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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a supposedly corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of. Some of the fandom goes further, finding Tekkadan as a whole so badly that others with questionable morals such as Ein, Galan, and Iok are seen as heroic in comparison and are quick to boo at their deaths. It does not help that in the first season Tekkadan helped a space colony of terrorists that willfully murder their own civilians during Gjallahorn's sting operation, an arc received so badly it caused outrage in the Japanese fandom. The second season included Tekkadan, specifically Mikazuki, murderering an innocent banker.

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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a supposedly corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Bauduin, Carta Issue and Julieta Juris are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three four characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, And out from the four characters, Julieta is the only one who not only stayed alive in the end but also became critical of the people who she served and realized that not everything is black or white. By the time the ending rolls in, [[spoiler:Rustal Elion crushed Tekkadan from existence, reformed Gjallarhorn has lost into a democratic organization and gave Mars their independence which also includes helping Kudelia abolishing the Human Debris system. Many viewers considered this the best scenario not only truly moral characters we know of. Some of the fandom goes further, finding because it's realistic but it's unlikely for Tekkadan as a whole so badly that others with questionable morals such as Ein, Galan, and Iok are seen as heroic in comparison and are quick to boo at their deaths. It does not help that for win against the largest fleet in the first season entire system. Many also considered Rustal as a better leader than [=McGillis=] since despite using illegal weapons and black propaganda, he never attacks any civilian and never bothers to go after Kudelia regardless of her affiliation with Tekkadan helped a space colony of terrorists that willfully murder their own civilians during Gjallahorn's sting operation, an arc received so badly it caused outrage which is also implied in the Japanese fandom. The second season included Tekkadan, specifically Mikazuki, murderering an innocent banker.epilogue that he's aware of the Tekkadan survivors working for Kudelia but has no intention on going after them]].
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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a supposedly corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of. Some of the fandom goes further, finding Tekkadan as a whole so badly that others with questionable morals such as Ein, Galan, and Iok are seen as heroic in comparison and are quick to boo at their deaths.

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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a supposedly corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of. Some of the fandom goes further, finding Tekkadan as a whole so badly that others with questionable morals such as Ein, Galan, and Iok are seen as heroic in comparison and are quick to boo at their deaths. It does not help that in the first season Tekkadan helped a space colony of terrorists that willfully murder their own civilians during Gjallahorn's sting operation, an arc received so badly it caused outrage in the Japanese fandom. The second season included Tekkadan, specifically Mikazuki, murderering an innocent banker.
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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of.

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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a supposedly corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of. Some of the fandom goes further, finding Tekkadan as a whole so badly that others with questionable morals such as Ein, Galan, and Iok are seen as heroic in comparison and are quick to boo at their deaths.
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* In ''Manga/DGray-man'' a lot of fans root for the noah family over the Black Order. This is helped by the fact that most Noah are affably evil. This is only increased when, by the events of D.Gray-Man Hallow,[[spoiler: ''very nasty'' stuff is revealed about the already gray Black Order that make some readers completely loose any sympathy for them and outright wanting the [[KillAllHumans humanity wiping]] Noah to win. Even further, the hero is revealed to be a noah himself and is imprisoned, branded for treased and forced to go AWOL by the Black Order]]
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** Even fans who genuinely like Saitama and prefer him to his opponents may cheer for the villains anyway in the hopes that he'll finally get the WorthyOpponent that he's been looking for.
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* Considering that Saitama of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is an InvincibleHero who can defeat any opponent [[MeaningfulName with one punch]], looks like a particularly bland and plain cue ball, has one of the most understated backstories ever, is just a hero for fun and not because of any moral convictions or admirable ideology and whose sole goal is to get to find a WorthyOpponent, it's really not so hard to root for Boros when he shows up. First of all because, [[ComicallyInvincibleHero given the premise of the series]], all readers know that Boros, though he has been an InvincibleVillain up until now, [[FanOfUnderdog is severely outmatched]]; secondly because he is a {{Badass}} with an awesome design; thirdly because he is NotSoDifferent from Saitama, being a villain who realized that VictoryIsBoring and set out to conquer galaxies just so he could find someone who could put up a good match against him and, finally, because throughout the fight he goes from smug, to genuinely enjoying finally getting to use his full power against an opponent, to increasingly desperate to actually win, all the while Saitama does not even get bruised from Boros' strongest attacks.

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* Considering that Saitama of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is an InvincibleHero who can defeat any opponent [[MeaningfulName with one punch]], looks like a particularly bland and plain cue ball, has one of the most understated backstories ever, is just a hero for fun and not because of any moral convictions or admirable ideology and whose sole goal is to get to find a WorthyOpponent, it's really not so hard to root for Boros when he shows up. First of all because, [[ComicallyInvincibleHero given the premise of the series]], all readers know that Boros, though he has been an InvincibleVillain up until now, [[FanOfUnderdog is severely outmatched]]; secondly because he is a {{Badass}} badass with an awesome design; thirdly because he is NotSoDifferent from Saitama, being a villain who realized that VictoryIsBoring and set out to conquer galaxies just so he could find someone who could put up a good match against him and, finally, because throughout the fight he goes from smug, to genuinely enjoying finally getting to use his full power against an opponent, to increasingly desperate to actually win, all the while Saitama does not even get bruised from Boros' strongest attacks.
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** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart, Zeref's personal feelings notwithstanding, is to slay [[GreaterScopeVillain Acnologia]]).

