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Kes has decided against having a child. Neelix, who was starting to look forward to fatherhood, is bummed out, but Kes consoles him by revealing that her Elogium was "false," and that she will still go through it at the proper time, at which point she and Neelix will be better prepared for parenthood. Meanwhile, Janeway meets with a member of her crew who announces that she's pregnant with her boyfriend's baby, who is still on Deep Space Nine. The captain commiserates that it's not an ideal place for a child but congratulates her anyway.

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Kes has decided against having a child. Neelix, who was starting to look forward to fatherhood, is bummed out, but Kes consoles him by revealing that her Elogium was "false," and that she will still go through it at the proper time, at which point she and Neelix will be better prepared for parenthood. Meanwhile, Janeway meets with a member of her crew who announces that she's pregnant with her boyfriend's husband's baby, who is still on Deep Space Nine. The captain commiserates that it's not an ideal place for a child but congratulates her anyway.



* BizarreAlienBiology: Kes gives birth from a sac on her back, and when she reaches sexual maturity you rub her feet until her tongue swells up.

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* BizarreAlienBiology: Kes gives birth from a sac on her back, and when she reaches sexual maturity maturity, you rub her feet until her tongue swells up.



'''Kes:''' In order to ensure conception. And after the ipasaphor appears, we only have fifty hours to begin the process. So I need to know your answer.

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'''Kes:''' In order to ensure conception. And after the ipasaphor appears, we only have fifty hours to begin the process. So So, I need to know your answer.



* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: At the end of the episode, Ensign Wildman goes to have a quiet word with the Captain. Turns out she's pregnant, and her husband stayed behind on Deep Space Nine on the other side of the galaxy. After all, ''Voyager'' was only supposed to be out for a few weeks…

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* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: At the end of the episode, Ensign Wildman goes to have a quiet word with the Captain.captain. Turns out she's pregnant, and her husband stayed behind on Deep Space Nine on the other side of the galaxy. After all, ''Voyager'' was only supposed to be out for a few weeks…



* WithDueRespect: An unusually-aggressive B'Elanna says this to Captain Janeway, when she's reluctant to harm the space creatures.

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* WithDueRespect: An unusually-aggressive unusually aggressive B'Elanna says this to Captain Janeway, when she's reluctant to harm the space creatures.
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This is an intentional dry quip by Tuvok


* TheComicallySerious
-->'''Tuvok:''' It appears we have lost our sex appeal, Captain.
-->''(Janeway tries not to laugh)''
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* NoHuggingNoKissing: Averted; at the end Kes and Neelix do both.
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[[caption-width-right:350:When Ocampa get clingy, they use actual glue!]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Captain, Kes has been playing with the mustard packets again!]]

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* AndroidsArePeopleToo: Neelix shows a little space racism against the Doctor, asserting that he's not real and has no right to order around a flesh-and-blood person like him. He's apparently not overwhelmed with gratitude for saving his life with those holographic lungs. Kes insists that the Doctor is at least real to her.



* BabiesMakeEverythingBetter: Averted; when Neelix wants to go ahead, Kes then has second thoughts, eventually deciding not to have a child.



* [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Guy]]: Neelix; while his jealousy of [[TheCharmer Tom Paris]] is somewhat justifiable, the same can't be said of his jealousy towards the Doctor, a hologram lacking any ''[[BarbieDollAnatomy genitalia]]'' altogether!
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Check out this TechnoBabble!
-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
-->'''JANEWAY:''' Then you'd think it would be happy to see us leave. Lieutenant, is there any way we could generate a [[SpeedSex short burst]] at impulse, [[NotStayingForBreakfast enough to get us away from this swarm?]]
-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].
** On a serious note, the episode itself for teen pregnancy.

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* [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Guy]]: Neelix; while his jealousy ClingyJealousGirl: Neelix is once again proven to be extremely jealous when anyone is so much as nice to Kes. He clarifies that he's not distrustful of [[TheCharmer Tom Paris]] her but assumes that every man around is somewhat justifiable, the same can't be said poised to take advantage of his jealousy towards the Doctor, a hologram lacking any ''[[BarbieDollAnatomy genitalia]]'' altogether!
"young, naive" girl like her.
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Check out this TechnoBabble!
-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
-->'''JANEWAY:''' Then you'd think it would be happy to see us leave. Lieutenant, is there any way we could generate a [[SpeedSex short burst]] at impulse, [[NotStayingForBreakfast enough to get us away from this swarm?]]
-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].
** On a serious note, the
The episode itself for is a science fiction take on teen pregnancy.pregnancy, with Kes and Neelix struggling to decide with little warning whether they're ready to raise a child, and Kes ultimately decides that she's too young.



