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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist who is highly emotional intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of the universe, and is like a father to his grad students. Flora is a methodical, perfectionist wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy entered her field for the money]] but gives it her all regardless.
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** Archibald is a physicist who is highly emotional intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of the universe, and is like a father to his grad students. Flora is a methodical, perfectionist wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy entered her field for the money]] but gives it her allregardless.regardless.
** Archibald is a warm-hearted and ironically MotherlyScientist who uses his scientific knowledge to spread kindness for all living things. Flora is a nature-lover, but believes that NatureIsNotNice and is coldly pragmatic about her treatment of animals.
** Archibald is a physicist who is highly emotional intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of the universe, and is like a father to his grad students. Flora is a methodical, perfectionist wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy entered her field for the money]] but gives it her all
** Archibald is a warm-hearted and ironically MotherlyScientist who uses his scientific knowledge to spread kindness for all living things. Flora is a nature-lover, but believes that NatureIsNotNice and is coldly pragmatic about her treatment of animals.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers and [[BeepingComputers makes beep and boop noises in regular conversation]]. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers and [[BeepingComputers makes beep and boop noises [[MachineMonotone talks like a stereotypical robot in regular conversation]]. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers and [[BeepingComputers regularly makes beeps and boops in regular conversation]]. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers and [[BeepingComputers regularly makes beeps beep and boops boop noises in regular conversation]]. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers.supercomputers and [[BeepingComputers regularly makes beeps and boops in regular conversation]]. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie came from a poor family who saw a degree in the sciences as a key to wealth and success. Flora's family are [[BourgeoisBohemian Bourgeois Bohemians]] who passed on their gardening hobby to her and she turned it into a career.
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** Archie came from a poor family who saw a degree in the sciences as a key to wealth and success. Flora's family parents are [[BourgeoisBohemian Bourgeois Bohemians]] who passed on their gardening hobby to her and she turned it into a career.
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* '''Parodied''': Sex-change operations come with a free TVGenius computer-brain transplant (for female-to-male operation) or LoveFreak heart transplant (for male-to-female changes).
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Sex-change operations come with a free TVGenius computer-brain transplant (for female-to-male operation) or LoveFreak heart transplant (for male-to-femalechanges).changes).
** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
** Sex-change operations come with a free TVGenius computer-brain transplant (for female-to-male operation) or LoveFreak heart transplant (for male-to-female
** Archie is an over-the-top "galaxy brain" who can out-math multiple supercomputers. Flora's inexplicably strong [[FriendToAllLivingThings bond with nature]] makes even [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princesses]] look pathetic by comparison.
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** Archie came from a poor family who saw a degree in the sciences as a key to wealth and success. Flora's family are [[BourgeoisBohemian Bourgeois Bohemians]] who passed on their gardening hobby to her and she turned it into a career.
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** [[TransTribulations Arlene and Florence transition. After presenting as straight examples of this trope for much of their lives, they find that they are not taken seriously by their peers post-transition]] because [[DoubleStandard they don't act like "proper" women/men]].
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** [[TransTribulations Arlene and Florence transition. After presenting as straight examples of this trope for much of their lives, they find that they are not taken seriously by their peers post-transition]] because [[DoubleStandard they don't act like "proper" women/men]].
examples of their genders]].
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist who is highly emotional intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of the universe, and is like a father to his grad students. Flora is a methodical, perfectionist wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy got into her field for the money]] but gives it her all regardless.
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist who is highly emotional intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of the universe, and is like a father to his grad students. Flora is a methodical, perfectionist wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy got into entered her field for the money]] but gives it her all regardless.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': They're both complex human beings and their interactions reveal a lot about each other. Archie has random bouts of consideration, selflessness, and appreciation of beauty, while Flora occasionally manages to calm down and solve a problem with truly brilliant reasoning. Archie eventually confides in her that he's well aware his dismissal of "emotional" reasoning is a defence mechanism for his own discomfort in that realm, and Flora that she sometimes deliberately acts out when she feels that she's not being taken seriously, even though it tends to be counterproductive.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': They're both complex human beings and their interactions reveal a lot about each other. Archie has random bouts of consideration, selflessness, and appreciation of beauty, while Flora occasionally manages to calm down and solve a problem with truly brilliant reasoning. Archie eventually confides in her that he's well aware his dismissal of "emotional" reasoning is a defence defense mechanism for his own discomfort in that realm, and Flora that she sometimes deliberately acts out when she feels that she's not being taken seriously, even though it tends to be counterproductive.