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** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart, Zeref's personal feelings notwithstanding, is to slay [[GreaterScopeVillain Acnologia]]).Acnologia]], whom was shown in a BadFuture to have devastated the planet when there was nothing to stop him).



*** [[TakeAThirdOption Then there was a good ammount of viewers who sympathized with]] [[OmnicidalManiac Rau Le ]][[StrawNihilist Creuset]], exactly because his campaign of deliberately escalating the war until both sides wiped each other out aligned perfectly with the perceived blind hatred and stupidity both ZAFT and the Alliance showed, that Cosmic Era's mankind didn't really deserve or strived for anything but self-annihilation.

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*** [[TakeAThirdOption Then there was a good ammount amount of viewers who sympathized with]] [[OmnicidalManiac Rau Le ]][[StrawNihilist Creuset]], exactly because his campaign of deliberately escalating the war until both sides wiped each other out aligned perfectly with the perceived blind hatred and stupidity both ZAFT and the Alliance showed, that Cosmic Era's mankind didn't really deserve or strived for anything but self-annihilation.
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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely '''loathed''' Kyubey]].

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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely '''loathed''' loathed Kyubey]].
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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely '''hated''' Kyubey]].

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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely '''hated''' '''loathed''' Kyubey]].
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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely Kyubey]].

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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely '''hated''' Kyubey]].
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', a popular comic strip series shows the battles of the Marines against a guild of assassins, the Germa 66, run by [[spoiler:Sanji's family (the Vinsmokes)]]. While it was meant to be used as propaganda to promote the Marines, Capone Bege's right-hand man, Vito, always thought Germa was way cooler and rooted for them instead, and is thus thrilled at the opportunity to meet one of their number [[spoiler:(Sanji)]].
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** The fans who hate Konoha and want to see it destroyed because of the Uchiha massacre being given the go-ahead, despite all the evidence pointing to the Uchiha not only bringing it upon themselves, but actually turning down the peace attempts that Hiruzen tried, especially with their ItsAllAboutMe attitude. While Konoha isn't the worst of the hidden villages when it comes to atrocities - especially given what Sunagakure [[BreakTheCutie did to Gaara]] - it's certainly not faultless either. Alternatively, some dislike it because of how Naruto was treated, even if he did ultimately end up better off than some of the other Jinchuuriki.

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** The fans who hate Konoha and want to see it destroyed because of the Uchiha massacre being given the go-ahead, despite all the evidence pointing to the Uchiha not only bringing it upon themselves, but actually turning down the peace attempts that Hiruzen tried, especially with their ItsAllAboutMe attitude. While Konoha isn't the worst of the hidden villages when it comes to atrocities - especially given what Sunagakure [[BreakTheCutie did to Gaara]] - it's certainly not faultless either. Alternatively, some dislike it because of how Naruto was treated, even if he did ultimately end up better off than some of the other Jinchuuriki.Jinchuuriki save Killer B and Yugito Nii, as if B is any indication, they were always treated with respect.
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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic.

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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic. A bit of MisaimedFandom can be claimed here for the organization as a whole, as aside from those three characters, all we've seen are either {{Mook}} Soldiers who blindly follow orders without thinking of the morality of their actions, corrupt officers that just don't care for what they are doing and just care about their positions, or the people in charge who want to preserve the status quo regardless of how right or wrong it is. With those three characters dead, Gjallarhorn has lost the only truly moral characters we know of.
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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure.]]

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** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure.]]infrastructure]]. Especially since the cast was already living in a CrapsackWorld where, even with [[spoiler: Madoka incarnated as a goddess of hope, the incubators could potentially have been captured and enslaved her to recreate the cycle of magical girls turning into witches. Akuma Homura may have stolen Madoka's powers and altered everyone's memories, but she also created a better world and gave '''the entire incubator race''' a taste of their own medicine. It's especially cathartic for those viewers who absolutely Kyubey]].
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*** [[TakeAThirdOption Then there was a good ammount of viewers who sympathized with]] [[OmnicidalManiac Rau Le ]][[StrawNihilist Creuset]], exactly because his campaign of deliberately escalating the war until both sides wiped each other out aligned perfectly with the perceived blind hatred and stupidity both ZAFT and the Alliance showed, that Cosmic Era's mankind didn't really deserve or strived for anything but self-annihilation.
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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorus soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic.

