| 1 | These are characters who were each deemed a CompleteMonster at one point, but were later disqualified for one reason or another based on the consensus of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900 the cleanup thread]] (or [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok the original cleanup thread]]). |
| 2 | |
| 3 | Please note that this is ''NOT'' for characters who were brought up in the thread but were voted down, nor for characters who were unapproved to begin with and then cut. Only characters who were actually approved by the thread and later cut should go here. |
| 4 | |
| 5 | Also note that while participants are allowed to have these characters re-evaluated provided they're not on the Resolved Items list, the reasons for their removal must be addressed. Providing a link to their cut post is also preferred. Similarities between different versions of a character is no longer grounds for the disqualification of a candidate. If someone wants to re-propose a candidate that was disqualified for this reason, please do so on the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000 proposal thread]]. |
| 6 | |
| 7 | For examples from Live-Action TV, see [[Sandbox/FormerCompleteMonstersLiveActionTV here]], and for examples from Video Games see [[Sandbox/FormerCompleteMonstersVideoGames here]]. |
| 8 | |
| 9 | ![[Administrivia/SpoilersOff All spoilers are unmarked]]. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned! |
| 10 | ---- |
| 11 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 12 | |
| 13 | !!By Troper |
| 14 | |
| 15 | If you wish to examine any of these candidates yourself, feel free! Once you do so and verify whether a candidate counts or not, you can do one of two things: |
| 16 | |
| 17 | #If you believe the candidate counts, you can bring that to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000&page=1 proposal thread]] or the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=1 cleanup thread]], and we can either reinstate the previous writeup (provided it was accurate and non-plagiarized) or rewrite it to be accurate. |
| 18 | #If you believe the candidate does ''not'' count, take them to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=1 cleanup thread]] to explain your reasoning. If the thread agrees with the reasoning provided, you can remove them from this list and move them to the appropriate folder on this page (or the TV/Video Game pages) based on its media type. For the reason, rather than listing the reason they were cut, you can instead list the reason they don't count (for example, if the character is insufficiently heinous, list that as the reason rather than anything related to the proposal). |
| 19 | |
| 20 | Happy viewing and reading! |
| 21 | |
| 22 | [[folder:G-Editor]] |
| 23 | G-Editor has made so many omissions and misstatements regarding candidates that we have [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=449#comment-11205 removed every example]] they added that could not be vouched for. |
| 24 | ---- |
| 25 | * Anime and Manga: [[Anime/LagrangeTheFlowerOfRinne Balance T. Moid]], [[Manga/YonaOfTheDawn Yang Kum-Ji]], [[Manga/VampireKnight Rido Kuran (anime version)]], [[Manga/{{Zetman}} Seiji Haitani, Seizō Amagi]], [[Manga/DevilsLine Kirio Kikuhara]], [[Anime/IDInvaded Takuhiko Hayaseura/John Walker, Denshin Katsuyama/The Challenger]], [[Manga/FireForce The Captain]], [[Anime/{{Levius}} Rudolph Clown]], [[Manga/DarwinsGame Wang]], [[Manga/ToYourEternity Hayase]], [[Manga/{{Spriggan}} Little Boy]], [[Manga/{{Ultraman}} Alien Pedan]], [[Anime/BlackRockShooterDawnFall Lunatic, Smiley]] |
| 26 | * Comic Books: [[ComicBook/TheUmbrellaAcademy Hazel and Cha-Cha]] |
| 27 | * Fan Works: [[Fanfic/TotalDramaRaptured J.S. Steinman]], [[Fanfic/WorldOfTheDead Dr. Genzo Hikke]], [[Fanfic/EpicTheThirdSurvivor Brian Irons]] |
| 28 | * Film - Live Action: [[Film/{{Sputnik}} Colonel Semiradov]], [[Film/{{Sleepless}} Rob Novak]], Sadie's Husband (''A Vigilante''), [[Film/ProjectPower Dr. Gardner]], [[Film/OutsideTheWire Victor Koval]], [[Film/NoOneGetsOutAlive Becker]], [[Film/MotherlessBrooklyn Moses Randolph]], Chu (''The Protégé''), [[Film/{{Spiderhead}} Steve Abnesti]], Kruger (''AKA'') |
| 29 | * Literature: [[Literature/TheHateUGive King]], [[Literature/{{iBoy}} Cutz]], [[Literature/TheBookOfDragons Lianlei and Ongjie]], [[Literature/KazeNoStigma Michael Harley, Bernhardt Rhodes]], [[Literature/{{Durarara}} Takashi Nasujima]], [[Literature/ReZero Regulus Corneas]] |
| 30 | * Live Action TV: [[Series/BloodAndTreasure Batu]], [[Series/{{Versailles}} Father Etienne]], [[Series/TheFlightAttendant Dot Karlson]], [[Series/QueenOfTheSouth Alberto Cortez, Rocco de la Pena]], [[Series/DeadSet Patrick Goad]], [[Series/TheFive2016 Jay Newman]], [[Series/TheGifted2017 Benedict Ryan]], [[Series/FutureMan Dr. Stuart "Stu" Gavin Camillo, Marshal Mathers]], [[Series/{{Banshee}} black ops soldier]], [[Series/TheTerminalList Steve Horn, Gerald Pillar]], [[Series/{{Hanna}} Gordon Evans, Jerome Sawyer, Max Kaplan]], [[Series/Castle2009 Sophia Turner, Nigel Malloy, Barbara Lillstrom]], [[{{Series/Bellisarioverse}} Joram Naser, Otto Schmidt, Operatives "Lin" and "Davis", John Stone, Eric Barlow, Eddie Barrett]], [[Series/TheTunnel "The Chemist"]], Krzysztof "Elias" Górski (''Ultraviolet''), "Limbo" (''Ultraviolet''), Lukasz Rolak (''Ultraviolet''), Peter Stump (''Lore''), [[Series/TheMentalist Michael Ridley]], [[Series/MayorOfKingstown Milo Sunter]] |
| 31 | * Video Games: [[VideoGame/{{Ghostrunner}} Mara]], Matt Booker (''James Noir's Hollywood Crimes''), [[VideoGame/{{Homefront}} Kim Jong-un]], [[VideoGame/{{Observer}} Adam's A.I.]], [[Franchise/{{Metro}} The Baron]], [[VideoGame/LittleHope Simon Carver]] |
| 32 | [[/folder]] |
| 33 | |
| 34 | [[folder:Echidna]] |
| 35 | Echidna has made too many omissions and misstatements regarding candidates and many of his [=EPs=] are [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=460#comment-11492 plagiarized directly from Villains Wiki]]. Therefore, all examples that cannot be vouched for are removed. |
| 36 | |
| 37 | ---- |
| 38 | * [[VideoGame/BlueArchive Beatrice, Decagrammaton]], [[VideoGame/GenshinImpact Kujou Takayuki, Nathan]], [[Anime/ShinobiNoIttoki Kido Minobe]], [[Series/Voice2 Yeom Ki-tae]], [[Series/{{Voice}} Hwang Kyung-il]], [[Anime/HighSchoolFleet The Pirate Leader]], The Entity (Catto Boi), Masayuki Kaneki (Voice 3), [[Webcomic/{{Lookism}} The Cult Leader]], [[VideoGame/TheMimic Kintoru]] |
| 39 | [[/folder]] |
| 40 | |
| 41 | * [=Troperuser21=] ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=494#comment-12344 plagiarism]]): [[Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights William Afton]] |
| 42 | |
| 43 | [[folder:Proposed by Ban Evader]] |
| 44 | The following candidates are proposed by ban evaders (Original Posts: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16651724710A26447000&page=145#comment-3614 [1] ]], [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8941 [2] ]], [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=171#comment-4266 [3] ]], [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16091187550A68598200&page=41#comment-1011 [4] ]]). All examples that are not vouched for or re-litigated are removed. |
| 45 | ---- |
| 46 | * Anime and Manga: The Queen ([[{{Creator/Junji Ito}} Junji Ito's]] ''Literature/SnowWhite'') |
| 47 | * Comic Books: [[ComicBook/Robin1993 Sir Edmund Dorrance/King Snake]]; [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Robert Hallo, Adam Rook/Lazarus]]; [[ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye Froid]] |
| 48 | * Fan Works: David (''VideoGame/TheLastOfUS'' fan novelization); [[Fanfic/NaturalSelection Ragyo Kiryuin]] |
| 49 | * Film: Alan Raimy (''52 Pick-Up'' (1986)); Joey Peasley (''The Caveman's Valentine'') |
| 50 | * Live Action TV: [[Series/{{CSI}} Frank McCarthy]]; [[Series/LostTapes Charles Weatherly]] from "[[Recap/LostTapesS3E4Poltergeist Poltergeist]]"; [[Series/RipperStreet Carmichael, Harry Ward]] |
| 51 | * Music: [[Music/JohnnyCash Annie Palmer]] ("[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YOSU5WMkOpo The Ballad of Annie Palmer]]"); [[Music/DasEFX The Thug]] ("Hard Like a Criminal"); [[Music/{{GuilThee}} Conomor the Accursed]] ("[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BOIWij3exI Conomor the Accursed and Tréphine]]") |
| 52 | * Mythology & Religion: [[Myth/CelticMythology "Black" Agnes Douglas]]; [[Myth/KabyleMythology Settut]]; [[Myth/MayanMythology Chak Ek]]; [[Myth/VietnameseMythology Hồ Tinh]] |
| 53 | * Tabletop Games: [[Franchise/MagicTheGathering Kuthuman, Mochi/Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Momir Vig]] |
| 54 | * Theatre: [[Theatre/{{Lizzie}} Andrew Jackson Borden]] |
| 55 | * Video Games: [[VideoGame/KlonoaDoorToPhantomile Joker]]; [[VideoGame/ThrillKill Dr. Faustus, Cleetus, and Mammoth]]; [[VideoGame/QuantumOfSolace Dominic Greene, General Medrano and Le Chiffre]] |
| 56 | * Visual Novels: [[VisualNovel/MinotaurHotel Athena]]; [[VisualNovel/Adastra2018 Cato]] |
| 57 | * Web Original: [[WebAnimation/HarmonyAndHorror the Demon]] |
| 58 | * Western Animation: [[WesternAnimation/ElCidTheLegend Ben Yuzuf]] |
| 59 | |
| 60 | [[/folder]] |
| 61 | |
| 62 | !!By Work |
| 63 | [[folder:General]] |
| 64 | * Several groups (decided that groups as a whole didn't have moral agency) |
| 65 | * Various {{fanfic}}s (works were no longer accessible) |
| 66 | * Various RonTheDeathEater works (the {{Demonization}} of characters without reason was considered as shock value, was too hard to say if they were PlayedForLaughs) |
| 67 | [[/folder]] |
| 68 | |
| 69 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 70 | * ''Manga/AirGear'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11865#comment-296609 Sora Takeuchi]] (sympathetic death where he shows remorse and wants to overcome who he is) |
| 71 | * ''Anime/AkudamaDrive'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=461#comment-11513 Boss]] (has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment) |
| 72 | * ''Manga/AkumaNoRiddle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4054#comment-101327 Otoya Takechi]] (the pattern for her serial killings isn't sufficiently established onscreen, becomes increasingly silly and incompetent after her debut and is PlayedForLaughs in her final appearance) |
| 73 | * ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12791#comment-319754 Sergeant Major Gross]] (cares for his sons, and the supposed lack of it stemmed from a poor translation) |
| 74 | * ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1745#comment-43621 Mayuri Kurotsuchi]] (after the TimeSkip, he cares for his daughter/clone, Nemu Kurotsuchi) |
| 75 | * ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3029#comment-75720 Morihiro Hatagai]] (fails the high heinous standard, especially when whole universes are routinely blown up, a character leaves 10,000 people to die and a protagonist has AttemptedRape on his rapsheet) |
| 76 | * ''Anime/BombermanBDamanBakugaiden'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=387#comment-9669 Dark Koutei]] (not heinous enough in general) |
| 77 | * ''Manga/CaseClosed'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12354#comment-308830 The unnamed bomber]] (cares about his accomplice and is motivated to seek revenge for his death) |
| 78 | * ''Anime/CowboyBebop'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9905#comment-247614 Udai Taxim]] (only kills a few guards in comparison to other villains who have attempted large-scale mass murder, there were crimes falsely attributed to him, and he did not lead the prisoners in their rampage) |
| 79 | * ''Anime/DecaDence'' |
| 80 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=511#comment-12754 Hugin and Munin]] (they are only cogs in a bigger machine and Munin being a GracefulLoser) |
| 81 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=511#comment-12765 Turkey]] (not heinous enough) |
| 82 | * ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'': |
| 83 | ** ''Anime/DigimonAdventure'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4681#comment-117019 Machinedramon]] (the original EP falsely attributed Millenniumon's crimes to him, and without those crimes he doesn't breach the series' heinous standard) |
| 84 | ** ''Anime/DigimonTamers'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=471#comment-11751 D-Reaper]] (lacks agency due to having its mindset based on a depressed and unstable Jeri and never grows beyond its programming) |
| 85 | ** ''Anime/DigimonFusion'': |
| 86 | *** Laylamon (PlayedForLaughs too often) |
| 87 | *** Splashmon (his worst crime, manipulating all the Water Zone's denizens to kill each other is OffstageVillainy, and his on-screen actions fail to stack up with [=NeoMyotismon=] and Gravimon) |
| 88 | * ''Manga/{{Doubt}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=12144#comment-303586 Rei Hazama]] (is motivated by the death of her parents) |
| 89 | * ''Franchise/DragonBall'' franchise: |
| 90 | ** [[Manga/DragonBall Original series]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1840#comment-45980 Mercenary Tao]] (outheinoused by so many {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s not even his low resource tier helps him stand out) |
| 91 | ** ''Anime/DragonBallZ'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=478#comment-11927 Dr. Gero]] (outheinoused by Babidi with similar resources; retroactively revealed to genuinely love his son) |
| 92 | * ''Manga/ElfenLied'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3379#comment-84458 Director Kakuzawa]] (loved his daughter) |
| 93 | * ''Manga/FairyTail'': |
| 94 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=746#comment-18631 Jiemma]] (does not even come close to passing the high standard for his resource pool) |
| 95 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3320#comment-82987 Zancrow]] (not heinous enough by the manga's standards) |
| 96 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=534#comment-13346 Acnologia]] (gets an AlasPoorVillain death where he shows VillainRespect towards Natsu) |
| 97 | * ''Manga/FireForce'': |
| 98 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9648#comment-241197 Setsuo Miyamoto]] (his serial killings are OffstageVillainy, and other villains do far worse) |
| 99 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=151#comment-3761 Rekka Hoshimiya]] (ends up being EasilyForgiven by his entire team and not treated as a proper Complete Monster) |
| 100 | * ''Manga/FrankenFran'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=92#comment-2294 Shidou Miyako]] (fails the high heinous standard and the work is BlackComedy) |
| 101 | * ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9056#comment-226376 Envy]] (shares responsibility for his most heinous crime, making him fail the series' high heinous standard) |
| 102 | * ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7513#comment-187805 Miboshi]] (other villains commit far worse crimes) |
| 103 | * ''Anime/GhostStories'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=149#comment-3707 Yamime]] (the other villains do far worse) |
