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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and played a few shows and a brief tour with them before they found a dedicated drummer). Subverted with Crator, as it was just a studio project that John and Jason started with [[Music/{{Gorguts}} Colin Marston]] and Jeff Liefer (Tentacles) that eventually wound up turning into a ''very'' occasional live act just by circumstance.

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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album ''Ravenous Impulse'' and played a few shows and a brief tour with them before they found a dedicated drummer).Trynt Kelly). Subverted with Crator, as it was just a studio project that John and Jason started with [[Music/{{Gorguts}} Colin Marston]] and Jeff Liefer (Tentacles) that eventually wound up turning into a ''very'' occasional live act just by circumstance.
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* LongRunnerLineup: The Keyser/Ryan/Flores/Longstreth lineup is a Type 2, as it has not changed since 2011.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Solid 10, occasionally 11 on their heavier tracks ("Wrath of Vishnu", in particular).



* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} and Music/{{Ingested}} (as Jason Peppiatt and Jay Evans both have spotty availability), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician, and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.

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* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} and Music/{{Ingested}} (as Jason Peppiatt and Jay Evans both have spotty availability), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician, and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.performing.
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* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: On episode 194 of the [=MetalSucks=] podcast, Jason proclaimed his last name is pronounced "Kai-ser", as in [[Film/TheUsualSuspects Keyser Soze]].


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* PronouncingMyNameForYou: On episode 194 of the [=MetalSucks=] podcast, Jason proclaimed his last name is pronounced "Kai-ser", as in [[Film/TheUsualSuspects Keyser Soze]].
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* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} and Music/{{Ingested}} (as Jason Peppiatt and Jay Evans both have spotty availability), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician (and will likely be spending even more time on the road once Crator gets signed and starts touring, which ''will'' happen), and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.

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* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} and Music/{{Ingested}} (as Jason Peppiatt and Jay Evans both have spotty availability), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician (and will likely be spending even more time on the road once Crator gets signed and starts touring, which ''will'' happen), musician, and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.
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* LoudnessWar: Surprisingly averted (for the most part) with the last two. ''Antithesis'' had decent dynamic range but still had noticeable clipping issues and general muddiness, but ''Entity'', while slightly more compressed, took great pains to avoid clipping, creating a wonderfully crisp, balanced, and engrossing mix that set a fantastic example for how modern death metal albums should aspire to sound.

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* LoudnessWar: Surprisingly averted (for the most part) with the last two.''Antithesis and ''Entity''. ''Antithesis'' had decent dynamic range but still had noticeable clipping issues and general muddiness, but ''Entity'', while slightly more compressed, took great pains to avoid clipping, creating a wonderfully crisp, balanced, and engrossing mix that set a fantastic example for how modern death metal albums should aspire to sound.
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* BloodKnight: Mark Manning, apparently. As per Paul, he was an intense, fight-loving man who was an MMA fighter, and most of the lyrics that he would try to write were about {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}}s and other violent topics. It was also a source of friction, as Paul wasn't particularly fond of violent lyrics and wanted to write about more abstract topics to help make the band stand out, and "Lethal Manipulation (The Bonecrusher Chronicles)" was his one real concession to Mark.
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* StylisticSuck: Invoked on the ''Abiogenesis'' recordings of Paul's early bands; as per Paul, the current Origin lineup was too proficient and would play the songs too clean for his liking, so he recorded everything himself to give them the rawness and rough edges that would have been expected from the garage and woodshed practices and shows at rundown bars and battle-of-the-bands events that marked his late teens and very early twenties.
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* [[DeathMetal Brutal Death Metal]]: Definitely one of the heaviest technical death acts.

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* [[DeathMetal Brutal Death Metal]]: Definitely one of the heaviest technical death acts.acts, and their earliest works (''A Coming Into Existence'' and the self-titled) were generally closer to the underground Midwestern brutal death style that had solidified around that time period than to their codified brutal tech sound that emerged with ''Informis''.



* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", "Redistribution of Filth", and "Truthslayer". Along with Music/{{Cryptopsy}}, they were also one of the first tech acts to openly incorporate grindcore elements into their sound, and it was because of this that they were an influence on a lot of early deathcore acts.

