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* Derpy Hooves is nothing but this trope. A five-second shot has a pony with FishEyes in the background, and the fans [[MemeticBystander create an entire character based on her]]. She was part of a group interested in having some muffins when they were served to a group of ponies (the word "muffins" matches the lipsynching of at least one, possibly two other ponies), and [[TrademarkFavoriteFood everyone went with it]]; her toys' boxes even frequently feature muffins, and later appearances would list her name as "Muffins" in the credits. She drops [[AmusingInjuries a bunch of things on Twilight]], and she's TheKlutz. And don't even ''start'' on when [[AscendedMeme her appearance]] in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup "The Last Roundup"]] was edited to remove her being called by name and changed her voice and eyes[[note]]Though her original voice was due to a misunderstanding; her voice actor thought she was a boy[[/note]]; absolutely nobody involved -- including several people ''[[{{Misblamed}} not]]'' involved -- have been allowed to live it down, with [[DisproportionateRetribution death threats]] thrown around left and right.

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* Derpy Hooves is nothing but this trope. A five-second shot has a pony with FishEyes in the background, and the fans [[MemeticBystander create an entire character based on her]]. She was part of a group interested in having some muffins when they were served to a group of ponies (the word "muffins" matches the lipsynching of at least one, possibly two other ponies), and [[TrademarkFavoriteFood everyone went with it]]; her toys' boxes even frequently feature muffins, and later appearances would list her name as "Muffins" in the credits. She drops [[AmusingInjuries a bunch of things on Twilight]], and she's TheKlutz. And don't even ''start'' on when [[AscendedMeme her appearance]] in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup "The Last Roundup"]] was edited to remove her being called by name and changed her voice and eyes[[note]]Though her original voice was due to a misunderstanding; her voice actor thought she was a boy[[/note]]; absolutely nobody involved -- including several people ''[[{{Misblamed}} not]]'' involved -- have been allowed to live it down, with [[DisproportionateRetribution death threats]] thrown around left and right.
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* Derpy Hooves is nothing but this trope. A five-second shot has a pony with FishEyes in the background, and the fans [[MemeticBystander create an entire character based on her]]. She was part of a group interested in having some muffins when they were served to a group of ponies (the word "muffins" matches the lipsynching of at least one, possibly two other ponies), and [[TrademarkFavoriteFood everyone went with it]]; her toys' boxes even frequently feature muffins. She drops [[AmusingInjuries a bunch of things on Twilight]], and she's TheKlutz. And don't even ''start'' on when [[AscendedMeme her appearance]] in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup "The Last Roundup"]] was edited to remove her being called by name and changed her voice and eyes[[note]]Though her original voice was due to a misunderstanding; her voice actor thought she was a boy[[/note]]; absolutely nobody involved -- including several people ''[[{{Misblamed}} not]]'' involved -- have been allowed to live it down, with [[DisproportionateRetribution death threats]] thrown around left and right.

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* Derpy Hooves is nothing but this trope. A five-second shot has a pony with FishEyes in the background, and the fans [[MemeticBystander create an entire character based on her]]. She was part of a group interested in having some muffins when they were served to a group of ponies (the word "muffins" matches the lipsynching of at least one, possibly two other ponies), and [[TrademarkFavoriteFood everyone went with it]]; her toys' boxes even frequently feature muffins.muffins, and later appearances would list her name as "Muffins" in the credits. She drops [[AmusingInjuries a bunch of things on Twilight]], and she's TheKlutz. And don't even ''start'' on when [[AscendedMeme her appearance]] in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup "The Last Roundup"]] was edited to remove her being called by name and changed her voice and eyes[[note]]Though her original voice was due to a misunderstanding; her voice actor thought she was a boy[[/note]]; absolutely nobody involved -- including several people ''[[{{Misblamed}} not]]'' involved -- have been allowed to live it down, with [[DisproportionateRetribution death threats]] thrown around left and right.
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** The Human Cutie Mark Crusaders will never live down their cyberbullying of Sunset Shimmer. The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID moment -- the Human CMC [[HeelRealization fully own up to and apologize for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]]. It was also mentioned that the CMC could [[RealityEnsues never fully take it back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted]], and they received six months of detention for it. Meanwhile, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].

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** The Human Cutie Mark Crusaders will never live down their cyberbullying of Sunset Shimmer. The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID a OnceDoneNeverForgotten moment -- the Human CMC [[HeelRealization fully own up to and apologize for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]]. It was also mentioned that the CMC could [[RealityEnsues never fully take it back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted]], and they received six months of detention for it. Meanwhile, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].
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* Lyra Heartstrings was once seen sitting on her haunches (like a human would) in "Dragonshy". Since then, you can't swing your arm without hitting a fanfic, music video, comic, or some other fan work depicting Lyra as a human-obsessed fanatic bent on proving humanity's existence, gaining hands, or becoming human herself. Lyra isn't even the only pony to ever sit like that. Future episodes depict more ponies sitting in similar ways, and it appears to be normal behavior in their world. But Lyra's the only one who ever gets the "obsessed with humanity" treatment.

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* Lyra Heartstrings was once seen sitting on her haunches (like a human would) in "Dragonshy". Since then, After that, you can't couldn't swing your arm without hitting a fanfic, music video, comic, or some other fan work depicting Lyra as a human-obsessed fanatic bent on proving humanity's existence, existence in Equestria, gaining hands, hands instead of hooves, or becoming human herself. Lyra isn't wasn't even the only pony to ever sit like that. Future that; future episodes depict more ponies sitting in similar ways, and it this way of sitting appears to be normal behavior in their world. But Lyra's the only one who ever gets gots the "obsessed with humanity" treatment.



* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result: nearly every fan art of her includes tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase "for realsies", despite saying it a total of one time in the movie.

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* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result: nearly every fan art of her includes including tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase Sonata Dusk's CatchPhrase was "for realsies", despite saying it a grand total of one time ''once'' throughout all ''My Little Pony'' media in the movie.which she appeared.
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* Twilight acting LawfulStupid and [[OutOfCharacterMoment refusing to use her magic to help her friends]], despite her never acting this way in the show. Even later comics where [[CharacterRerailment she's back to normal]], which came off as [[AuthorsSavingThrow deliberate attempts to atone]], are used as examples of how the creators don't care about constancy.