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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorus valorous soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic.
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** While the Gjallarhorn of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is a corrupt military organization, several officers in the organizations, such as Crank Zent, Gaelio Bauduin and Carta Issue are incorrupt, honorable and valorus soldiers who [[BornInTheWrongCentury behaved like Pre-Calamity War knights]], their lives are inadvertently ruined by a group of [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatic]] [[ChildSoldier Child Soldiers]]. It helps that it also displays a lot of SympatheticPOV onto them rather than having Tekkadan as entirely heroic.
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* Many fans of ''Anime/JackToMameNoKi'' feel that the giant Tulip should've been redeemed, seeing as he had been abused by his mother the witch Madam Hecuba and genuinely cared for Princess Margaret, and after he's finally had enough of Hecuba's abuse he kills her which breaks the spell she put on the kingdom which had turned all the servants into mice. And how do they repay Tulip?, they start attacking him and try to force him to leave when all he was really doing afterwards was slightly bullying and teasing them only because they had attacked him first, then immediately afterwards Jack starts provoking him by insulting his low intelligence much like his mother had, which leads to his death by falling from the beanstalk after Jack and his mother chop it down. While it was mentioned that he did eat people and had attempted to eat Jack before, he didn't seem to want to anymore after Hecuba's death.
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* Manga/FairyTail: After everything Zeref went through, [[spoiler: having been cursed by a JerkassGod just for wanting his little brother back, killing everything around him, including the only person that truly understood him and later fell in love with,]] it is no wonder why some fans are starting to root for him. [[spoiler: It is even possible that he wants Fairy Heart, not for malicious purposes like Fairy Tail believes, but just because he wants his lover back.]]
** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart, Zeref's personal feelings notwithstanding, is to slay [[BiggerBad Acnologia]]).
*** And then it turns out he's perfectly willing to work with Acnologia to make his schemes come to fruition and that the only way to keep his curse from activating on his subjects and killing them is by reducing them to nothing more than expendable pawns in his plans, only taking care for them for practical reasons rather than actually caring for them. His ultimate plan is to attempt to kill all life on the planet, EVEN HIS OWN SUBJECTS, if he's not himself killed.

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After everything Zeref went through, [[spoiler: having been cursed by a JerkassGod just for wanting his little brother back, killing everything around him, including the only person that truly understood him and later fell in love with,]] it is no wonder why some fans are starting to root for him. [[spoiler: It is even possible that he wants Fairy Heart, not for malicious purposes like Fairy Tail believes, but just because he wants his lover back.]]
** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart, Zeref's personal feelings notwithstanding, is to slay [[BiggerBad Acnologia]]).
*** And then it turns out he's perfectly willing to work with Acnologia to make his schemes come to fruition and that the only way to keep his curse from activating on his subjects and killing them is by reducing them to nothing more than expendable pawns in his plans, only taking care for them for practical reasons rather than actually caring for them. His ultimate plan is to attempt to kill all life on the planet, EVEN HIS OWN SUBJECTS, if he's not himself killed.
[[GreaterScopeVillain Acnologia]]).
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*** And then it turns out he's perfectly willing to work with Acnologia to make his schemes come to fruition and that the only way to keep his curse from activating on his subjects and killing them is by reducing them to nothing more than expendable pawns in his plans, only taking care for them for practical reasons rather than actually caring for them. His ultimate plan is to attempt to kill all life on the planet, EVEN HIS OWN SUBJECTS, if he's not himself killed.
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* This is the IntendedAudienceReaction in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs''. The Wolkenritter are ''incredibly'' sympathetic {{Woobie}} [[AntiVillain Anti-Villains]] with a ThouShaltNotKill policy. You're supposed to want them to succeed in filling [[ArtifactOfDoom the Book of Darkness]] to save [[MoralityPet Hayate's]] life, at least until [[spoiler: it's revealed that completing the book will result in Hayate's death and the destruction of the entire planet (something the Wolkenritter are completely unaware of).]]

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* This is the IntendedAudienceReaction in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs''. ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs'' due to it's nature of GoodVsGood. The Wolkenritter are ''incredibly'' sympathetic {{Woobie}} [[AntiVillain Anti-Villains]] with a with a ThouShaltNotKill policy. You're supposed to want them to succeed in filling [[ArtifactOfDoom the Book of Darkness]] to save [[MoralityPet Hayate's]] life, at least until [[spoiler: it's revealed that completing the book will result in Hayate's death and the destruction of the entire planet (something the Wolkenritter are completely unaware of).]]



* Considering that Saitama of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is an InvincibleHero who can defeat any opponent [[MeaningfulName with one punch]], looks like a particularily bland and plain cue ball, has one of the most understated backstories ever, is just a hero for fun and not because of any moral convictions or admirable ideology and whose sole goal is to get to find a WorthyOpponent, it's really not so hard to root for Boros when he shows up. First of all because, [[ComicallyInvincibleHero given the premise of the series]], all readers know that Boros, though he has been an InvincibleVillain up until now, [[FanOfUnderdog is severely outmatched]]; secondly because he is a {{Badass}} with an awesome design; thirdly because he is NotSoDifferent from Saitama, being a villain who realized that VictoryIsBoring and set out to conquer galaxies just so he could find someone who could put up a good match against him and, finally, because throughout the fight he goes from smug, to genuinely enjoying finally getting to use his full power against an opponent, to increasingly desperate to actually win, all the while Saitama does not even get bruised from Boros' strongest attacks.