| 104 | * ''Anime/GuiltyCrown'': |
| 105 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2335#comment-58362 Mana Ouma]] (her evil was a result of being infected by the Apocalypse Virus) |
| 106 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=300#comment-7478 Shuichi Keido]] (apparently loves his sister) |
| 107 | * ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'': |
| 108 | ** ''Anime/AfterWarGundamX'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8168#comment-204186 Mayor Nomoa Long]] (fails the high heinous standard and mourns someone's death) |
| 109 | ** ''Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=188#comment-4682 Katejina Loos]] (insufficiently heinous and has EvenEvilHasStandards moments; Tomino also did not intend her to be utterly despicable) |
| 110 | ** ''Manga/MobileSuitGundamSeedAstray'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7603#comment-190072 Ash Gray]] (too standard for the setting) |
| 111 | ** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=213#comment-5316 Arthur Goodman]] (failed the heinous standard compared to Ribbons Almark and Ali Al-Saachez) |
| 112 | ** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=483#comment-12067 Yazan Gable]] (heavily outclassed by the various other omnicidal maniacs and mass murderers introduced later on in the franchise; even as a SociopathicSoldier he gets outheinoused) |
| 113 | * ''Manga/GunXClover'': |
| 114 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9547#comment-238661 Sayuri Higuchi]] (has a traumatic FreudianExcuse of being raped and experimented on and cares for her adopted son) |
| 115 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9547#comment-238661 Alex Valentine Wheeler Jr.]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Sayuri, is a WellIntentionedExtremist, and faked some of his supposed crimes) |
| 116 | * ''Manga/GunsmithCats'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3722#comment-93030 Goldie Musou]] (has a backstory depicted sympathetically and ultimately pulls a HeelFaceTurn by the end) |
| 117 | * ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=519#comment-12963 Hayate's parents]] (vile, but likely not heinous enough) |
| 118 | * ''Manga/HeavensLostProperty'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8302#comment-207530 Minos]] (genuinely cares for his cohorts) |
| 119 | * ''Manga/HighschoolOfTheDead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=237#comment-5905 Koichi Shido]] (genuinely cares for his mother, is implied to be trapped in villainy, and [[DiedDuringProduction the author died before his work is complete]]) |
| 120 | * ''Manga/{{Holyland}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=273#comment-6806 Yagi]] (not heinous enough) |
| 121 | * ''Manga/HunterXHunter'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1409#comment-35207 Shaiapouf]] (genuinely believes he's doing what's best for Meruem and is implied to feel remorse about some of his actions) |
| 122 | * ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'': |
| 123 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=262#comment-6543 Taigokumaru]] and several other demons (all of them bar Naraku, Hakudoshi and the Infant are generic fare who fail the massive heinous standard of the series where man-eating demons routinely slaughter entire villages and kill hundreds, horrible as they are) |
| 124 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=261#comment-6509 Mukotsu]] (not heinous enough and possibly cared about his comrades) |
| 125 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=262#comment-6544 Tokajin]] (vile despite being a mere human rather than a demon, but he fails the baseline heinous standard set by Naraku) |
| 126 | * ''Manga/KillerKiller'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=471#comment-11753 Rei Shimizu]] (her murders rely too much on FridgeHorror for her to stand out) |
| 127 | * ''VideoGame/TheLegendaryStarfy'' manga: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=326#comment-8129 Ogura]] (relies too much on FridgeHorror to pass the baseline) |
| 128 | * ''Manga/Life2002'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2923#comment-73057 Manami Anzai]] (ambiguously redeemable) |
| 129 | * ''Anime/LordOfVermilion: The Crimson King'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10278#comment-256934 Kaburagi Kark]] (EP was found to have plagiarized from other sources) |
| 130 | * ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'': |
| 131 | ** ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=479#comment-11966 Precia Testarossa]] (is motivated by the loss of her daughter) |
| 132 | ** ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'': |
| 133 | *** Jail Scaglietti (vile, but is a BenevolentBoss towards his underlings) |
| 134 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=476#comment-11886 Quattro]] (is genuinely loyal to her own group) |
| 135 | * ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7955#comment-198873 Admiral Haruki Kusakabe]] (isn't aware of the experiments committed on Akito and Yurika and genuinely cares for his soldiers) |
| 136 | * ''Manga/{{Monster}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=453#comment-11311 Johan Liebert]] (''Another Monster'', a light novel by the same author, reveals that he genuinely considered Karl Neuman a friend and refrained from killing him despite how easily he could have any time he wanted to) |
| 137 | * ''Manga/{{MW}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11076#comment-276894 Michio Yuki]] (has a genuine FreudianExcuse of being raped as a child and has questionable moral agency due to brain damage) |
| 138 | * ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': |
| 139 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1746#comment-43629 Orochimaru]] (story treats him as redeemed and cares for his son) |
| 140 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=502#comment-12543 Hidan]] (shows genuine respect towards and mourns a young Jashinist in the canon tie-in novel ''Akatsuki Hiden'') |
| 141 | * ''Manga/OnePiece'': |
| 142 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=22#comment-536 The Five Elder Stars]][[note]]Saints Jaygarcia Saturn, Marcus Mars, Topman Warcury, Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro, and Shepherd Ju Peter[[/note]] (not fleshed out enough and potentially {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s) |
| 143 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54621 Saint Charloss]] (doesn't stand out compared to the other Celestial Dragons) |
| 144 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4679#comment-116962 Shiryu]] (crimes are standard for the work) |
| 145 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=270#comment-6741 Akainu/Sakazuki]] (indicated to have cared for and shown respect to his fellow admiral Kuzan) |
| 146 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=22#comment-536 Big Mom]] (crimes were standard fare at the time of nomination; she was later revealed to have agency issues and a FreudianExcuse for her behavior) |
| 147 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=423#comment-10553 Caesar Clown]] (becomes too much of a joke character) |
| 148 | * ''Anime/PokemonTheSeriesXY'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8125#comment-203116 Xerosic]] (all of his actions were done under Lysandre's orders except for trying to destroy the world on his own, which isn't unique to the series, and is implied to undergo a HeelRealization) |
| 149 | * ''Anime/PsychoPass'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=536#comment-13386 Shogo Makishima]] (has a VillainousFriendship with his [[TheDragon dragon]] Choe Gu-sung and genuine respect for the heroes, as well as complex morality due to being in an EvilVersusEvil setup with the Sybil System) |
| 150 | * ''Manga/RosarioPlusVampire'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=291#comment-7274 Kiria Yoshi]] (redeeming qualities and heinous standard issues) |
| 151 | * ''Anime/TheRoseOfVersailles'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2086#comment-52133 Henri de Guémént]] (only kills one person, which fails the baseline) |
| 152 | * ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'': |
| 153 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=1#comment-24 Gein]] (not heinous enough by the standards of the series) |
| 154 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11133#comment-278322 Takeda Kanryuu]] (develops a genuine rapport with another character in the sequel manga) |
| 155 | * ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1497#comment-37425 Hendrickson]] (was revealed to be possessed by demons) |
| 156 | * ''Manga/ShadowStar'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2319#comment-57967 Aki Honda]] (despicable, but only commits one rape, and the protagonist does way worse) |
| 157 | * ''Anime/SSSSGridman'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5656 Alexis Kerib]] (does a HeroicSacrifice to stop Mad Origin out of genuine altruism in ''Anime/GridmanUniverse'') |
| 158 | * ''Anime/{{Symphogear}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7282#comment-182041 Dr. Ver]] (towards the end of ''GX'', he pulled a HeelFaceTurn to help the FIS trio and an eventual HeroicSacrifice to stop Chateau de Tiffauges' destruction) |
| 159 | * ''Manga/TokyoESP'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8354#comment-208849 Claudia Kuroi]] (her FreudianExcuse is portrayed sympathetically to an extent) |
| 160 | * ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'': |
| 161 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=499#comment-12469 Niruma Furuta]] (displays care for Rize in his final moments and his death is played for sympathy) |
| 162 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=499#comment-12469 Rize Kamishiro]] (her mutilation and torture during the creation of Half-Ghouls and death are played for sympathy and she's implied to care for Niruma) |
| 163 | * ''Tomogui'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12724#comment-318100 Hayato]] (apologizes to Kazuyoshi for his crimes with no sign of it being faked) |
| 164 | * ''Manga/{{Toriko}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2266#comment-56648 Tommyrod]] (fails the heinous standard) |
| 165 | * ''Anime/{{Tsugumomo}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=30#comment-748 Dabada Dabaharl]] (manga was cut for Administrivia/TheContentPolicy violations and the character also violated it) |
| 166 | * ''Anime/TweenyWitchesTheAdventures'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8946#comment-223636 Ice Witch]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Grande and Jestor) |
| 167 | * ''Anime/UnicronTrilogy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2257#comment-56420 Sideways]] (it's implied that he was possessed by Unicron in ''Armada''; once he reappears in ''Cybertron'', free of Unicron's influence, he is shown to care about avenging his planet) |
| 168 | * ''Manga/UshioAndTora'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2493#comment-62318 Hakumen no Mono]] (is MadeOfEvil and gets an AlasPoorVillain death scene) |
| 169 | * ''Manga/ViolenceJack'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8026#comment-200648 Slum King]] (MadeOfEvil) |
| 170 | * ''Manga/YuGiOhGX'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4297#comment-107416 Tragoedia]] (cared for his village) |
| 171 | * ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5660#comment-141485 Dr. Ichigaki]] (fails to match the Elder Toguro in spite of similar resources) |
| 172 | [[/folder]] |
| 173 | |
| 174 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 175 | * ''ComicBook/AstroCity'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=86#comment-2132 The Infidel]] (the comic puts too much emphasis on the idea that he could be redeemable) |
| 176 | * ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2941#comment-73508 Seth]] (lacks onscreen deeds and has a FreudianExcuse of being sexually abused as a child) |
| 177 | * ''ComicBook/BackToBrooklyn'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1967#comment-49151 Paul "The Wall" Saetta]] ([[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas loves his mother]]) |
| 178 | * ''The Batman Who Laughs'' #1: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9924#comment-248099 Earth -22 Joker]] (fails the heinous standard, especially when The Batman Who Laughs and Perpetua blow up multiple universes. He Who Laughs also becomes his own character later on) |
| 179 | * ''ComicBook/{{Blueberry}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=298#comment-7437 "Prosit" von Luckner]] (fails heinousness compared to other villains) |
| 180 | * ''ComicBook/CliveBarkersHellraiser'': |
| 181 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7829#comment-195715 Edward Leverett]] (nowhere near heinous enough compared to the listed [=CMs=]) |
| 182 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=7590#comment-189729 Phillip LeMarchand]] (is indicated to have remorse for his crimes) |
| 183 | * ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3881#comment-97019 Joseph Pratt and Steve]] (neither even come close to passing the work's heinous standard) |
| 184 | * ''Franchise/DieHard: Year One'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=48#comment-1179 Alan Douglas]] (generic by the standards of the series) |
| 185 | * ''ComicBook/{{Empowered}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2230#comment-55750 Deathmonger]] (cares for Manny, even sparing Emp once because Manny likes her; seems to also have respect for Emp) |
| 186 | * ''ComicBook/{{Fables}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2695#comment-67353 Hansel]] (is revealed to have standards against killing children in his final appearance) |
| 187 | * ''ComicBook/GIJoeIDW'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10775#comment-269371 Xamot Paoli and Blacklight]] (both fail the heinous standard of the comic, even for their resource level) |
| 188 | * ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8486#comment-212126 Volthoom]] (has a genuine tragedy of being imprisoned for billions of years) |
| 189 | * ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7800#comment-194983 Joshua Wright]] (as vile as he is, he doesn't stack up with other human antagonists) |
| 190 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''' comic book adaptation: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6392#comment-159798 Syndrome]] (too similar to his film counterpart) |
| 191 | * ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10269#comment-256711 The Joker]] (expresses genuine disgust for Nazis and bigotry in the prequel comic) |
| 192 | * ''ComicBook/{{Joker}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=419#comment-10458 Joker]] (has a scene with Harley Quinn where he's hugging her for comfort) |
| 193 | * ''ComicBook/JonahHex2005'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11940#comment-298494 Sheriff of Kent]] (shown to care about his brother in a panel) |
