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** By not helping Alice, villains with already high potential, such as [[PsychoElectro Electro]][[EmpoweredBadassNormal -]][[TheBrute Man]], who's normally a threat to [[SpiderManSendUp Tarantu-Dude]], starts targeting ''her'', and proceeds to [[CurbstompBattle absolutely bulldoze her out of the city]]. And with nobody left to protect that city, other villains see it as a ''perfect'' opportunity to take it over and get even stronger, which means by the time Bob decides to ''finally'' help Alice, [[YouAreTooLate he's too late]], and now every villain that would normally be on the wrong end of a CurbstompBattle with him could easily turn the tables and put ''him'' in a CurbstompBattle.

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** By not helping Alice, villains with already high potential, such as [[PsychoElectro Electro]][[EmpoweredBadassNormal -]][[TheBrute Man]], who's normally a threat to [[SpiderManSendUp Tarantu-Dude]], starts targeting ''her'', and proceeds to [[CurbstompBattle absolutely bulldoze her out of the city]]. And with nobody left to protect that city, other villains see it as a ''perfect'' opportunity to take it over and get even stronger, which means by the time Bob decides to ''finally'' help Alice, [[YouAreTooLate he's too late]], and now every villain (Yes, even ''[[ADarkerMe Dark Friggin' Messiah]]'') that would normally be on the wrong end of a CurbstompBattle with him could easily turn the tables and put ''him'' in a CurbstompBattle.



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* '''Defied''': Bob decides to help Alice.

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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Bob decides to help Alice.Alice.
** Alice will make damned sure Bob will help her even if she literally has to drag him into her mess.
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** By not helping Alice, villains with already high potential, such as [[PsychoElectro Electro]][[EmpoweredBadassNormal -]][[TheBrute Man]], who's normally a threat to [[SpiderManSendUp Tarantu-Dude]], starts targeting ''her'', and proceeds to [[CurbstompBattle absolutely bulldoze her out of the city]]. And with nobody left to protect that city, other villains see it as a ''perfect'' opportunity to take it over and get even stronger, which means by the time Bob decides to ''finally'' help Alice, he's too late, and now every villain that would normally be on the wrong end of a CurbstompBattle with him could easily turn the tables and put ''him'' in a CurbstompBattle.

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** By not helping Alice, villains with already high potential, such as [[PsychoElectro Electro]][[EmpoweredBadassNormal -]][[TheBrute Man]], who's normally a threat to [[SpiderManSendUp Tarantu-Dude]], starts targeting ''her'', and proceeds to [[CurbstompBattle absolutely bulldoze her out of the city]]. And with nobody left to protect that city, other villains see it as a ''perfect'' opportunity to take it over and get even stronger, which means by the time Bob decides to ''finally'' help Alice, [[YouAreTooLate he's too late, late]], and now every villain that would normally be on the wrong end of a CurbstompBattle with him could easily turn the tables and put ''him'' in a CurbstompBattle.

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* '''Inverted''': Bob helps Alice with everything, even the things she's perfectly capable of handling on her own with minimal effort.

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* '''Inverted''': Bob helps Alice with everything, [[UnwantedAssistance even the things she's perfectly capable of handling on her own with minimal effort.effort]].



** Jester sabotaged the engines of a Metro-bound 747 to distract Bob with while he was doing his latest crime spree in Goddamn City

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** Jester sabotaged the engines of a Metro-bound 747 to distract Bob with while he was doing his latest crime spree in Goddamn CityCity.
** Alice says that she's got it under control (even if the villains there are ''tough''), and says that Bob should be focusing elsewhere.
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** The reason Bob never helps Alice (and other female supers in the setting) is revealed to be that Bob's ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend Abby has the habit of [[ScreeningTheCall screening Bob's requests for backup]].
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** By not helping Alice, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Bob inadvertently lets smaller time villains to see that Alice is a big target, take her out immediately, and grow stronger as a result]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob gets a bad reputation for not helping Alice.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Bob gets a bad reputation for not helping Alice.Alice.
** By not helping Alice, villains with already high potential, such as [[PsychoElectro Electro]][[EmpoweredBadassNormal -]][[TheBrute Man]], who's normally a threat to [[SpiderManSendUp Tarantu-Dude]], starts targeting ''her'', and proceeds to [[CurbstompBattle absolutely bulldoze her out of the city]]. And with nobody left to protect that city, other villains see it as a ''perfect'' opportunity to take it over and get even stronger, which means by the time Bob decides to ''finally'' help Alice, he's too late, and now every villain that would normally be on the wrong end of a CurbstompBattle with him could easily turn the tables and put ''him'' in a CurbstompBattle.
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** Alice doesn't calls on Bob because whenever he deals with her enemies, he seems to unleash his inner [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} Plutonian]].