* FanDisservice: Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.

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* FanDisservice: Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.



* MostWritersAreHuman: This episode makes a few assumptions about Ocampa and Talaxians from a western, human perspective. It's treated as self-evident that Kes would be horrified to realize that she's eating live bugs, but we've already seen several alien species in ''Star Trek'' eat bugs and other live creatures, and human cultures in real life eat insects. Tuvok also reminds Neelix that he's equally likely to have a daughter as a son, though that's a rather bold assumption from someone who knows just about nothing about Talaxian or Ocampan biology.



* RammingAlwaysWorks: Averted; it only makes the SpaceWhale that's bothering ''Voyager'' respond more aggressively.
* ResetButton: Turns out Kes can still have kids. [[spoiler:Which she does in an alternate history timeline.]]

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* RammingAlwaysWorks: Averted; it only makes the SpaceWhale that's bothering ''Voyager'' respond more aggressively.
* ResetButton: Turns out Kes can still have kids. [[spoiler:Which she does in an alternate history timeline.]]



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* SpaceWhaleSpaceWhale: The large space creature looks and behaves quite a bit like a whale.

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While ''Voyager'' investigates a school of breeders in space, Kes undergoes the onset of the Ocampa version of puberty, where she must mate with a willing member of the crew or else she would be unable to produce a child for the rest of her life.

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While Love is in the air as Chakotay catches two officers kissing in a turbolift. He asks Janeway whether they should draw up policies on fraternization in the ranks, but Janeway doesn't think it necessary to regulate the crew's personal lives. They take the ship into a strange energy disturbance and find a swarm of space-dwelling lifeforms. Meanwhile, Kes is gardening and is horrified to discover that she's been snacking on some beetles without realizing it.

Neelix finds Kes gorging herself on just about anything she can shove in her mouth. She maniacally insists nothing is wrong with her, but he carries her to sick bay anyway. The Doctor runs tests and eventually must kick Neelix out for interfering. He storms onto the bridge, where the crew are dealing with the fact that the space creatures have sucked the ship into their swarm. Janeway insists on finding a nonviolent way to free themselves. When Neelix interrupts her to complain about the Doctor's actions, the Doctor himself summons Janeway to sick bay. Kes has sealed herself off with a forcefield and refuses to come out. Even Neelix can't talk sense into her, but she does eventually let Janeway in.

Kes confesses that she's undergoing the Ocampan version of puberty, called Elogium, which has come far too early in her life. She has only this one chance to have a child. She and Neelix have to make the decision in 40-50 hours. Neelix is hesitant about having a child on a starship, but Kes angrily rebuffs his comments as excuses and accuses him of not wanting a child with her. Neelix wanders off to think and speaks with Tuvok, who notes the profound satifaction that child rearing can bring. Neelix returns and announces that he's ready to be a father, but Kes herself starts having doubts.

The ship hasn't been able to escape the swarm of space creatures, some of which have attached themselves to the ship in an attempt to mate. A massive version of the creatures arrives and starts ramming the ship, apparently in a display of dominance. The crew try fleeing, distracting, and ramming the creature to no avail. After noting the behavior of the creatures earlier, they decide to simulate a show of submission by changing the ship's color and rolling over, which the creature accepts. With
''Voyager'' investigates a school of breeders in space, having lost its "sex appeal," the smaller creatures detach and swarm around the larger one, freeing the ship.

Kes undergoes has decided against having a child. Neelix, who was starting to look forward to fatherhood, is bummed out, but Kes consoles him by revealing that her Elogium was "false," and that she will still go through it at the onset of the Ocampa version of puberty, where proper time, at which point she must mate and Neelix will be better prepared for parenthood. Meanwhile, Janeway meets with a willing member of the her crew or else she would be unable to produce who announces that she's pregnant with her boyfriend's baby, who is still on Deep Space Nine. The captain commiserates that it's not an ideal place for a child for the rest of but congratulates her life.anyway.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Teen pregnancy.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Teen Check out this TechnoBabble!
-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
-->'''JANEWAY:''' Then you'd think it would be happy to see us leave. Lieutenant, is there any way we could generate a [[SpeedSex short burst]] at impulse, [[NotStayingForBreakfast enough to get us away from this swarm?]]
-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].
** On a serious note, the episode itself for teen
pregnancy.



%% * GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.

