History PlayingWith / GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel

** "Bob stepped on an egg in the Cretaceous period, and that's why the Nazis won." '''''"Well that seems rather silly..."''''' "Yeah [[MirthlessLaughter ha ha ha]]... So anyways... uh, since LifeImitatesArt and sci-fi seems to suggest that our timeline is the ''only'' one in which Hitler lost, even the most trivial of changes to it [[RubberBandHistory will result in the an]] AlternateHistoryNaziVictory, as [[TheMenInBlack we]] learned the hard way, it's true! [[MikeNelsonDestroyerOfWorlds Bob]] ruined history! [[MortonsFork And yes, the list of 'changes' includes]] ''[[MortonsFork actively preventing a Nazi victory]]''! You see, after Bob did his thing, we sent operatives backwards through time to not only assassinate [[UsefulNotes.AdolfHitler Hitler]], but also Goebbels, Himmler, and ''anyone'' who has ever dealt fairly with the Nazis, so, yes, that [[CommieNazis includes]] [[UsefulNotes.JosefStalin Josef Stalin]] and Osker Schindler too. [[SerialEscalation And then]] [[DestructiveSavior we burned down the]] Reichstag, {{Unperson}} every BlackShirt and the Hitler Youths, and, [[CrazyPrepared for good measure]], completely eradicate the ''idea'' of racism altogether. So this means, eviscerate [[UsefulNotes.AmericanCivilWar the Confederacy]] and the KKK, Leopold II, Martin Luther- the ''original'' one from the 16th century, and so on. Anyhow, all this effort to set the timeline on the right track [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness would have been so out of character for us]]- [[TheGhost we prefer to be subtle, you see]]- that, in the future, the only way our [[GovernmentConspiracy agency]] would ever [[GodzillaThreshold resort to such measures]] would for it to have had it's history [[{{Retcon}} retroactively altered]] by time, in such a way that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters we would become a Neo-Nazi organization]] who would eventually send [[GroundhogDayLoop Bob backwards through time]] to [[MortonsFork ensure that Hitler wins]]... [[AllForNothing It's almost as though someone is playing with our lives]]...

** Nazi Germany is actually shockingly hard to achieve and easy to prevent. The reparations need to be just high enough to push Germany too far but not high enough to cripple Germany or provoke mercy. The smallest change can cause the rise of Nazi Germany to be short-circuited. [[ForWantOfANail Stealing coffee from a judge can result in Hitler and his co-conspirators being sentenced to death and dying in ignominy as traitors]], let alone if Adolf Hitler got into art school.

* '''Discussed''': "I don't even know what could go wrong if I just looked around Vienna in the first decade of the 20th century...oh, right, ''he'' lives here."

** Bobby [=McTrope=]'s interference in the past ends up causing the Nazi Party to quickly collapse and never gain the infamy it has today. Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}'s article on Hitler is nonexistent.

** Upon interacting with Adolf and returning from his expedition through time, Bobby opens up the newspaper to find that his home country has become a fascist police regime! "...Whew, nothing's changed!"

** As soon as Bobby crosses the threshold over 1941, he feels himself beginning to be [[Film/BackToTheFuture erased from existence]] because his great-grandfather was killed at Pearl Harbor before fathering Bobby's grandfather, thereby also eliminating his mother and, through her, himself.

* '''Deconstructed''': Even when time travel actively aids them, the Nazis cannot win the war because of all the [[FascistButInefficient internal issues]] of Nazi Germany, and by their own racism. Giving them technology is pointless because they don't have factories or the materials to make it. Even if you do, you run into the problem of the several and often competing science groups, while also not being able to bring back which requires and understanding of science revolutionized by Jewish scientists (including UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein). Future battle plans may save them in the short term but will quickly become useless as failed battles and campaigns lead entirely different battle plans and campaigns. Assassination attempts using information on political leaders real locations, since most of the various (also constantly in fighting) German spy agencies are working for the Allies. All anyone can do is extend the war, with a constant struggle against the RedsWithRockets in the Ural Mountains until the U.S. can start bringing in their "[[NuclearOption final solution]]".

** [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct While The rise of Nazi Germany cannot be stopped]] it is impossible for them to succeed as well. Doing better in the war will only result in Germany getting nuked into surrender or oblivion by whoever researchs it first. Even their own scientests will decide that [[ShootTheDog the world would be better off without their country]].

