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** Bob wants Al to love him.

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** Bob [[IJustWantToBeLoved wants Al to love him.him]].

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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob unknowingly has a mental illness that lowers his self-esteem, and although his parents clearly love him, he still feels like he doesn't deserve it and/or it isn't genuine. He ends up accidentally injuring or killing himself in an attempt to make his parents proud.



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* '''Downplayed''': It's important to Bob that he gain his father's approval, but it isn't a significant story element. However, it is one part of the character's drive to excel.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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It's important to Bob that he gain his father's approval, but it isn't a significant story element. However, it is one part of the character's drive to excel.
* '''Justified''':** Bob wants to gain his fathers's approval only sometimes.
** Bob will do what he wants regardless of what his father thinks, but if his father will be proud, Bob will be very glad.
** Bob's father is already proud of him and Bob wants to keep it that way.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who desperately wants the approval of another - most often his father.

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'''Basic Trope''': A character who desperately wants the approval of another - most often his father.parent(s).
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** Bob has been a troublesome kid and [[MustMakeAmends wants to make up for his behavior to please his dad.]]

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** Bob has been was a troublesome kid difficult child to Al growing and [[MustMakeAmends wants to make up for his behavior to please earn his dad.approval.]]

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** Bob wants to gain approval from not just Al, but also from his mother Carol.



** Bob has been a troublesome kid and wants to change his behavior to please his dad.

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** Bob has been a troublesome kid and [[MustMakeAmends wants to change make up for his behavior to please his dad.]]
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** Bob has been a troublesome kid and wants to change his behavior to please his dad.

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* '''Defied''': "Ah, screw it. I'm proud of you, son."

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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"Ah, screw it. I'm proud of you, son."
** "Fuck this. I don't need to waste my time pleasing parents who are hard to please.
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** EducationMama

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** EducationMamaHe has an EducationMama.
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** Bob does everything in his power to gain Al's approval, [[GloryHound disregarding the collateral damage he does to his subordinates]].

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** Bob does everything in his power to gain Al's approval, [[GloryHound disregarding the collateral damage he's even willing to use questionable or underhanded methods to get what he does to his subordinates]].wants]].

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob does everything in his power to gain Al's approval, when he barely registers on Al's radar.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Bob does everything in his power to gain Al's approval, when he barely registers on Al's radar.radar.
** Bob does everything in his power to gain Al's approval, [[GloryHound disregarding the collateral damage he does to his subordinates]].

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*** Alternatively from ''that'', Bob tries his hardest to piss off his dad Al, but no matter what he tries, Al is still proud of him and approves of everything he does.



* '''Parodied''': The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].)
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].)
** Bob gets a [=PhD=], then wins the Nobel Prize, then becomes an acclaimed Hollywood director, then becomes the President of the United States. But no matter what, Al can never remember Bob exists and must be reminded every time Bob comes up in conversation, even when other people speak of him.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Bob, an executive chef at a Michelin-starred restaurant, desperately tries to make Al proud, but Al is secretly already proud of Bob--though in Bob's encyclopedic knowledge of automobile parts, as Al hates how Bob chose to pursue the culinary arts instead of auto mechanics. Meanwhile, Al is always yelling at Bob about how he has to pay so much in taxes but quietly admires how Bob fills out those tax forms so quickly, efficiently, and without any mistakes.

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** EducationMama



* '''Enforced''':
** "I know a situation to change Bob's [[TeensAreMonsters unruly behavior]]: have him earn the respect of his dad."
** EducationMama

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'''Enforced''': "I know a situation to change Bob's [[TeensAreMonsters unruly behavior]]: have him earn the respect of his dad."
** EducationMama
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* '''Enforced''': "I know a situation to change Bob's [[TeensAreMonsters unruly behavior]]: have him earn the respect of his dad."

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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"I know a situation to change Bob's [[TeensAreMonsters unruly behavior]]: have him earn the respect of his dad.""
** EducationMama

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** Bob's mom Dahlia died when he was very young, so to him Al is the only parent he has, even if Al is a JerkAss.

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** Bob's mom Dahlia died when he was very young, so to him Al is the only parent he has, even if Al is a JerkAss.{{Jerkass}}.



** Alternatively, Bob, a total JerkAss teenager, tries his hardest to piss off his formerly-proud dad Al.

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** Alternatively, Bob, a total JerkAss teenager, {{Jerkass}} {{teen|s Are Monsters}}ager, tries his hardest to piss off his formerly-proud dad Al.



* '''Enforced''': Bob doesn't feel he needs to win Al's approval, but a third-party insists he must.

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* '''Enforced''': Bob doesn't feel he needs "I know a situation to win Al's approval, but a third-party insists he must.change Bob's [[TeensAreMonsters unruly behavior]]: have him earn the respect of his dad."



* '''Invoked''': Al's father was like that with him, and he credits the emotional distance for allowing him to succeed. So, he does the same thing with Bob.
* '''Exploited''': Al is a JerkAss who deliberately maintains a facade of emotional distance so Bob will do things for him.

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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Bob doesn't feel he needs to win Al's approval, but a third-party insists he must.
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Al's father was like that with him, and he credits the emotional distance for allowing him to succeed. So, he does the same thing with Bob.
* '''Exploited''': Al is a JerkAss {{Jerkass}} who deliberately maintains a facade of emotional distance so Bob will do things for him.



