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->''“To destroy that enemy, by some means or other, the force opposed to it should be made to bear [[HeWhoFightsMonsters some analogy and resemblance]] to the force and spirit which that system exerts.”''
-->--'''Edmund Burke''' on the Jacobins
-->--'''Edmund Burke''' on the Jacobins
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->''"A few years from now, I told him, perhaps others would be killing each other for anti-nationalist ideals. Then they would laugh at our own killings just as we had laughed at the Byzantines. These others would indulge in mutual slaughter with the same enthusiasm, though [[HistoryRepeats their ideals were new]]. Warfare under the entirely fresh banners would be just as disgraceful as always. They might even rip each others' guts out then with religious zeal, claiming that they were '[[KnightTemplar fighting to end all fighting.]]' But they took would be followed by still others who would laugh at them with the same gusto."''
-->--'''Stratis Myrivilis''', ''Life in the Tomb''
-->--'''Stratis Myrivilis''', ''Life in the Tomb''
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->''"Well, you know, I've always thought that the PLO is the most corrupt and incompetent Third World movement I've ever seen. I mean, they've always ''presented'' themselves as revolutionaries waving around guns, Marx, etc.--but they're basically conservative nationalists, and they always ''were'' conservative nationalists. The rest was all pretense."''
-->--'''Noam Chomsky''' on Yassar Arafat, ''Understanding Power''
-->--'''Noam Chomsky''' on Yassar Arafat, ''Understanding Power''
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-> ''"The vessel of Revolution can arrive at port only on a sea reddened by torrents of blood."''
-->-- '''Louis Antoine de Saint-Just'''
-->-- '''Louis Antoine de Saint-Just'''
->''"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy'''
->''"Well, you know, I've always thought that the PLO is the most corrupt and incompetent Third World movement I've ever seen. I mean, they've always ''presented'' themselves as revolutionaries waving around guns, Marx, etc.--but they're basically conservative nationalists, and they always ''were'' conservative nationalists. The rest was all pretense."''
-->--'''Noam Chomsky''' on Yassar Arafat, ''Understanding Power''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy'''
->''"Well, you know, I've always thought that the PLO is the most corrupt and incompetent Third World movement I've ever seen. I mean, they've always ''presented'' themselves as revolutionaries waving around guns, Marx, etc.--but they're basically conservative nationalists, and they always ''were'' conservative nationalists. The rest was all pretense."''
-->--'''Noam Chomsky''' on Yassar Arafat, ''Understanding Power''
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-->-- '''UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy'''
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-->-- '''Louis Antoine de Saint-Just'''
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->''“Idealists and reformers all become executioners in their turn. The road to utopia ends with the steps of the scaffold, [[ReignOfTerror the endless moment of the guillotine.]]”''\\
--'''Creator/GrantMorrison''', ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles Vol. 1: Say You Want a Revolution''
--'''Creator/GrantMorrison''', ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles Vol. 1: Say You Want a Revolution''
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-->-- '''Louis Antoine de Saint-Just'''
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->''"We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans a paradise where human beings would be free and equal]]. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."''
-->--'''O'Brien''', ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''
-->--'''O'Brien''', ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''
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->''"There's one hole in every revolution, large or small … people. No matter how big the idea they all stand under, people are small and weak and cheap and frightened. It's people that kill every revolution."''
-->--'''Spider Jerusalem''', ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}''
-->--'''Spider Jerusalem''', ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}''
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->''"The passions of a revolution are apt to hurry even good men [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope into excesses.excesses]]."''
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->''"The only thing left and right have in common is a disdain for the liberals. The conservatives are now tending toward fascism — [[HobbesWasRight crack down on dissent]], [[StateSec support your local police]], [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem disobey the Supreme Court]] — while the New Left wants to destroy the entire system. Emotionally, I’m drawn to the New Left. I would certainly go to the barricades for any movement that wants to sweep away the Pentagon, ''Time'' interviews, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and frozen French fried potatoes]]. But what is to take its place? The New Left not only have no blueprint, they don’t want a blueprint. Let’s just see what happens, they say. Well, I can tell them what will happen: first anarchy, then dictatorship. They are rich in [[Creator/ThomasPaine Tom Paines]], but they have no ThomasJefferson."''
