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These exapmles were never approved by the thread as far as I can see. Note characters that never had a proposal can stay here, so long as the thread approved them staying in the past. This is reasoning from the monster cleanup thread.
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* ''Manga/CandyCandy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=621#comment-15518 Eliza and Neil]] (although they were mean-spirited, they flunk the baseline heinous standard)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1876#comment-46880 Tomoo]] (vile, but too small potatoes compared to other characters)
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** False Water God (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy, and he doesn't breach the heinous standard even with those crimes)
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** Spandam (PlayedForLaughs too much and fails the series' high heinous standard)
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** Caribou (not treated seriously enough and demonstrates redeeming qualities in his mini-arc)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3477#comment-86916 Kingpin]] (has genuine standards against Bullseye's sadism)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3477#comment-86916 Kingpin]] (has (shows genuine standards against Bullseye's sadism)killing of multiple families)
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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'':
** Freeza (PlayedForLaughs, displays multiple PetTheDog moments, and too similar to his canon counterpart)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=130#comment-3243 Super Kami Guru]] (PlayedForLaughs and fails the heinous standard compared to Freeza, is also indicated to care for Slug)
** Freeza (PlayedForLaughs, displays multiple PetTheDog moments, and too similar to his canon counterpart)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=130#comment-3243 Super Kami Guru]] (PlayedForLaughs and fails the heinous standard compared to Freeza, is also indicated to care for Slug)
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* ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddysBigPictureShow'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=626#comment-15643 Eddy's brother]] (while his abuse of Eddy is played seriously, it is no worse than the AmusingInjuries suffered by the characters on a regular basis)
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** [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda First film]]: Tai Lung (essentially a TragicVillain, despite his destructive deeds)
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheMadDoctor'': Dr. XXX (isn't bad enough by Disney's standards)
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* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8562#comment-214036 The Goblin Lord]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
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* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8562#comment-214036 The Goblin Lord]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)MadeOfEvil)
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* UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}: Satan (too much OffstageVillainy and arguably MadeOfEvil)
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=632#comment-15793 Steve-arino]] (played for BlackComedy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=348#comment-8683 The Evil Hot Tub]] (PlayedForLaughs; many of his crimes are OffstageVillainy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=632#comment-15793 Steve-arino]] (played for BlackComedy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=348#comment-8683 The Evil Hot Tub]] (PlayedForLaughs; many of his crimes are OffstageVillainy)
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Trip Larsen (is genuinely mentally ill and has no recollection of his actions after an electric shock fixes his brain)
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* ''WesternAnimation/MegaManRubySpears'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1466#comment-36633 Dr. Wily]] (not treated seriously enough)
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* ''WesternAnimation/MightyMax'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10110#comment-252749 Spike]] (doesn't pass the baseline)
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* ''WesternAnimation/MightyMax'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10110#comment-252749 Spike]] (doesn't pass the heinous baseline)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=25#comment-606 Victor Falco/Rat King]] (shows genuine care towards one of his rats)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=25#comment-606 Victor Falco/Rat King]] (shows genuine care towards one of his rats)rats, Aristotle)
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=459#comment-11466 Kor Phaeron]] (is indicated to genuinely care about Lorgar and did not kill prophet Jepeth to save his own skin as the writeup stated)
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=459#comment-11466 Kor Phaeron]] (is indicated to genuinely care about Lorgar and did not kill prophet Jepeth to save his own skin as the writeup stated)Lorgar)
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*** Tambourine (not as heinous as his father King Piccolo)
** ''Anime/DragonBallZ'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=478#comment-11927 Dr. Gero]] (outheinoused by Babidi with similar resources, retroactively revealed to genuinely love his son)
*** Van Zant (not only does he fail the massive heinous standard of the franchise, but he also isn't any worse than the other human villains in the series)
* ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolyTheLegendarySuperSaiyan'': Broly (fails the heinous standard especially compared to his father, Paragus who mind-controlled the former into destroying an entire galaxy; loses most of his personality besides hating Kakarot by the second movie)
** ''Anime/DragonBallZ'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=478#comment-11927 Dr. Gero]] (outheinoused by Babidi with similar resources, retroactively revealed to genuinely love his son)
*** Van Zant (not only does he fail the massive heinous standard of the franchise, but he also isn't any worse than the other human villains in the series)
* ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolyTheLegendarySuperSaiyan'': Broly (fails the heinous standard especially compared to his father, Paragus who mind-controlled the former into destroying an entire galaxy; loses most of his personality besides hating Kakarot by the second movie)
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolyTheLegendarySuperSaiyan'': Broly (fails the heinous standard especially compared to his father, Paragus who mind-controlled the former into destroying an entire galaxy; loses most of his personality besides hating Kakarot by the second movie)