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* Considering that Saitama of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is an InvincibleHero who can defeat any opponent [[MeaningfulName with one punch]], looks like a particularily particularly bland and plain cue ball, has one of the most understated backstories ever, is just a hero for fun and not because of any moral convictions or admirable ideology and whose sole goal is to get to find a WorthyOpponent, it's really not so hard to root for Boros when he shows up. First of all because, [[ComicallyInvincibleHero given the premise of the series]], all readers know that Boros, though he has been an InvincibleVillain up until now, [[FanOfUnderdog is severely outmatched]]; secondly because he is a {{Badass}} with an awesome design; thirdly because he is NotSoDifferent from Saitama, being a villain who realized that VictoryIsBoring and set out to conquer galaxies just so he could find someone who could put up a good match against him and, finally, because throughout the fight he goes from smug, to genuinely enjoying finally getting to use his full power against an opponent, to increasingly desperate to actually win, all the while Saitama does not even get bruised from Boros' strongest attacks.
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* This is the IntendedAudienceReaction in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs''. The Wolkenritter are ''incredibly'' sympathetic {{Woobie}} [[AntiVillain Anti-Villains]] with a ThouShaltNotKill policy. You're supposed to want them to succeed in filling [[ArtifactOfDoom the Book of Darkness]] to save [[MoralityPet Hayate's]] life, at least until [[spoiler: it's revealed that completing the book will result in Hayate's death and the destruction of the entire planet (something the Wolkenritter are completely unaware of).]]

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome. In addition to that, the raid [[WouldHurtAChild has no qualm about killing children]] and [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistically torture POW's, sometimes for pleasure]], [[AllCrimesAreEqual kill all their enemies regardless of what they do]] and are even willing to betray and kill family members.

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome. In addition to that, the raid [[WouldHurtAChild has no qualm about killing children]] and [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistically torture POW's, sometimes for pleasure]], [[AllCrimesAreEqual kill all their enemies regardless of what they do]] and are even willing to betray and kill family members.


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* Considering that Saitama of ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' is an InvincibleHero who can defeat any opponent [[MeaningfulName with one punch]], looks like a particularily bland and plain cue ball, has one of the most understated backstories ever, is just a hero for fun and not because of any moral convictions or admirable ideology and whose sole goal is to get to find a WorthyOpponent, it's really not so hard to root for Boros when he shows up. First of all because, [[ComicallyInvincibleHero given the premise of the series]], all readers know that Boros, though he has been an InvincibleVillain up until now, [[FanOfUnderdog is severely outmatched]]; secondly because he is a {{Badass}} with an awesome design; thirdly because he is NotSoDifferent from Saitama, being a villain who realized that VictoryIsBoring and set out to conquer galaxies just so he could find someone who could put up a good match against him and, finally, because throughout the fight he goes from smug, to genuinely enjoying finally getting to use his full power against an opponent, to increasingly desperate to actually win, all the while Saitama does not even get bruised from Boros' strongest attacks.
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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome. In addition to that, the raid [[WouldHurtAChild has no qualm about killing children]] and [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistically torture POW's, sometimes for pleasure]], [[AllCrimesAreEqual, kill all their enemies regardless of what they do]] and are even willing to betray and kill family members.

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome. In addition to that, the raid [[WouldHurtAChild has no qualm about killing children]] and [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistically torture POW's, sometimes for pleasure]], [[AllCrimesAreEqual, [[AllCrimesAreEqual kill all their enemies regardless of what they do]] and are even willing to betray and kill family members.
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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome.

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome. In addition to that, the raid [[WouldHurtAChild has no qualm about killing children]] and [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistically torture POW's, sometimes for pleasure]], [[AllCrimesAreEqual, kill all their enemies regardless of what they do]] and are even willing to betray and kill family members.
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' features a case where most of the Z Warriors wind up taking Cell's side when Mr. Satan challenges him, as they all get irritated by his loudmouth, overbearing, braggart attitude and his constant underestimation of Cell's ability. After Cell easily dispatches him in one hit, Krillin admits to Gohan that he was rooting for Cell, and even Piccolo winds up being disappointed that Satan survived the fight.
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** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart is to slay [[BiggerBad Acnologia]]).

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** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart Heart, Zeref's personal feelings notwithstanding, is to slay [[BiggerBad Acnologia]]).
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** Zeref's case is further helped by the company he keeps. Unlike the majority of antagonist factions in ''Fairy Tail'', or even the majority of [[TheEmpire Empires]] out there, Alvarez is by no means evil or oppressive, instead being depicted as a prosperous utopian nation with Zeref himself being benign Emperor to his people. Likewise, the Spriggan 12, while possessing the usual eccentricities and personality quirks of ''Fairy Tail'' characters, are not villainous in the least, mostly coming across as warriors [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting for their country and their Emperor]] while holding no outward malevolence to their enemies. Compared to the Dark Guilds Fairy Tail has fought in the past, Alvarez could be seen as a heroic faction in its own right (especially since their ultimate aim with Fairy Heart is to slay [[BiggerBad Acnologia]]).
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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even Night Raid, [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome.