| 194 | * ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3118#comment-77941 Prometheus]] (genuinely cared for his parents) |
| 195 | * ''Franchise/MarvelComics'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=200#comment-4997 Ebenezer "The Scarecrow" Laughton]] (seemingly cares for his mother) |
| 196 | * ''ComicBook/MicronautsImage'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8139#comment-203465 Baron Karza]] (revealed to care for his father and daughter in a tie-in novel series) |
| 197 | * ''ComicBook/MightyMorphinPowerRangersBoomStudios'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=517#comment-12910 Drakkon]] (dying moment is a selfless act) |
| 198 | * ''ComicBook/MyLittlePony: The Stolen Shadow'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11436#comment-285877 Chameleon the Enchanter]] (his villainy is entirely generic) |
| 199 | * ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX'': |
| 200 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=462#comment-11535 Nicky Cavella]] (fails the high heinous standard and has a possible PetTheDog moment) |
| 201 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=440#comment-10996 Cristu Bulat and Vera Konstantin]] (show genuine care and concern for each other) |
| 202 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=440#comment-10996 Mickey Fane]] (feels remorse over leaving Polly to her death, and openly misses her) |
| 203 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3477#comment-86916 Kingpin]] (shows genuine standards against Bullseye's killing of multiple families) |
| 204 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3477#comment-86913 Bullseye]] (has a PetTheDog moment with Vanessa where he laments [[WhatHaveIBecome what he's become]] and tells her not to be like him) |
| 205 | * ''Reality Show'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8319#comment-207956 Red Triangle]] (several possible PetTheDog moments) |
| 206 | * ''ComicBook/RedRobin'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9548#comment-238678 Vittoria/The Wanderer]] (has a very traumatic FreudianExcuse) |
| 207 | * ''ComicBook/RexMundi'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3251#comment-81260 Duke of Lorraine]] (loves his daughter) |
| 208 | * ''ComicBook/ScoobyApocalypse'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6536#comment-163380 Rufus T. Dinkley]] (treated with sympathy by the narrative and has agency issues from using an experimental chemical) |
| 209 | * ''ComicBook/SecretSix'': |
| 210 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10489#comment-262214 Junior]] (has a valid FreudianExcuse of being sexually abused by her father and many of her crimes are offscreen) |
| 211 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2616#comment-65377 Dwarfstar]] (fails the comic's heinous standard) |
| 212 | * ''ComicBook/SilentHill'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=12#comment-290 Michael "Mad Dog" Stanton]] (fails the massive heinous standard of the series, mostly due to the fact the actions of his son can't be fully placed on him) |
| 213 | * ''ComicBook/SinCity'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=274#comment-6833 Kevin]] (had a good relationship with Cardinal Roark; possibly EvenEvilHasStandards in regard to Roark Jr.'s pedophilia) |
| 214 | * ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': |
| 215 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=56#1377 Dr. Finitevus]] (questionable agency due to absorbing a large amount of chaos energy and instantly turning evil) |
| 216 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8478#comment-211926 Dark Enerjak]] (was possessed by another being) |
| 217 | * ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': |
| 218 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11326#comment-283126 Norman Osborn]] (cares for his son Harry Osborn, as shown when a clone of him dies protecting Norman and he breaks down; trying to kill him during ''ComicBook/DarkReign'' and ''ComicBook/GoDownSwinging'' is inconsistent with his usual characterization) |
| 219 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=283#comment-7061 Miles Warren]] (his FreudianExcuse of losing his wife and kids still holds up) |
| 220 | * ''ComicBook/SpirouAndFantasio'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11826#comment-295633 Cyanure]] (not treated seriously enough by the work, insufficiently heinous) |
| 221 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': |
| 222 | ** ''ComicBook/JangoFettOpenSeasons'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9114#comment-227826 Tor Viszla]] (his worst crime is OffstageVillainy, and he doesn't meet the franchise's heinous standard) |
| 223 | ** ''[[ComicBook/StarWarsRepublic Republic]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7607#comment-190175 Durge]] (cares about his mentor) |
| 224 | * ''ComicBook/StreetFighterMalibuComics'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=157#comment-3912 M. Bison]] (only has 5 kills and being a BadBoss, which fails the heinous standard of both the "Genesis Universe" and the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' franchise as a whole) |
| 225 | * ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'': |
| 226 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9821#comment-245504 Superboy-Prime]] (gets a redemption arc and makes a HeroicSacrifice) |
| 227 | ** ''Superman's Metropolis'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7807#comment-195170 Lutor]] (loved Marta despite killing her for being rejected) |
| 228 | * ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIDW'' & ''ComicBook/UsagiYojimbo'' {{Crossover}}: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=401#comment-10003 Dr. WhereWhen]] (villainy too standard) |
| 229 | * ''The Third Testament'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11935#comment-298361 Duke Sayn]] (revealed to have had an understandable reason for his turn to villainy in a prequel) |
| 230 | * ''ComicBook/{{Thorgal}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8184#comment-204598 Shardar]] (mourns his son Veronar) |
| 231 | * ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvel'': |
| 232 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4293#comment-107314 Ultimate Red Skull]] (was raised to be evil and ultimately tries to undo his crimes via time travel; death is somewhat of an AlasPoorVillain) |
| 233 | ** ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2185#comment-54603 Ultimate Magneto]] (expressed regret for his crimes) |
| 234 | * ''ComicBook/TheWalkingDead'': |
| 235 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5949#comment-148703 Philip Blake]], aka [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9195#comment-229864 The Governor]] (cares for one of his subordinates) |
| 236 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=316#comment-7891 Thomas Richards]] (body count deemed too low, and killing children isn't particularly unique in this comic) |
| 237 | * ''ComicBook/WonderWoman2006'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=152#comment-3780 Astarte]] (tragic backstory) |
| 238 | * ''ComicBook/TheWraith'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=79#1956 Joe Carroll]] (not bad enough by Golden Age standards) |
| 239 | * ''ComicBook/XMen'': |
| 240 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=293#comment-7311 Apocalypse (Earth-616 incarnation)]] (has loved ones, as well as a [[TearJerker/XOfSwords tragic backstory]]) |
| 241 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=120#comment-2991 Sabretooth]] (loved his mother) |
| 242 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=463#comment-11564 Sugarman]] (proposer hadn't read comics; re-proposal possible) |
| 243 | ** ''ComicBook/X23InnocenceLost'' & ''Target: X'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9291#comment-232272 Dr. Zander Rice]] (wants to avenge his father's death) |
| 244 | [[/folder]] |
| 245 | |
| 246 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 247 | * ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD: The Season 3 Fanfics'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2836#comment-70879 Brett Petrie]] (stories were never written or completed) |
| 248 | * ''Fanfic/AnotherJourney'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9086#comment-227140 Dante]] (loved her mentor and is hinted to still be affected by his death even if she's in denial about it) |
| 249 | * ''Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' {{fanfic}}s: |
| 250 | ** ''Fanfic/TheFallOfTheFireEmpire'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6687#comment-167161 Gian]] (doesn't pass the baseline, let alone ATLA's heinous standard) |
| 251 | ** ''Fanfic/TheSagaOfAvatarKorra'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6619#comment-165454 Ming-Hua]] (doesn't pass the baseline) |
| 252 | * ''Film/TheBananaSplitsMovie: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Uqkrecwc8 What if Bingo had a larger role...?]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11402#comment-285049 Bingo]] (the story is just a person describing a concept and is too short) |
| 253 | * ''Fanfic/LaBelle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11871#comment-296761 Sergio]] (shows potentially genuine love for Isolde, and the writing is too unclear if he subverts it or not) |
| 254 | * ''Fanfic/DespairIsland'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12757#comment-318904 Chris McLean]] (indicated to care about his grandmother) |
| 255 | * ''VideoGame/ADifferentSnowgrave'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=533#comment-13308 Spamton]] (alternate ending to the actual game; therefore can't disregard canon redeeming qualities) |
| 256 | * ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12907#comment-322663 Baron Typhonus, The Brickspider Bot v1.0., and Dr. Michelle Glados]] (all were proposed by the host of the roleplay) |
| 257 | * ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10039#comment-250975 Jschlatt]] (doesn't pass the baseline, especially with his level of resources, and is PlayedForLaughs occasionally) |
| 258 | * ''WebAnimation/EmesisBlue'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8938 Jacques Murnau]] (not heinous enough, especially compared to Jules) |
| 259 | * ''WebVideo/FalloutLanius'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=523#comment-13063 Lanius]] (work is meant to be a prequel, so he potentially develops the same redeeming qualities as his canon counterpart) |
| 260 | * ''WebAnimation/FinalFantasyVIIMachinabridged'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=530#comment-13250 Sephiroth]] (has the same FreudianExcuse as his canon counterpart) |
| 261 | * ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtCandys'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=183#4572 RAT]] (not heinous enough, especially when compared with CAT) |
| 262 | * ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtWarios'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=1#comment-3 Entity 01]] (likely moral agency issues, honored his deal with Bruno Gate, and is presented sympathetically) |
| 263 | * ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10797038/1/Goosebumps-United Goosebumps United]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8414#comment-210346 Sarah Maas]] (was proposed by her own author and suffers from too much demonization) |
| 264 | * ''Film/Halloween2018'': ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOCFCaTXKg The Shape]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11401#comment-285023 Michael Myers]] (the video is just a concept for a sequel) |
| 265 | * ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fanfic ''Fanfic/TheDragonTamer'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13053817 link]]): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=467#comment-11671 Serena Daniels]] (bare-bones plot) |
| 266 | * ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron'' {{Game Mod}}s: |
| 267 | ** ''VideoGame/{{Kaiserredux}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12776#comment-319380 H. P. Lovecraft]] (undergoes a redemption arc in one of the routes) |
| 268 | ** ''VideoGame/RedFlood'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9933#comment-248302 Charles Nungesser and Georges Bataille]] (insufficiently heinous compared to both Churchill and The Avatar) |
| 269 | ** ''VideoGame/RedWorld'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12891#comment-322251 Bal Thackeray]] (his actions aren't heinous enough compared to the numerous genocidal organizations and villains) |
| 270 | ** ''VideoGame/ThousandWeekReich'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12995#comment-324872 Heinrich Himmler]] (indicated to be genuinely insane and not able to fully comprehend his actions) |
| 271 | * ''[[https://hedon.fandom.com/wiki/Hedon_Wiki Hedon]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11445#comment-286102 Nithriel]] (revealed in a sequel that all her heinous actions were done while she was brainwashed) |
| 272 | * ''Infernal Tales - A Helltaker Story'': Abaddon, Kalfu Twa, Congo Savanne, and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10019#comment-250471 Shukra/Lahamu]] (the author's behavior on the thread makes it clear that the work is largely about getting characters approved instead of a story; the fic is also somewhat tasteless)[[note]]Additionally, the page for the fic would later get cut for violating Administrivia/TheContentPolicy.[[/note]] |
| 273 | * ''VideoGame/TheJoyOfCreationReborn'': |
| 274 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9828#comment-245696 Michael Schmidt]] (moral agency issues due to being a demon, multiple redeeming qualities, and a lore misunderstanding which caused the proposal to say he's the same person as Creation) |
| 275 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9828#comment-245696 Creation]] (moral agency issues due to being four demons in one body, insufficiently heinous, and a lore misunderstanding which caused the proposal to say it's the same person as Michael) |
| 276 | * ''Fanfic/JusticeLeagueTheSpider'' & ''Web of Cadmus'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=528#comment-13194 Doctor Octopus]] (seems to care for his tentacles) |
| 277 | * ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' {{fanfic}}s: |
| 278 | ** ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/13555059 Cupies]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6523#comment-163057 Leo]] (fanfic lacks substantial plot) |
| 279 | ** ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/13563087 Origins of Sectonia]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6524#comment-163079 Dark Meta Knight]] (story has no plot besides "evil character does evil things") |
| 280 | * ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luI0jRMUjFo Legacy Wars: Street Fighter Showdown]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10149#comment-253723 M. Bison]] (doesn't pass the baseline) |
| 281 | * ''The Locust'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2266#comment-56643 The character]] (work was never published) |