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* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", "Redistribution of Filth", and "Truthslayer". Along with Music/{{Cryptopsy}}, they were also one of the first tech acts to openly incorporate grindcore elements into their sound, and it was because of this that they were an influence on a lot of early deathcore acts. Lastly, as ''Abiogenesis'' demonstrated, Paul's previous bands (Necrotomy and Thee Abomination) were deathgrind with some early traces of the rawer side of the Midwestern brutal death style that Origin's absolute earliest works fell within.
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* DistinctDoubleAlbum: ''Abiogenesis - A Coming Into Existence'' is one of the "single album with two distinct sections" variety: ''Abiogenesis'' has songs from Paul's pre-Origin bands (written from 1991-1993), re-recorded entirely by Paul himself; while ''A Coming Into Existence'' is a remaster of Origin's debut demo.
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* ''Abiogenesis - A Coming Into Existence'' (2019) - demo/unreleased material compilation featuring Paul Ryan's pre-Origin bands.
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* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", "Redistribution of Filth", and "Truthslayer". It also helped influence their style a great deal, as Paul's favorite band of all time is Napalm Death.

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* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", "Redistribution of Filth", and "Truthslayer". It Along with Music/{{Cryptopsy}}, they were also helped one of the first tech acts to openly incorporate grindcore elements into their sound, and it was because of this that they were an influence their style on a great deal, as Paul's favorite band lot of all time is Napalm Death.early deathcore acts.
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* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} (as Jason Peppiatt's ability to tour is sporadic at best), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician (and will likely be spending even more time on the road once Crator gets signed and starts touring, which ''will'' happen), and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.

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* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} and Music/{{Ingested}} (as Jason Peppiatt's ability to tour is sporadic at best), Peppiatt and Jay Evans both have spotty availability), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician (and will likely be spending even more time on the road once Crator gets signed and starts touring, which ''will'' happen), and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.
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* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: On episode 194 of the [=MetalSucks=] podcast, Jason proclaimed his last name is pronounced "Kai-ser", as in [[Film/Se7en Keyser Soze]].

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* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: On episode 194 of the [=MetalSucks=] podcast, Jason proclaimed his last name is pronounced "Kai-ser", as in [[Film/Se7en [[Film/TheUsualSuspects Keyser Soze]].

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* BadassBookworm: Jason Keyser has a degree in anthropology and has been part of multiple digs as part of his day job.

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* BadassBookworm: Jason Keyser has a degree in anthropology and has been part of multiple digs as part of his day job.digs.



* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", and "Redistribution of Filth". It also helped influence their style a great deal, as Paul's favorite band of all time is Napalm Death.

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* {{Grindcore}}: They've dabbled in this with "Committed" (a noisegrind track), "Banishing Illusion", and "Redistribution of Filth".Filth", and "Truthslayer". It also helped influence their style a great deal, as Paul's favorite band of all time is Napalm Death.



* MetalScream: Jason Keyser is a hybrid of a Type 1 and a Type 2 who can pull off Type 3 highs, while Paul Ryan is a Type 2 who can also pull off Type 3s and Mike Flores is strictly a Type 3. James Lee and Mark Manning were both firm Type 2s (though Lee was also famous for his highs).

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* MetalScream: Jason Keyser is a hybrid of a very distinctive Type 1 and a Type 2 hybrid who can pull off Type 3 highs, is known for his terse, rapid-fire bark, while Paul Ryan is a Type 2 who can also pull off Type 3s and Mike Flores is strictly a Type 3. James Lee and Mark Manning were both firm Type 2s (though Lee was also famous for his highs).



* NewSoundAlbum: Pretty much every album.

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* NewSoundAlbum: Pretty much every album.Each album has featured a fairly significant shift in style, as Paul has admitted that his writing is heavily influenced by his listening habits at that point in time:



** ''Unparalleled Universe'' represents something of a bridge between ''Entity'' and ''Omnipresent'', as it brings back some of the straightforward tech tracks that were in short supply on the latter while still keeping some of its quirkiness and focus on atmosphere, as well as the GenreRoulette tendencies of both albums.