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* BizarreAlienLocomotion: The space creatures propel themselves via flagellation, essentially whipping their tails back and forth as a means of moving forward. In keeping with the theme of the episode, this happens to also be how sperm propels itself.

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* BizarreAlienLocomotion: The space creatures propel themselves via flagellation, essentially whipping their tails back and forth [[SpaceFriction as a means of moving forward.forward]]. In keeping with the theme of the episode, this happens to also be how sperm propels itself.



* TheGlomp
* HotSkittyOnWailordAction: A SpaceWhale tries to hump ''[[CargoShip Voyager]]''.

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* TheGlomp
* HotSkittyOnWailordAction: A SpaceWhale tries to hump ''[[CargoShip Voyager]]''.Voyager]]!''
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I Ate What clean up. The trope is when a character eats something, unaware of what they are consuming, and then reacts in disgust after they find out what it is. Misuse will be deleted or moved to another trope when applicable. Administrivia.Zero Context Examples will be removed or commented out depending on the amount of context within the entry. Also, I Ate What is not a character trope.


* IAteWhat: Kes starts eating the bugs and nitrogenated soil in her airponics bay.
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* WackyCravings: A variation. Although Kes isn't actually pregnant, she is undergoing severe hormonal changes related to her species' reproductive cycle, which causes her to develop a major appetite for the weirdest things: beetles, mashed potatoes with soil, flowers...
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[Website/SFDebris Captain, Kes has been playing with the mustard packets again!]]]]

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* BarbieDollAnatomy: It is very likely that this applies to the Ocampa, as we see Kes in "Before and After" giving birth out of a sack on her back and we learn here that conception occurs only after a male touches the female's palms after they begin to secrete some kind of yellow mucus.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Check out this TechnoBabble!
-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
-->'''JANEWAY:''' Then you'd think it would be happy to see us leave. Lieutenant, is there any way we could generate a [[SpeedSex short burst]] at impulse, [[NotStayingForBreakfast enough to get us away from this swarm?]]
-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].

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%% * GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Check out GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this TechnoBabble!
-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If
in the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then future, please check the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
-->'''JANEWAY:''' Then you'd think it would be happy
trope page to see us leave. Lieutenant, is there any way we could generate a [[SpeedSex short burst]] at impulse, [[NotStayingForBreakfast enough to get us away from this swarm?]]
-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from
make sure your example fits the impulse capacitance cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].current definition.
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-->'''NEELIX:''' What's that?\\
'''KES:''' The ipasaphor. It makes the mating bond possible.\\
'''NEELIX:''' It does?\\
'''KES:''' If we begin, we must stay bonded for six days.\\
'''NEELIX:''' [[OutWithABang Six days?]]\\
'''KES:''' In order to ensure conception. And after the ipasaphor appears, we only have fifty hours to begin the process. So I need to know your answer.

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-->'''NEELIX:''' -->'''Neelix:''' What's that?\\
'''KES:''' '''Kes:''' The ipasaphor. It makes the mating bond possible.\\
'''NEELIX:''' '''Neelix:''' It does?\\
'''KES:''' '''Kes:''' If we begin, we must stay bonded for six days.\\
'''NEELIX:''' '''Neelix:''' [[OutWithABang Six days?]]\\
'''KES:''' '''Kes:''' In order to ensure conception. And after the ipasaphor appears, we only have fifty hours to begin the process. So I need to know your answer.

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* FanDisservice
** The episode seems to exist primarily to establish that, yes, [[OfficialCouple Kes and Neelix]] are having sex. At least they're never seen engaging in pillow talk...
** Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.

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* FanDisservice
** The episode seems to exist primarily to establish that, yes, [[OfficialCouple Kes and Neelix]] are having sex. At least they're never seen engaging in pillow talk...
**
FanDisservice: Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.

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* BrainBleach: The episode seems to exist primarily to establish that, yes, [[OfficialCouple Kes and Neelix]] are having sex. At least they're never seen engaging in pillow talk...



* FanDisservice: Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.