| 282 | * ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mask-of-the-red-death-a-crossed-tl.419047/ Mask of the Red Death- a "Crossed" TL]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9448#comment-236194 General Liu Zhen]] (uncertainty over whether the fanfic's setting was significantly altered from the original) |
| 283 | * ''WebVideo/MonsterIslandBuddies'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8697#comment-217425 "Massacre"]] (taken seriously by the narrative, but other villains have committed worse atrocities that are PlayedForLaughs) |
| 284 | * ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' {{fanfic}}s: |
| 285 | ** ''Fanfic/BloomingMoonChronicles'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3124#comment-78090 Sol Seraph]] (shows care for Fluttershy in her final moments) |
| 286 | ** ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/20661/i-have-no-wings-and-i-must-fly I have no wings and I must fly]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9253#comment-231314 AP]] (too similar to his original counterpart) |
| 287 | ** ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': |
| 288 | *** Nihilus (agency issues from being Twilight's SuperpoweredEvilSide) |
| 289 | *** General Esteem (genuinely admires and cares for his daughter, Rarity, despite the TrainingFromHell he put her through) |
| 290 | ** ''Fanfic/PagesOfHarmony'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1855#comment-46354 Twilight Sparkle]] (story is {{Grimdark}} with RonTheDeathEater in full effect and Twilight herself is a WellIntentionedExtremist). |
| 291 | ** ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'': |
| 292 | *** Discord (has a HeelRealization and allows his good personality, Dissy, to fully take over) |
| 293 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1957#comment-48924 Film Critique]] (only SerialRapist in the fic, but fails the heinous standard compared to the other mass-murdering villains) |
| 294 | * ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' {{fanfic}}s: |
| 295 | ** ''Fanfic/EchoesKagaseo'': |
| 296 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8505#comment-212613 Alpha]] (possible WellIntentionedExtremist) |
| 297 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8390#comment-209742 Warlord]] (was driven insane from being MindRaped by other Naruto clones) |
| 298 | ** ''Fanfic/Team8'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6827#comment-170671 Itachi Uchiha]] (slaughtering one's entire village isn't particularly heinous for Naruto) |
| 299 | ** ''Uchiha Heiress Remix'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8513#comment-212822 Sakura Haruno]] (fic deemed too tasteless)[[note]]Additionally, the page for the fic would later get cut for violating Administrivia/TheContentPolicy.[[/note]] |
| 300 | * ''Fanfic/PerfectionIsOverrated'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=405#comment-10102 Kirihara]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=405#comment-10113 Hitomi]] ([=SUEs=] don't have free will) |
| 301 | * ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' FanWorks: |
| 302 | ** ''Fanfic/PokeWars'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1843#comment-46065 Ho-Oh]] (later becomes TheAtoner) |
| 303 | ** ''[[VideoGame/PokemonReborn Reborn]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12562#comment-314045 Lin]] (updates reveal her genuine FreudianExcuse of being physically and sexually abused by her father, Connal) |
| 304 | * ''Franchise/{{RWBY}}'' {{fanfic}}s: |
| 305 | ** ''[[https://ladybug--week.tumblr.com/post/170156567813/the-black-dragon The Black Dragon]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6561#comment-164024 Adam Taurus]] (story is too barebones) |
| 306 | ** ''Fanfic/TheMakingsOfTeamCRME'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=56#comment-1389 Cinder Fall]] (''Fanfic/MyNameIsCinder'' depicts her tragic backstory involving her AbusiveMom that affected her deeply) |
| 307 | ** ''Fanfic/RubyAndNora'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=5757#comment-143924 Admah Keter]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=5759#comment-143968 Abigail Lemon]] (both fail the heinous standard of the fic) |
| 308 | ** ''Fanfic/TheUnseenHunt'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11603#comment-290051 Cinder/Rebecca Farleigh]] (genuinely loves her mate) |
| 309 | ** ''Fanfic/WarOfRemnantARWBYAnthology'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=467#comment-11652 Simon Blade, Carter Pillar, and Miranda Spot]] (all were outheinoused as the fic continued) |
| 310 | * ''Fanfic/SoulEaterTroubledSouls'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8443#comment-211061 Medusa Gorgon]] (was proposed by her own author) |
| 311 | * ''Fanfic/SquidwardsSuicide'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1466#comment-36626 The murderer]] (not enough personality and story deemed shock value) |
| 312 | * ''Fanfic/ToThoseWhoAreNeverGoingHome'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=386#comment-9638 Thales]] (work no longer online) |
| 313 | * ''Fanfic/TouhouGalaxy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11859#comment-296456 Esdeath]] (possible heinousness issues and a possible PetTheDog moment) |
| 314 | * ''WebAnimation/{{Underverse}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10226#comment-255649 [=XGaster=]]] (indicated to care for Ink) |
| 315 | * ''Wandering Pilot'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11944#comment-298595 The Swamp Witch and Melona]] (fic deemed tasteless shock value with a child being brutally tortured in explicit detail)[[note]]Additionally, the page for the fic would later get cut for violating Administrivia/TheContentPolicy.[[/note]] |
| 316 | * ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' fanfic ''Wer zuletzt lacht'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11130#comment-278246 Artarion and Randar]] (their biggest crime is shared between them and seven other people, meaning they don't stand out even with the lower heinous standard compared to canon) |
| 317 | * [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8047441/1/Within_these_Walls Within These Walls]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10893#comment-272322 Mad Hatter and Red King]] (the chapter they appear in has a graphic underage rape scene, most of their crimes are offscreen and they lack personality beyond committing crimes ForTheEvulz) |
| 318 | * ''Fanfic/AWolfAmongstLions'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11061#comment-276519 Ramsay Snow]] (all of his crimes are replicated by others in higher quantities and scale) |
| 319 | * ''Fanfic/WorldOfTheDead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=239#comment-5970 Koichi Shido]] (shares his [[Manga/HighschoolOfTheDead canon incarnation]]'s backstory and care for his mother) |
| 320 | [[/folder]] |
| 321 | |
| 322 | [[folder:Films -- Animated]] |
| 323 | * ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=60#comment-1480 Hopper]] (makes a promise to his mother on her deathbed and actually keeps it) |
| 324 | * ''WesternAnimation/CorpseBride'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1644#comment-41078 Lord Barkis Bittern]] (not heinous enough, body count deemed not high enough) |
| 325 | * ''WesternAnimation/DCAnimatedMovieUniverse'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8563#comment-214070 Trigon]] (grows to care about Raven in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDarkApokolipsWar'' and sacrifices himself to save her) |
| 326 | * ''WesternAnimation/DuckTalesTheMovieTreasureOfTheLostLamp'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=63#comment-1558 Merlock]] (not played seriously enough and his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy) |
| 327 | * ''Anime/GodzillaCityOnTheEdgeOfBattle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10418#comment-260447 Mulu-elu Galu-gu]] (doesn't stand out amongst his people, is genuinely well-intentioned to an extent, and has respect for other characters) |
| 328 | * ''The Golden Drops'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=51#comment-1252 The Chancellor]] (villainy is mostly generic and full of FridgeHorror) |
| 329 | * ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=79#comment-1975 Lord Shen]] (indicated to love and respect his nanny Soothsayer, his insecurities are also partially played for sympathy) |
| 330 | * ''Franchise/LupinIII'' films: |
| 331 | ** ''Anime/TheCastleOfCagliostro'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1608#comment-40183 Count Cagliostro]] (original writeup attributed murders to him that happened before he was even born; Cagliostro himself has no known bodycount) |
| 332 | ** ''[[Anime/LupinIIIMysteryOfTheHemingwayPapers Mystery of the Hemingway Papers]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10531#comment-263265 Crazy Mash]] (fails the heinous standard of the franchise) |
| 333 | * ''WesternAnimation/AMatterOfLoafAndDeath'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4350#comment-108730 Piella Bakewell]] (deemed too comedic) |
| 334 | * ''Franchise/OnePiece'' films: |
| 335 | ** ''Anime/TheDesertPrincessAndThePiratesAdventuresInAlabasta'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9134#comment-228337 Crocodile]] (too similar to his anime counterpart[[note]]Who also doesn't count because he [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9134#comment-228342 has redeeming qualities]] not present in this CompressedAdaptation[[/note]]) |
| 336 | ** ''Episode of Sky Island'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11670#comment-291734 Enel]] (no evidence that he died instead of falling to the moon unlike his canonical counterpart, which kickstarts his mini-arc where he demonstrates redeeming qualities and prevents him from counting) |
| 337 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Pachamama}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=502#comment-12526 Conquistador Chief]] (too generic) |
| 338 | * ''Anime/Pokemon4Ever'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2857#comment-71407 Iron-Masked Maruder]] (his crimes, terrible as they are, lack the scope of Cyrus and Hunter J or the unique cruelty of Grings Kodai and Dr. Zed[[note]]The {{novelization}} version [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000&page=1478#comment-36935 counts]], though, as he does not need to compete with any of the latter villains.[[/note]]) |
| 339 | * ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=185#comment-4602 "Big" Jack Horner]] (PlayedForLaughs too often, and the consequences of his wish for all magic in the world are not elaborated upon[[note]]His {{novelization}} counterpart is approved, meanwhile, as he's played more seriously and the consequences of his wish are explored enough.[[/note]]) |
| 340 | * ''[[Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins The Seven Deadly Sins the Movie: Prisoners of the Sky]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6871#comment-171752 Bellion]] (not heinous enough for the franchise given his resources) |
| 341 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheTaleOfDespereaux'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9108#comment-227697 Botticelli Remorso]] (the full extent of his atrocities is FridgeHorror) |
| 342 | * ''[[Literature/VampireHunterD Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4199#comment-104959 Carmilla]] (not bad enough for her level of resources) |
| 343 | [[/folder]] |
| 344 | |
| 345 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action & Made-For-TV]] |
| 346 | * ''Film/AllTheBoysLoveMandyLane'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=514#comment-12844 Mandy Lane]] (not bad enough) |
| 347 | * ''Alone'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=6#comment-126 Ploy]] (feels remorse about causing her sister's death and likely fails the heinous standard for horror movie villains) |
| 348 | * ''Film/AngelHasFallen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8530#comment-213250 Wade Jennings]] (gives Mike Banning apparently legitimate VillainRespect and gets a bit of an AlasPoorVillain death) |
| 349 | * ''Film/{{Angst}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9633#comment-240806 the unnamed protagonist]] (has a FreudianExcuse of being abused by his entire family as a child) |
| 350 | * ''Film/BadInfluence'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=553#comment-13825 Alex]] (nowhere near bad enough) |
| 351 | * ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1095#comment-27371 Rhoda Penmark]] (genuinely couldn't comprehend that her crimes were heinous) |
| 352 | * ''Film/BallisticEcksVsSever'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=210#comment-5239 Robert Gant]] (not heinous enough) |
| 353 | * ''Film/BlackDeath'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4142#comment-103542 Langiva]] (doesn't stand out in the setting and loved her deceased husband) |
| 354 | * ''Film/BlownAway'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10085#comment-252105 Ryan Gaerity]] (his care for his sister appears at least somewhat genuine) |
| 355 | * ''Film/{{Bright}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303542 Leilah]] (despite trying to kill her, she truly loves her sister Tikka) |
| 356 | * ''Bullying'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4806#comment-120131 Nacho]] (doesn't go beyond generic bullying other than trying to rape and kill the protagonist) |
| 357 | * ''Film/Cargo2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9920 Vic Carter]] (possible AlasPoorVillain moment) |
| 358 | * ''Children of the Living Dead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=147#comment-3668 Abbott Hayes]] (possible tragic backstory involving being sexually abused by his mother, and likely not heinous enough especially since his past rapes and murders are offscreen) |
| 359 | * ''Circle of Fear'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=112#comment-2797 Dark Half]] (not heinous enough) |
| 360 | * ''Film/CitizenX'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=215#comment-5367 Andrei Chikatilo]] (too mentally unstable) |
| 361 | * ''Film/CityOfGod'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2691#comment-67261 Ze Pequeno]] (cared for his best friend) |
| 362 | * ''Film/{{Cliffhanger}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3304#comment-82591 Delmar]] (generic {{Mook}} other than his sadism) |
| 363 | * ''Film/CuttingClass'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10400#comment-259990 Brian Woods]] (unable to comprehend the full gravity of his actions due to his schizophrenia) |
| 364 | * ''Film/TheDarkestMinds'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12017#comment-300408 President Gray]] (effort post contained incorrect information; outheinoused by his son) |
| 365 | * ''Film/{{Darkman}}'': |
| 366 | ** ''Film/DarkmanIITheReturnOfDurant'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Dr. Alfred Hathaway]] (potential deaths from nuclear testing is not confirmed and is not established separately from Durant's agenda) |