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* '''Played For Drama:''' Archibald and Flora are now pushing 70 and both look back on their lives. Archibald might have achieved a lot career-wise and won a Nobel prize for his work but he has no family and no actual friend because nobody enjoys his company, not even the nurses who take care of his waning health who avoid talking to him unless necessary. Flora doesn't score much better, the CrazyCatLady that she is now, as menopause really took its toll on her mental health and she can no longer interact with other people without flying into hysterics.
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* '''Played For Drama:''' Drama:'''
** Archibald and Flora are now pushing 70 and both look back on their lives. Archibald might have achieved a lot career-wise and won a Nobel prize for his work but he has no family and no actual friend because nobody enjoys his company, not even the nurses who take care of his waning health who avoid talking to him unless necessary. Flora doesn't score much better, the CrazyCatLady that she is now, as menopause really took its toll on her mental health and she can no longer interact with other people without flying into hysterics.
** [[TransTribulations Arlene and Florence transition. After presenting as straight examples of this trope for much of their lives, they find that they are not taken seriously by their peers post-transition]] because [[DoubleStandard they don't act like "proper" women/men]].
** Archibald and Flora are now pushing 70 and both look back on their lives. Archibald might have achieved a lot career-wise and won a Nobel prize for his work but he has no family and no actual friend because nobody enjoys his company, not even the nurses who take care of his waning health who avoid talking to him unless necessary. Flora doesn't score much better, the CrazyCatLady that she is now, as menopause really took its toll on her mental health and she can no longer interact with other people without flying into hysterics.
** [[TransTribulations Arlene and Florence transition. After presenting as straight examples of this trope for much of their lives, they find that they are not taken seriously by their peers post-transition]] because [[DoubleStandard they don't act like "proper" women/men]].
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist with great emotional intelligence, an office full of plants, and a paternal relationship to his grad students. Flora is a cold, perfectionist wedding-cake baker who got into it for the money and [[ChildHater hates children]].
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist with great who is highly emotional intelligence, an office full intelligent, waxes poetic about the beauty of plants, the universe, and is like a paternal relationship father to his grad students. Flora is a cold, methodical, perfectionist wedding-cake wedding cake baker who [[MoneyDearBoy got into it her field for the money and [[ChildHater hates children]].
money]] but gives it her all regardless.
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener whojust can't struggles to deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] amoral]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who
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** Archibald turns out to be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
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** Archibald initially seems cold but turns out to be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he better. He really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Archie worries that they're walking clichés, but Flora reassures him that they are who they are, and there's nothing inherently wrong with either of their personalities as long as they keep an eye on their flaws.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a {{Comedic Sociopath|y}} MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]].
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a {{Comedic Sociopath|y}} MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Archie worries that they're walking clichés, but Flora reassures him nobody's perfect and that they are who they are, and there's nothing inherently wrong with either of their personalities as long as they keep an eye on their flaws.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a {{Comedic Sociopath|y}} MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]]. Both are planning to take over the world.
* '''Played For Drama:''' Archibald and Flora are now pushing 70 and both look back on their lives. Archibald might have achieved a lot career-wise and won a Nobel prize for his work but he has no family and no actual friend because nobody enjoys his company, not even the nurses who take care of his waning health who avoid talking to him unless necessary. Flora doesn't score much better, the CrazyCatLady that she is now, as menopause really took its toll on her mental health and she can no longer interact with other people without flying into hysterics.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a {{Comedic Sociopath|y}} MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]]. Both are planning to take over the world.
* '''Played For Drama:''' Archibald and Flora are now pushing 70 and both look back on their lives. Archibald might have achieved a lot career-wise and won a Nobel prize for his work but he has no family and no actual friend because nobody enjoys his company, not even the nurses who take care of his waning health who avoid talking to him unless necessary. Flora doesn't score much better, the CrazyCatLady that she is now, as menopause really took its toll on her mental health and she can no longer interact with other people without flying into hysterics.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and [[FragileFlower bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and [[FragileFlower [[ProneToTears bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much]].
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No Gender Theory preaching, thanks.
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* '''Justified''': Archie was raised by strict parents who encouraged him to excel in school but were dismissive of his emotional needs. Flora grew up in a family that was very close and loving, but rather anti-intellectual.
* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Archie was raised by strict parents who encouraged him to excel in school but were dismissive of his emotional needs. Flora grew up in a family that was very close and loving, but rather anti-intellectual.
** Archibald and Flora went into their careers when they were firmly monogender, and social gender roles were similarly constrictive. As a result, they ended up developing very distinct professional outlooks.
* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist with great emotional intelligence, an office full of plants, and a paternal relationship to his grad students. Flora is a cold, perfectionist wedding-cake baker who got into it for the money and [[ChildHater hates children]].
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
** Archie was raised by strict parents who encouraged him to excel in school but were dismissive of his emotional needs. Flora grew up in a family that was very close and loving, but rather anti-intellectual.