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* FanDisservice: FanDisservice
** The episode seems to exist primarily to establish that, yes, [[OfficialCouple Kes and Neelix]] are having sex. At least they're never seen engaging in pillow talk...
**
Kes in a state of sexual heat looks like a sweat-stained, hollow-eyed junkie. Fans wanting to see a [[EvilIsSexy sexy Kes]] should check out "Warlord" instead.
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* BarbieDollAnatomy: It is very likely that this applies to the Ocampa, as we see Kes in "Before and After" giving birth out of a sack on her back and we learn here that conception occurs only after a male touches the female's palms after they begin to secrete some kind of yellow mucus.
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The episode establishes that Ocampa can have children only once in their lifetimes, and strongly implies -- though to be fair, it wasn't said outright until later -- that they give birth to only one child during their one and only pregnancy. And since nothing in this or any other episode says that male Ocampa also give birth, this means that the ''best''-case scenario is that every generation of Ocampa should be half the size of the previous one. Not to mention that it makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint for conception to take six days. Any species that takes that long to conceive would be open to attacks from predators.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The episode establishes that Ocampa can have children only once in their lifetimes, and strongly implies -- though to be fair, it wasn't said outright until later -- that they give birth to only one child during their one and only pregnancy. And since nothing in this or any other episode says that male Ocampa also give birth, this means that the ''best''-case scenario is that every generation of Ocampa should be half the size of the previous one. Not to mention that it makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint for conception the physical act to take six days.days, during which the couple must be bonded together. Any species that takes that long to conceive would be open to attacks from predators.
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The episode establishes that Ocampa can have children only once in their lifetimes, and strongly implies -- though to be fair, it wasn't said outright until later -- that they give birth to only one child during their one and only pregnancy. And since nothing in this or any other episode says that male Ocampa also give birth, this means that the ''best''-case scenario is that every generation of Ocampa should be half the size of the previous one.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The episode establishes that Ocampa can have children only once in their lifetimes, and strongly implies -- though to be fair, it wasn't said outright until later -- that they give birth to only one child during their one and only pregnancy. And since nothing in this or any other episode says that male Ocampa also give birth, this means that the ''best''-case scenario is that every generation of Ocampa should be half the size of the previous one. Not to mention that it makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint for conception to take six days. Any species that takes that long to conceive would be open to attacks from predators.
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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].

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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may [[TestosteronePoisoning perceive us as a rival.rival]]. That [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
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* HilariousInHindsight
** The idea of ''Voyager'' becoming a GenerationShip with only one OfficialCouple allowed at a time.
** Chakotay advises responding in a submissive way as a sexual tactic. That would explain why he never made an aggressive move on Janeway in seven years.
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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].

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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow [[TheImmodestOrgasm plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The episode establishes that Ocampa can have children only once in their lifetimes, and strongly implies -- though to be fair, it wasn't said outright until later -- that they give birth to only one child during their one and only pregnancy. And since nothing in this or any other episode says that male Ocampa also give birth, this means that the ''best''-case scenario is that every generation of Ocampa should be half the size of the previous one.
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* ElevatorGoingDown: Chakotay [[MomentKiller interrupts]] a couple making out in the turbolift. Good thing he never finds out what some SlashFic writers have him getting up to in there.

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* ElevatorGoingDown: Chakotay [[MomentKiller interrupts]] [[InterruptedIntimacy interrupts a couple making out out]] in the turbolift. Good thing he never finds out what some SlashFic writers have him getting up to in there.
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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[TheImmodestOrgasm aggressive posturing]].

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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[TheImmodestOrgasm [[CompensatingForSomething aggressive posturing]].
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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[BoldlyComing subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow plasma burst]] it sent out might have been aggressive posturing.

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-->'''CHAKOTAY:''' If the smaller creatures are sexually attracted to our [[BoldlyComing [[JizzedInMyPants subspace emissions]], then the [[BiggusDickus large one]] may perceive us as a rival. That [[IsThatWhatTheyAreCallingItNow plasma burst]] it sent out might have been [[TheImmodestOrgasm aggressive posturing.posturing]].



-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells straight into the driver coils]].

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-->'''TORRES:''' I could try releasing [[PowerHigh power from the impulse capacitance cells cells]] [[BoldlyComing straight into the driver coils]].

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* BizarreAlienLocomotion: The space creatures propel themselves via ''[[{{Gasshole}} flatulence!]]''
-->Actually, Janeway said "flagellation." Essentially whipping their tails back and forth as a means of moving forward. In keeping with the theme of the episode, this happens to also be how sperm propels itself.

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* BizarreAlienLocomotion: The space creatures propel themselves via ''[[{{Gasshole}} flatulence!]]''
-->Actually, Janeway said "flagellation." Essentially
flagellation, essentially whipping their tails back and forth as a means of moving forward. In keeping with the theme of the episode, this happens to also be how sperm propels itself.
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-->Actually, Janeway said "flagellation." Essentially whipping their tails back and forth as a means of moving forward. In keeping with the theme of the episode, this happens to also be how sperm propels itself.
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* TeenPregnancy: According to the Doctor, this is very common for the Breen.

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