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** Alice doesn't calls on Bob because whenever he deals with her enemies, he seems to unleash [[BewareTheSuperman unleash]] his inner [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} Plutonian]].
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** Jester sabotaged the engines of a Metro-bound 747 to distract Bob with while he was doing his latest crime spree in Goddamn City
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* '''Straight''': The main character is Amazing Girl, real name Alice. A sort of wannabe-superhero, who is a competent heroine and quite acrobatic, but [[BadassNormal she doesn't have any powers]] or super-technology to speak of. In the same universe, Bob, A.K.A Superio exists, who has a few nifty gadgets, a handful of useful superpowers, and is also a hero, but Bob never helps Alice.

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* '''Straight''': The main character is Amazing Girl, real name Alice. A sort of wannabe-superhero, who is a competent heroine and quite acrobatic, athletic, being able to pull off some cool acrobatics and kick ass, but [[BadassNormal she doesn't have any powers]] or super-technology to speak of. In the same universe, Bob, A.K.A Superio exists, who has a few nifty gadgets, a handful of useful superpowers, and is also a hero, but Bob never helps Alice.
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** Bob is too busy solving other problems to help Alice.

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** [[HeroOfAnotherStory Bob is too busy solving other problems to help Alice.Alice]].
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** The "Superior Superio" franchise is a PG-rated tale of superhero derring-do. The "Alice" franchise is an R-rated vigilante war with the villains being [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer hyper-violent]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sex-crazed]] drug dealers that will only stop if your splatter their brains all over a wall. As cool as fanfiction writers think it would be, there is no way Superio would be allowed to appear in the "Alice" series without [[AudienceAlienatingPremise grossing out or even scaring away some of the audience]] by [[DemographicDissonantCrossover the sudden influx of violence and the inevitable argument of why Superio doesn't deals with this kind of crap more often]].

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** The "Superior Superio" franchise is a PG-rated tale of superhero derring-do. The "Alice" franchise is an R-rated vigilante war with the villains being [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer hyper-violent]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sex-crazed]] drug dealers that will only stop if your you splatter their brains all over a wall. As cool as fanfiction writers think it would be, there is no way Superio would be allowed to appear in the "Alice" series without [[AudienceAlienatingPremise grossing out or even scaring away some of the audience]] by [[DemographicDissonantCrossover the sudden influx of violence and the inevitable argument of why Superio doesn't deals with this kind of crap more often]].



* '''Implied''': ???

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* '''Implied''': ???Alice's [[WretchedHive district]] has a far higher crime rate than the rest of the city, although it is never confirmed if Superio is trying there or not.
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** Alice doesn't calls on Bob because whenever he deals with her enemies, he seems to [[BewareTheSuperman unleash his inner]] [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} Plutonian]].

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** Alice doesn't calls on Bob because whenever he deals with her enemies, he seems to [[BewareTheSuperman unleash his inner]] inner [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} Plutonian]].
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** The bad guys are actually hoping Alice arrives because they have a trap set for her. Bob deciding not to get her involved [[SpannerInTheWorks really screws up their plans]], especially if the resources they put in place for the "destroy Amazing Girl" part [[CripplingOverspecialization greatly exceeds the ones for the "deal with the Muggles" part]].

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** The bad guys are actually hoping Alice Bob arrives because they have a trap set for her. Bob him. Alice deciding not to get her him involved [[SpannerInTheWorks really screws up their plans]], especially if the resources they put in place for the "destroy Amazing Girl" Superio" part [[CripplingOverspecialization greatly exceeds the ones for the "deal with the Muggles" part]].
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** The bad guys are actually hoping Alice arrives because they have a trap set for her. Bob deciding not to get her involved [[SpannerInTheWorks really screws up their plans]], especially if the resources they put in place for the "destroy Amazing Girl" part [[CripplingOverspecialization greatly exceeds the ones for the "deal with the Muggles" part]].
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** Things go FromBadToWorse and [[UpToEleven from worse to straight up brutal]], Bob is literally ''right there'' and does not pay Alice any mind, and she shouts at him for being lazy.