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* Twilight acting LawfulStupid and [[OutOfCharacterMoment refusing to use her magic to help her friends]], friends]] in an issue dealing with buffalo in the Wild West, despite her never acting this way in the show. Even later comics where [[CharacterRerailment she's back to normal]], which came off as [[AuthorsSavingThrow deliberate attempts to atone]], are used as examples of how the creators don't care about constancy.consistency.

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* Their having Twilight be LawfulStupid and [[OutOfCharacterMoment refusing to use her magic to help her friends]], despite her never acting this way in the show. Even later comics where [[CharacterRerailment she's back to normal]], which came off as [[AuthorsSavingThrow deliberate attempts to atone]], are used as examples of how they don't care about constancy.
* An odd variation in the Human Cutie Mark Crusaders and their cyberbullying in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 the 2014 Equestria Girls Holiday Special]]. The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID moment, where despite [[HeelRealization fully owning up to and apologizing for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]], it was mentioned that the CMC could [[RealityEnsues never fully take it back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted]], and they received six months of detention. Instead, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].
** Some fans also won't let Sunset's friends live down turning on her when she was framed for said cyberbullying, even though they did try to defend Sunset before doing so and ultimately hear her out. Many fics, be them {{Fix Fic}}s or {{Betrayal Fic}}s, paint them as being awful people for betraying Sunset. Despite, as some of these fics even point out, having good reasons for not trusting Sunset. There appeared to be solid evidence against her[[note]]Yes, the impostor account seems obvious to the older half of the fandom, but Sunset's "[[InformedAbility devious manipulation skills]]" in the first movie were just as obvious and was a major source of mockery before she became a beloved BreakoutCharacter[[/note]], and even beyond that, you can't really blame anyone for suspecting that someone who has bullied and manipulated everyone around them for years has gone back to doing it again after only two months of good behavior, good deeds be damned.

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* Their having Twilight be acting LawfulStupid and [[OutOfCharacterMoment refusing to use her magic to help her friends]], despite her never acting this way in the show. Even later comics where [[CharacterRerailment she's back to normal]], which came off as [[AuthorsSavingThrow deliberate attempts to atone]], are used as examples of how they the creators don't care about constancy.
* An odd variation in the Human Cutie Mark Crusaders and their cyberbullying in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 the The 2014 Equestria Girls Holiday Special]]. Special]] has easily inspired more fan works on it than any other ''My Little Pony'' comic book, albeit not for the reasons the creators wanted. Many a fan work has been created about this one issue of the comic, and the characters involved in the story have become indelibly linked to its events in the ''Equestria Girls'' fandom.
** The Human Cutie Mark Crusaders will never live down their cyberbullying of Sunset Shimmer.
The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID moment, where despite moment -- the Human CMC [[HeelRealization fully owning own up to and apologizing apologize for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]], it jealousy]]. It was also mentioned that the CMC could [[RealityEnsues never fully take it back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted]], and they received six months of detention. Instead, detention for it. Meanwhile, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].
** Some fans also won't let Sunset's friends the rest of the Rainbooms live down turning on her Sunset Shimmer when she was framed for said cyberbullying, being Anon-A-Miss, even though they the Rainbooms did try to defend Sunset before doing so and ultimately hear her out. Many fics, be them they {{Fix Fic}}s or {{Betrayal Fic}}s, paint them the Rainbooms as being awful people for betraying Sunset. Despite, as some of these fics even point out, not believing Sunset, despite having good reasons for not trusting Sunset. Sunset (as some of these fics even point out). There appeared to be solid evidence against her[[note]]Yes, her -- yes, the impostor account seems obvious to the older half of the fandom, but Sunset's "[[InformedAbility devious manipulation skills]]" in the first movie were just as obvious obvious, and was a major source of mockery towards Sunset before she became a beloved BreakoutCharacter[[/note]], BreakoutCharacter.
** Sunset Shimmer herself has become known quite a bit for this issue, despite being the victim
and forgiving the Human CMC at the end of the story. To see some {{Fix Fic}}s or {{Betrayal Fic}}s tell it, Sunset will never get over being framed for being Anon-A-Miss by the Human CMC or for her friends betraying her. Even though Sunset [[NotMeThisTime truly was innocent in the cyberbullying]], her reputation still had a long way to go before she was accepted by the rest of Canterlot High School, and Sunset openly admits she can see why people think it was her. Yet to hear some fanfics tell it, Sunset is incredulous that her friends wouldn't believe her (even though the Rainbooms did defend Sunset at first until evidence pointed towards her), [[RonTheDeathEater demonizing the Rainbooms]] while sanctifying Sunset. Some fics even beyond that, you can't really blame anyone for suspecting have Sunset be DrivenToSuicide by the accusation, in spite of the fact that someone who has bullied and manipulated everyone she ends the comic in a good place with the Rainbooms. Even fan works that don't revolve around them for years has gone back the Anon-A-Miss story have been known to doing bring it again after only two months of good behavior, good deeds be damned.up.
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** She banished somepony to the moon ''once'' -- a {{Mad God}}dess and SuperPoweredEvilSide of her sister Luna named Nightmare Moon, whose scheme would have killed all life in Equestria had it succeeded. Even then, Celestia only did it with the help of [[EmpathicWeapon the Elements of Harmony]]. This doesn't stop numerous fans from depicting Celestia as solving all her problems by banishing them to the moon, and even having her own CatchPhrase ([[WebAnimation/FriendshipIsMagicBitch "TO THE]] [[Series/TheHoneymooners MOOOOOOOOOOOON!]] [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch BEEYETCH!"]]).

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** She banished somepony to the moon ''once'' -- a {{Mad God}}dess and SuperPoweredEvilSide of her sister Luna named Nightmare Moon, whose scheme would have killed all life in Equestria had it succeeded. Even then, Celestia only did it with the help of [[EmpathicWeapon the Elements of Harmony]].Harmony]], and in the episode where this banishment is shown, Celestia is clearly torn up by having to [[ShootTheDog banish her own sister to protect her people]]. This doesn't stop numerous fans from depicting Celestia as solving all her problems by banishing them to the moon, and even having her own CatchPhrase ([[WebAnimation/FriendshipIsMagicBitch "TO THE]] [[Series/TheHoneymooners MOOOOOOOOOOOON!]] [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch BEEYETCH!"]]).

