History PlayingWith / DumbassHasAPoint

* '''Invoked''': Susan suspects Bob isn't nearly as stupid as others seem to believe, so she stages a situation where she can see if her intuition is right.

** Bob's observation due to being the only one not to have [[Didn'tThinkThisThrough tunnel visioned onto solving only the, currently critical, internal factors]], makes the rest realize there will still be external factors to deal with.

** Bob is [[ObfuscatingStupidity only pretending to be stupid]].

** It turns out Bob isn't a dumbass at all and that's normal a smart decision to make, he was just in the middle of an IdiotBall beforehand.

* '''Subverted''': Bob is simply parroting what he heard earlier from Dan's friend Emmett, not actually understanding the content.
* '''Double Subverted''': When someone calls Bob out on this, he simply keeps going on - making his own convincing, heartfelt arguments.

* '''Played For Horror''': Bob told the group that it was a bad idea to enter the woods because they looked scary and there were a lot of scary stories about them. He told them repeatedly. They ignored him because, well, he is Bob the village idiot, when has he ever been right about anything? As for the slaughter that ensues, they only have themselves to blame.

* ''Untwisted'': Bob is revealed to be [[FeigningIntelligence much less intelligent then he seems]] given most of his wisdom is parroting phrases he doesn't understand. That doesn't mean he is incorrect given he is parroting the correct sources.

* '''Exploited''': ???

* '''Straight''': Ben is usually slow to realize things that ought to be obvious and consistently makes foolish statements. However, in a moment of sharpness, even he finds what Dan is going to do so stupid he can present a really compelling reason for Dan to change his course of action.
* '''Exaggerated''': Ben only passed the comprehensive school by the virtue of his impatient father bribing a headmaster, has no social intelligence whatsoever, does and says the stupidest of things over and over again even after he's been told several times in a perfectly clear fashion not to repeat them and so on. However, in an extremely rare moment of lucidity, he presents at least ten compelling arguments for why what Dan is going to do would be stupid and better alternatives with solid justifications, to the point of philosophizing and stealing everyone's breath.
* '''Downplayed''': Although Ben wasn't certainly dumb, he was rather lazy in his international politics study, and didn't get as good a mark as his friends did. One day, one of Ben's friends, Dan, suggested a solution for a diplomatic incident, only for Ben to disagree, and with justifications and alternate solutions, which turned out to be completely valid. This was to the surprise of everyone else, as they least expected the party animal Ben to have such insight.

** Ben is [[ObfuscatingStupidity only pretending to be stupid]].
** Ben has secretly been becoming more intelligent. Others only haven't seen a glimpse of it until that moment.
** Ben is under an influence of something that actually momentarily or permanently increased his intelligence.

** Ben may be a moron, but [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman what do you know]], the current situation is the one for which he has ''some'' degree of knowledge.

* '''Subverted''': Ben is simply parroting what he heard earlier from Dan's friend Emmett, not actually understanding the content.
* '''Double Subverted''': When someone calls Ben out on this, he simply keeps going on - making his own convincing, heartfelt arguments.
* '''Parodied''': The team pet, Oscar the dog, gets so annoyed with the stupid suggestions his team mates make he breaks the fourth wall to complain to the author, and makes a good suggestion of his own.
* '''Zig Zagged''': The dumb Ben presents a sensible point, but it's simply him regurgitating what he heard earlier. However, he follows up on it with convincing arguments of his own - admitting soon he actually has had no idea at all what he's been talking about - then someone smarter states he still had a point to take note of and backs it up with stronger arguments.
* '''Averted''': Ben is none the wiser and never gets any flashes of insight.

** "The viewers aren't watching the show because they find Ben overly-moronic. We need to show that he's capable of being intelligent to stop them from being alienated."

* '''Invoked''': Susan suspects Ben isn't nearly as stupid as others seem to believe, so she stages a situation where she can see if her intuition is right.

* '''Deconstructed''': Dan goes through with a plan that fails on a spectacular note that when Ben tells his idea, in a huge CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot.
* '''Reconstructed''': Dan actually tries his plan again with Ben's idea, hoping it will work this time.

** Ben may be a moron, but [[ThisIsAJobForAquaman what do you know]], the current situation is the one for which he has ''some'' degree of knowledge.

* '''Downplayed''': Although Ben wasn't certainly dumb, he was rather lazy in his international politics study, and didn't get a very good mark as his friends did. One day, one of Ben's friend, Dan, suggested a solution for a diplomatic incident, only for Ben to disagree, and with justifications and alternate solutions, which turned out to be completely valid. This was to the surprise of everyone else, as they least expected the party animal Ben to have such insight.

%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???

* '''Enforced''': "the viewers desert the sitcom because they find Ben overly-caricatured. it's needs that he say something intelligent
** we will teach a lesson at viewers . "You should always listen everybody, because even the people that you found stupid, can say intelligent sentences.

* '''Enforced''': ???

* '''Parodied''': The team pet, Oscar the dog, gets so annoyed with the stupid suggestions his team mates make, he breaks the fourth wall to complain to the author, and makes a good suggestion of his own.

* '''Parodied''': ???

* '''Downplayed''': ???

* '''Deconstructed''': Dan goes through with a plan that fails on a spectacular note that when Ben tells his idea, in a huge CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot.
* '''Reconstructed''': ???

* '''Lampshaded''': ''Where did that piece of smartness come from?''

* '''Defied''': ''Please understand that while stupid people can have moments of wisdom, it's still usually rare. Don't expect him to be wise at the right moment.''

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* '''Deconstructed''': Dan goes through with a plan that fails on a spectacular note that when Ben tells his idea, it becomes a huge WeCouldHaveAvoidedAllThis.

* '''Justified''': Ben is [[ObfuscatingStupidity only pretending to be stupid]].

* '''Zig Zagged''': The bumb Ben presents a sensible point, but it's simply him regurgitating what he heard earlier. However, he follows up on it with convincing arguments of his own - admitting soon he actually has had no idea at all what he's been talking about - then someone smarter states he still had a point to take note of and backs it up with stronger arguments.

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