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"Seriously, it's impossible to please your parents, especially if it's your dad."
* '''Conversed''': ???"I'm not going to wait another 2 seasons until Bob gets the respect he deserves from his father!"



** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.

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** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval. approval.
** Bob was an unruly teenager who has given Al a hard time, but [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone after realizing this]], he decides to do whatever he can to gain back his father's respect, [[ReformedButRejected only for his attempts to fall on deaf ears.]]



** The JerkAss Al got his comeuppance from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.

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** The JerkAss {{Jerkass}} Al got his comeuppance is soon reprimanded from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.
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** Al tries his hardest to gain the approval of Bob, his incredibly distant son

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** [[WellDoneDadGuy Al tries his hardest to gain the approval of Bob, his incredibly distant sonson]].
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* '''Parodied''': The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].) Zagged''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].) Zagged''': ???)

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* '''Parodied''': The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].)
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Al dies without ostensibly letting Bob know that he loved him. This tears Bob up inside and causes him to lash out at everyone and everything.
** Alternatively, Al lets Bob know that he really ''doesn't'' care about him, which warps Bob psychologically.
** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob eventually comes to terms with his relationship with Al - he decides that raising him was a pretty good way to show love, even if he didn't say it all the time.
** The JerkAss Al got his comeuppance from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.

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* '''Parodied''': The workaholic or working-class son Bob tries to win the approval of his high-culture or art-focused father Al. (A good example is a Monty Python sketch called [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY Working-Class Playwright]].)
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Al dies without ostensibly letting Bob know that he loved him. This tears Bob up inside and causes him to lash out at everyone and everything.
** Alternatively, Al lets Bob know that he really ''doesn't'' care about him, which warps Bob psychologically.
** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob eventually comes to terms with his relationship with Al - he decides that raising him was a pretty good way to show love, even if he didn't say it all the time.
** The JerkAss Al got his comeuppance from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.
) Zagged''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''':
** Al dies without ostensibly letting Bob know that he loved him. This tears Bob up inside and causes him to lash out at everyone and everything.
** Alternatively, Al lets Bob know that he really ''doesn't'' care about him, which warps Bob psychologically.
** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob eventually comes to terms with his relationship with Al - he decides that raising him was a pretty good way to show love, even if he didn't say it all the time.
** The JerkAss Al got his comeuppance from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.



Maybe your dad will like you if you click [[WellDoneSonGuy this link!]]

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Maybe your "Maybe- MAYBE dad will like you me if you I click [[WellDoneSonGuy this link!]]link!]] Right? RIGHT?!"



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* '''Downplayed''': It's important to Bob that he gain his father's approval, but it isn't a significant story element. However, it is one part of the character's drive to excel.

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* '''Justified''': Bob wants Al to love him.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Bob wants Al to love him.



* '''Inverted''': Al tries his hardest to gain the approval of Bob, his incredibly distant son

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Al tries his hardest to gain the approval of Bob, his incredibly distant son



* '''Deconstructed''': Al dies without ostensibly letting Bob know that he loved him. This tears Bob up inside and causes him to lash out at everyone and everything.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Al dies without ostensibly letting Bob know that he loved him. This tears Bob up inside and causes him to lash out at everyone and everything.



* '''Reconstructed''': Bob eventually comes to terms with his relationship with Al - he decides that raising him was a pretty good way to show love, even if he didn't say it all the time.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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Bob eventually comes to terms with his relationship with Al - he decides that raising him was a pretty good way to show love, even if he didn't say it all the time.
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** Doubly alternatively, Bob receives respect and praise from Al, who is a horrible man Bob despises, making the praise little more than a cruel mockery to him.

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** Doubly alternatively, Bob receives respect and praise from Al, who is a horrible man Bob despises, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame making the praise little more than a cruel mockery to him.]]
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** Al is trying to force Bob to do things his way, but Bob just doesn't care.

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** Al is trying to force Bob to do things his way, but Bob just doesn't care.won't follow along.
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Maybe your dad will like you if you click [[The Prince of Egypt this link!]]

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Maybe your dad will like you if you click [[The Prince of Egypt [[WellDoneSonGuy this link!]]
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Back to WellDoneSonGuy - maybe my dad will like me if I make this page.

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Back to WellDoneSonGuy - maybe my Maybe your dad will like me you if I make you click [[The Prince of Egypt this page.link!]]
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** The JerkAss Al got his comeuppance from someone outside the family, and he finally see that when everyone left him, Bob is the only one who still revere him. Al TookALevelInKindness.
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** Bob's mom Dahlia died when he was very young, so to him Al is the only parent he has, even if Al is a JerkAss.


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** Bob is CallingTheOldManOut.
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** Al is trying to force Bob to do things his way, but Bob just doesn't care.
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** Doubly alternatively, Bob receives respect and praise from Al, who is a horrible man Bob despises, making the praise little more than a cruel mockery to him.
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** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satifaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.

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** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satifaction satisfaction Bob feels bitterness and even spite for the approval.
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** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satifaction Bob feels bitterness and even dispite for the approval.

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** Alternatively: After had for so long tried to gain Al's approval, Bob becomes more bitter and bitter about his father. When the day comes that Al finally express his approval, it's too late for Bob and instead of satifaction Bob feels bitterness and even dispite spite for the approval.

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