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even [[DesignatedHero Night Raid, Raid]], [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome.
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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' has many fans rooting for the [[BadassCrew Jaegers]] over even Night Raid, [[ALighterShadeOfBlack partially because they are the most decent group in the Empire to root for]], but also for the fact they're made up of {{PunchClockVillain}}s or [[EvenEvilHasStandards somewhat]] [[AntiVillain decent people]] with [[AlasPoorVillain pretty meaningful death scenes]]. It helps that they're lead by [[EnsembleDarkhorse Esdeath]] and have FanPreferredCouple Wave and Kurome.
* ''Anime/TheAnimatrix'' puts the Machines from ''Series/TheMatrix'' into a much, much more sympathetic light. It's shown that the Machines had their origins as a slave race created by humanity to do all their work while the humans enjoyed the good life. When machines began to assert their own right to life (defending themselves when their owners tried to destroy them), they were the subject of a brutal crackdown campaign. The machines then founded their own nation and made numerous attempts at peaceful coexistence with their human neighbours [[HumansAreBastards (all of which were ignored or deliberately sabotaged by said humans)]]. It's only when humanity declared war and launched an attack to blacken the skies that the Machines finally took off the kid gloves (and even then, the production of a digital playground for the humans to run around in could be seen as something of a mercy gesture from the Machines, given that they only needed the humans to be alive to serve as their batteries). The viewer could be forgiven for thinking they've been rooting for the wrong side in the rest of the films.
* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': People don't want the Titans to destroy humanity, but it's easy to want [[spoiler: Bertolt and Reiner to capture Eren]], because their success would finally allow us to see who they're working for. Similarly, [[spoiler: the false report that they attacked wall Rose again]] actually got some readers momentarily excited for their return.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' had five years' worth of dealing with the Soul Society as the antagonists during a conspiracy arc, so it exposed a lot of the crimes, inequality (deceased humans' souls are regulated to live in slums) and bureaucracy evident in the Soul Society. While the Arrancar [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority aren't exactly a nice bunch]], several fans were quite annoyed at the archaic, aristocratic depiction of the supposed afterlife, and it was not uncommon to see fans view disappointment at whenever an Espada lost a fight with a captain. It's easy to feel ''some'' sympathy for the Hollows (and, by extension, the Arrancars) who are hunted by the Shinigami, as they need to feed on souls in order to survive, so although they need to be killed because of the threat they pose to humans they themselves see their actions merely as self-preservation, and all of them are just corrupted souls who have forgotten what they originally were, who aren't so much killed as absolved as their sins and allowed to move on to the afterlife naturally. And the author apparently ''listened'' to those rooting for the Arrancar, with the Soul Society undergoing a culture change that makes them closer to ALighterShadeOfGrey, while the Arrancar are going through such a species-wide BreakTheHaughty moment that [[EnemyMine they're actually more open to HELPING their former enemies than before]].
* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' - A number of people supported the Holy Empire of Britannia, some because they began to dislike [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]], some because they believed that Britannia actually had sensible (if cut-throat) policies, and others for shallow EvilIsCool reasons. Then there's the British fans who root for their own country, barely veiled expy though it is. In addition, various viewers also liked Suzaku, the protagonist's main rival, sympathizing with his actions and points of view more than with Lelouch's.
* A common complaint of ''LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars''; thanks to the Abh being {{Designated Hero}}es, many complain they are TheEmpire and the author is Rooting For The Empire, so fans instead decide to Root For The Empire by cheering on the United Humankind faction, who are the DesignatedVillain and play TheEmpire straight.
* ''Manga/DeathNote'' is... a complicated example. Light is already a KnightTemplar[=/=]VillainProtagonist, prone to DracoInLeatherPants, but his WorthyOpponent L is equally popular, so who you rooted for was, ''hopefully'', irrelevant, as long as they ''kept fighting''. Once [[spoiler:L dies, Near was such a ReplacementScrappy, and an InsufferableGenius]], those rooting for Light [[spoiler:and calling for Near's head]] grew much more vociferous - as did the supporters of loose cannon Mello and the generalized Wammy partisans.
* ''Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor'' had this, since the "good" guys were so unlikable, the writers noticed this and took steps to fix this.
* Manga/FairyTail: After everything Zeref went through, [[spoiler: having been cursed by a JerkassGod just for wanting his little brother back, killing everything around him, including the only person that truly understood him and later fell in love with,]] it is no wonder why some fans are starting to root for him. [[spoiler: It is even possible that he wants Fairy Heart, not for malicious purposes like Fairy Tail believes, but just because he wants his lover back.]]
* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' has a truly massive amount of Rooting For The Empire, spread across its multiple series. The series' antiwar message makes sure that the villains are never completely evil and have realistic motivations.