** Archibald and Flora went into their careers when they were firmly monogender, and social gender roles were similarly constrictive. As a result, they ended up developing very distinct professional outlooks.
* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a physicist with great emotional intelligence, an office full of plants, and a paternal relationship to his grad students. Flora is a cold, perfectionist wedding-cake baker who got into it for the money and [[ChildHater hates children]].
* '''Gender-Flipped''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
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** Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
** Archibard is a [[TheStoic stoic]] scientist and Flora is a NatureHero. However it turns out NatureIsNotNice and her moral code more in line with BlueAndOrangeMorality if she even has a moral code at all. And Archibard is case of "DidYouThinkICantFeel".
** Archibard is a [[TheStoic stoic]] scientist and Flora is a NatureHero. However it turns out NatureIsNotNice and her moral code more in line with BlueAndOrangeMorality if she even has a moral code at all. And Archibard is case of "DidYouThinkICantFeel".
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** Archibald is turns out to be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
**Archibard Archibald is a [[TheStoic stoic]] scientist and Flora is a NatureHero. However it turns out NatureIsNotNice and her moral code more in line with BlueAndOrangeMorality if she even has a moral code at all. And Archibard Archibald is case of "DidYouThinkICantFeel".
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* '''Zig Zagged''': They're both complex human beings and their interactions reveal a lot about each other. Archie has random bouts of consideration, selflessness, and appreciation of beauty, while Flora occasionally manages to calm down and solve a problem with truly brilliant reasoning.reasoning. Archie eventually confides in her that he's well aware his dismissal of "emotional" reasoning is a defence mechanism for his own discomfort in that realm, and Flora that she sometimes deliberately acts out when she feels that she's not being taken seriously, even though it tends to be counterproductive.
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* '''Enforced''': ???"We want a scientist toy to sell to the boys and a dolly with lots of nice outfits to sell to the girls. WHADDYA MEAN, "DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY ROUND"?!?
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* '''Invoked''': Archibald and Flora are siblings, and their parents specifically raised him to be interested in science and her to be interested in nature.
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* '''Invoked''': Archibald and Flora are siblings, and their Flora's respective parents specifically raised him to be interested in science and her to be interested in nature.
nature, reasoning that they'd have better career prospects if they didn't try to swim against the current.
* '''Exploited''':???Archie plays the rational genius and Flora the emotional mother-figure because they each believe they'll get more respect from their peers by fitting those roles.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and [[OddCouple become a great team]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, Archie worries that they're walking clichés, but Flora reassures him that they balance out each other's flaws are who they are, and [[OddCouple become a great team]].there's nothing inherently wrong with either of their personalities as long as they keep an eye on their flaws.
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* '''Invoked''': ???Archibald and Flora are siblings, and their parents specifically raised him to be interested in science and her to be interested in nature.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and [[OddCouple become a great team.team]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Archibald is a surgeon, while Flora is a historian.
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* '''Downplayed''': Archibald is a surgeon, while surgeon and Flora is a historian.historian. They generally rely on logic and intuition respectively, but their fields require use of both to at least some extent.
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Was the "bitch" really necessary?
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless bitch]] of a physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
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* '''Inverted''': Archibald is a gentle and kind gardener who just can't deal with his emotions. Flora is a [[EmotionlessGirl cold]] and [[JerkAss heartless bitch]] of a heartless]] physicist who can figure out just about anything in her field of expertise.
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* '''Parodied''': ???Sex-change operations come with a free TVGenius computer-brain transplant (for female-to-male operation) or LoveFreak heart transplant (for male-to-female changes).
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* '''Conversed''': ???"Alice is most probably TheHeart while Bob is TheSpock in this duo. That's how TV likes to portray boys and girls."
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* '''Subverted''': Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what shewants]].wants]].
** Archibard is a [[TheStoic stoic]] scientist and Flora is a NatureHero. However it turns out NatureIsNotNice and her moral code more in line with BlueAndOrangeMorality if she even has a moral code at all. And Archibard is case of "DidYouThinkICantFeel".
** Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she
** Archibard is a [[TheStoic stoic]] scientist and Flora is a NatureHero. However it turns out NatureIsNotNice and her moral code more in line with BlueAndOrangeMorality if she even has a moral code at all. And Archibard is case of "DidYouThinkICantFeel".
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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a [[ComedicSociopathy Comedic Sociopath]] MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]].
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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a [[ComedicSociopathy Comedic Sociopath]] {{Comedic Sociopath|y}} MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents]].
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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a [[ComedicSociopathy Comedic Sociopath]] MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents.
