of his career, they will, sooner or later, quit that job out of nowhere to pick up a middle-rank job in another career. While the game at least provides a plausible explanation via dialog box, it still makes the huge effort put into leveling up all for naught and the salary cut (anywhere from a few §100 to over §1,000!) can severely destabilize the game. As a result, it can be tempting to [[DoWellButNotPerfect not bother with promotions past a certain level (depending on salary and chance cards)]]. To the rejoicing of many, this was done away with in future games, with the aging mechanic providing the life changes the "job switching" was probably meant to emulate.
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** If you hired a maid, and you have a dishwasher and an empty coffee cup sitting around anywhere in the house, the maid can get trapped in a loop trying when they put it away, [[{{Hammerspace}} pulling another coffee cup out of nowhere]], and then putting that in the dishwasher.

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** Doubling as [[TheScrappy The Scrappies]], the street musicians introduced in Unleashed (W. C. Friendly and Giuseppi Renni — the former appears on community lots with an espresso bar, the latter on ones without), due to their habit of blocking doors and stairs while performing and taking their sweet time to perform before moving out of the way, which often causes Sims who were about to leave the lot to have their motives severely depleted by the time they manage to go home, at least if the player doesn't just quit to neighborhood in frustration first.

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** Doubling as [[TheScrappy The Scrappies]], the street musicians introduced in Unleashed ''Unleashed'' (W. C. Friendly and Giuseppi Renni — the former appears on community lots with an espresso bar, the latter on ones without), due to their habit of blocking doors and stairs while performing and taking their sweet time to perform before moving out of the way, which often causes Sims who were about to leave the lot to have their motives severely depleted by the time they manage to go home, at least if the player doesn't just quit to neighborhood in frustration first.



** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming ''The Sims 3'').

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** Starting from Free Time, ''Free Time'', Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming ''The Sims 3'').



** Put a computer in the house and the sims will always try and play it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your sims stand out so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play the computer.

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** Put a computer in the house and the sims will always try and play on it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your sims stand out outside so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play on the computer.



** Pregnancy causes hunger and energy to deplete at such an acceleration that failure to juggle both adequately is quite likely to prove fatal unless you micromanage like crazy. (Giving birth is 100% safe in the Sims' world, but pregnancy cravings can be a literal killer.) Gets even worse with ''Nightlife'' installed, as you'll often find yourself in the extremely frustrating position of watching your pregnant Sim starve to death after she ([[MisterSeahorse or he]]) falls asleep face-down in a plate of food. Luckily, the pregnancy mechanic was overhauled comprehensively in ''The Sims 3'' to prevent this from happening.
** Hope you enjoy the gesturing in Bon Voyage because once you install it, that's all they'll do. Unless you get a mod.

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** Pregnancy causes hunger and energy to deplete at such an acceleration so quickly that failure to juggle both adequately is quite likely to prove fatal unless you micromanage like crazy. (Giving birth is 100% safe in the Sims' world, but pregnancy cravings can be a literal killer.) Gets even worse with ''Nightlife'' installed, as you'll often find yourself in the extremely frustrating position of watching your pregnant Sim starve to death after she ([[MisterSeahorse or he]]) falls asleep face-down in a plate of food. Luckily, the pregnancy mechanic was overhauled comprehensively in ''The Sims 3'' to prevent this from happening.
** Hope you enjoy the gesturing in Bon Voyage Voyage, because once you install it, that's all they'll do. Unless you get a mod.



** The nannies are notorious for being incompetent to a dangerous degree (as in, "set the kitchen on fire by being too busy force-feeding a non-hungry baby to look after the TV dinner she's cooking for a toddler even though toddlers can't eat those" dangerous) and very glitchy (refusing to leave after being dismissed, getting stuck on the lot or even ''[[NightmareFuel multiplying]]''), to the point they're seen as [[TheScrappy the scrappies]] of the NPC characters.

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** The nannies are notorious for being incompetent to a dangerous degree (as in, "set the kitchen on fire by being too busy force-feeding a non-hungry baby to look after the TV dinner she's cooking for a toddler even though toddlers can't eat those" dangerous) and very glitchy (refusing to leave after being dismissed, getting stuck on the lot or even ''[[NightmareFuel multiplying]]''), ''multiplying''), to the point they're seen as [[TheScrappy the scrappies]] of the NPC characters.