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** Things go FromBadToWorse and [[UpToEleven [[DarkestHour from worse to straight up brutal]], Bob is literally ''right there'' and does not pay Alice any mind, and she shouts at him for being lazy.
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** The "Superior Superio" franchise is a PG-rated tale of superhero derring-do. The "Alice" franchise is an R-rated vigilante war with the villains being [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer hyper-violent]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sex-crazed]] drug dealers that will only stop if your splatter their brains all over a wall. As cool as fanfiction writers think it would be, there is no way Superio would be allowed to appear in the "Alice" series without [[AudienceAlienatingPremise grossing out or even scaring away some of the audience]] by the sudden influx of violence and the inevitable argument of why Superio doesn't deals with this kind of crap more often.

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** The "Superior Superio" franchise is a PG-rated tale of superhero derring-do. The "Alice" franchise is an R-rated vigilante war with the villains being [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer hyper-violent]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sex-crazed]] drug dealers that will only stop if your splatter their brains all over a wall. As cool as fanfiction writers think it would be, there is no way Superio would be allowed to appear in the "Alice" series without [[AudienceAlienatingPremise grossing out or even scaring away some of the audience]] by [[DemographicDissonantCrossover the sudden influx of violence and the inevitable argument of why Superio doesn't deals with this kind of crap more often.often]].
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** Bob finally steps in to help Alice... and proves to be completely out of his depth on her turf, despite his greater superpowers.
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** The proper tool for the job. You don't send a Superman pastiche to deal with a malpractice lawsuit. Or being more specific, he would be good if the defendant had a billion guys with guns ready to strong-arm his way out of the lawsuit, but winning in the courtroom is a different thing.

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* '''Played for Drama''': Alice resents Bob for not helping her.

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* '''Played for Drama''': Drama''':
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* '''Played For Horror''':
** Alice completely snaps and unleashes all kinds of horrors on Bob in retaliation for his inability to help her.
** Alice is captured by her enemies and tortured, raped and/or killed in a situation that would have been prevented if Bob had been around.
** Alice doesn't calls on Bob because whenever he deals with her enemies, he seems to [[BewareTheSuperman unleash his inner]] [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} Plutonian]].
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** The "Superior Superio" franchise is a PG-rated tale of superhero derring-do. The "Alice" franchise is an R-rated vigilante war with the villains being [[TheAggressiveDrugDealer hyper-violent]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sex-crazed]] drug dealers that will only stop if your splatter their brains all over a wall. As cool as fanfiction writers think it would be, there is no way Superio would be allowed to appear in the "Alice" series without [[AudienceAlienatingPremise grossing out or even scaring away some of the audience]] by the sudden influx of violence and the inevitable argument of why Superio doesn't deals with this kind of crap more often.

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** Alice will often be sent in first. Bob will step in later however (usually closer to the climax).



* '''Played for Laughs''': Things go FromBadToWorse and [[UpToEleven from worse to straight up brutal]], Bob is literally ''right there'' and does not pay Alice any mind, and she shouts at him for being lazy.

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* '''Played for Laughs''': Laughs''':
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Things go FromBadToWorse and [[UpToEleven from worse to straight up brutal]], Bob is literally ''right there'' and does not pay Alice any mind, and she shouts at him for being lazy.lazy.
** Bob is ideal for the job, but also completely GenreBlind and believes Alice will do better.
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** Bob is technically more powerful, but also has his own set of weaknesses or limitations that would render him even more vulnerable than Alice in her situation, thus he can only really stand by and let her handle things alone.
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** The writers decide that [[StoryBreakingPowers Bob would solve the problem too quickly]] if he helped Alice.

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** The writers decide that [[StoryBreakingPowers [[StoryBreakerPower Bob would solve the problem too quickly]] if he helped Alice.
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** Bob doesn't know that Alice exists.
** Bob lives far away from Alice.

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** [[DramaticIrony Bob doesn't know that Alice exists.
or her foes exist]].
** Bob lives far away from Alice.Alice, and couldn't easily make it to her area even with his superpowers.



** The writers decide that Bob would solve the problem too quickly if he helped Alice.

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** The writers decide that [[StoryBreakingPowers Bob would solve the problem too quickly quickly]] if he helped Alice.
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** Bob is employed by the MutantDraftBoard and confined to its jurisdiction. Alice as a BadassNormal is exempt from this but, and moreover operates as a vigilante which the authorities don't support.