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* Pinkie Pie being a sadistic serial killer who may or may not have severe childhood trauma, based on her SanitySlippage in "Party of One", compounded by a [[FanFic/{{Cupcakes}} certain infamous fanfic]]. Never mind that in the episode she was, at most, bipolar/manic depressive, which is many times more likely to result in ''self''-harm than any violent tendencies.

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* Pinkie Pie being a sadistic serial killer who may or may not have severe childhood trauma, based on her SanitySlippage in "Party of One", compounded by a [[FanFic/{{Cupcakes}} certain infamous fanfic]]. Never mind that in the episode she was, at most, bipolar/manic depressive, which is many times more likely to result in ''self''-harm than any violent tendencies. While Pinkie has certainly been sad before, she's largely remembered for this one time where she temporarily shut herself from everyone else.
** This also created the character of "Pinkamena" (based on Pinkie's full name), which is either a vicious alter-ego or a SuperPoweredEvilSide of Pinkie's, based on the same fanfic. Not only does Pinkie never act like this in the show, she [[MisaimedFandom didn't even act this way in the fic it's supposedly based on]]; Pinkie acting her usual cheerful self while doing horrific things was supposed to show how insane she was. Having an evil alter-ego would cheapen the horror. Didn't stop the fans from creating an entire character around it, even though the character never showed up in the show itself or the fic it's supposed to be from.



** She banished somepony to the moon ''once'' (a {{Mad God}}dess whose scheme would have killed all life in Equestria), and even then only with the help of [[EmpathicWeapon the Elements of Harmony]]. This doesn't stop numerous fans from depicting her as solving all her problems by banishing them to the moon, and even having her own CatchPhrase ([[WebAnimation/FriendshipIsMagicBitch "TO THE]] [[Series/TheHoneymooners MOOOOOOOOOOOON!]] [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch BEEYETCH!"]]).
** Before that, she (and Luna, which no-one seems to remember) turned [[GodOfEvil Discord]] to stone... after he conquered Equestria and turned it into a nightmarish WorldGoneMad. Naturally this led to depictions of "turn it to stone" being her answer to every problem that can't be solved with "send it to the moon". (Funnily enough, Discord seems to think this In-Universe. "Unlike you, ''I don't turn ponies to stone!''")
** Luna herself has been hit with this. Her return in Season 2's ''Luna Eclipsed'' has her speaking in [[AntiquatedLinguistics fairly accurate archaic english]] and having many outdated customs to drive home the point of how utterly out of touch she has been with civilization since her imprisonment as Nightmare Moon. While she's been learning to speak in more modern english and no longer acts in such a hammy way, several fanfictions have portrayed her as speaking in nothing but pure ancient english all the time, even struggling with modern vocabulary, and frequently acting like an individual of the middle-ages even in an increasingly changing modern Equestria. It doesn't help that, in the show itself, there are post-season 2 episodes [[DependingOnTheWriter where she can either speak with more modern terms and more frecuent contractions or in downright]] SpockSpeak with a few old terms thrown in.
* Rainbow Dash said "twenty percent cooler" once, and "ten seconds flat" twice. To a lot of fans, they might as well be her {{Catch Phrase}}s. The former was finally referenced again after ''four years'' in ''Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks'', where she says "twenty percent less cool." And even then it's not the pony Rainbow, but her human counterpart.
* Twilight will ''never'' live down her SanitySlippage (notice a pattern?) in "Lesson Zero". In fairness, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKkA7JJS6bM it was terrifying]]. However, not only did Twilight have some basis for SanitySlippage in "Swarm of the Century", but she did it again in "It's About Time". Furthermore, she is slowly learning to control it as of "Games Ponies Play". The fans have spoken about her mental health, and the writers are listening.
* Shining Armor did a FastballSpecial with his wife Cadance exactly once, in a life-or-death situation where there was basically no other option. (And it worked, saving Spike from certain death and the Crystal Empire from enslavement by King Sombra.) Since then, the fandom only knows him as "Wife Thrower" (albeit [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome affectionately]]).
* Lyra Heartstrings has once been seen sitting on her haunches (like a human would) on a park bench in "Dragonshy". Since then, you can't swing your arm without hitting a fanfic, music video, comic, or some other fan work depicting Lyra as a human-obsessed fanatic, bent on proving humanity's existence, gaining hands, or becoming human herself.
** Ironically, Lyra isn't even the only pony to sit like that. Future episodes depict more ponies sitting "like humans" and appears to be normal behavior in their world.