** The Memory System. It was a return of the Memory System of ''The Sims 2'' in which Sims would get memories added to their book whenever something significant happens in their life. Instead, Sims would get memories for almost everything they do. Went to buy something? Memory! Just unclogged a toilet? Memory! Passed by the library on your way to work? Memory! It doesn't help that you get an incredibly annoying pop-up saying that your Sim obtained a memory every time this happens. Fortunately the developers had a heart and allowed you to disable the pop-ups, but not the memories. But wait! [[FromBadToWorse It gets better!]] Inactive Sims also gain memories. And memories take up space in your save file. If you've noticed that your game is loading/saving slower than usual after installing Generations, it's probably the game trying to process all of your memories. It's not surprising that within a week or so of this new system, [[GameMod mods]] immediately popped up to stop the memories. With the Seasons patch, they finally allowed disabling memories.

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** The Memory System. It was It's a return of the Memory System of ''The Sims 2'' in which Sims would get memories added to their book whenever something significant happens in their life. Instead, Sims would get memories for almost everything they do. Went to buy something? Memory! Just unclogged a toilet? Memory! Passed by the library on your way to work? Memory! It doesn't help that you get an incredibly annoying pop-up saying that your Sim obtained a memory every time this happens. Fortunately the developers had a heart and allowed you to disable the pop-ups, but not the memories. But wait! [[FromBadToWorse It gets better!]] Inactive Sims also gain memories. And memories take up space in your save file. If you've noticed that your game is loading/saving slower than usual after installing Generations, ''Generations'', it's probably the game trying to process all of your memories. It's not surprising that within a week or so of this new system, [[GameMod mods]] immediately popped up to stop the memories. With the Seasons ''Seasons'' patch, they finally allowed disabling memories.



** Then there are celebrities and vampires, which quickly becomes an uncontrollable plague. Thankfully, ''Supernatural'' and its accompanying patch give you the option to prevent them from spawning.
** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the effected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the 'legitimate' scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.
** There's also the Ice-Cream truck introduced in Pets, who will frequently park in front of your home lot and stay there for hours like a stalker. Also the Paparazzi from Late Night, though they won't bother you unless you're a celebrity.
** The "room" meter. Almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''. Since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
** Supernatural added zombies which never stop coming and constantly attack your furniture. It is pretty much impossible to have a garden now without freezing the lunar cycle (the closest option you have to turning it off entirely.) A simple trick to safely garden is to build a perimeter or fence, then add a fence door. Left-click the fence door, left-click to "Lock...", and choose "Everyone but me" or "Everyone but my household."
** Seasons continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has TheMostAnnoyingSound to go with the hotties attraction towards your Sim.
*** Said mechanic also added the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the above, unbalanced romantic reputation system, your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tended to reach unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.
** The mechanic whereupon a new neighborhood is automatically populated with expansion and patch content buildings (Showtime venues, consignment stores, etc) when created. These new buildings occupy empty lots, seldom (if ever) match the neighborhood theme and are often placed haphazardly by either facing away from the street or smack dab in the middle of a large lot. This can leave a simmer spending several minutes after loading a new neighborhood rooting out, deleting and then repurposing the resulting empty lots so their towns don't look ridiculous. ''There is no way to turn this feature off'', unlike methods to circumvent other scrappy mechanics.
** The babysitter. ''Good Lord!''. Picture this; your sim is a stand-alone parent with a baby and has to go to work to earn money, so naturally you call for a babysitter. The babysitter will be there for a while, but then a pop-up will suddenly appear where she says that she needs to go because she has another client, '''in the middle of your working hours!'' Not wanting to have the child taken away by the social worker, you have to get home as fast as you can to take care of your child, interrupting your work day and earning lesser cash!
*** To make matters worse, the babysitter might even have done nothing but stare at the baby for the short time she/he was there, thus also leaving your baby with a terrible mood by the time your sim makes it home. Being a single parent (or two working parents) makes it incredibly hard to NOT lose your baby to the social worker...
** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]].
** Also in Generations, teens cannot drive unless being taught by an adult in the household (before, the teen was automatically able to drive, even right after aging up from being a child). This can be annoying, as sometimes the teen and/or adult will not follow the other to the car, thus rendering the entire situation completely pointless.
** Story Progression can cause these problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.