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* '''Played For Laughs:''' Archibald is a [[ComedicSociopathy Comedic Sociopath]] MadScientist. Flora is TheDitz, a LoveFreak, and [[HystericalWoman prone to comically extreme overreactions to minor incidents.incidents]].
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That\'s a downplayed inversion, not a downplayed straight version.
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* '''Downplayed''': Flora Archibald is a surgeon, while Archibald Flora is a historian.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is a doctor, while Bob is a philosopher.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice Flora is a doctor, surgeon, while Bob Archibald is a philosopher.historian.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and [[GoodIsDumb bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and [[GoodIsDumb [[FragileFlower bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much]].
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* '''Straight''': Archibald, a brilliant philosopher and scientist, is [[TheStoic cold]], [[InsufferableGenius condescending]], and prone to MeasuringTheMarigolds. He meets Flora, a [[FriendToAllLivingThings gentle and kind horticulturist]], who doesn't understand much about science and finds it hard to make decisions because she's often overwhelmed by her emotions.
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* '''Straight''': Archibald, a brilliant philosopher and scientist, is [[TheStoic cold]], [[InsufferableGenius condescending]], and prone to MeasuringTheMarigolds. He meets Flora, a [[FriendToAllLivingThings gentle and kind horticulturist]], who doesn't understand much about science and finds it hard to make decisions because she's often overwhelmed by her emotions.
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* '''Subverted''': Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
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* '''Subverted''': Archibald is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who went into science ''because'' he [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome deeply appreciates the beauty of nature]] and wanted to understand it better, and he really does want to [[ScienceHero use science to make a better world for everyone]]. Flora, on the other hand, is a cynical BitchInSheepsClothing who [[WoundedGazelleGambit pretends to be overwhelmed by her emotions]] only because [[ManipulativeBastard it helps her get what she wants]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': We're shown how Archie, growing up, was taught to ruthlessly [[MenDontCry repress his emotions]] and value only hard logic [[IWantToBeARealMan because that's what a Real Man does]], gradually becoming cunning, cold, and heartless. Flora, meanwhile, was told that she shouldn't bother studying science or math because girls aren't good at that stuff, and learned that since no one respected her thoughts, the only way to get people to listen to her was to become hysterical. As a result, both of them end up as bitter, miserable and thoroughly unlikeable adults.
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
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* '''Deconstructed''': We're shown how Archie, growing up, was taught to ruthlessly [[MenDontCry repress his emotions]] and value only hard logic [[IWantToBeARealMan because that's what a Real Man does]], gradually becoming cunning, cold, and heartless. Flora, meanwhile, was told that she shouldn't bother studying science or math because girls aren't good at that stuff, and learned that since no one respected her thoughts, the only way to get people to listen to her was to become hysterical. As a result, both of them end up as bitter, miserable and thoroughly unlikeable adults.
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.'''Parodied''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
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* '''Averted''': Archie and Flora are people with no special inclination towards science and neither is especially over-emotional.
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** Archie and Flora are people with no special inclination towards science and neither is especiallyover-emotional. over-emotional.
** Archie and Flora are people with no special inclination towards science and neither is especially
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* '''Deconstructed''': We're shown how Archie, growing up, was taught to ruthlessly [[MenDontCry repress his emotions]] and value only hard logic [[IWantToBeARealMan because that's what a Real Man does]], gradually becoming cunning, cold, and heartless. Flora, meanwhile, was told that she shouldn't bother studying science or math because girls aren't good at that stuff, and learned that since no one respected her thoughts, the only way to get people to listen to her was to become hysterical. As a result, both of them end up as bitter, miserable and thoroughly unlikeable adults.
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
* '''Reconstructed''': Archie is brilliant, but sometimes loses sight of emotional issues in his zeal for logic. Flora is empathetic and kind, but often finds it hard to take action or think things through calmly because she's so easily overwhelmed by her emotions. Together, though, they balance out each other's flaws and become a great team.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and [[GoodIsDumb bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much.much]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[TheMengele performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Archibald won a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking scientific achievements, but he made his discoveries by [[TheMengele [[MadScientist performing horrific experiments on human test subjects]], and he's [[ForScience perfectly fine with that fact]], dismissing human suffering as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood "trivial" and "irrelevant" collateral damage]]. Flora is a kind and selfless charity worker who runs a no-kill animal shelter, but as she's cowardly, terrible at handling the budget, [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute only wants to save cute animals]], and bursts into tears any time she has to make a decision, her efforts to do good in the world don't really accomplish much.
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** Alternatively, they are ''both'' good at science and work in the same discipline, in addition to being good and compassionate people. The story also explores the idea of the supposed "conflict" between nature and science, and concludes that the conflict is an imaginary one, since science is, in fact, the study of nature.