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** Bob is employed by the MutantDraftBoard and confined to its jurisdiction. Alice as a BadassNormal is exempt from this but, this, and moreover operates as a vigilante which the authorities don't support.
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** Bob is employed by the MutantDraftBoard and confined to its jurisdiction. Alice as a BadassNormal is exempt from this but, and moreover operates as a vigilante which the authorities don't support.

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* '''Straight''': The main character is Alice, a sort of wannabe-superhero, who is a competent heroine and quite acrobatic, but [[BadassNormal she doesn't have any powers]] or super-technology to speak of. In the same universe, Bob exists, who has a few nifty gadgets, a handful of useful superpowers, and is also a hero, but Bob never helps Alice.

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* '''Straight''': The main character is Alice, a Amazing Girl, real name Alice. A sort of wannabe-superhero, who is a competent heroine and quite acrobatic, but [[BadassNormal she doesn't have any powers]] or super-technology to speak of. In the same universe, Bob Bob, A.K.A Superio exists, who has a few nifty gadgets, a handful of useful superpowers, and is also a hero, but Bob never helps Alice.



* '''Enforced''': The writers decide that Bob would solve the problem too quickly if he helped Alice.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Where's Bob when you need him?"

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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The writers decide that Bob would solve the problem too quickly if he helped Alice.
** The "Superior Superio" franchise exist separately from the "Alice, the Amazing Girl" franchise either for legal reasons or to let viewers enjoy each character as a hero of their own story.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Where's Bob when "You know, Bob, I'd love it if you need him?"helped me out a bit more."



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* '''Implied''':'''Implied''': ???



* '''Played for Laughs''':

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* '''Played for Laughs''':Laughs''': Things go FromBadToWorse and [[UpToEleven from worse to straight up brutal]], Bob is literally ''right there'' and does not pay Alice any mind, and she shouts at him for being lazy.


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** Alice constantly fights crime expecting Bob to come out of nowhere and help her. He doesn't so she tests fate until she angers numerous crazy powerful super villains and ends up with her own RoguesGallery, who all want her dead. Now she must become stronger or die.
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'''Basic Trope''': Characters who are morally on the same side exist in the same universe, one is significantly more powerful than the other but stays out of the less powerful character's problems.
* '''Straight''': The main character is Alice, a sort of wannabe-superhero, who is a competent heroine and quite acrobatic, but [[BadassNormal she doesn't have any powers]] or super-technology to speak of. In the same universe, Bob exists, who has a few nifty gadgets, a handful of useful superpowers, and is also a hero, but Bob never helps Alice.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob is omnipotent, but Alice is clumsy and uneducated, yet Bob still has nothing to do with Alice.
** There's a whole group of heroes as powerful as Bob and neither of them help Alice.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob has a few powers and/or crazy tools but is only slightly more powerful than Alice.
** Bob sometimes helps Alice, but not very often.
* '''Justified''':
** Bob is too busy solving other problems to help Alice.
** Bob is confident in Alice's ability to fend for herself.
** Bob doesn't know that Alice exists.
** Bob lives far away from Alice.
* '''Inverted''': Bob helps Alice with everything, even the things she's perfectly capable of handling on her own with minimal effort.
* '''Subverted''': Eventually, Bob steps in to help Alice.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** But only for once.
** That turns out not to be Bob, but an impostor.
* '''Parodied''': Bob is just too lazy to help Alice, even though he otherwise doesn't act lazy.
* '''Zigzagged''':
** Sometimes Bob helps Alice, other times not.
** There are several characters more powerful than Alice. Some help, some don't.
* '''Averted''':
** Nobody is more powerful than Alice or less powerful than Bob.
** Bob does help Alice.
* '''Enforced''': The writers decide that Bob would solve the problem too quickly if he helped Alice.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Where's Bob when you need him?"
* '''Invoked''':
** Bob decides not to help Alice.
** Bob's superior forbids him from helping Alice.
* '''Exploited''':
** By not helping Alice, Bob solves another, more important problem.
** The villain bad-mouths Bob by pointing out that he never helps Alice.
* '''Defied''': Bob decides to help Alice.
* '''Discussed''': "If I became a superhero, would the more powerful ones help me or not?"
* '''Conversed''': "How come we never see the way more powerful characters help out, even if they're on the same side?!"
* '''Implied''':
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob gets a bad reputation for not helping Alice.
* '''Reconstructed''': He has good reasons for not helping her, and people come to realize that.
* '''Played for Laughs''':
* '''Played for Drama''': Alice resents Bob for not helping her.
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