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** Then there are celebrities and vampires, which quickly becomes become an uncontrollable plague. Thankfully, ''Supernatural'' and its accompanying patch give you the option to prevent them from spawning.
** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the effected affected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the 'legitimate' "legitimate" scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.
** There's also the Ice-Cream truck introduced in Pets, who which will frequently park in front of your home lot and stay there for hours like a stalker. Also the Paparazzi from Late Night, though they won't bother you unless you're a celebrity.
** The "room" meter. Almost meter almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''. Since 4''; since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
** Supernatural added ''Supernatural'' adds zombies which never stop coming and constantly attack your furniture. It is pretty much impossible to have a garden now without freezing the lunar cycle (the closest option you have to turning it off entirely.) A simple trick to safely garden is to build a perimeter or fence, then add a fence door. Left-click the fence door, left-click to "Lock...", and choose "Everyone but me" or "Everyone but my household."
** Seasons ''Seasons'' continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has TheMostAnnoyingSound a MostAnnoyingSound to go with the hotties hottie's attraction towards your Sim.
***
Sim. Said mechanic also added adds the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the above, unbalanced romantic reputation system, and your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tended tend to reach come in unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.
** The mechanic whereupon a new neighborhood is automatically populated with expansion and patch content buildings (Showtime venues, consignment stores, etc) when created. These new buildings occupy empty lots, seldom (if ever) match the neighborhood theme and are often placed haphazardly by haphazardly, either facing away from the street or smack dab in the middle of a large lot. This can leave a simmer spending several minutes after loading a new neighborhood rooting out, deleting and then repurposing the resulting empty lots so their towns don't look ridiculous. ''There is no way to turn this feature off'', unlike methods to circumvent other scrappy mechanics.
** The babysitter. ''Good Lord!''. lord.'' Picture this; your sim is a stand-alone single parent with a baby and has to go to work to earn money, so naturally you call for a babysitter. The babysitter will be there for a while, but then a pop-up will suddenly appear where she says that she needs to go because she has another client, '''in the middle of your working hours!'' Not wanting to have the child taken away by the social worker, you have to get home as fast as you can to take care of your child, interrupting your work day and earning lesser cash!
***
less cash! To make matters worse, the babysitter might even have done nothing but stare at the baby for the short time she/he s/he was there, thus also leaving your baby with a terrible mood by the time your sim makes it home. Being a single parent (or two working parents) makes it incredibly hard to NOT lose your baby to the social worker...
** Generations ''Generations'' gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]].
** Also in Generations, ''Generations'', teens cannot drive unless being taught by an adult in the household (before, the teen was automatically able to drive, even right after aging up from being a child). This can be annoying, as sometimes the teen and/or adult will not follow the other to the car, thus rendering the entire situation completely pointless.
** Story Progression can cause these problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However However, this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.

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* ''VideoGame/TheSims1''
** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personalty, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.
** Doubling as [[TheScrappy The Scrappies]], the street musicians introduced in Unleashed (W. C. Friendly and Giuseppi Renni — the former appears on community lots with an espresso bar, the latter on ones without), due to their habit of blocking doors and stairs while performing and taking their sweet time to perform before moving out of the way, which often causes Sims who were about to leave the lot to have their motives severely depleted by the time they manage to go home, at least if the player doesn't just quit to neighborhood in frustration first.



** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personalty, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.






** Story Progression can cause these problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.

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** Story Progression can cause these problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.households.
* ''VideoGame/TheSims4''
** Unlike past games, you can't buy birthday cakes, and instead must make them on your own. While it's fun for story-based players, it can be an annoying and time-wasting inconvenience for others.
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** Also in Generations, teens cannot drive unless being taught by an adult in the household (before, the teen was automatically able to drive, even right after aging up from being a child). This can be annoying, as sometimes the teen and/or adult will not follow the other to the car, thus rendering the entire situation completely pointless.
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** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]].