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->''"The only thing left and right have in common is a disdain for the liberals. The conservatives are now tending toward fascism — [[HobbesWasRight crack down on dissent]], [[StateSec support your local police]], [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem disobey the Supreme Court]] — while the New Left wants to destroy the entire system. Emotionally, I’m drawn to the New Left. I would certainly go to the barricades for any movement that wants to sweep away the Pentagon, ''Time'' interviews, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and frozen French fried potatoes]]. But what is to take its place? The New Left not only have no blueprint, they don’t want a blueprint. [[IndyPloy Let’s just see what happens, happens]], they say. Well, I can tell them what will happen: first anarchy, then dictatorship. They are rich in [[Creator/ThomasPaine Tom Paines]], but they have no ThomasJefferson."''
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->''"Take these guys in what are called the 'militias'--I mean, obviously they're not militias in the Second Amendment sense: 'militias' are things raised by states, these are just paramilitary organizations.... They don't read the "''Fortune 500''" and [[BatDeduction put together an analysis of what's really going on]] in the world, all they've had rammed to their heads is, 'The Federal Government's your enemy.' If you come to them with a political framework that could lead to some kind of productive change, it's all just another power-play as far as they're concerned--and with some justice: everything else they've been told is a crock, so why should they believe you?"''
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->''"Take these guys in what are called the 'militias'--I 'militias' -- I mean, obviously they're not militias in the Second Amendment sense: 'militias' are things raised by states, these are just paramilitary organizations.... They don't read the "''Fortune 500''" and [[BatDeduction put together an analysis of what's really going on]] in the world, all they've had rammed to their heads is, 'The Federal Government's your enemy.' If you come to them with a political framework that could lead to some kind of productive change, it's all just another power-play as far as they're concerned--and concerned -- and with some justice: everything else they've been told is a crock, so why should they believe you?"''
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->''"The only thing left and right have in common is a disdain for the liberals. The conservatives are now tending toward fascism — [[HobbesWasRight crack down on dissent]], [[StateSec support your local police]], [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem disobey the Supreme Court]] — while the New Left wants to destroy the entire system. Emotionally, I’m drawn to the New Left. I would certainly go to the barricades for any movement that wants to sweep away the Pentagon, ''Time'' interviews interviews, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and frozen French fried potatoes]]. But what is to take its place? The New Left not only have no blueprint, they don’t want a blueprint. Let’s just see what happens, they say. Well, I can tell them what will happen: first anarchy, then dictatorship. They are rich in [[Creator/ThomasPaine Tom Paines]], but they have no ThomasJefferson."''
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All of which said, in practice there is something grimly inevitable about riots - a toxic mixture of poverty, degradation, and summer heat that periodically and predictably combusts. 58% of those arrested in connection with the riots came from the poorest 20% of areas of England. This fact speaks volumes about the causes of the riots. And perhaps more to the point, it is not necessarily reasonable to expect people’s howl of outrage at the apparent and hopeless dead end that is their life to be orderly and productive."''
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All of which said, in practice there is something grimly inevitable about riots - -- [[PowderKegCrowd a toxic mixture of poverty, degradation, and summer heat that periodically and predictably combusts. combusts.]] 58% of those arrested in connection with the riots came from the poorest 20% of areas of England. This fact speaks volumes about the causes of the riots. And perhaps more to the point, it is not necessarily reasonable to expect people’s howl of outrage at the apparent and hopeless dead end that is their life to be orderly and productive."''
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->''"Revolution is not a tea party."''