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** She banished somepony to the moon ''once'' (a -- a {{Mad God}}dess and SuperPoweredEvilSide of her sister Luna named Nightmare Moon, whose scheme would have killed all life in Equestria), and even then Equestria had it succeeded. Even then, Celestia only did it with the help of [[EmpathicWeapon the Elements of Harmony]]. This doesn't stop numerous fans from depicting her Celestia as solving all her problems by banishing them to the moon, and even having her own CatchPhrase ([[WebAnimation/FriendshipIsMagicBitch "TO THE]] [[Series/TheHoneymooners MOOOOOOOOOOOON!]] [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch BEEYETCH!"]]).
** Before that, she Celestia (and Luna, which no-one seems to remember) turned [[GodOfEvil Discord]] to stone... after he conquered Equestria and turned it into a nightmarish WorldGoneMad. Naturally Naturally, this led to depictions of "turn it to stone" being her answer to every problem that can't be solved with "send it to the moon". (Funnily enough, Discord seems to think this In-Universe. "Unlike you, ''I don't turn ponies to stone!''")
** * Luna herself has been hit with this. Her return in Season 2's ''Luna Eclipsed'' "Luna Eclipsed" has her speaking in [[AntiquatedLinguistics fairly accurate archaic english]] English]] and having many outdated customs customs, all to drive home the point of how utterly out of touch she has been with civilization since her imprisonment as Nightmare Moon. While she's been learning to speak in more modern english English and no longer acts in such a hammy way, several fanfictions have portrayed her Luna as speaking in nothing but pure ancient english YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe all the time, even struggling with modern vocabulary, and frequently acting like an individual of the middle-ages middle-ages, even in an increasingly changing modern Equestria. It doesn't help that, that in the show itself, there are post-season 2 episodes [[DependingOnTheWriter where she can either speak with more modern terms and more frecuent frequent contractions or in downright]] SpockSpeak with a few old terms thrown in.
* Rainbow Dash said "twenty percent cooler" once, twice and "ten seconds flat" twice. twice throughout the show's run, often seasons apart. To a lot of fans, they these might as well be her {{Catch Phrase}}s. Phrase}}s that she says all the time. The former was finally referenced again after ''four years'' four years from its first use in ''Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks'', where she says "twenty percent less cool." And even then then, it's not the pony Rainbow, but her human counterpart.
* Twilight will ''never'' live down her SanitySlippage (notice a pattern?) in "Lesson Zero". In fairness, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKkA7JJS6bM it was terrifying]]. However, not only did Twilight have some basis for SanitySlippage Sanity Slippage in "Swarm of the Century", but she did it again in "It's About Time". Furthermore, she is slowly learning to control it as of "Games Ponies Play". The fans have spoken about her mental health, and the writers are listening.
* Shining Armor did a FastballSpecial with his wife Cadance exactly once, once in a life-or-death situation where there was basically no other option. (And it worked, saving Spike from certain death and the Crystal Empire from enslavement by King Sombra.) Since then, the fandom only knows him Shining Armor as "Wife Thrower" (albeit [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome affectionately]]).
* Lyra Heartstrings has was once been seen sitting on her haunches (like a human would) on a park bench in "Dragonshy". Since then, you can't swing your arm without hitting a fanfic, music video, comic, or some other fan work depicting Lyra as a human-obsessed fanatic, fanatic bent on proving humanity's existence, gaining hands, or becoming human herself.
** Ironically,
herself. Lyra isn't even the only pony to ever sit like that. Future episodes depict more ponies sitting "like humans" in similar ways, and it appears to be normal behavior in their world.world. But Lyra's the only one who ever gets the "obsessed with humanity" treatment.



* The Season 3 premiere featured a villain who was intended to be a sinister and ominous presence in the vein of [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]], but whom many fans interpreted as being an ineffective OrcusOnHisThrone. It looked like poor Sombra would never get to redeem himself in the eyes of the fandom, as he is the only villain on the show to have been KilledOffForReal. This changed with the season 5 finale, where a BadFuture where he wasn't defeated showed him as a frighteningly competent overlord, leading a brainwashed army capable of fighting the rest of Equestria to a standstill.
* Princess Cadance will never live down not inviting Spike, one of the key figures in saving the very empire she rules, to the preparations for the Equestria Games. In the episode "Equestria Games", she invited Spike to light the torch at the opening ceremony - and later the fireworks at the closing ceremony, giving up her own place to do so, but many fans still won't let Cadance forget the previous snub.

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* The Season 3 premiere featured King Sombra, a villain who was intended to be a sinister and ominous presence in the vein of [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]], but whom many fans interpreted as being an ineffective OrcusOnHisThrone. It looked like poor Sombra would never get to redeem himself in the eyes of the fandom, as he is the only villain on the show to have been KilledOffForReal. This changed with the season 5 finale, where a BadFuture where he wasn't defeated showed him as a frighteningly competent overlord, leading a brainwashed army capable of fighting the rest of Equestria to a standstill.
* Princess Cadance will never live down not inviting Spike, Spike -- one of the key figures in saving the very empire she rules, rules -- to the preparations for the Equestria Games. In the episode "Equestria Games", she invited Spike to light the torch at the opening ceremony - and later the fireworks at the closing ceremony, giving up her own place to do so, but many fans still won't let Cadance forget the previous snub. Some fan works even go so far as to depict Cadance as racist against dragons, when she's never shown any hint of such a thing in canon, where she's an AllLovingHero.



* Soarin' the Wonderbolt had his first real debut scene in the season one finale: "Best Night Ever" where he enthusiastically purchases an apple pie from Applejack. This resulted in many fans flanderizing him into being some kind of pie-addict. Said flanderzation became canon in "Rarity Investigates!" where he's shown sloppily eating a pie.
* Applejack's Gen 1 counterpart was made famous for being the subject of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUgUu2_gBc a song]] in a ''My Little Pony'' cassette tape from the '80s which is about her being a "silly pony".[[note]]This wasn't even part of G1 canon, but just a limited-edition piece of TheMerch.[[/note]] The silly pony trait has been projected onto the Gen 4 Applejack by fans on account of her sleep deprivation and exhaustion in exactly ''one'' episode. Note that FIM AJ ''is'' somewhat accident-prone and goofy, but no more so than nearly every other pony in the slapstick-heavy series.
* Rainbow Dash's G3 counterpart is best known for being a fashionista from G3.5, supported by the infamous line "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" in the ThemeTuneRollCall. G4 Rainbow Dash is shown to be the complete opposite of liking fancy clothes though any time she dresses up in the show, it will evoke her G3.5 fashion persona.
* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result was, nearly every fan art of her includes tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase "for realsies", despite saying it a total of one time in the movie.

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* Soarin' Soarin the Wonderbolt had his first real debut scene in the season one finale: finale "Best Night Ever" Ever", where he enthusiastically purchases an apple pie from Applejack. This resulted in many fans flanderizing him into being some kind of pie-addict. Said flanderzation became canon in "Rarity Investigates!" where he's shown sloppily eating a pie.
* Applejack's Gen 1 counterpart was made famous for being the subject of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUgUu2_gBc a song]] in a ''My Little Pony'' cassette tape from the '80s which is about her being a "silly pony".[[note]]This wasn't even part of G1 canon, but just a limited-edition piece of TheMerch.[[/note]] The silly pony trait has been projected onto the Gen 4 Applejack by fans on account of her sleep deprivation and exhaustion in exactly ''one'' episode. Note that FIM AJ ''is'' the ''Friendship is Magic'' version of Applejack is somewhat accident-prone and goofy, but no more so than [[SlapstickKnowsNoGender nearly every other pony in the this slapstick-heavy series.
series]].
* Rainbow Dash's G3 counterpart is best known for being a fashionista from G3.5, supported by the infamous line "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" in the ThemeTuneRollCall. G4 Rainbow Dash is shown to be the complete opposite opposite, as a LovableJock with a dislike of liking dressing in fancy clothes though any clothes. Any time she Rainbow does were a dress, the "always dresses up in the show, it style" line will evoke her G3.5 fashion persona.
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* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result was, result: nearly every fan art of her includes tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase "for realsies", despite saying it a total of one time in the movie.