| 367 | ** ''Film/DarkmanIIIDieDarkmanDie'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Peter Rooker]] (his nearly killing Jenny is incidental and his other acts of violence are heavily outclassed by Durant) |
| 368 | * ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=362#comment-9041 Koba]] (a tie-in novel reveals the full extent of the torture he suffered, which is deemed too horrific for the character to subvert his FreudianExcuse. Author also did not intend him to be utterly despicable) |
| 369 | * ''Film/DeadRisingEndgame'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4319#comment-107954 Dr. Leo Rand]] (WellIntentionedExtremist) |
| 370 | * ''Film/DeathMachine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=359#comment-8975 Jack Dante]] (has a FreudianExcuse and AlasPoorVillain death) |
| 371 | * ''Film/{{Detention}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10119#comment-252954 Sander Sanderson/Cinderhella]] (the film's tone indulges in too much {{comedic sociopathy}} and {{black comedy}} for Sander to truly be taken seriously) |
| 372 | * ''Film/District9'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1508#comment-37678 Piet Smit]] (not as heinous as other villains in the movie) |
| 373 | * ''Film/{{Dredd}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3826#comment-95643 Madeleine "Ma-Ma" Madrigal]] (revealed in a tie-in comic to have had a lover she actually loved) |
| 374 | * ''Film/DustDevil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9694#comment-242340 The Dust Devil]] (implied to be no worse than others of his kind) |
| 375 | * ''Film/EnemyMine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10798#comment-269950 Stubbs]] (tries to avenge his little brother's death) |
| 376 | * ''Film/TheEqualizer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9915 Nicolai Itchenko, aka Teddy Rensen]] (outclassed by Vincent Quaranta from [[Film/TheEqualizer3 the third movie]]) |
| 377 | * ''Film/TheExpendables'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=389#comment-9725 James Munroe]] (lacks the heinousness of the other villains in the series) |
| 378 | * ''Film/{{Extraction}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=180#comment-4488 Amir Asif]] (his regular abuse and torment of his child soldiers is not explicit enough and his wrecking the city is too indirect a result of his men following his orders; not heinous enough otherwise) |
| 379 | * ''Film/{{Firewall}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=539#comment-13455 Bill Cox]] (not heinous enough for the genre) |
| 380 | * ''[[Film/GodzillaFinalWars Final Wars]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11572#comment-289290 Keizer Ghidorah/Monster X]] (the majority of its heinousness is FridgeHorror and Controller X did worse) |
| 381 | * ''Film/FirstKnight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11134#comment-278342 Malagant]] (doesn't pass the baseline, since his attacks on villages are never shown to kill anyone) |
| 382 | * ''Film/{{The Fly|1958}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6675#comment-166864 Alan Hines]], from sequel ''Film/ReturnOfTheFly'' and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8478#comment-211944 Dr. Anton Bartok]] from [[Film/TheFlyII sequel]] to [[Film/TheFly1986 1986 remake]] (both do nothing heinous enough to qualify for this trope) |
| 383 | * ''Film/TheForgottenBattle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=510#comment-12735 Oberst Berghof and Pim Den Oever]] (their crimes and oppression are not shown in full detail and Oever didnt rape Tuntje) |
| 384 | * ''Film/{{Furie}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=225#comment-5607 Thanh Soi]] (prequel gives her a sad backstory and shows she loves her sisters) |
| 385 | * ''Film/TheGentlemen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9512#comment-237793 Dry Eye]] (both crimes that may have helped him count or that he had a part in are not fleshed out enough and his attempted rape of Rosalind is not enough by itself) |
| 386 | * ''Film/GranTorino'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9355#comment-233874 Spider]] (doesn't stand out from the rest of his gang) |
| 387 | * ''Film/HarryBrown'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=156#comment-3884 Noel Winters]] (genuinely cares about his friends and wants to avenge their deaths) |
| 388 | * ''Film/{{Heat}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12886#comment-322129 Waingro]] (heavily outclassed by Otis Wardell, the villain in the sequel novel) |
| 389 | * ''Film/HellHouseLLC'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=556#comment-13879 Andrew Tully]] (''[[Film/HellHouseLLCOriginsTheCarmichaelManor Origins]]'' gives him a tragic backstory) |
| 390 | * ''Film/Hellraiser2022'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=249#comment-6209 Trevor]] (has an EvenEvilHasStandards moment concerning Colin and feels remorse for working with Voight) |
| 391 | * ''Film/HighRisk'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=517#comment-12920 The Doctor]] (tries to avenge his brother) |
| 392 | * ''Film/TheHumanCentipede'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55650 Dr. Josef Heiter]] (TorturePorn that exists for shock value) |
| 393 | * ''Film/IAmMother'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8504#comment-212579 Mother]] (never goes against her programming despite her atrocities, and cares for her daughter) |
| 394 | * ''Film/{{Irreversible}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4483#comment-112075 Le Tenia]] (only commits one rape, as graphic and brutal as it is) |
| 395 | * ''Film/TheJackal'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2366#comment-59137 The Jackal]] (lets a hostage go with no indication of pragmatism) |
| 396 | * ''Film/JackTheRipper1976'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8357#comment-208925 Dennis Orloff/Jack the Ripper]] (portrayed sympathetically) |
| 397 | * ''Film/JonahHex2010'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11875#comment-296873 Quentin Turnbull]] (shown to genuinely care about his son despite the writing of the film making it more unclear) |
| 398 | * ''Jumping Ship'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2056#comment-51376 Frakes]] (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy) |
| 399 | * ''Film/KamenRiderHibikiAndTheSevenSenki'': Hitotsumi (hot heinous enough for the baseline standard) |
| 400 | * ''Film/{{Karla}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9252#comment-231289 Paul Bernardo]] (work deemed tasteless exploitation) |
| 401 | * ''Film/{{Kidnap}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12719#comment-317974 Terry and Margo Vickey]] (care about each other) |
| 402 | * ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' (theatrical cut): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3539#comment-88471 Raynald de Chatillion]] (deemed overshadowed by Guy du Lusignan) |
| 403 | * ''Film/KungFuHustle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9077#comment-226906 Brother Sum]] (PlayedForLaughs and fails the baseline standard) |
| 404 | * ''Film/TheLastKingOfScotland'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=3#comment-52 Idi Amin]] (shows genuine care towards Garrigan) |
| 405 | * ''Film/LeaveHerToHeaven'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6531#comment-163269 Ellen Berent]] (fails the baseline standard) |
| 406 | * ''Film/{{Leatherface}}'': |
| 407 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9843#comment-246072 Verna Sawyer]] (genuinely cares for her family) |
| 408 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5788#comment-144684 Ike]] (ambiguously cares for his mother) |
| 409 | * ''Film/{{Machete}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6243#comment-156068 Rogelio Torrez]] (doesn't stand out amongst his cohorts, and is significantly outheinoused by Voz) |
| 410 | * ''Film/MaleficentMistressOfEvil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=218#comment-5447 Queen Ingrith]] (implied to be motivated by her brother's death) |
| 411 | * ''Film/MercuryRising'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=546#comment-13626 Lt. Colonel Nicholas Kudrow]] (barely heinous enough; lets an innocent go when there's no pragmatic reason to) |
| 412 | * ''Mr. Accident'' (2000): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=381#comment-9504 Duxton Chevalier]] (only committed one murder and attempted three, additionally getting people addicted was deemed not horrific enough in execution. He also was not as taken seriously as the writeup made him out to be) |
| 413 | * ''Film/{{Mothra}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2940#comment-73487 Clark Nelson]] (too generic) |
| 414 | * ''Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12755#comment-318875 John Cassetti]] (doesn't pass the baseline due to not having the established pattern of his other versions) |
| 415 | * ''Film/MySpy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11311#comment-282769 Victor Marquez]] (shows affection towards his brother's dog) |
| 416 | * ''Film/MysticsInBali'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12407#310166 The Queen of Leak]] (ruled insufficiently heinous for the horror genre) |
| 417 | * ''Film/{{Nightbooks}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11275#comment-281873 Natacha]] (has a FreudianExcuse of being kidnapped and enslaved by a WickedWitch) |
| 418 | * ''Film/{{Novecento}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12338#comment-308427 Attila Mellanchini]] (cares about his lover, defends her against the mob and is horrified when they cut off her hair) |
| 419 | * ''Film/{{Orphan}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12909#comment-322709 Esther]] (displays genuine redeeming qualities and is portrayed sympathetically in [[Film/OrphanFirstKill the prequel]]) |
| 420 | * ''Film/PuppetMaster'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9290#comment-232241 Major Kraus]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Toulon) |
| 421 | * ''Film/RamboLastBlood'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=558#comment-13930 Hugo Martinez]] (upset at his brother's death) |
| 422 | * ''Film/Rampage2009'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2725#comment-68105 Bill Williamson]] (has a lover and child in the third movie) |
| 423 | * ''Film/RebirthOfMothra'': Desghidorah (out-heinoused by Grand King Ghidorah in the third movie, spends the whole movie under mind control) |
| 424 | * ''Film/RedZoneCuba'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9223#comment-230567 Griffin]] (it was agreed that he did have redeeming qualities and that he wasn't bad enough compared to other characters in the film) |
| 425 | * ''Film/ReservoirDogs'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9199#comment-229963 Vic Vega, aka Mr. Blonde]] (has a genuine friendship with his cohorts and is genuinely loyal to his boss) |
| 426 | * ''Film/TheRiverWild'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12122#comment-303026 Wade]] (doesn't pass the baseline for {{thriller}} films) |
| 427 | * ''Rocky Handsome'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303548 Kevin Ferriera]] (indicated to care about his brother) |
| 428 | * ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'': |
| 429 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1301#comment-32518 Mark Hoffman]] (his StartOfDarkness happened due to seeking revenge for his sister's death) |
| 430 | ** ''Film/SawII'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=623#comment-15554 Xavier Chavez]] (murderous, but fails to match the series' high heinous standard due to not coming anywhere near close to Jigsaw and his apprentices) |
| 431 | * ''Film/Scarface1983'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5994#comment-149839 Alejandro Sosa]] (wasn't aware of his murder of children and flunks the HS compared to Tony Montana) |
| 432 | * ''Film/ASerbianFilm'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55645 Vukmir]] (exploitation and TorturePorn for shock value) |
| 433 | * ''Film/SherlockHolmes1932'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9149#comment-228716 Professor James Moriarty]] (insufficient heinousness in general) |
| 434 | * ''Film/SpenserConfidential'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=166#comment-4126 Driscoll]] (not heinous enough) |
| 435 | * ''Film/StakeLand'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3973#comment-99324 Jebediah Loven]] (loves his son) |
| 436 | * ''Film/SurvivingTheGame'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8942#comment-223541 Thomas Burns and Walter Cole]] (care for each other) |
| 437 | * ''Film/TimeAfterTime'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=535#comment-13372 John Leslie Stevenson]] (hesitates when asked to spare the main character's love interest and does not pursue her when she escapes) |
| 438 | * ''Film/TotalRecall1990'': Vilos Cohaagen (had a genuine friendship with Carl Hauser and was upset he was not coming back [[note]]The version from the Creator/DCComics adaptation got approved as it eliminates this redeeming feature[[/note]]) |
| 439 | * ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2124#comment-53093 Dylan Gould]] (unlike his Creator/{{IDW|Publishing}} counterpart, the extent of his involvement with the Decepticons is not fleshed out enough to make him stand out) |
| 440 | * ''[[Film/UltramanGingaSTheMovieShowdownThe10UltraBrothers Ultraman Ginga]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=541#comment-13519 Etelgar]] (the destruction of Planet Zandt is part of a FalseMemories sequence--in actuality, the planet's fine--and his other deeds are more generic for {{toku}} standards) |
| 441 | * ''Film/UncleSam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4923#comment-123073 Sergeant Sam Harper]] (insufficiently heinous for a slasher villain, genuinely insane, and has a PetTheDog moment with a child) |
| 442 | * ''Film/{{Virtuosity}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11739#comment-293452 Dr. Darrel Lindenmeyer]] (nowhere near heinous enough compared to SID) |
| 443 | * ''Film/WhiteHouseDown'': Eli Raphaelson (gave Cale his job working for him because Cale saved his nephew) |
| 444 | * ''Film/{{Willow}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=143#comment-3565 Queen Bavmorda]] ([[Series/Willow2022 series]] shows her to have been brainwashed by, and less heinous than the Crone) |
| 445 | * ''Film/WouldYouRather'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11093#comment-277309 Shephard Lambrick]] (shows genuine disgust at his son attempting to rape someone and follows through on his promise to spare the winner of his game) |
| 446 | [[/folder]] |
| 447 | |
| 448 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 449 | * ''Literature/AgentPendergast'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3193#comment-79820 Diogenes Pendergast]] (redeems himself in an attempt to connect with a woman he sincerely loves) |