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** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]].school]].
** Story Progression can cause these problems. The idea behind story progression is that when you are not playing a family, they will continue to progress (i.e. go to work, get jobs, etc.). However this can mess up a lot of things. Sims can get in relationships, get married and break up, among other things. Story progression has even been known to cause babies to disappear from NPC households.

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*** Said mechanic also added the submechanic of your Sim receiving love letters and gifts from other Sims in their mail or calling them on dates. Couple that with the above, unbalanced romantic reputation system, your actually faithful Sim can still be considered cheating. The gifts and letters also tended to reach unnecessarily large numbers. There are mods that completely disable this.



** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. %%If they do get to school,%%

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** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. %%If they do get to school,%%
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** The nannies are notorious for being incompetent to a dangerous degree (as in, "set the kitchen on fire by being too busy force-feeding a non-hungry baby to look after the TV dinner she's cooking for a toddler even though toddlers can't eat those" dangerous) and very glitchy (refusing to leave after being dismissed, getting stuck on the lot or even ''[[NightmareFuel multiplying]]''), to the point they're seen as [[TheScrappy the scrappies]] of the NPC characters.
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** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming The Sims 3).

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** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming The ''The Sims 3).3'').
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** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios.

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** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios. Some are also annoyed by the ProductPlacement aspect of it (the computer includes a copy of the then-upcoming The Sims 3).
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** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. If they do get to school,

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** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. If %%If they do get to school,school,%%
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*''VideoGame/TheSims2''
** Starting from Free Time, Mr. Humble will give you a new computer. Always nice - but he does this for ''every family'' you create. Needless to say, mods were instantly created to disable this since the very high end computer messes up "rags to riches" scenarios.
** "It's raining!" "It's hailing!" "It's snowing!" Yes, it's raining and hailing... how is it possible to get the "It's raining!" off of your task queue?
** Put a computer in the house and the sims will always try and play it unless you have free will off. This gets ''very'' annoying when you try to make your sims stand out so they don't miss the school bus or the carpool... and they decide to go play the computer.
** Put a stereo in, and you better get used to the music - because it's ''not'' turning off (unless you turn off Free Will in the options menu, so they won't try to turn the blasted thing on again).
** If you make your Sims very Neat in their personalty, they will always make their bed when they wake up and you can't stop them once they have started.
** Pregnancy causes hunger and energy to deplete at such an acceleration that failure to juggle both adequately is quite likely to prove fatal unless you micromanage like crazy. (Giving birth is 100% safe in the Sims' world, but pregnancy cravings can be a literal killer.) Gets even worse with ''Nightlife'' installed, as you'll often find yourself in the extremely frustrating position of watching your pregnant Sim starve to death after she ([[MisterSeahorse or he]]) falls asleep face-down in a plate of food. Luckily, the pregnancy mechanic was overhauled comprehensively in ''The Sims 3'' to prevent this from happening.
** Hope you enjoy the gesturing in Bon Voyage because once you install it, that's all they'll do. Unless you get a mod.
** The Free Time expansion adds some cool new items and the hobby system into the game. The problem is, once you Sim gets some hobby enthusiasm, 90% of their wants will roll up to be hobby-related. Have a new baby? Trying to get up the career ladder? Making a best friend? No aspiration points from those, because your wants are all "talk about hobby," "read hobby page in the newspaper," "practice hobby," etc.
* ''VideoGame/TheSims3''