* RevolvingDoorBand: For the first half of their career. Things have been mostly stable since then minus Lee's ejection.

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* RevolvingDoorBand: For the first half of their career. Things have been mostly stable since then minus Lee's ejection.Keyser was brought on in 2011.
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* RunningGag: Several:
** John changing his configuration with every tour.
** Jason coming up with special conditions for pits (namely the "one-man circle pit", the "silent wall of death", and the "political orientation wall of death").
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* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: On episode 194 of the [=MetalSucks=] podcast, Jason proclaimed his last name is pronounced "Kai-ser", as in [[Film/Se7en Keyser Soze]].
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* CoverVersion: They have covered S.O.D.'s "Kill Yourself" on ''Omnipresent''.

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* CoverVersion: They have covered S."Kill Yourself" (S.O.D.'s "Kill Yourself" on ''Omnipresent''.) and "Revolucion" (Brujeria).
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* UpToEleven: In general as far as technical death goes, but especially live. Some technical death acts have trouble pulling off some of their more complicated material live and/or tend to fall victim to the "stand around playing your instruments" trap; Origin actually plays it even FASTER without a hitch and has cultivated a reputation as a ferocious live act.

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* UpToEleven: In general as far as technical death goes, but especially live. Some technical death acts have trouble pulling off some of their more complicated material live and/or tend to fall victim to the "stand around playing your instruments" trap; Origin actually plays it even FASTER without a hitch and has cultivated a reputation as a ferocious live act.act.
* WalkingTheEarth: Like [[Music/TheFaceless Ken Sorceron]], this is how Jason Keyser lives his life. Between Origin and as-needed vocal fill-ins for Music/{{Psycroptic}} (as Jason Peppiatt's ability to tour is sporadic at best), he is on the road quite a bit as a musician (and will likely be spending even more time on the road once Crator gets signed and starts touring, which ''will'' happen), and he also spends his fair share of time working as a merch assistant or tour hand even when he isn't performing.
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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and is currently a full member even though his ability to tour with them is rather limited and they're still trying to find a full-time drummer). Subverted with Crator, as it was just a studio project that John and Jason started with [[Music/{{Gorguts}} Colin Marston]] and Jeff Liefer (Tentacles) that eventually wound up turning into a ''very'' occasional live act just by circumstance.

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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and is currently played a full member even though his ability to few shows and a brief tour with them is rather limited and they're still trying to find before they found a full-time dedicated drummer). Subverted with Crator, as it was just a studio project that John and Jason started with [[Music/{{Gorguts}} Colin Marston]] and Jeff Liefer (Tentacles) that eventually wound up turning into a ''very'' occasional live act just by circumstance.

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* EpicRocking: The title track to ''Antithesis'' is almost ten minutes, while "Consequence of Solution" is a little over seven and "Saligia" is slightly under seven.
* GenreRoulette: ''Entity'', in addition to their standard lightspeed tech-death, experimented with deathgrind (Banishing Illusion), noisegrind (Committed), and classic-style death metal (Evolution of Extinction), with many of the individual songs also taking unexpected turns into other genres.

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* EpicRocking: The title track to ''Antithesis'' is almost ten minutes, while "Unequivocal" (9:54), "Antithesis" (9:32), "Consequence of Solution" is a little over seven (7:09), and "Saligia" is slightly under seven.
* GenreRoulette: ''Entity'', in addition to their standard lightspeed tech-death, experimented with deathgrind (Banishing Illusion), noisegrind (Committed), and classic-style death metal (Evolution of Extinction), with many of the individual songs also taking unexpected turns into other genres.
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* LaterInstallmentWeirdness: ''Omnipresent'' was largely a turn away from tech-death with extremely prominent grindcore and mathcore influences (which were hinted at on ''Entity'' by way of "Committed" and "Banishing Illusion", but weren't a central part of the latter album).
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* ''Unparalleled Universe'' (2017)
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* MetalScream: Jason Keyser is a hybrid of a Type 1 and a Type 2 who can pull off Type 3 highs, while Paul Ryan is a Type 2 who can also pull off Type 3s and Mike Flores is strictly a Type 3. James Lee and Mark Manning were both firm Type 2s (though Lee was also famous for his highs).
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Formed in 1997 in Topeka, Kansas by guitarists Paul Ryan and Jeremy Turner (the former not to be confused with the politician of the same name, obviously), the band quickly picked up Clint Appelhanz (bass) and Mark Manning (vocals), along with George Fluke (drums) shortly after. This lineup would go on to release a demo, though Fluke and Appelhanz left soon after and were replaced by John Longstreth and [[Music/CephalicCarnage Doug Williams]], respectively. This lineup was the one that gained them a contract with Relapse Records and released their self-titled debut; in the time between their debut and their second album, Manning and Williams left and were replaced by James Lee and Mike Flores. For a while after, the band continued to go through numerous lineup changes, though things finally settled down after Lee left; as of now, the lineup consists of Ryan, Flores, and Longstreth, along with Jason Keyser of Skinless fame on vocals.