** Look no further than [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Principality of Zeon]] from the original Universal Century timeline. The franchise ''does'' do its best to show that WarIsHell, [[GreyAndGrayMorality there IS no "right" and "wrong" side]], many of their grievances and (questionable) justifications ''are'' based on some in-verse context, and has introduced sympathetic Zeons like [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Bernard Wiseman]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamThe08thMSTeam Aina Sahalin]]. However, later writers seem to have missed or outright ignored Creator/YoshiyukiTomino's very deliberate parallels between Zeon and Nazi Germany, including their leader [[InsultBackfire being PROUD to be compared to]] UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by his own father. While Tomino did feature some sympathetic Zeons in his stories, the "Zeon as LaResistance" attitude didn't really hit its stride until the productions that didn't involve him, in particular ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'', where the Zeon remnants '''do''' style themselves as LaResistance even as they try (once more) to drop a colony on Earth, and the soldier who was [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal inspired to defect after being hated and abused by her fellows]] is treated as the lowest of scum. In fact, as of stories like ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO MS IGLOO]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'', being a fan of the ''Federation'' is pretty well treated as Rooting for the Empire.
*** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Unicorn]]'' contains a debatable LampshadeHanging on the entire concept; Banagher ends up visiting a space colony full of Zeon loyalists who whole-heartedly believe the "Zeon heroes, Feddies evil" idea...completely ignoring that the vast majority of them live in abject squalor so a tiny number of elites can live like kings.
*** A lot of people in Australia (outside of [[UsefulNotes/AustralianStatesAndTerritories New South Wales]]) view [[ColonyDrop the Sydney Drop]] as a GOOD thing. As an added bonus, the colony likely took out Canberra (where all the politicians are) as well.
** The [[StateSec Titans]] of the ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' era, while nowhere near as popular as the Zeon, and given a far less sympathetic treatment in canon (despite committing far fewer atrocities), also have their fair share of fans. Reflecting this is a number of sidestory manga starring various subfactions that can be described as "Titans, but totally not evil like those other ones". It doesn't help that the real goal of the Titans according to [[AllThereInTheManual side materials]] is [[spoiler: to engineer a social collapse through the Gryps conflict that will destroy TheFederation and force a mass exodus to the colonies with the Titans in charge.]]
** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' plays around with this, primarily because individual people matter more than factions. So while OZ might have both good people (like Zechs and Treize) and bad people (like Dermail and Tsubarov), the organization itself is only "bad" because it opposes the Gundam Pilots. In fact, at one point, [[spoiler:Relena Peacecraft]] becomes the head of OZ, making it an erstwhile ally to the G-Team. Likewise, though the Gundam Pilots are the main characters and are supposed to be good guys, they commit morally questionable acts and the series actually discusses if they were needed in the first place.
** In ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Gundam SEED]]'' (and ''especially'' its [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny sequel]]), even trying to decide which faction counts as "the empire" for the purposes of this trope can spark {{Flame War}}s. Suffice to say that all sides have their fans, despite the copious amounts of bastardry and/or stupidity displayed by everyone. Fans of the Earth Alliance became such specifically in protest of the fact that the entire faction was portrayed as {{Card Carrying Villain}}s (in ''Destiny'' anyway; they're more morally grey in ''SEED'' proper), as part of the general "screw you" attitude many have adopted towards the show's director Mitsuo Fukuda and head writer Chiaki Morosawa ([[CreatorCouple who are husband and wife]]). Many viewers also ended up rooting for the Earth Alliance due to many of its characters coming off sympathetic and how ZAFT repeatedly [[CurbStompBattle slaughtered anybody]] without CharacterShields for the first half of the series.
** Season 1 of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]''. It doesn't help that the main characters are {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s whose plan appears to boil down to "kill everyone on ''both'' sides of any fight that starts with our [[BiggerStick uberly superior Gundams]]", while most of their enemies are sympathetic soldiers [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fighting to protect their countries]] as best as they can even with vastly inferior mechs, sometimes [[VillainousValour almost succeeding through careful planning]], as [[TheStrategist Sergei and Kati]] demonstrate.
*** In season 2 Celestial Being was presented as an almost messianic LaResistance group that was always right in their cause; even the [[MoralMyopia wanton acts]] they committed in Season 1 were all but completely forgotten[[note]]they were brought up once in S2 - by Saji in the first few episodes, and he was looked upon as a {{Jerkass}} for doing so[[/note]], in spite of Celestial Being's interventions being the reason the ESF and the A-Laws came into existence. Setsuna's transformation into an Innovator literally gave him cosmic superpowers (ones that made the psychedelic Newtype stuff from the Universal Century look tame) and a full on messiah complex (such that even supporting characters compare Setsuna to a savior at times). Combine that with the usual {{Anvilicious}} writing that plagues any and all ''Gundam'' series at the end of their respective runs, and you can see why certain viewers were rooting for whoever was fighting CB at the time.