* When the preview to "Flutter Brutter" was released, the PeripheryDemographic got a first glimpse at Zephyr Breeze... and they were ''not'' amused at his characterization. When he turned out to be a lazy, manipulative jerk, they immediately accused the show of painting them as ThisLoserIsYou. The backlash died down after the episode aired where it turns out he's just a JerkassWoobie with a crippling fear of failure, but some fans will still remember him from their first interpretation.

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* When the preview to "Flutter Brutter" was released, the PeripheryDemographic got a first glimpse at Zephyr Breeze... and they were ''not'' amused at his characterization. When he turned out to be a lazy, manipulative jerk, they immediately accused the show of painting them as ThisLoserIsYou. The backlash died down after the episode aired where it turns out he's just a JerkassWoobie with a crippling fear of failure, but some fans will still remember him Zephyr from their first interpretation.interpretation, even if it doesn't match how he's depicted.



* An... odd variation in the Human Cutie Mark Crusaders and their cyberbullying in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 the 2014 Equestria Girls Holiday Special]]. The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID moment, where despite [[HeelRealization fully owning up to and apologizing for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]], it was mentioned that the CMC could never fully take it back and they received six months of detention. Instead, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].

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* An... An odd variation in the Human Cutie Mark Crusaders and their cyberbullying in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 the 2014 Equestria Girls Holiday Special]]. The comic's resolution was an in-universe NLID moment, where despite [[HeelRealization fully owning up to and apologizing for creating Anon-A-Miss and framing Sunset for it]] over what amounts to [[GreenEyedMonster petty jealousy]], it was mentioned that the CMC could [[RealityEnsues never fully take it back back, since they couldn't magically delete everything everyone had posted]], and they received six months of detention. Instead, the fandom saw the Human CMC as being more EasilyForgiven than their pony selves despite [[AdaptationalVillainy being more antagonistic]], despite that detention possibly being the harshest punishment any redeemed villain has received in the franchise. So both the canon ''and'' fanon pull this trope; the fandom just double-downs on it by [[DisproportionateRetribution making their punishments in fan fiction even more severe]].
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* ExBigBad Sunset Shimmer never expects to live down transforming into "a raging she-demon," mind-controlling Canterlot High as teenage zombies for her own personal army, and being an AlphaBitch who made every other students' life miserable for years in the first ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' film. A RunningGag [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks the second movie]] is that even the only people willing to hang out with Sunset constantly bring it up against her, much to her dismay. It isn't until the third film that people stop regularly discussing it, and the fourth film until she's comfortable enough to joke about it herself.
* This is the entire plot of the Season 6 episode "Newbie Dash" -- Rainbow Dash, upon finally making the Wonderbolts proper, is given the call-sign "Rainbow Crash" after nearly getting ran over and landing into a trash can. However, "Rainbow Crash" was the insulting name she got at flight school, and instead of telling the Wonderbolts the sordid past of that name, tries to force a new name from them.
* Both Season 6 and 7 have Starlight constantly reminded of her villainous misdeeds, though it's more of off-handed comments that Starlight would really wish was not brought up. Considering this is the closest thing to punishment she got, fans on the other hand tend to see it as cathartic.
* Twilight, at one point, heavily condemns Trixie and considers her a bad influence on Starlight. Trixie and Starlight even joke about their mutual histories as former jerks who had since found redemption.
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** Fans will not let Twilight's friends, her brother Shining Armor, and Celestia calling out and ditching her after the accusation scene, with a throwaway apology from Applejack afterwards. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for her suspicious behavior]], and Twilight being a jerk about it even before she had a reason to be suspicious, had no proof for her claims, and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was wrongly paranoid]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were simply leaving her out of the wedding, which would’ve been harmless if not for the Changeling invasion. This also ignores that Shining Armor was implied to be brainwashed by "Cadance”, and Twilight's friends [[FourthWallMyopia not knowing of or seeing what the audience and Twilight's saw]], and "Cadance" making offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to win Twilight’s friends’ trust]].

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** Twilight's friends, her brother Shining Armor, and Celestia calling out and ditching her despite her claims that [[{{Doppelganger}} "Cadance"]] was evil being correct with only a throwaway apology from Applejack. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for her suspicious behavior]], and Twilight being a jerk about it even before she had a reason to be suspicious, had no proof for her claims, and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was wrongly paranoid]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were simply leaving her out of the wedding, which would’ve been harmless if not for the Changeling invasion. This also ignores that Shining Armor was implied to be brainwashed by "Cadance”, and Twilight's friends [[FourthWallMyopia not knowing of or saw what proved to audiences Twilight's suspicions were kind of right]] and "Cadance" making offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to win their trust]].

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** Fans will not let Twilight's friends, her brother Shining Armor, and Celestia calling out and ditching her despite her claims that [[{{Doppelganger}} "Cadance"]] was evil being correct after the accusation scene, with only a throwaway apology from Applejack.Applejack afterwards. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for her suspicious behavior]], and Twilight being a jerk about it even before she had a reason to be suspicious, had no proof for her claims, and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was wrongly paranoid]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were simply leaving her out of the wedding, which would’ve been harmless if not for the Changeling invasion. This also ignores that Shining Armor was implied to be brainwashed by "Cadance”, and Twilight's friends [[FourthWallMyopia not knowing of or saw seeing what proved to audiences the audience and Twilight's suspicions were kind of right]] saw]], and "Cadance" making offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to win their Twilight’s friends’ trust]].
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** Twilight's friends, brother Shining Armor, a Celestia calling out and walking out on her despite her claims that [[{{Doppelganger}} "Cadance"]] was evil being correct with only a throwaway apology from Applejack. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for their suspicious behavior]], or Twilight was being jerkish about this even before she had reason to be suspicious and failed to give any evidence for her claims and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was also wrong about this]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were mearly asking her to leave one social event which would have been harmless if not for the Channeling invasions which fans also completely didn't see coming. This also ignores that Shining Armor's actions were implied as due to being brainwashed by "Cadance" and Twilight's friends [[FourthWallMyopia didn't know of or see what proved to audiences Twilight's suspicions were right]] and "Cadance" made offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to do nice things for them to win their trust]].

