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** In Cross Days' manga adaptation, when he [[spoiler: attempts to rape Roka]].

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** In Cross Days' manga adaptation, when he [[spoiler: attempts [[spoiler:attempts to rape Roka]].



*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have him]], then ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's Attempted Murder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] And sure, Attempted Murder is bad, but given that Makoto clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.

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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie [[spoiler:lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have him]], then ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's Attempted Murder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] live]]. And sure, Attempted Murder is bad, but given that Makoto clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign that Sekai's gone off the deep end.



** In the anime, [[spoiler:severing Makoto's head from his dead body and showing it to Sekai on the rooftop before murdering her as revenge.]] It is a good indicator of just how crazy she has become.
** In the manga, she nearly crosses it by [[spoiler:attempting to kill Sekai.]] Its only when she accidentally [[spoiler:slashes Makoto]] that she realizes what shes doing and stops. [[spoiler:Sadly, its too late for her to take it back as Sekai goes insane from the shock and murders her in revenge.]]
** In one ending of the visual novel, [[spoiler:she attempts to strangle Makoto after he accidentally slits her palms ''after'' she killed Sekai by slitting her throat. After she comes to her senses, she realizes how bad she's become and even has a HeelRealization. ]]

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** In the anime, [[spoiler:severing Makoto's head from his dead body and showing it to Sekai on the rooftop before murdering her as revenge.]] revenge]]. It is a good indicator of just how crazy she has become.
** In the manga, she nearly crosses it by [[spoiler:attempting to kill Sekai.]] Its Sekai]]. It's only when she accidentally [[spoiler:slashes Makoto]] that she realizes what shes she's doing and stops. [[spoiler:Sadly, its it's too late for her to take it back back, as Sekai goes insane from the shock and murders her in revenge.]]
revenge]].
** In one ending of the visual novel, [[spoiler:she attempts to strangle Makoto after he accidentally slits her palms ''after'' she killed Sekai by slitting her throat. After she comes to her senses, she realizes how bad she's become and even has a HeelRealization. ]]HeelRealization]].



** Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]
** In one of the visual novel routes, we also have them [[spoiler:cornering Kotonoha, knocking down and stepping over the lunch she made for Makoto [[LethalChef with LOTS of effort]], and laughing over it. Not only that, but they even plan to treat her worse ''and'' at some point corner her to beat her up.]] Again, depending on your actions, [[spoiler:Makoto can stop them, which triggers either one of Kotonoha's happiest endings (if he does) or one of Sekai's worst endings (if he doesn't).]]
* Otome Katou: Bullying Kotonoha out of [[GreenEyedMonster sheer jealousy]] and, in one of the routes, [[spoiler:manipulating Taisuke into committing ''his'' aforementioned MoralEventHorizon via telling him that "girls like rough men in bed and they play protest-pretend while at it".]]

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** Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have having sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], students]], and their supposed friend Otome Otome, who is seen [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]].mess'']]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]
** In one of the visual novel routes, we also have them [[spoiler:cornering Kotonoha, knocking down and stepping over the lunch she made for Makoto [[LethalChef with LOTS of effort]], and laughing over it. Not only that, but they even plan to treat her worse ''and'' at some point corner her to beat her up.]] up]]. Again, depending on your actions, [[spoiler:Makoto can stop them, which triggers either one of Kotonoha's happiest endings (if he does) or one of Sekai's worst endings (if he doesn't).]]
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* Otome Katou: Bullying Kotonoha out of [[GreenEyedMonster sheer jealousy]] and, in one of the routes, [[spoiler:manipulating Taisuke into committing ''his'' aforementioned MoralEventHorizon via telling him that "girls like rough men in bed and they play protest-pretend while at it".]]it"]].



* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to [[TangledFamilyTree be related in one way or another]]; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tomaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto Makoto's father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to [[TangledFamilyTree be related in one way or another]]; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tomaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's gets away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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Almost ''everyone'' in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' crosses this at one point or another.

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Almost ''everyone'' in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' the School Days [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays Visual Novel]] and [[Anime/SchoolDays Anime]] [[MoralEventHorizon crosses this this]] at one point or another.
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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], then ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].