** Once [[WhamEpisode Episode 15]] of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam Age]]'' aired, the number of fans who are cheering for the Unknown Enemy, the Vagan, had grown exponentially. It's easy to sympathize with them as [[spoiler:the Earth Federation left the colonists on Mars for dead, causing the said colonists to form their own nation to rival the Earth Federation.]]
*** Conversely, many fans actually cheer on Flit Asuno for trying to wipe out the Vagan race in a genocidal campaign. The fact that the Vagans themselves attack innocent civilians and earth citizens killed off much sympathy and goodwill for them. Furthermore, many named Vagans are [[GeneralFailure incompetent leaders]] or [[ForTheEvulz evil for evil's sake]] only made things worst. That and they killed off the EnsembleDarkhorse [[spoiler:Yurin]] and caused Flit's StartOfDarkness. In short, anyone who cheers on either the Earth Federation or the Vagans is [[EvilVersusEvil Rooting For AN Empire]].
* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' seems to have rubbed some fans the wrong way -- there are quite a few of them who want the [[DesignatedVillain Computer Club]] [[ButtMonkey President]] (who was the victim of {{Blackmail}}) or [[EvilCounterpart the Anti-SOS Brigade]] to succeed. In the case of the Computer Club President, it's justifiable and even [[InvokedTrope Kyon has sympathy for him in-universe]], because he is a victim of Haruhi's mad whims. The Anti-SOS Brigade are actually villains, however, yet back in the day they had a sizeable fanbase convinced that the Anti-SOS Brigade members deserved Kyon's friendship (and [[spoiler:Haruhi's powers]]) more than the SOS Brigade and Haruhi, whom they saw as an unstable lunatic.
* ''{{Manga/Hellsing}}'' starts to have this in its later volumes where some readers root for characters fighting against Alucard due to how he is [[InvincibleHero invincible for most of the series]]. Paladin Alexander Anderson especially has a large fandom due to his SlasherSmile, cool powers and [[KnifeNut weapons]], and [[SinisterMinister creepy priest]] vibe. InUniverse, Alucard appears to ''agree'', considering Anderson a WorthyOpponent and seeming to actually ''want'' [[DeathSeeker him to be victorious]].
* Given the displays of epic incompetence from the humans (namely, Meleagros and Atalantes), cheering for the Silver Tribe in ''Anime/HeroicAge'' is not hard as it seems. Mostly for them to kill those two dumbasses already.
* ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is the textbook definition of this trope. Even Yang Wen-li, the military leader for the democratic government fighting the Empire, has a [[EvenTheGuysWantHim mancrush]] on Reinhard von Lohengramm, the leader of the monarchic Galactic Empire. Yang Wen-li and another wise military leader on the democratic side muse casually about how they would fight for Reinhard without a second thought if they were born in the Empire and seem to fight on behalf of a corrupt democracy with a resigned "what else can we do?" attitude. This show is also the textbook definition of GreyAndGrayMorality so Reinhard isn't exactly [[AntiHero bad]]...
* ''Anime/MazingerZ'': Dr. Hell is a LargeHam who wanted to TakeOverTheWorld to force the whole humankind to [[KneelBeforeZod bow down to him]], but some fans know about his Backstory tend to see him like TheWoobie (or a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds) and actually feel sympathetic towards him, thinking it was unfair he worked so hard, scheming complex plans and strategies and crafting incredible scientific breakthroughs only to be defeated, crushed and humiliated over and over and over by a loud-mouthed, Jerkass IdiotHero teenager with a cool HumongousMecha. And in ''Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}}'', it turns out one of the major reasons he wanted to rule humanity was to unite it against the rising menace of the Mykene Empire.
* In ''Manga/MedakaBox'', BigBad Kumagawa, to the point where even the characters in story want him to beat Medaka. He has also won every popularity poll since he made his debut.
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'':
** There are quite a few readers who root for the Akatsuki, and even for Sasuke during his [[FaceHeelTurn stint as a bad guy]]. It doesn't help that the main character himself took his AllLovingHero traits straight into TooDumbToLive territory, with his doing so fueled by desperation. Though [[spoiler:Naruto's gotten better]], said fans still take Obito, Sasuke, or Madara over him.
** The fans who hate Konoha and want to see it destroyed because of the Uchiha massacre being given the go-ahead, despite all the evidence pointing to the Uchiha not only bringing it upon themselves, but actually turning down the peace attempts that Hiruzen tried, especially with their ItsAllAboutMe attitude. While Konoha isn't the worst of the hidden villages when it comes to atrocities - especially given what Sunagakure [[BreakTheCutie did to Gaara]] - it's certainly not faultless either. Alternatively, some dislike it because of how Naruto was treated, even if he did ultimately end up better off than some of the other Jinchuuriki.
* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' has this in effect for the [[GoldfishPoopGang Team Rocket Trio]] Jessie, James, and Meowth. While they can succeed in some of their efforts, they are always defeated by [[InvincibleHero Ash]] and Co. Ash has so much PlotArmor that you can expect him to win anything that's not a major tournament, and you know that he never loses to Team Rocket unless the plot demands it (remember, waaaaay back in the third episode, James' incredulous "Beaten by a ''Caterpie''?!"). Even then it's usually by trickery rather than a battle. This goes on for so long, with even their most [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption brilliant schemes failing]], that you want them to win at least once, [[TeamRocketWins just to see them steal someone's Pokemon]] and get away with it to prove that they are still a threat. They TookALevelInBadass in the ''Best Wishes'' series, and were even ''promoted''. Jessie, James, and Meowth are able to pull off museum heists and sneak a train out of a highly monitored subway system with little trouble, [[spoiler:but despite this Ash still beats them when it comes down to the wire. This can leave a bad taste after watching them spend 20 episodes preparing for one big event.]]