-->-- '''MaoZedong'''
-->-- '''MaoZedong'''
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->''"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy'''
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We're [[PaintTheTownRed painted red red]] to fit right in''in"''
->''"You say you want a revolution\\
Well, you know, we all want to change the world\\
But when you talk about destruction,\\
Don't you know that you can count me out"''
-->--'''Music/JohnLennon''', "Revolution"
Well, you know, we all want to change the world\\
But when you talk about destruction,\\
Don't you know that you can count me out"''
-->--'''Music/JohnLennon''', "Revolution"
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->''"Certainly the riots were tremendously self-defeating. There is no reasonable way to claim that they were not in part, indeed, in a substantial part motivated by little more than outright anger and destructiveness. Many, indeed the overwhelming majority of people directly harmed by the riots were by any sensible standard innocent victims. And no sensible theory of political activism can really conclude that indiscriminate smashing of stuff is going to get you much of anywhere.\\\
All of which said, in practice there is something grimly inevitable about riots - a toxic mixture of poverty, degradation, and summer heat that periodically and predictably combusts. 58% of those arrested in connection with the riots came from the poorest 20% of areas of England. This fact speaks volumes about the causes of the riots. And perhaps more to the point, it is not necessarily reasonable to expect people’s howl of outrage at the apparent and hopeless dead end that is their life to be orderly and productive."''
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/07/build-high-for-happiness-night-terrors.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on the 2011 England riots
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->''"Take thee guys in what are called the "militias"--I mean, obviously they're not militias in the Second Amendment sense: "militias" are things raised by states, these are jusst paramilitary organizations.... They don't read the "''Fortune 500''" and [[BatDeduction put together an analysis of what's really going on]] in the world, all they've had rammed to their heads is, "The Federal Government's your enemy." If you come to them with a political framework that could lead to some kind of productive change, it's all just another power-play as far as they're concerned--and with some justice: everything else they've been told is a crock, so why should they believe you?"''
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->''"Take thee these guys in what are called the "militias"--I 'militias'--I mean, obviously they're not militias in the Second Amendment sense: "militias" 'militias' are things raised by states, these are jusst just paramilitary organizations.... They don't read the "''Fortune 500''" and [[BatDeduction put together an analysis of what's really going on]] in the world, all they've had rammed to their heads is, "The 'The Federal Government's your enemy." ' If you come to them with a political framework that could lead to some kind of productive change, it's all just another power-play as far as they're concerned--and with some justice: everything else they've been told is a crock, so why should they believe you?"''
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-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''
-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''
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->''I raise my flag and dye my clothes\\
It's a revolution, I suppose\\
We're painted red to fit right in''
-->--'''Radioactive''', ''Music/ImagineDragons''
It's a revolution, I suppose\\
We're painted red to fit right in''
-->--'''Radioactive''', ''Music/ImagineDragons''
->''In war, ideals can be corrupted''
-->-- '''Optimus Prime''', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''
->''"You see, The Founders ain't nothing but weeds: Cut'em down, they'll just grow back. If you wanna get rid of the weed, [[FinalSolution you got to pull it up from the root.]]"''
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
-->-- '''Optimus Prime''', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''
->''"You see, The Founders ain't nothing but weeds: Cut'em down, they'll just grow back. If you wanna get rid of the weed, [[FinalSolution you got to pull it up from the root.]]"''
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
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->"You see, The Founders ain't nothing but weeds: Cut'em down, they'll just grow back. If you wanna get rid of the weed, [[WouldHurtAChild you got to pull it up from the root.]]"
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
->''I raise my flag and dye my clothes\\
It's a revolution, I suppose\\
We're painted red to fit right in''
-->--'''Radioactive''', ''Music/ImagineDragons''
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->"You see, The Founders ain't nothing but weeds: Cut'em down, they'll just grow back. If you wanna get rid of the weed, [[WouldHurtAChild you got to pull it up from the root.]]"
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
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It's a revolution, I suppose\\
We're painted red to fit right in''
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->"You see, The Founders ain't nothing but weeds: Cut'em down, they'll just grow back. If you wanna get rid of the weed, [[WouldHurtAChild you got to pull it up from the root.]]"
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
->''I raise my flag
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-->--'''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''Playboy'' 1969
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->Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
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-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
-->--'''Daisy Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''
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-->--Colonel Saul Tigh of the New Caprican Resistance to Galen Tyrol, ''BattlestarGalactica''.
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Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me"''
-->--''Bloody Revolutions'' lyrics, by Crass.
You speak of liberation and when the people rule
Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me"''
-->--''Bloody Revolutions'' lyrics, by Crass.