** The Memory System. It was a return of the Memory System of ''The Sims 2'' in which Sims would get memories added to their book whenever something significant happens in their life. Instead, Sims would get memories for almost everything they do. Went to buy something? Memory! Just unclogged a toilet? Memory! Passed by the library on your way to work? Memory! It doesn't help that you get an incredibly annoying pop-up saying that your Sim obtained a memory every time this happens. Fortunately the developers had a heart and allowed you to disable the pop-ups, but not the memories. But wait! [[FromBadToWorse It gets better!]] Inactive Sims also gain memories. And memories take up space in your save file. If you've noticed that your game is loading/saving slower than usual after installing Generations, it's probably the game trying to process all of your memories. It's not surprising that within a week or so of this new system, [[GameMod mods]] immediately popped up to stop the memories. With the Seasons patch, they finally allowed disabling memories.
** The Romantic Reputation system, which causes spouses to declare Sims a cheater simply for ''interacting with another Sim''. It gets quite juvenile in some situations. For example, did a Flirty Sim decide to bat an eye to your Sim? Your Sim's spouse will then call you a cheater and proceed to reject all social interactions with you and even [[DisproportionateRetribution break up with you]] afterwards.
** Then there are celebrities and vampires, which quickly becomes an uncontrollable plague. Thankfully, ''Supernatural'' and its accompanying patch give you the option to prevent them from spawning.
** By becoming a celebrity, even by accident, ''even with the celebrity spawning turned off'', your sims are potentially subject to scandals that give them a negative moodlet. Oh, and they also damage their relationship with every sim the effected sim is acquainted with regardless of the absurdity of the claim. This can often lead to half the town hating your sims for no real reason. You can offset the loss by personally interacting with ''[[ContinuingIsPainful each individual sim]]'' to assuage the rumors, and to [[RandomNumberGod sue for slander]]. This is exacerbated by the fact that some of the 'legitimate' scandal types [[FridgeLogic make no contextual sense]]; for example, Woohooing with a member of "the Occult" ([[HollywoodSatanism i.e. any kind of supernatural being]]) will shame you in the public eye even if half the population have some kind of supernatural affliction or another, or if your Sim is one themselves, or if both your Sim and their partner are.
** There's also the Ice-Cream truck introduced in Pets, who will frequently park in front of your home lot and stay there for hours like a stalker. Also the Paparazzi from Late Night, though they won't bother you unless you're a celebrity.
** The "room" meter. Almost always keeps the Sims away from obtaining a perfect mood, and even in a very well-designed house, they still have it half-red. Thankfully abolished in ''Sims 4''. Since "moodlettes" co-exist and are not mutually exclusive, a house in disrepair will contribute to discomfort moodlettes, but it's no longer a ''need'' to have a spacious house (and you can get positive moodlettes for environment through decorating rather than trying to expand).
** Supernatural added zombies which never stop coming and constantly attack your furniture. It is pretty much impossible to have a garden now without freezing the lunar cycle (the closest option you have to turning it off entirely.) A simple trick to safely garden is to build a perimeter or fence, then add a fence door. Left-click the fence door, left-click to "Lock...", and choose "Everyone but me" or "Everyone but my household."
** Seasons continues the downward spiral of Scrappy Mechanics, with the attraction system which has TheMostAnnoyingSound to go with the hotties attraction towards your Sim.
** The mechanic whereupon a new neighborhood is automatically populated with expansion and patch content buildings (Showtime venues, consignment stores, etc) when created. These new buildings occupy empty lots, seldom (if ever) match the neighborhood theme and are often placed haphazardly by either facing away from the street or smack dab in the middle of a large lot. This can leave a simmer spending several minutes after loading a new neighborhood rooting out, deleting and then repurposing the resulting empty lots so their towns don't look ridiculous. ''There is no way to turn this feature off'', unlike methods to circumvent other scrappy mechanics.
** The babysitter. ''Good Lord!''. Picture this; your sim is a stand-alone parent with a baby and has to go to work to earn money, so naturally you call for a babysitter. The babysitter will be there for a while, but then a pop-up will suddenly appear where she says that she needs to go because she has another client, '''in the middle of your working hours!'' Not wanting to have the child taken away by the social worker, you have to get home as fast as you can to take care of your child, interrupting your work day and earning lesser cash!
*** To make matters worse, the babysitter might even have done nothing but stare at the baby for the short time she/he was there, thus also leaving your baby with a terrible mood by the time your sim makes it home. Being a single parent (or two working parents) makes it incredibly hard to NOT lose your baby to the social worker...
** Generations gives parents the ability to punish their children for poor behaviour. The problem is, this system is far too sensitive. [[DisproportionateRetribution A whoopee cushion can cause a child to be grounded for two days]]. When grounded, they are literally not allowed to leave the house under any circumstances, not even to go to school. It should be noted that skipping school also causes grounding. So your child is grounded, then their parent will not let them go to school, [[{{Hypocrite}} and then extend the grounding, since they skipped school]]. If they do get to school,

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