| 450 | * ''Literature/AlexRider'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10209#comment-255222 Winston Yu]] (loves his mother) |
| 451 | * ''Literature/ArcOfAScythe'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7692#comment-192288 Scythe Goddard]] (was later shown to regret killing his parents) |
| 452 | * ''Literature/AssassinsCreedForsaken'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9916#comment-247895 Reginald Birch]] (his only unique crime is selling Jennifer as a SexSlave, so he does not stand out enough) |
| 453 | * ''Literature/BestServedCold'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=474#comment-11837 Benna Murcatto]] (his actions don't stand out in the franchise, and he's indicated to love his sister) |
| 454 | * ''The Book That Is Not Written'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2061#comment-51503 Valentine Day]] (work was discovered to not exist) |
| 455 | * ''Literature/{{Circleverse}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9371#comment-234263 Alzena and Nurhar]] (have agency issues from using unmagic) |
| 456 | * ''Literature/TheCrowTheLazarusHeart'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12928#comment-323193 Jordan/Joseph Lethe]] (indicated to be genuinely insane) |
| 457 | * ''Literature/TheDarkestMinds'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=3#comment-62 President Gray]] (a sequel novel has him show some genuine care for his family) |
| 458 | * ''Literature/DateALive'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2419#comment-60454 Minerva Liddell]] (no evidence that she actually raped and killed children as her writeup stated, and her actual crimes are too generic despite her sadism) |
| 459 | * ''Literature/DisneyChills'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=138#comment-3448 Dr. Facilier]] (crimes are fairly standard for the series, and many villains are far worse than him) |
| 460 | * ''Literature/{{Durarara}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2532#comment-63296 Izumi Ran]] (fails heinous standard and has respect for one of the protagonists) |
| 461 | * ''Edge Of Dark Water'', by Joe R. Lansdale: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=526#comment-13136 Skunk]] (possibly too psychotic to count; we don't see enough of him to know) |
| 462 | * ''Literature/AnEmberInTheAshes'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9548#comment-238694 Commandant Keris Veturia]] (loves her mother) |
| 463 | * ''[[Literature/EmpireDavidDunwoody Empire]]'': |
| 464 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4239#comment-105966 Baron Tetch]] (has a legitimate FreudianExcuse of being brutally beaten and tortured as a teenager by Addison) |
| 465 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4240#comment-105990 Mike Weissman]] (quantity of rapes isn't confirmed, and other villains have rape and mass murder on their rapsheets) |
| 466 | ** ''Literature/EmpiresEnd'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4240#comment-105990 Nathan Ryland]] (ambiguous agency issues from becoming a zombie) |
| 467 | * ''Literature/{{Fantomas}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9033#comment-225824 Fantômas]] (revealed to love his brother and his daughter) |
| 468 | * ''Fine Dark Line'', by Joe R. Lansdale: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=524#comment-13094 Mr. Chapman]] (loves his pet dog, and while he kills it, he does so regretfully) |
| 469 | * ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7177#comment-179414 Lijah Cuu]] (fails the astronomically high heinous standard of ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', where heinousness is measured by the millions at an absolute minimum, and often by the billions or even trillions) |
| 470 | * ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8562#comment-214036 The Goblin Lord]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil) |
| 471 | * ''Literature/GoosebumpsHorrorLand'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11347#comment-283664 Karloff Mennis/the Menace]] (cares about his second face and refers to it as "friend") |
| 472 | * ''Literature/TheGreenMile'': |
| 473 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=25#comment-620 William "Wild Bill" Wharton]] (not as heinous as the other Creator/StephenKing villains[[note]]His [[Film/TheGreenMile film]] version still counts, though.[[/note]]) |
| 474 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=85#comment-2107 Percy Wetmore]] (not as heinous as Wild Bill despite having more resources, and also is horrified during Delacroix's botched execution) |
| 475 | * ''Literature/TheGrishaTrilogy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12005#comment-300106 The Darkling]] (likely cares about his mother) |
| 476 | * ''Literature/GrizzlyTalesForGruesomeKids'': |
| 477 | ** "The Black Knight": [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11796#comment-294878 Prince Egor]] (all his crimes are generic for tyrants with no explicit mass death, and the setting has too much BlackComedy for someone to stand out) |
| 478 | ** ''Fearsome Tales for Fiendish Kids'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5613#comment-140308 Farmer Tregowan]] (actions are meant to be seen as karmic, and other villains do far worse) |
| 479 | * ''The Hangman's Revolution'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12808#320180 Colonel Clayton Box]] (genuinely cares about his mother) |
| 480 | * ''Literature/HonorHarrington'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11114#comment-277850 Randy Steilman]] (only crimes are uncompleted murders and being a DirtyCoward) |
| 481 | * ''Literature/HowToTrainYourDragon'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=195#comment-4869 Excellinor The Witch]] (shown to somewhat care about Alvin's death within her VillainousBreakdown) |
| 482 | * ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8677#comment-216902 President Coriolanus Snow]] (the prequel novel ''Literature/TheBalladOfSongbirdsAndSnakes'' reveals him to be a WellIntentionedExtremist who cared for his family and his lover Lucy Gray) |
| 483 | * ''Literature/InDeath'': |
| 484 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7633#comment-190818 Richard Troy and Patrick Roarke]] (neither come close to the series' high heinous standard) |
| 485 | ** ''Born In Death'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10076#comment-251878 Madeline Bullock]] (Wilkey outheinouses her in the same niche) |
| 486 | * ''Literature/{{IT}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=85#comment-2115 Patrick Hockstetter]] (fails the standard set by IT despite a lack of resources) |
| 487 | * ''Literature/JackReacher'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4670#comment-116741 Julia Lamarr]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4671#comment-116752 the Wilson brothers]] (don't stand out enough given the series' high heinous standard) |
| 488 | * ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=90#comment-2249 Liu Hong]] (fails the heinous standard, especially when the protagonists did way worse before seeking redemption and demons are treated as capable of moral agency as a result) |
| 489 | * ''Film/TheJungleBook2016'' {{novelization}}: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=263#comment-6556 Shere Khan]] (not heinous enough) |
| 490 | * ''Literature/KushielsLegacy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=336#comment-8378 Mahrkhagir]] (traumatized at a young age by his family's death; seems to love Phedre as much as someone like him can) |
| 491 | * ''Literature/LAConfidential'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12540#comment-313493 Captain Dudley Liam Smith]] (develops a genuine friendship with Hideo and mourns his death in the prequels) |
| 492 | * ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2810#comment-70237 Vendes Baenre]] (fails the heinous standard) |
| 493 | * ''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5706#comment-142635 Roger]] (doesn't stand out enough from the other characters, possibly shows remorse at the end, and the theme of the book is that everyone can become savage under the right circumstances) |
| 494 | * ''Literature/MarvelsSpiderManHostileTakeover'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=335#comment-8374 Michael Bingham/The Blood Spider]] (never subverted his care for his mom and friend, also possibly too insane) |
| 495 | * ''[[Literature/TheMissingJaneCasey The Missing]]'' (Jane Casey): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11827#comment-295662 Michael Shepherd]] (not heinous enough compared to Derek Keane after Derek's crimes were determined to not be OffstageVillainy) |
| 496 | * ''More Bones'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11796#comment-294882 The cruel baron]] (crimes are generic for a tyrant, especially compared to Lord Hatto) |
| 497 | * ''[[Literature/PhryneFisher Murder in the Dark]]'': "The Joker" (writeup had too little information) |
| 498 | * ''[[Literature/PhryneFisher Murder on the Ballarat Train]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2944#comment-73585 Henry Burton]] (his crimes are OffstageVillainy) |
| 499 | * ''Literature/NadiaStafford'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=156#comment-3894 Wilkes]] (fails the standard of the series) |
| 500 | * ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=336#comment-8380 O'Brien]] (is just a cog in the machine in the novel's dystopian setting) |
| 501 | * ''Literature/{{NOS4A2}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12978#comment-324434 Bing Partridge]] (genuinely insane, regrets killing his mother, and is genuinely loyal to Manx) |
| 502 | * ''Literature/OliverTwist'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10100#comment-252493 Bill Sikes]] (doesn't pass the baseline and is indicated to have remorse for killing Nancy) |
| 503 | * ''Literature/ThePowerOfFive'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12443#comment-311065 Colton Banes]] (fails the standard of the series to many villains that do worse than him, one even with fewer resources) |
| 504 | * ''Literature/RWBYAfterTheFall'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8961#comment-224021 Carmine Esclados and Bertilak Celadon]] (both developed redeeming qualities in the second book and were outheinoused by the second book's antagonists) |
| 505 | * ''Literature/ScaryStoriesToTellInTheDark'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=881#comment-22009 Samuel Blunt]] from the story, "Wonderful Sausage" (story is very barebones and lacks substantial plot) |
| 506 | * ''Literature/SecondApocalypse'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3625#comment-90606 Aurax]] (cares for his brother Aurang) |
| 507 | * ''Literature/ShadowMan'', by Cody [=McFadyen=]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=447#comment-11173 Jack Jr.]] (father was a monster who groomed him into being a SerialKiller; arguably cared for his mother) |
| 508 | * ''Literature/SkulduggeryPleasant'': |
| 509 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=339#comment-8459 Leibniz!Lord Vile]] (apparently cared about his family) |
| 510 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=453#comment-11304 Kitana Kellaway]] (a graphic novel villain outheinouses her at roughly the same tier) |
| 511 | * ''Literature/SnowShark'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=246#comment-6140 General Coy Hall]] (cares for his dog in the sequel) |
| 512 | * ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': |
| 513 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8091#comment-202265 Aerys II]] (''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'' revealed he genuinely mourned his dead son) |
| 514 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2513#comment-62803 Vargo Hoat]] (despite being the leader of the barbaric "Brave Companions," his minion Rorge is far worse) |
| 515 | ** ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=3#comment-71 Lo Bu]] (not given enough characterization to determine properly if he is a WellIntentionedExtremist or not) |
| 516 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': |
| 517 | ** ''Literature/DarthBane'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8660#comment-216493 Darth Bane and Darth Zannah]] (neither of them go the extra mile to stand out in the setting, especially given their tier; Bane is too pragmatic to the point of it being disqualifying) |
| 518 | ** ''Literature/InfernoSquad'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=250#comment-6233 Gideon Hask]] (grieves the deaths of his parents) |
| 519 | ** ''Literature/JediApprentice'' & ''Literature/JediQuest'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9374#comment-234346 Jenna Zan Arbor]] (shows remorse for what she did to her best friend`s son and their friendship seems genuine to an extent) |
| 520 | ** James Kahn's ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' novelization: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=112#comment-2797 Moff Tiann Jerjerrod]] (crimes are too small potatoes by the standards of the work, even for his resource tier; especially since he was not shown to be aware of a planet being populated) |
| 521 | * ''[[Literature/SwordArtOnline Sword Art Online: Progressive]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=367#comment-9163 Morte]] (outdone by Vassago Casals, [=XaXa=] and Johnny Black in his serial killings, and is utimately just a cog in the machine) |
| 522 | * ''Literature/TessOfTheDUrbervilles'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=84#comment-2100 Alec d'Uberville]] (doesn't pass the baseline, even for the time period) |
| 523 | * ''Literature/WarriorCats'': |
| 524 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2829#comment-70723 Tigerstar]] (develops redeeming qualities in the side comics) |
| 525 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=36#comment-888 Scourge]] (shows care for his siblings in a side comic) |
| 526 | * ''Literature/WelkinWeasels'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5751#comment-143751 Magellan]] (most of his crimes are OffstageVillainy) |
| 527 | * ''Wolf Hunt'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9033#comment-225814 Ivan Spinner]] (loves his grandmother) |
| 528 | * ''Literature/WyrdSisters'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=17#comment-411 Lady Felmet]] (most of her crimes of torture are offscreen and she flunks the heinous standard of the series) |
| 529 | [[/folder]] |
| 530 | |
| 531 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 532 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6MltGHO-lE "Alice of Human Sacrifice"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4601#comment-115001 Wonderland Dream]] (song is too ambiguous) |
| 533 | * Music/AvengedSevenfold: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3003#comment-75066 The protagonist of "A Little Piece of Heaven"]] (expresses remorse for his actions and marries his girlfriend after both become zombies; song is also BlackComedy) |