* Many fans of the ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'' merrily bash the Seishun Gakuen aka Seigaku regulars as overpowered [[GodModeSue Gary Stus]]. Specially if they're fans of either Rikkaidai or Hyoutei, which are entire ''teams'' of {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s that border on DracoInLeatherPants.
* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'':
** [[spoiler:Kyubey]] is certainly a [[ManipulativeBastard conniving, manipulative]] rat who earns his LoveToHate status, but despite his deplorable methods there are people who support his goals. [[WellIntentionedExtremist After all]], [[spoiler:he's only trying to save the universe.]]
** ''Many'' of the witches - especially [[StarterVillain Gertrude]], [[KnightOfCerebus Charlotte]], [[WalkingSpoiler Oktavia]], and [[HeroKiller Walpurgisnacht]] - have massive fandoms, to the point you have people seriously arguing that a mindless, murderous EldritchAbomination is ''cute''. In Charlotte's case [[spoiler:[[AscendedExtra she became a secondary character]], as of ''Rebellion''.]]
** The ending of ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is deliberately ambiguous as to whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but even those who acknowledge that it could be bad find it hard not to side with [[spoiler:Akuma Homura, since she won Madoka, brought everyone back to life, and gained full control of Incubator infrastructure.]]
* ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar'' has some divergences between the OVA, novels and other series but the basic plot stays the same. While at first it might look like your regular [[RagtagBunchOfMisfits band of good guys]] fighting against [[TheEmpire an evil empire called Marmo]] who has set out to conquer all of the continent of Lodoss, it quickly shows to be much deeper. The entire land is cursed from having been the seat of the climatic battle between the Goddess of Creation and the Goddess of Destruction, and a small part of it, Marmo, is [[{{Mordor}} twice accursed and plagued with monsters]] from being the latter Godess's final resting place. Sure, the side looks stereotypically evil, being populated with a few humans and dark elves, with hordes of monsters under it's control. But their king, Beld, was a mercenary from Marmo and one of the legendary heroes who saved Lodoss by defeating the Demon King years prior. Beld claimed [[EvilWeapon the demon's sword, Soulcrusher]], as his reward only to be slowly influenced by its dark whisperings. His general, [[BlackKnight Lord Ashram]], despite being introduced as a deadly and cold-hearted killer, proves to be a man of unfailing duty and loyalty to his king, with honor and [[AntiVillain a heart]]. Amidst prophecies of doom, attempted resurrections of dormant forces of destruction and a powerful witch who manipulates all factions behind the scenes out of [[WellIntentionedExtremist the certitude that any side winning would upset the balance of Lodoss and cause it's doom]], we get to realize that things are not so black and white. In the end, internal factions with [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt hidden agendas]] and [[EvilSorcerer manipulative betrayers]] aside, the people of the Empire of Marmo really just want to get out of the terrible hell-hole that is their land and finally live in peace and safety.
* In season 3 of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'', many fans started supporting the Crimson Denizens instead of the Flame Hazes once war broke out between the two. Considering that the final light novel reveals [[spoiler:Snake of the Festival Yuji and his Crimson Denizen followers not only win, but were absolutely right in believing that their dream of a paradise where Denizens and humans coexist could work and would not destroy the world, this is one of those occasions where Rooting For The Empire is supported by canon.]]
* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'' dips into this territory, showing the Gamilas fleet battling against the Comet Empire (the Big Bads of the original series' second season), and the revelation that [[spoiler: Earth fired first in an unprovoked attack]]. On the other hand, it also shows some total bastards on the Gamilas side, with one episode showing the bombardment of a rebellious planet and the strafing of refugees fleeing population centers.
* ''Anime/ValkyriaChronicles'' really makes many of the Imperial characters more likable than the Gallian High Command (i.e. anyone above Varrot save for Cordelia). True, this was present in the game, but the AdaptationExpansion of Selvaria (already a likable AntiVillain), Jaeger (an even more likable AntiVillain), and Gregor (still as much of an asshole as ever, but compared to his Gallian counterpart Damon he's actually seen as far more competent and more genuinely deserving of respect by comparison), the Imperials look far better in terms of characterization than the Gallian Regulars, who, much like the game counterparts, treat the real heroes (Welkin Gunther and Squad 7) like crap. This is averted, however, with Maximilian, who is an even more obvious {{Jerkass}} than his game counterpart.
* ''Anime/{{Yatterman}}'' is better known for the [[TerribleTrio three main villains]] than it is for the main heroes. In many ways the villains were the more focused part of the show. Heck, they (or rather, their descendants) are the heroes of the [[Anime/YattermanNight 40th anniversary special]].
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