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** Twilight's friends, her brother Shining Armor, a and Celestia calling out and walking out on ditching her despite her claims that [[{{Doppelganger}} "Cadance"]] was evil being correct with only a throwaway apology from Applejack. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for their her suspicious behavior]], or and Twilight was being jerkish a jerk about this it even before she had a reason to be suspicious and failed to give any evidence suspicious, had no proof for her claims claims, and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was also wrong about this]]. wrongly paranoid]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off ties with Twilight when they were mearly asking simply leaving her to leave one social event out of the wedding, which would have would’ve been harmless if not for the Channeling invasions which fans also completely didn't see coming. Changeling invasion. This also ignores that Shining Armor's actions were Armor was implied as due to being be brainwashed by "Cadance" "Cadance”, and Twilight's friends [[FourthWallMyopia didn't know not knowing of or see saw what proved to audiences Twilight's suspicions were kind of right]] and "Cadance" made making offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to do nice things for them to win their trust]].



* Similar to a [[ComicBook/AntMan certain superhero]], Angel Bunny will never live down [[JerkassBall the domestic violence he inflicted on Fluttershy]] in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E19PuttingYourHoofDown Putting Your Hoof Down]]''. He has never been seen doing this before or since, and has occasionally been shown [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold comforting Fluttershy at her lowest moments,]] but the viewers will forever remember him as "the asshole who slapped Fluttershy and kicked her out of her own house over a cherry", [[RonTheDeathEater and even demonize him in fanfics for this]].

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* Similar to a [[ComicBook/AntMan certain superhero]], Angel Bunny will never live down [[JerkassBall the domestic violence he inflicted on Fluttershy]] in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E19PuttingYourHoofDown Putting Your Hoof Down]]''. He has never been seen doing this before or since, and has occasionally been shown [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold comforting Fluttershy at her lowest moments,]] but the viewers will forever remember him as "the asshole who slapped Fluttershy and kicked her out of her own house over a cherry", [[RonTheDeathEater and even demonize him in fanfics for this]].

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* Pinkie Pie will probably never be able to live down when [[BreakTheCutie she made Fluttershy cry]] in "Filli Vanilli" due to her InnocentlyInsensitive comments making her stage fright worse. Even after redeeming herself in episodes like "Maud Pie" and "The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows", several fans still have beef with her over it. This is ignoring the fact that Pinkie has been InnocentlyInsensitive to other ponies in previous episodes and never received any flak for it.
* Sweetie Belle gained a reputation as TheDitz because she didn't understand "more than I can chew" was a figure of speech.
** On the other hand, nearly every plan Sweetie comes up with backfires spectacularily on her and anyone else immediately involved, so there may be some merit to this. Then again, Sweetie also tends to be rather perceptive towards others' stupidity, making her more a GeniusDitz at worst.
* "A Canterlot Wedding" has many examples of this:
** Twilight accusing Cadance of being evil [[IdiotBall despite having no evidence]] . [[spoiler:She was right, just not in the same context she was thinking]].
** Shining Armor yelling at his sister, more or less cutting off his ties with her, and never apologizing for it after [[spoiler:Chrysalis got kicked out of Canterlot]]. Especially so given the implication [[spoiler: he was brainwashed the whole time]].
** Twilight's friends abandoning her for [[TheDulcineaEffect a pony they just met a day or so ago]] and not even giving Twilight a chance to explain her doubts before the big accusation scene. The BigBad even called them out on it in a sarcastic thank you speech, leading Applejack to very earnestly apologise for it.
** Celestia being [[TheWorfEffect easily beaten]] and Luna being absent.
** People also still have a hard time getting past the blatant case of RememberTheNewGuy regarding both Shining Armor and Cadence. The show so rarely feels like the glorified toy commercial it actually is than when seeing it regress to a stunt like this was quite jarring.

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* Pinkie Pie will probably never be able to live down when [[BreakTheCutie she made Fluttershy cry]] in "Filli Vanilli" due to her InnocentlyInsensitive comments making her stage fright worse. Even after redeeming herself in episodes like "Maud Pie" and "The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows", several fans still have beef with her over it. This is ignoring the fact that despite Pinkie has having been InnocentlyInsensitive to other ponies in previous episodes and never received any fan flak for it.
* Sweetie Belle gained a reputation as TheDitz because she didn't understand "more than I can chew" was a figure of speech.
** On the other hand, nearly every plan Sweetie comes up with backfires spectacularily on her and anyone else immediately involved, so there may be some merit to this. Then again, Sweetie also tends to be rather perceptive towards others' stupidity, making her more a GeniusDitz at worst.
* "A Canterlot Wedding" has many examples of this:
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** Twilight's friends, brother Shining Armor, a Celestia calling out and walking out on her despite her claims that [[{{Doppelganger}} "Cadance"]] was evil being correct with only a throwaway apology from Applejack. This is despite "Cadance" [[{{Bridezilla}} having an alibi for their suspicious behavior]], or Twilight accusing Cadance of was being evil [[IdiotBall despite having no evidence]] . [[spoiler:She was right, just not in the same context jerkish about this even before she had reason to be suspicious and failed to give any evidence for her claims and admitted [[RightForTheWrongReasons she was thinking]].
** Shining Armor yelling at his sister, more or less
also wrong about this]]. Many exaggerate it as them cutting off his ties with her, and never apologizing Twilight when they were mearly asking her to leave one social event which would have been harmless if not for it after [[spoiler:Chrysalis got kicked out of Canterlot]]. Especially so given the implication [[spoiler: he was Channeling invasions which fans also completely didn't see coming. This also ignores that Shining Armor's actions were implied as due to being brainwashed the whole time]].
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by "Cadance" and Twilight's friends abandoning her [[FourthWallMyopia didn't know of or see what proved to audiences Twilight's suspicions were right]] and "Cadance" made offscreen efforts [[PragmaticVillainy to do nice things for [[TheDulcineaEffect a pony they just met a day or so ago]] and not even giving Twilight a chance to explain her doubts before the big accusation scene. The BigBad even called them out on it in a sarcastic thank you speech, leading Applejack to very earnestly apologise for it.
win their trust]].
** Celestia being [[TheWorfEffect easily beaten]] and Luna despite it [[WorfHadTheFlu being absent.
** People also still have a hard time getting past
due to exceptional circumstance]] even the blatant case of RememberTheNewGuy regarding both Shining Armor and Cadence. The show so rarely feels like the glorified toy commercial it actually is than when seeing it regress to a stunt like this one who beat her was quite jarring.surprised by.