| 534 | * Music/BlueStahli: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=183#comment-4567 "Shoot 'Em Up"]] (the song is actually from the point of view of news media in general, rather than a single reporter as the example claimed, resulting in a lack of individuality) |
| 535 | * Music/CreatureFeature: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=18#comment-429 The protagonist of "Such Horrible Things"]] (fails the baseline for evil deeds, and played for BlackComedy) |
| 536 | * Music/EvelynEvelyn: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=550#comment-13749 Dr. Von Kook]] (not bad enough compared to Boulger) |
| 537 | * Music/HalaCG: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=548#comment-13689 Frisk from "Genocide"]] (believes their actions are necessary for their survival, and has an EvenEvilHasStandards moment in response to Chara attempting to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]]) |
| 538 | * Music/HateEternal: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9271#comment-231771 Unnamed ruler from "Fury Within"]] (crimes are very generically described) |
| 539 | * Music/LegionOfTheDamned: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9271#comment-231771 The Nocturnal Predator]] (too close to RealLife) |
| 540 | * Music/ManOnTheInternet: |
| 541 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8754#comment-218838 Ridley]] (was initially cut due to being too similar to the original manga version; when the similarity rule was lifted, [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16738556630A78599000&page=734#comment-18327 was downvoted again]] due to song lacking substantial plot beyond Ridley boasting about his crimes and sadism) |
| 542 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=290#comment-7249 Marx]] (song lacks substantial plot beyond Marx boasting about his power and sadism) |
| 543 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=508#comment-12687 Dark Samus]] (lacks substantial plot, or even deeds) |
| 544 | * Music/{{Metallica}}: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9242#comment-231050 Phantom Lord]] (not enough personality and his crimes are very generically described) |
| 545 | * Music/TheMisfits: |
| 546 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11196#comment-279898 Narrator of "Last Caress"]] (lacks substantial narrative) |
| 547 | ** "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=501#comment-12513 Jack the Ripper]]" (lacks substantial narrative, and his crimes are described too vaguely) |
| 548 | * Music/NickCave's ''Music/MurderBallads'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4632#comment-115791 Stagger Lee]] (insufficiently heinous) |
| 549 | * Music/TheRollingStones' ''Music/BeggarsBanquet'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11768#comment-294180 The Devil from "Sympathy for the Devil"]] (the crimes he committed are too symbolic and the song treats humanity as equally culpable) |
| 550 | * Music/TheStupendium: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=390#comment-9735 The Bureaucrat]] (doesn't do enough on his own) |
| 551 | * Music/{{Styx}}: Narrator from "A Criminal Mind" (entry was based on lack of remorse for crimes, but the song never elaborates what those crimes were) |
| 552 | * Music/TenaciousD: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=344#comment-8576 Satan]] (PlayedForLaughs) |
| 553 | * Music/WarrenZevon: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2282#comment-57041 Boy from "Excitable Boy"]] (played for BlackComedy) |
| 554 | [[/folder]] |
| 555 | |
| 556 | [[folder:Mythology & Religion]] |
| 557 | * Myth/ClassicalMythology: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10552#comment-263778 Tantalus]] (heavily outclassed by his grandson Atreus) |
| 558 | [[/folder]] |
| 559 | |
| 560 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 561 | * ''TabletopGame/BetrayalAtHouseOnTheHill'': |
| 562 | ** "Creature from the Lake" and "A Little Night's Murder" scenarios: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5276#comment-131887 Traitors]] (neither pass the heinous standard of the tabletop) |
| 563 | ** "Death Doth Find Us All": [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=493#comment-12319 The House]] (agency issues) |
| 564 | * ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons The Book of Vile Darkness]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3851#comment-96269 Dread Emperor]] (lack of characterization) |
| 565 | * ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=459#comment-11466 Kor Phaeron]] (is indicated to genuinely care about Lorgar) |
| 566 | [[/folder]] |
| 567 | |
| 568 | [[folder:Theatre]] |
| 569 | * ''[[https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Chushingura Kamen Rider Chushingura]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8393#comment-209816 Dr. Kira/Kamen Rider Killer]] (fails the heinous standard of the ''Franchise/KamenRider'' franchise, especially in comparison to other villains who do far worse) |
| 570 | * ''Theatre/ThirtyFiveMillimeterAMusicalExhibition'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11978#comment-299443 The Bastard]] (fails the standard to Sara Berry[[note]]who also doesn't count due to being a TragicVillain[[/note]]) |
| 571 | * ''Theatre/WeWillRockYou'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10087#comment-252169 High Commander Khashoggi]] (PlayedForLaughs too often) |
| 572 | [[/folder]] |
| 573 | |
| 574 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 575 | * ''Franchise/AceAttorney'': |
| 576 | ** ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4297#comment-107405 Matt Engarde]] (his crimes don't stand out in the setting, vile as they are[[note]]Additionally, he is also hinted to care about his cat, Shoe. His stage play counterpart does count, however, as he is portrayed in a much more vile manner.[[/note]]) |
| 577 | ** ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=265#comment-6612 Mael Stronghart]] (WellIntentionedExtremist and is implied to feel remose over his actions during his VillainousBreakdown) |
| 578 | * ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=479#comment-11969 Tsumugi Shirogane]] (is indicated to be merely a part of a larger system and her characterization is somewhat ambiguous) |
| 579 | * ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub Plus'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=507#comment-12667 Paula Miner]] (revealed in a hidden file to have a genuinely close friendship with Ive Laster) |
| 580 | * ''VisualNovel/{{Echo}}'': |
| 581 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=322#comment-8037 Echo Entity]] ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16651724710A26447000&page=145#comment-3614 formerly proposed by a ban evader]]; probably MadeOfEvil) |
| 582 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=322#comment-8037 James Hendricks]] (cares for his sister) |
| 583 | * ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=486#comment-12139 Zouken Matou]] (commits most of his atrocities while amnesiac and displays remorse for his crimes once he regains them before his death during certain endings) |
| 584 | * ''VisualNovel/TheUnforgivingFlowersBlossomInTheDeadOfNight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12361#comment-309018 Yoshihito Kanamori]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12361#comment-309021 Nafumi Shintani]] (both fail the high heinous standard -- as bad as they are, other characters regularly commit similar crimes, so theirs do not stand out. Even the AntiHero Higanbana inflicts KarmicRape on a minor villain and a FateWorseThanDeath on others) |
| 585 | * ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'': |
| 586 | ** ''VisualNovel/{{Higurashi|WhenTheyCry}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3456#comment-86384 Teppei Hojo(u)]] (the orphanage headmaster is far worse than him in terms of child abuse[[note]]Additionally, Teppei would later be given redeeming qualities and an arc of rehabilitation in ''Higurashi Sotsu'' following his cut.[[/note]]) |
| 587 | ** ''VisualNovel/{{Umineko|WhenTheyCry}}'': |
| 588 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10788#comment-269689 Bernkastel]] (likely MadeOfEvil, genuinely loves Lambdadelta, and has BlueAndOrangeMorality) |
| 589 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=7714#comment-192831 Black Battler]] (likely MadeOfEvil, genuinely cares for Shannon, and indicated to be a TragicVillain unhappy with his role) |
| 590 | [[/folder]] |
| 591 | |
| 592 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 593 | * ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'': |
| 594 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8646#comment-216129 Dellyn Goblinslayer]] (cared for one of his minions) |
| 595 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2726#comment-68127 Kore]] (brainwashed into becoming evil) |
| 596 | * ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4764#comment-119088 Jack Noir]] (genuinely cares for his three underlings) |
| 597 | * ''Webcomic/SweetHome2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=293#comment-7305 Joon Shin]] (cared about his family) |
| 598 | * ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=450#comment-11244 Lo Po Bia Ren]] (is largely just a proxy of an evil regime) |
| 599 | [[/folder]] |
| 600 | |
| 601 | [[folder:Web Serial Novels or Web Literature]] |
| 602 | * Various {{web serial novel}}s (works were no longer accessible) |
| 603 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/The_Alice_Killings "The Alice Killings"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8341#comment-208505 The Alice Killer]] (lacks a personality and identity is never confirmed) |
| 604 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Beware_the_Good_Samaritan "Beware the Good Samaritan"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9597#comment-239921 Bobby Fields]] (doesn't stand out from the rest of his gang, his raping four girls is OffstageVillainy, and story lacks substantial plot) |
| 605 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Beyond_Redemption "Beyond Redemption"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9598#comment-239932 Lyndon Wesley]] (story lacks substantial plot and nearly all of Lyndon's crimes are OffstageVillainy) |
| 606 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Bloody_Mary "Bloody Mary"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8626#comment-215637 Bloody Mary]] (story is too short) |
| 607 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/9s3p6t/the_boogeyman_house/ "The Boogeyman House"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9605#comment-240123 Uncle Ryan]] (too ambiguous and not enough characterization) |
| 608 | * [[https://www.creepypasta.com/bright-eyes/ "Bright Eyes"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8625#comment-215606 Teddy]] (story doesn't have much depth beyond the protagonist encountering Teddy and then learning that he's a serial killer) |
| 609 | * ''Bring Him Home'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4851#comment-121266 Alfred]] (story lacks a substantial plot) |
| 610 | * [[https://www.wattpad.com/story/192748696-cinquante-nuances-de-rouge Cinquante "Nuances de Rouge"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8640#comment-215990 J]] (lacks a plot beyond describing J's killings) |
| 611 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Dating_Game "Dating Game"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1843#comment-46070 The wife]] (story has little plot and mainly exists for shock value) |
| 612 | * "Literature/DayOfTheChoosing": [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8628#comment-215694 All the Rest]] (lacks substantial plot beyond the protagonist describing the horror of their situation and getting eaten by the antagonist; story was written for the thread as an injoke) |
| 613 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/48z2fn/the_day_i_lost_my_faith/ "The Day I Lost My Faith"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4599#comment-114964 The Stranger]] (lacks a substantial plot and reads like an atheist AuthorTract) |
| 614 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Entombed "Entombed"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9604#comment-240095 Harn]] (lacks substantial plot besides describing what Harn did) |
| 615 | * ''Literature/FaceTheStorm'': "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=378#comment-9439 Q]]" (more of an idea than an individual and later PlayedForLaughs) |
| 616 | * ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3223#comment-80551 President Donald Rumsfeld]] (insufficiently heinous in comparison to Douglas Coe) |
| 617 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP9l812EDoc "Ilsa Koch"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9236#comment-230879 Ilsa Koch]] (lacks characterization) |
| 618 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/7d18rj/i_dont_have_a_good_feeling_about_this_one/ "I Don't Have a Good Feeling About This One"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9604#comment-240095 Kristen Cullen]] (story lacks a plot beyond showing how evil Kristen is) |
| 619 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/In_Heaven "In Heaven"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9595#comment-239854 God]] (work does not have a substantial plot besides GodIsEvil) |
| 620 | * ''Literature/JeffTheKiller'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1205#comment-30107 Randy]] (lacked sufficient personality and was less heinous than Jeff himself) |
| 621 | * "Literature/MrWidemouth": [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9596#comment-239883 Mr. Widemouth]] (story is very barebones and lacks substantial plot) |
| 622 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/My_Brother_and_I_Kidnapped_a_Woman_for_Thanksgiving "My Brother and I Kidnapped a Woman for Thanksgiving"]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9583#comment-239571 Mrs. Paterson]] (story is too barebones and Mrs. Paterson is the only character who really receives characterization) |
| 623 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/dok2ks/my_father_was_a_serial_killer/ "My Father Was a Serial Killer"]] ([[http://archive.is/CI0Tk archive]]): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9595#comment-239867 Abomination "Abby"'s father]] (lacks a substantial plot besides showing the murders and abuse of Abby's father) |
| 624 | * ''Literature/TheNeverkindSaga'': |
| 625 | ** ''Literature/NoneTooHoly'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7850#comment-196242 Pijavica]] (incestuous rape and child murder are not unique to her) |
| 626 | ** ''Literature/GirlsOnFilm'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8910#comment-222749 Wallace Malcolm Hargrove]] (has more resources than some of the human villains who outheinous him and isn't as involved in his snuff film ring as his son is) |
| 627 | ** ''Literature/InTheCastleOfTheNight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8907#comment-222668 Count Nicholai Gabriel von Krolock]] (other villains have attempted genocide/mass murder with similar resources as his) |