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Formed in 1997 in Topeka, Kansas by guitarists Paul Ryan and Jeremy Turner (the former not to be confused with the politician of the same name, obviously), the band quickly picked up Clint Appelhanz (bass) and Mark Manning (vocals), along with George Fluke (drums) shortly after. This lineup would go on to release a demo, though Fluke and Appelhanz left soon after and were replaced by [[Music/{{Angelcorpse}} John Longstreth Longstreth]] and [[Music/CephalicCarnage Doug Williams]], respectively. This lineup was the one that gained them a contract with Relapse Records and released their self-titled debut; in the time between their debut and their second album, Manning and Williams left and were replaced by James Lee and Mike Flores. For a while after, the band continued to go through numerous lineup changes, though things finally settled down after Lee left; as of now, the lineup consists of Ryan, Flores, and Longstreth, along with Jason Keyser of Skinless fame on vocals.
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Formed in 1997 in Topeka, Kansas by guitarists Paul Ryan and Jeremy Turner (the former not to be confused with the politician of the same name, obviously), the band quickly picked up Clint Appelhanz (bass) and Mark Manning (vocals), along with George Fluke (drums) shortly after. This lineup would go on to release a demo, though Fluke and Appelhanz left soon after and were replaced by John Longstreth and Doug Williams, respectively. This lineup was the one that gained them a contract with Relapse Records and released their self-titled debut; in the time between their debut and their second album, Manning and Williams left and were replaced by James Lee and Mike Flores. For a while after, the band continued to go through numerous lineup changes, though things finally settled down after Lee left; as of now, the lineup consists of Ryan, Flores, and Longstreth, along with Jason Keyser of Skinless fame on vocals.

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Formed in 1997 in Topeka, Kansas by guitarists Paul Ryan and Jeremy Turner (the former not to be confused with the politician of the same name, obviously), the band quickly picked up Clint Appelhanz (bass) and Mark Manning (vocals), along with George Fluke (drums) shortly after. This lineup would go on to release a demo, though Fluke and Appelhanz left soon after and were replaced by John Longstreth and [[Music/CephalicCarnage Doug Williams, Williams]], respectively. This lineup was the one that gained them a contract with Relapse Records and released their self-titled debut; in the time between their debut and their second album, Manning and Williams left and were replaced by James Lee and Mike Flores. For a while after, the band continued to go through numerous lineup changes, though things finally settled down after Lee left; as of now, the lineup consists of Ryan, Flores, and Longstreth, along with Jason Keyser of Skinless fame on vocals.
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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and is currently a full member even though he can't really tour with them).

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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and is currently a full member even though he can't really his ability to tour with them).them is rather limited and they're still trying to find a full-time drummer). Subverted with Crator, as it was just a studio project that John and Jason started with [[Music/{{Gorguts}} Colin Marston]] and Jeff Liefer (Tentacles) that eventually wound up turning into a ''very'' occasional live act just by circumstance.
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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up.

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* StartMyOwn: Unmerciful was started by Clint Appelhanz; while James King was a co-founder, he doesn't count because he hadn't yet even joined Origin at that time. Said band is also notorious for being where departing Origin members tend to end up.up (and occasionally even current, as John Longstreth did drums on the new album and is currently a full member even though he can't really tour with them).

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