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'''Basic Trope''': "The first rule of time travel is that any and all modifications made to the timeline result in [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] winning UsefulNotes/WorldWarII."
* '''Straight''': Bobby [=McTrope=] has a thirst for adventure and is [[BookDumb too lazy to]] ''[[BookDumb read]]'' [[BookDumb his history book]] in order to write an essay for school. Knowing that his new neighbor is a MadScientist with a Spacetime-Traversing Pogo Stick, Bobby steals it and hops into the past. He ends up in Austria in 1905 and meets a nice, artistic young man named "Adolf". When Bobby leaves and goes back to his own time, he discovers that ThoseWackyNazis won WWII and conquered the world because Bobby left his history book in the past and his friend Adolf used it as a user's guide to dictatorship.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Bobby [=McTrope=] leaves his history book in the past, but flubs up his return to his own time and ends up several centuries in the future. In the year 2589 not only are the Nazis conquerors of the world, but they've claimed the whole ''galaxy'' as part of the Third Reich. ''And Hitler is still alive!!''
** Bobby's entire interaction with Hitler consists of waving hello as they pass each other on the street. This is ([[HandWave somehow]]) ''still'' enough of a ButterflyOfDoom for complete Nazi domination of the world.
** Bobby [[ButterflyOfDoom steps on a butterfly]] in the middle of the Atacama Desert in 10,000 B.C. His time-travel machine's computer triple-checks and it won't cause the extinction of mankind or tornadoes in Jerusalem or the extinction of cats or some other doomsday scenario. Bobby even goes as far as go back in time and prevent himself from stepping on it, just in case. When he arrives to 2019, the Nazis have not only have taken over the world, but the party somehow was created during the times of (and stands in place of) the Holy Roman Empire.
* '''Downplayed''': On his return trip Bobby finds out that the Nazi Party is still active, still runs Germany, and has conquered most of Western Europe.
* '''Justified''':
** Bobby [=McTrope=] is a Neo-Nazi and intentionally goes back to help Hitler win the war.
** Bobby never learned the rules of time travel.
** It turns out Hitler winning WWII was actually the original timeline. Revisions are applied in the order a time traveler was born to the 'original' timeline. If a person is [[RetGone eradicated through paradox]] their changes to the timeline are automatically undone the next time someone time travels.
* '''Inverted''':
** Hitler tricks Bobby [=McTrope=] into giving him the Spacetime-Traversing Pogo Stick and then uses it to go to the future and try to conquer the world.
** Bobby goes to the past and accidentally leaves his history book where [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt President Roosevelt]] can find it. He comes home to find that America has conquered the world!
** Bobby [=McTrope=]'s interference in the past ends up causing the Nazi Party to quickly collapse and never gain the infamy it has today. Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}'s article on Hitler is nonexistent.
** Bobby [=McTrope=]'s interference in the past ends up making the Soviets "win" the UsefulNotes/ColdWar.
** Bobby is a Neo-Nazi who purposely tries to manipulate the past so that Hitler wins World War II. He gets increasingly frustrated when his attempts never work.
** Nazi Germany is actually shockingly hard to achieve and easy to prevent. The reparations need to be just high enough to push Germany too far but not high enough to cripple Germany or provoke mercy. The smallest change can cause the rise of Nazi Germany to be short-circuited. [[ForWantOfANail Stealing coffee from a judge can result in Hitler and his co-conspirators being sentenced to death and dying in ignominy as traitors]], let alone if Adolf Hitler got into art school.
** [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct While The rise of Nazi Germany cannot be stopped]] it is impossible for them to succeed as well. Doing better in the war will only result in Germany getting nuked into surrender or oblivion by whoever researchs it first. Even their own scientests will decide that [[ShootTheDog the world would be better off without their country]].
** Bobby [[=McTropehaus=]] is such a hard-core Neo-Nazi that he goes back in time and does everything necessary to bring Nazi victory -- he assassinates presidents, augments diplomatic relationships amongst the Axis powers, [[GivingRadioToTheRomans gifts advanced technologies]], establishes a perfect network of spies and saboteurs, helps set bases throughout the Solar System, uses a KillSat network to wipe out a few key cities and stealth vehicles to wipe out all supply lines and uses a cloning machine to augment the numbers of the Heer [[ZergRush a literal billion-fold]] on top of making them all [[SuperSoldier super-soldiers]]. The work takes so many pains to have him establish said victory that [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow it would take literal divine intervention to make the Axis bleed, let alone win against it]]. And when he comes back home to 3976, he discovers that [[HandWave through means now lost to time]], Germany lost the war a week after Bobby left.
* '''Subverted''': Bobby [=McTrope=] leaves his history book in the past with Adolf Hitler, but after reading the book, Hitler, disgusted to learn of the crimes he will commit in the original timeline, actively goes out of his way not to become a dictator. Hitler lives an average life without any notoriety, whether good or bad, and dies after a very long, fulfilling life.
* '''Double Subverted''': Although Hitler led an unassuming life, another German, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Victor der Nacht]], rose in power and formed a fascist political party known as the Nazis. He was a more charismatic, more strategically adept leader and general than Hitler ever could be and he conquered the world.
* '''Parodied''':