| 628 | ** ''Literature/TheRedMonarch'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8907#comment-222668 Vladik Cardinous]] (several other villains have attempted omnicide and worse) |
| 629 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsutEfGzF9c "Nyarlathotep Visited My Town"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9605#comment-240120 Nyarlathotep]] (story lacks plot beyond Nyarlathotep tormenting a small town) |
| 630 | * ''Literature/TheRake'': The Rake (while other versions of the character have qualified, the original version was deemed too animalistic to count, as nothing specifically indicates that he thinks along human lines) |
| 631 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Reunion_with_the_Angel_of_Death "Reunion with the Angel of Death"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8628#comment-215676 Josef Mengele]] (lacks a plot beyond Mengele's former victims tormenting him) |
| 632 | * ''Sally, Play With Me'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1843#comment-46069 Uncle Johnny]] (tasteless shock value, with the rape scene only existing to be "edgy") |
| 633 | * ''Website/SCPFoundation'': |
| 634 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=227#comment-5655 Jeser]] (crimes aren't given enough focus) |
| 635 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=4737#comment-118414 SCP-001 (Kalinin's Proposal) (Past and Future)]] (his race is AlwaysChaoticEvil) |
| 636 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9614#comment-240333 SCP-352 (Baba Yaga), SCP-1790 (Layla)]], and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 AM]] (all of them lack characterization and their stories boil down to "horrible monsters doing horrible things") |
| 637 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3679#comment-91956 SCP-3148 (Tranquility)]] (lacks sufficient characterization) |
| 638 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=64#comment-1589 SCP-4666 (the Yule Man)]] (doesn't have enough characterization to determine if it operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality or not) |
| 639 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9582#comment-239543 Corporal Lawrence]] (too ambiguous and lacks personality) |
| 640 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/7847x5/three_years_in_hell_part_1/ "Three Years in Hell"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4603#comment-115064 Jack]] (story lacks substantial plot besides Jack torturing Elisa) |
| 641 | * [[https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Through_the_Trees "Through the Trees"]] and [[http://seedeater.blogspot.com/ "Seed Eater Experiences"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9592#comment-239800 The Seed Eater]] (lacks personality) |
| 642 | * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/781iy8/welcome_to_halloween_camp/ "Welcome to Halloween Camp"]]: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4599#comment-114964 Seamus Pommier]] (lacks a substantial plot besides the protagonist getting terrorized by Pommier) |
| 643 | [[/folder]] |
| 644 | |
| 645 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 646 | * ''WebVideo/CounterMonkey'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11403#comment-285056 Tempus Thales]] (story amounts to a person describing a plot) |
| 647 | * ''WebVideo/{{Oxventure}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12633#comment-315808 Vex]] (not bad enough since most of his crimes are to animals who aren't indicated to be sapient) |
| 648 | * ''WebVideo/SuburbanKnights'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4465#comment-111618 Malachite]] (PlayedForLaughs too often) |
| 649 | [[/folder]] |
| 650 | |
| 651 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 652 | * ''WesternAnimation/AlienatorsEvolutionContinues'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11319#comment-282962 SCOPES]] (cares about his race) |
| 653 | * ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven: The Series'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=383#comment-9559 Belladonna]] (entry mostly relied on FridgeHorror, and onscreen crimes aren't nearly enough on their own) |
| 654 | * ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': |
| 655 | ** ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1301#comment-32505 Arkady Duvall]] (most of his crimes are OffstageVillainy and he fails the series' high heinous standard) |
| 656 | ** ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Beyond]]'': |
| 657 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11333#comment-283306 Derek Powers/Blight]] (a 2011 comic book continuation shows that he had grown to care for his new partner French) |
| 658 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9820#comment-245491 Spellbinder]] (isn't heinous enough since other villains in the show have similar deeds on their rapsheet) |
| 659 | * ''Franchise/Ben10'': |
| 660 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10831#comment-270775 Zombozo]] (fails the high heinous standard especially when compared to other villains who regularly attempt mass genocide, and does not stack up with galactic and universal conquerors like Vilgax, Zs'Skayr or Aggregor by a long shot) |
| 661 | ** [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 2016 series]]: |
| 662 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10862#comment-271540 Lord Decibel]] (threat level diminished and becomes too silly after his first appearance) |
| 663 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10861#comment-271523 Tim Buktu]] (PlayedForLaughs) |
| 664 | *** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10861#comment-271523 Michael Morningstar]] (life-draining powers not depicted as actually causing harm) |
| 665 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'': |
| 666 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1699#comment-42466 Ed Wuncler, Sr.]] (his son is worse, and the show indulges in too much BlackComedy to qualify any keepers) |
| 667 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4390#comment-109749 Ed Wuncler II]] (played seriously unlike most villains, but his murders are OffstageVillainy. Even with a visible murder count, he still fails to stack up to the ComedicSociopathy standards set up by the show) |
| 668 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1699#comment-42457 Lamilton Taeshawn]] (played for BlackComedy) |
| 669 | * ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10252#comment-256283 Dark Danny]] (doesn't stand out in heinousness compared to other villains on the show, and has questionable moral agency[[note]]Additionally, ''ComicBook/DannyPhantomAGlitchInTime'' would give him redeeming qualities despite disproving both of these mitigating factors.[[/note]]) |
| 670 | * ''WesternAnimation/DragonsRidersOfBerk'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2051#comment-51266 Dagur the Deranged]] (is shown to care for his sister, and it's revealed that some of his more evil deeds like the murder of his father were just made up; later pulls a full HeelFaceTurn) |
| 671 | * ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=460#comment-11495 Jeffrey Fecalman]] (while he is played seriously, his actions fail to compare to the ComedicSociopathy that is a staple of the show's humor) |
| 672 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10028#comment-250693 Thailog]] (fails the heinous standard when compared to other villains from the show) |
| 673 | * ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1919#comment-47956 Hunter Cain]] (loved his wife) |
| 674 | * ''WesternAnimation/GodzillaTheSeries'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=424#comment-10587 Maxmillian Spiel]] (most of the information in his proposal was inaccurate and relied too much on FridgeHorror; his actual crimes are much more generic) |
| 675 | * ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8420#comment-210492 Atrocitus]] (his anger at his home planet being destroyed was deemed to be based on legitimate care) |
| 676 | * ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8755#comment-218867 The Joker]] (winds up with a love interest and her kids when in an amnesiac state, and is shown to genuinely care for them when he regains his memories) |
| 677 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Inhumanoids}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=544#comment-13592 Blackthorne Shore]] ([[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes loves his sister]]) |
| 678 | * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'': |
| 679 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=93#comment-2310 Killer Frost]] (fails heinous standard) |
| 680 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=93#comment-2310 Devil Ray]] (murders are OffstageVillainy) |
| 681 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=48#comment-1197 Yakone]] (OffstageVillainy and fails heinous standard to Ozai) |
| 682 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfTarzan'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9981#comment-249522 Queen La]] (her habit of killing men who reject her isn't focused on enough, and she mostly kills people who are trying to attack her) |
| 683 | * ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11230#comment-280726 Venom]] (was created to be a living weapon by the other symbiotes, and has a valid FreudianExcuse of being genuinely enraged by All-Black's murder) |
| 684 | * ''WesternAnimation/MightyMax'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10110#comment-252749 Spike]] (doesn't pass the baseline standard) |
| 685 | * ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'': |
| 686 | ** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11430#comment-285737 Lavan]] (too generic in execution to pass the baseline standard) |
| 687 | ** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11431#comment-285762 Tirac]] (while his threat to decapitate Spike is shockingly dark and explicit, it is still just a threat, and his TheNightThatNeverEnds plot, along with turning ponies into monsters, is played too generically to be truly heinous) |
| 688 | * ''WesternAnimation/ProjectGeeker'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11500#comment-287480 Mister Moloch]] (too comedic and his threat of genocide is only a threat) |
| 689 | * ''WesternAnimation/SgtSavageAndHisScreamingEagles'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9277#comment-231923 "General Blitz" Krieger]] (flunks the heinous standard) |
| 690 | * ''WesternAnimation/SolarOpposites'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10217#comment-255425 The Duke]] (grows to care for Cherie and her baby and gets a RedemptionEqualsDeath in season 2) |
| 691 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': |
| 692 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=25#comment-606 Victor Falco/Rat King]] (shows genuine care towards his [[TheDragon dragon]] Aristotle) |
| 693 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=360#comment-8995 Count Dracula]] (relied too much on FridgeHorror to breach the high standard compared to other villains) |
| 694 | ** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12994#comment-324848 Kavaxas]] (not heinous enough for the series, where genocide isn't uncommon and even larger rapsheets rely on fewer resources) |
| 695 | * ''WesternAnimation/TotallySpies'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5499#comment-137456 Ariel]] (her onscreen crimes are not sufficient enough to qualify) |
| 696 | * ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'': |
| 697 | ** ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Prime]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=666#comment-16629 Megatron]] (pulls a HeelFaceTurn after getting freed from Unicron's control) |
| 698 | ** ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersWarForCybertronTrilogy War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11011#comment-275263 Megatron]] (teams up with the Autobots in the final battle and then leaves them in peace; his peaceful departure is portrayed as genuine) |
| 699 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Trollhunters}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9036#comment-225899 Morgana]] (is revealed to have a sympathetic backstory and gets redeemed) |
| 700 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=323#comment-8073 Professor Richard Impossible]] (PlayedForLaughs too often) |
| 701 | [[/folder]] |
| 702 | |
| 703 | [[folder:Other Media]] |
| 704 | * ''WebOriginal/TheArknMythos'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5518#comment-137942 De'ebolus, né Lucius]] (is too laid-back for a GodOfEvil) |
| 705 | * ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3694#comment-92326 The Dalek Time Controller]] (Daleks are all bred to be pure evil and there's no indication that the DTC is an exception) |
| 706 | * ''Podcast/DiceFunk'''s "[[Recap/DiceFunkSeason4Valentine Valentine]]" (Season 4): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=507#comment-12659 Saint Luna]] (not heinous enough considering his resources) |
| 707 | * ''DarthWiki/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8225#comment-205605 The Blood Red King]] (likely MadeOfEvil) |
| 708 | * ''Roleplay/TheInsaneQuestOfUnfathomableRandomness'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5816#comment-145385 Sola Soulhawk]] (was grandfathered in and never property vetted) |
| 709 | * ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIIRomancingTheThrone'' or ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIIRomancingTheStones'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=143#comment-3553 The Father]] (uncertainty over which game he comes from) |
| 710 | * ''WebAnimation/MetaRunner'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12988#comment-324693 Derek Lucks]] (fails the heinous standard compared to James Sheridan, despite the latter having fewer resources) |
| 711 | * ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=487#comment-12155 Cinder Fall]] (her FreudianExcuse of being abused by her stepfamily as a child still holds up and is implied to feel remorse for killing Rhodes) |
| 712 | * ''Film/Scream2'' ([[http://www.scriptdelivery.net/source/resources/screenplays/scream2.pdf original script]]): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=211#5270 Derek & Hallie]] (insufficiently heinous) |
| 713 | * ''Film/TheStrangeThingAboutTheJohnsons'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=116#comment-2884 Isaiah Johnson]] (seemed to mourn his father) |
| 714 | * ''[=TalesFromTheSpidersWeb=]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=239#comment-5968 Clowny]] (possible agency issues) |
| 715 | * The ''Film/WolfCreek'' mythos: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=323#comment-8072 Mick Taylor]] (backstory is too tragic and shows remorse for killing his sister) |
| 716 | [[/folder]] |
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