* The episode "Feeling Pinkie Keen", which worded the ending so badly that it turned a perfectly acceptable "Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist" moral into sounding more like "ScienceIsWrong and you should just accept that things work the way they do without trying to understand it". Before "The Mysterious Mare Do Well" this was the episode that was negatively spoken about constantly, although later it was finally able to be Lived Down.
** ''The Mysterious Mare Do Well'' itself led to a case for the main ponies par Rainbow Dash, having them listed as narcissistic {{Designated Hero}}es who self righteously formulate elaborate {{Humiliation Conga}}s onto Rainbow Dash for [[DisproportionateRetribution getting a bit too arrogant]], and are treated as right for it. Note that this is one of very few episodes to condone directly humiliating someone over a grudge (Applejack and Twilight Sparkle ''did'' previously take similar steps in "Fall Weather Friends" and "Feeling Pinkie Keen" respectively, only to get a comeuppance and learn AnAesop over acting worse than those they tried to punish).



* Some fans still hold a burning hatred against Starlight Glimmer for brainwashing the Mane 6 in "Every Little Thing She Does", despite the fact that she apologises and learns her lesson afterwards.

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* Some people are ''never'' going to let poor Twilight live down her scolding of the Cutie Mark Crusaders in "Marks for Effort" after Cozy Glow intentionally failed her test. Never mind that she amended the mistake not long after, albeit after convincing from [[BaseBreakingCharacter Starlight Glimmer]].

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* Some people are ''never'' going to let poor Twilight live down her scolding of the Cutie Mark Crusaders in "Marks for Effort" after Cozy Glow intentionally failed her test. Never mind that she amended the mistake not long after, albeit after convincing from [[BaseBreakingCharacter Starlight Glimmer]].after.



* The show eventually began to suffer from spoiler backlash from the American audiences due to a suspiciously preferential treatment of outside countries getting first airing rights to new seasons and new episodes during the latter half of the series. This resulted in a wave of anger and hate over the final episodes of season 9 due to those episodes being aired outside the U.S. and then being leaked long before they were set to go on the air there.



** On another hand, the fact that fan-favorite [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends G1]] villain Grogar was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter introduced and built up as a legitimate threat]] only to be revealed as a RedHerring added to this status, not helped that one of the head writers considers Discord a CreatorsFavorite.
* As a series-wide example, the Princesses (and even the heroes themselves, at times) will never live down being constantly used for TheWorfEffect.



* For some fans, [[BadassDecay just how easy it was for the other Princesses to be captured in the prologue]] just sinks them to MemeticLoser levels to the extent that the drama of TheWorfEffect fell flat and was met with raised eyebrows. Especially for Celestia who after seeing Cadance get turned to stone in front of her, ''[[WhatAnIdiot proceeds to leave herself wide open instead of finding/taking physical cover when telling Luna to find the queen of the hippogriffs]]''. Even Luna only managed to blast ''one'' Mook before flying away to find said queen of the hippogriffs only to get petrified in mid-air. On the bright side, Cadance being the only other princess that ''actually tried to do something'' and was only thwarted due to being unaware of the AntiMagic properties of the [[StoryBreakerPower Obsidian Orbs]] let some fans give her a free pass on this.



* Likewise, there are some that won't forget Rainbow Dash performing a Sonic Rainboom in the middle of the sky, drawing Tempest Shadow's legions to Celaeno's ship and essentially almost dooming the latter's crew and Capper.
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* Discord disgusing himself as Grogar and being behind all the villains action has garnered a lot of backlash against him. This is despite his using villains to test the heroes [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS9E1TheBeginningOfTheEndPart1 being identical to what Princess Celestia had done throughout the series]], this is just the first time it backfired.[[note]]The difference is Celestia merely used existing threats while Discord took villains who were no longer threats and handed them opportunity to become worse threats, which overlooks Celetia's own plans [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E26TwilightsKingdomPart2 causing similar harm when backfiring]].[[/note]] Also that Discord [[WellIntentionedExtremist wholly well-intentioned]] unlike [[DogKickingExcuse his prior moments]], their arrogance that led to this disaster [[FatalFlaw is a well-established part of his character]], and he risked his own life to help fix this the following episode. The backlash he got over King Sombra destroying the Elements/Tree of Harmony tends to overlook that was NOT part of the deal made with Sombra, Discord showed them they didn't need the Tree or Elements to use their power, and that Discord was never shown aware the Tree was sapient.

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** Which is then followed by Cozy Glow, Tirek ''and'' Queen Chrysalis ultimately being TakenForGranite at the hooves of the princesses. Their crimes were definitely a lot more severe, involving reigniting FantasticRacism amidst Equestria, [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] the heroes with Grogar's magic and straight-up attempting to kill the after all seemed hopeless, but now that Cozy Glow is in an even ''worse'' situation than being trapped in Tartarus, people started making the same arguments that they did back then. [[BrokenBase Equestria's royalty may never truly live in harmony.]]

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** Which is then followed by Cozy Glow, Tirek ''and'' Queen Chrysalis ultimately being TakenForGranite at the hooves of the princesses. Their crimes were definitely a lot more severe, involving reigniting FantasticRacism amidst Equestria, [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] the heroes with Grogar's magic and straight-up attempting to kill the them after all seemed hopeless, but now that Cozy Glow is in an even ''worse'' situation than being trapped in Tartarus, people started making the same arguments that they did back then. [[BrokenBase Equestria's royalty may never truly live in harmony.]]