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* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9056#comment-226376 Envy]] (too small potatoes compared to the other villains and shares responsibility for his most heinous crime)
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* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9056#comment-226376 Envy]] (too small potatoes compared to the other villains and shares (shares responsibility for his most heinous crime)crime, failing the series' high heinous standard)
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** Spandam (not treated seriously enough for the series' high heinous standard)
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** Spandam (not treated seriously enough for (PlayedForLaughs too much and fails the series' high heinous standard)
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolyTheLegendarySuperSaiyan'': Broly (fails the heinous standard especially compared to his father, Paragus who mind-controlled the former into destroying an entire galaxy; loses most of his personality besides hating Kakarot by the second movie)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54621 Saint Charloss]] (vile, but his actions are standard fare for his group)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54621 Saint Charloss]] (vile, but his actions are standard fare for his group)(doesn't stand out compared to the other Celestial Dragons)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54621 Saint Charloss]] (doesn't stand out compared to the other Celestial Dragons)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54621 Saint Charloss]] (doesn't stand out compared to the other Celestial Dragons)(vile, but his actions are standard fare for his group)
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (her FreudianExcuse still holds up and she is implied to feel remorse for killing Rhodes)
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (her FreudianExcuse (FreudianExcuse still holds up and she is implied to feel remorse for killing Rhodes)
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'':
** Plankton (PlayedForLaughs too often and is subjected to too much [[TheChewToy undignified abuse]] to be a serious threat; genuinely cares for his wife Karen and has a number of sympathetic moments)
** Mr. Krabs (PlayedForLaughs too often; genuinely cares for his daughter and [=SpongeBob=] and has many heroic moments)
** Plankton (PlayedForLaughs too often and is subjected to too much [[TheChewToy undignified abuse]] to be a serious threat; genuinely cares for his wife Karen and has a number of sympathetic moments)
** Mr. Krabs (PlayedForLaughs too often; genuinely cares for his daughter and [=SpongeBob=] and has many heroic moments)
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* ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=328#comment-8185 Debbie]] (PlayedForLaughs)
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=93#comment-2320 Cousin Eddie]] (insufficiently heinous)
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* ''WesternAnimation/CourageTheCowardlyDog'':
** Benton Tarantella (his worst crime, killing 12 people, is offscreen)
** Mad Dog (he's a vicious domestic abuser with no redeeming qualities, but he fails to stack up against serial killers like Katz and Fusilli)
** The Cruel Veterinarian (fails baseline heinous standard)
** Benton Tarantella (his worst crime, killing 12 people, is offscreen)
** Mad Dog (he's a vicious domestic abuser with no redeeming qualities, but he fails to stack up against serial killers like Katz and Fusilli)
** The Cruel Veterinarian (fails baseline heinous standard)
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** Evil Stewie (played for BlackComedy; also possibly MadeOfEvil)
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** Carter Pewterschmidt (PlayedForLaughs too often, fails to exceed the standard set by the show's regular use of ComedicSociopathy, and displays redeeming qualities)
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=632#comment-15793 Steve-arino]] (played for BlackComedy)
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=632#comment-15793 Steve-arino]] (played forBlackComedy)BlackComedy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=348#comment-8683 The Evil Hot Tub]] (PlayedForLaughs; many of his crimes are OffstageVillainy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=632#comment-15793 Steve-arino]] (played for
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=348#comment-8683 The Evil Hot Tub]] (PlayedForLaughs; many of his crimes are OffstageVillainy)
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* Music/TenaciousD: Satan (PlayedForLaughs)
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* Music/TenaciousD: Satan [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=344#comment-8576 Satan]] (PlayedForLaughs)
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** The Night Owl (fails baseline heinous standard)
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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=345#comment-8620 The Night Owl Owl]] (fails baseline heinous standard)
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** ''VisualNovel/{{Echo}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=322#comment-8037 Echo Entity]] ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16651724710A26447000&page=145#comment-3614 formerly proposed by a ban evader]], probably MadeOfEvil)
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** ''VisualNovel/{{Echo}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=322#comment-8037 Echo Entity]] ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16651724710A26447000&page=145#comment-3614 formerly proposed by a ban evader]], probably MadeOfEvil)
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* ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=328#comment-8185 Debbie]] (PlayedForLaughs and a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds)
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* ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=328#comment-8185 Debbie]] (PlayedForLaughs and a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds)(PlayedForLaughs)
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* ''Film/AddamsFamilyValues'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=328#comment-8185 Debbie]] (PlayedForLaughs and a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds)
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* Various {{fanfic}}s (works were no longer accessible)
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (backstory is too horrific and is implied to be remorseful for killing Rhodes)
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (backstory is too horrific (her FreudianExcuse still holds up and she is implied to be remorseful feel remorse for killing Rhodes)
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The SCP Wiki's monster page is indexed under the Web Serial Novel page, so the entries should probably go under that folder. I Also expanded Cinder Fall's entry.
* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down to "horrible monsters doing horrible things")
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down to "horrible monsters doing horrible things")
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)
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* WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (backstory is too horrific)
* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down to "horrible monsters doing horrible things")
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)
* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down to "horrible monsters doing horrible things")
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)
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* WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (backstory is too horrific)
* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Pasthorrific and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil downimplied to "horrible monsters doing horrible things")
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)be remorseful for killing Rhodes)
* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality)
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* [[VideoGame/BlueArchive Beatrice, Decagrammaton]], [[VideoGame/GenshinImpact Kujou Takayuki, Nathan]], [[Anime/ShinobiNoIttoki Kido Minobe]], [[Series/Voice2 Yeom Ki-tae]], [[Series/{{Voice}} Hwang Kyung-il]], [[Anime/HighSchoolFleet The Pirate Leader]], The Entity (Catto Boi), [[WesternAnimation/WeBareBearsTheMovie Agent Trout]], Masayuki Kaneki (Voice 3), [[VideoGame/ArtifactsAndAntiquity Sekhmet]], [[Webcomic/{{Lookism}} The Cult Leader]], [[VideoGame/TheMimic Kintoru]], The Phantom Orb (A Roblox Quest), [[VideoGame/TheKaraoke The Coach]], [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDatkYtnwqvuI-YTpqTBfAAio-jfEcTOu Nicky Cavella]]
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=486#comment-12139 Zouken Matou]] (commits most of his atrocities while amnesiac and displays remorse for his crimes once he regains them before his death)
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=486#comment-12139 Zouken Matou]] (commits most of his atrocities while amnesiac and displays remorse for his crimes once he regains them before his death)death during certain endings)
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* ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11565#comment-289121 William Afton]] (not heinous enough when compared to Eleanor, who has thirty confirmed kills)
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** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=483#comment-12067 Yazan Gable]] (heavily outclassed by the various other omnicidal maniacs and mass murderers introduced later on in the franchise)
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** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=483#comment-12067 Yazan Gable]] (heavily outclassed by the various other omnicidal maniacs and mass murderers introduced later on in the franchise)franchise; even as a SociopathicSoldier he gets outheinoused)
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* ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacque Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules)
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* ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacque Jacques Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules)
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* ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacque Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules)
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* ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacque Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules)
* ''WebAnimation/MetaRunner'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12988#comment-324693 Derek Lucks]] (fails the heinous standard compared to James Sheridan, despite the latter having fewer resources)
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* ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacque Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules)
* ''WebAnimation/MetaRunner'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12988#comment-324693 Derek Lucks]] (fails the heinous standard compared to James Sheridan, despite the latter having fewer resources)
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** Mr. Iwamoto and Mr. Akashi (worst crimes are being a pair of {{Sadist Teacher}}s)
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** Mr. Iwamoto and Mr. Akashi (worst crimes are being a pair of {{Sadist Teacher}}s)Teacher}}s; while Iwamoto does try to kill Keiko at one point, he does so while BrainwashedAndCrazy rather than of his own volition)
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* ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons The Book of Vile Darkness]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3851#comment-96269 Dread Emperor]] (lack of characterization)
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* ''The Book of Vile Darkness'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3851#comment-96269 Dread Emperor]] (lack of characterization)
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* ''Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon'':
** ''WesternAnimation/OliverAndCompany'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1443#comment-36073 Sykes]] (while he's played seriously, his heinousness was below other Disney keepers, he also had OffstageVillainy)
** ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=786#comment-19635 Prince Hans]] (his heinousness didn't match that of other Disney keepers by a long shot)[[note]]Additionally, Hans would later be given a tragic past in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'' with redeeming qualities and was later outheinoused by [[WesternAnimation/FrozenII King Runeard]].[[/note]]
** ''WesternAnimation/OliverAndCompany'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1443#comment-36073 Sykes]] (while he's played seriously, his heinousness was below other Disney keepers, he also had OffstageVillainy)
** ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=786#comment-19635 Prince Hans]] (his heinousness didn't match that of other Disney keepers by a long shot)[[note]]Additionally, Hans would later be given a tragic past in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'' with redeeming qualities and was later outheinoused by [[WesternAnimation/FrozenII King Runeard]].[[/note]]
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