** Bobby takes the Spacetime-Traversing Pogo Stick back in time just one week, and spends his extra time swimming with a girl in Fiji. When he returns, the German Empire won UsefulNotes/WorldWarI.
** Bobby altered an event in 1960, resulting in the Nazis winning World War II, despite the fact that the war finished 15 years earlier.
** Bobby goes back to a barren wasteland in 1938, stays there for five seconds, then departs after saying "This is so boring and useless. I'm going back to my own time." He leaves no apparent trace of having ever stood where he so briefly did. When he returns to the present, Hitler has won WWII.
** Bobby meets and converses with his future self from a minute forward in time. He then goes back in time one minute, and ends up talking to a Nazi version of himself.
* '''Zig Zagged''':
** Some random alterations to the timeline will cause Germany to win WWII, while others will cause the Nazi Party never to gain power.
** Bobby [=McTrope=] goes home after leaving his book lying around, but the young Hitler loses it before he can read it. It travels around Austria and Germany for fifteen years before it falls into the hands of an older, seasoned anti-Semitic German politician -- who believes its entire contents are worthless fiction and throws it away.
** Alternatively, continuing from '''Double Subverted:''' Hitler learns of Victor der Nacht, and meets a Jewish resistance group. Together, they overthrow Victor der Nacht before he could conquer the world, and the world remembers Hitler as a hero.
* '''Averted''': Bobby [=McTrope=] goes back in time and on the return trip everything is exactly as he left.
* '''Enforced''': The author wishes to [[FantasticAesop showcase the dangers of time travel]].
* '''Lampshaded''': "I went back in time and accidentally gave Hitler what he needs to win UsefulNotes/WorldWarII! Everything else is pretty much the same, though..."
* '''Invoked''': {{God}} set off the Big Bang and decreed that if any of His creations should travel back in time and alter what was written, "The inverse outcome shall arise."
* '''Exploited''': Realizing that Bobby is from the future, Hitler tricks him into giving information about the future.
* '''Defied''': The time traveler knows exactly how to change the past without accidentally aiding the Nazis.
* '''Discussed''': "I don't even know what could go wrong if I just looked around Vienna in the first decade of the 20th century...oh, right, ''he'' lives here."
* '''Conversed''': "At least ''Bobby Got Back'' was historically-inspired fiction. Some people need a good scare like that to comprehend how easily a CrapsackWorld could have arisen from the ashes of TheForties."
* '''Implied''':
** Bobby comes home to find his teacher speaking to his parents about his academic lassitude; she addresses them, however, as "Mr. and Mrs. ''Tropelhaus''" rather than "Mr. and Mrs. [=McTrope=]".
** Bobby goes back to bed immediately upon coming home. When he wakes up, his father is standing over him sporting Hitler's trademark toothbrush moustache and tries to HandWave this by explaining "It's been in fashion for decades, Bobby!"
* '''Deconstructed''': Even when time travel actively aids them, the Nazis cannot win the war because of all the [[FascistButInefficient internal issues]] of Nazi Germany, and by their own racism. Giving them technology is pointless because they don't have factories or the materials to make it. Even if you do, you run into the problem of the several and often competing science groups, while also not being able to bring back which requires and understanding of science revolutionized by Jewish scientists (including UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein). Future battle plans may save them in the short term but will quickly become useless as failed battles and campaigns lead entirely different battle plans and campaigns. Assassination attempts using information on political leaders real locations, since most of the various (also constantly in fighting) German spy agencies are working for the Allies. All anyone can do is extend the war, with a constant struggle against the RedsWithRockets in the Ural Mountains until the U.S. can start bringing in their "[[NuclearOption final solution]]".
* '''Reconstructed''': The American nuclear waste rained upon Germany [[NiceJobBreakingItHero mutates all the survivors into nigh-invincible monster warriors]] who remain just as loyal to Hitler as before, and the Allies just can't compensate for the new abilities afforded the Wehrmacht. Crushing defeat after crushing defeat follows as the Nazis turn back the tide, and finally [[UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill Prime Minister Churchill]] accedes to all of Hitler's demands.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bobby's meddling caused {{Grammar Nazi}}s, not true Nazis, to take over the world.
* '''Played For Drama''':
** Those selfsame Grammar Nazis, though ostensibly innocuous, immediately ostracize Bobby because their official government policy discourages his scholastic ineptitude.
** As soon as Bobby crosses the threshold over 1941, he feels himself beginning to be [[Film/BackToTheFuture erased from existence]] because his great-grandfather was killed at Pearl Harbor before fathering Bobby's grandfather, thereby also eliminating his mother and, through her, himself.
* '''Played For Horror''': Bobby [=McTrope=] is Jewish and lives in New York City. When he returns from his trip through time, he's tossed in the Liberty Island concentration camp.
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** Bobby's entire interaction with Hitler consists of waving hello as they pass each other on the street. This is (HandWave somehow]]) ''still'' enough of a ButterflyOfDoom for complete Nazi domination of the world.

* '''Exaggerated''': Bobby [=McTrope=] leaves his history book in the past, but flubs up his return to his own time and ends up several centuries in the future. In the year 2589 not only are the Nazis conquerors of the world, but they've claimed the whole ''galaxy'' as part of the Third Reich. ''And Hitler is still alive!!''

** It turns out Hitler winning WWII was actually the original timeline. Revisions are applied in the order a time traveler was born to the 'original' timeline. If a person is [RetGone eradicated through paradox]] their changes to the timeline are automatically undone the next time someone time travels.