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* Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, and Princess Twilight locking up a filly in Tartarus without questioning whether or not she has parents is bound to become this, especially among those who think Cozy Glow [[UnintentionallySympathetic didn't deserve it]] or those who believe [[WhatAnIdiot the Princesses gave Cozy and Tirek the chance to work together as cellmates]]. Even aside from all that, the sheer fact that they have the authority to subject a filly to such a punishment raises some [[FridgeHorror troubling implications]] about the Equestrian criminal justice system. That being said, she ''did'' almost drain Equestria of its magic, trapped the heroes in Tartarus, and almost trapped Starlight Glimmer and the Student Six in another dimension, all without repenting, so the legitimacy of her sentence is still up for debate.

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* Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, and Princess Twilight locking up a filly in Tartarus without questioning whether or not she has parents is bound to become this, especially among those who think Cozy Glow [[UnintentionallySympathetic didn't deserve it]] or those who believe [[WhatAnIdiot the Princesses gave Cozy and Tirek the chance to work together as cellmates]]. Even aside from all that, the sheer fact that they have the authority to subject a filly to such a punishment raises some [[FridgeHorror troubling implications]] about the Equestrian criminal justice system. That being said, she ''did'' almost drain Equestria of its magic, trapped the heroes in Tartarus, and almost trapped Starlight Glimmer and the Student Six in another dimension, ''and'' was responsible for the above "Twilight scolding the CMC" moment, all without repenting, so the legitimacy of her sentence is still up for debate.debate.
** Which is then followed by Cozy Glow, Tirek ''and'' Queen Chrysalis ultimately being TakenForGranite at the hooves of the princesses. Their crimes were definitely a lot more severe, involving reigniting FantasticRacism amidst Equestria, [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] the heroes with Grogar's magic and straight-up attempting to kill the after all seemed hopeless, but now that Cozy Glow is in an even ''worse'' situation than being trapped in Tartarus, people started making the same arguments that they did back then. [[BrokenBase Equestria's royalty may never truly live in harmony.]]



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* Discord will probably never live down disguising himself as Grogar in an attempt to bolster Twilight’s confidence, thereby causing everything bad throughout Season 9.
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** Similarly, he along with Celestia and Luna, will probably never be forgiven by the fandom for turning Cozy Glow into stone despite her being a child. This is discounting that said child willingly committed two acts of treason each which destabilized Equestria with a smile on her face and is proud of her evil ways.
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* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result was similar to the one with Soarin above, where nearly every fan art of her includes tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase "for realsies", despite saying it a total of one time in the movie.

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* Sonata Dusk from ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' excitedly says "It's Taco Tuesday!" once in the film. The result was similar to the one with Soarin above, where was, nearly every fan art of her includes tacos or a reference to them. One could also swear she had the catchphrase "for realsies", despite saying it a total of one time in the movie.



** What makes the above example even more odd is that in the very same storyline "''The Good, The Bad and the Ponies''", Twilight blatantly breaks the law by having Fluttershy kidnap a random lawyer, then impersonating said lawyer with Rarity to sabotage Longhorn's lawful purchase of Canter Creek. Not only that, but their are multiple instances of Longhorn threatening or outright physically assaulting her friends or innocent townsfolk in front of her, yet Twilight still doesn't do much.



* Likewise, there are some that won't forget Rainbow Dash performing a Sonic Rainboom in the middle of the sky, drawing Tempest Shadow's legions to Celaeno's ship and essentially almost dooming the latter's crew and Capper. Notable in that it's what drives Twilight to do what she did above.

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* Likewise, there are some that won't forget Rainbow Dash performing a Sonic Rainboom in the middle of the sky, drawing Tempest Shadow's legions to Celaeno's ship and essentially almost dooming the latter's crew and Capper. Notable in that it's what drives Twilight to do what she did above.
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** Similarly, he along with Celestia and Luna will probably never be forgiven by the fandom for turning Cozy Glow into stone despite her being a child. This is discounting that said child willingly committed two acts of treason each which destabilized Equestria with a smile on her face and is proud of her evil ways.
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* As a series-wide example, the Princesses will never live down constantly being used for TheWorfEffect.

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* As a series-wide example, the Princesses will never live down being constantly being used for TheWorfEffect.

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** Similarly, he Celestia, and Luna will probably never be forgiven by the fandom for turning Cozy Glow into stone despite her being a child.

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** Similarly, he Celestia, along with Celestia and Luna will probably never be forgiven by the fandom for turning Cozy Glow into stone despite her being a child.child. This is discounting that said child willingly committed two acts of treason each which destabilized Equestria with a smile on her face and is proud of her evil ways.
* As a series-wide example, the Princesses will never live down constantly being used for TheWorfEffect.
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* Both Season 6 and 7 have Starlight constantly reminded of her villainous misdeeds, though it's more of off-handed comments that Starlight would really wish was not brought up.

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* Both Season 6 and 7 have Starlight constantly reminded of her villainous misdeeds, though it's more of off-handed comments that Starlight would really wish was not brought up. Considering this is the closest thing to punishment she got, fans on the other hand tend to see it as cathartic.
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** Similarly, he Celestia, and Luna will probably never be forgiven by the fandom for turning Cozy Glow into stone despite her being a child.
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More fitting trope as they had a goal and reason for that.


* Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon [[KickTheDog mocked Scootaloo]] [[BullyingTheDisabled for her inability to fly]]. Despite having been reformed in Season 5 and Discord and later Starlight Glimmer having been redeemed of far worse, many fans haven't forgiven them for it.

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* Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon [[KickTheDog mocked Scootaloo]] [[BullyingTheDisabled mocked Scootaloo for her inability to fly]]. Despite having been reformed in Season 5 and Discord and later Starlight Glimmer having been redeemed of far worse, many fans haven't forgiven them for it.
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RL examples need 25 years.


** This face-heel revelation caused a lot of anger towards the writers as the fans accused them of throwing away eight years of Discord's characterization all for the convenience of the season finale plot.

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