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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], him]], then ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tomaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to [[TangledFamilyTree be related in one way or another; another]]; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tomaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], than ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].

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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], than then ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuideKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], than ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].

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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuideKarma [[LaserGuidedKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], than ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
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*** However, if one choses to take [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Kotonoha's word]] that [[spoiler:Sekai was [[FakePregnancy faking]] her pregnancy]], this makes Sekai's actions slightly more reprehensible, because not only did she [[spoiler: lie about being pregnant [[TheBabyTrap to get Makoto to stay with her]], thus ruining Makoto's sex life]] (not to say [[LaserGuideKarma that he didn't deserve it]]), but this means that she [[spoiler:murdered him not because he was abandoning her with a child]], but because [[spoiler:he rejected her and [[IfICantHaveYou if she couldn't have her]], than ''no one'' could]]. Especially not Kotonoha, who she [[spoiler:tried to murder during their confrontation on the school roof]].
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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? Tomaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his nieces, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; granddaughters (And oftentimes the victims are ''more than one of the above''); drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's AttemptedMurder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] And sure, AttemptedMurder is bad, but given that Makoto clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.

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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's AttemptedMurder Attempted Murder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] And sure, AttemptedMurder Attempted Murder is bad, but given that Makoto clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.
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** There's also a few routes of ''Cross Days'', where he and his friends [[spoiler:gang-rape Yuuki]]. It gets even worse in the "Licentious Beast" ending, where they [[spoiler:keep Yuuki as a sex slave]].

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** There's also a few routes of ''Cross Days'', where he and his friends [[spoiler:gang-rape Yuuki]].Yuuki]], who was a friend of his from middle school. It gets even worse in the "Licentious Beast" ending, where they [[spoiler:keep Yuuki as a sex slave]].
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** There's also a few routes of ''Cross Days'', where he and his friends gang-rape Yuuki. It gets even worse in the "Licentious Beast" ending, where they keep Yuuki as a sex slave.

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** There's also a few routes of ''Cross Days'', where he and his friends gang-rape Yuuki. [[spoiler:gang-rape Yuuki]]. It gets even worse in the "Licentious Beast" ending, where they keep [[spoiler:keep Yuuki as a sex slave.slave]].

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* Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]] This happens, in part, because of the "advice" he gets from Otome.

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** Averted in the manga, where he wises up and tries to defuse the love triangle before things get too out of hand. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for him, Kotonoha's already gone mad with jealousy by this time, resulting in events spiralling out of control anyway.]]

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** In Cross Days' manga adaptation, when he [[spoiler: attempts to rape Roka]].
** Averted in the School Days manga, where he wises up and tries to defuse the love triangle before things get too out of hand. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for him, Kotonoha's already gone mad with jealousy by this time, resulting in events spiralling out of control anyway.]]
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** In the visual novel, you are the one controlling Makoto's actions. This means that many instances where he crosses the line in some paths can only be initiated by you, the player.

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** In the visual novel, you are the one controlling Makoto's actions. This means that many instances where he crosses the line in some paths [[YouBastard can only be initiated by you, the player.player]].



* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by [[GreaterScopeVillain Tomaru Sawagoe, Sawagoe]], Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally punished for their actions or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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** In one ending of the visual novel, [[spoiler:she attempts to strangle Makoto after he accidentally slits her palms ''after'' she killed Sekai by slitting her throat. After she comes to her senses, she realizes how bad she's become and even has a HeelRealization. ]]
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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's AttemptedMurder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] And sure, AttemptedMurder is bad, but given that Makoto took the hit and clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.

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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona's AttemptedMurder meant she couldn't be allowed to live.]] And sure, AttemptedMurder is bad, but given that Makoto took the hit and clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.
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** Averted in the manga, where he wises up and tries to defuse the love triangle before things get too out of hand. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for him, Kotonoha's already gone mad with jealousy by this time, resulting in events spiralling out of control anyway.]]
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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona did stupid things and couldn't be trusted with him.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.

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** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out, justifying it by saying Kotohona did stupid things and Kotohona's AttemptedMurder meant she couldn't be trusted with him.allowed to live.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.And sure, AttemptedMurder is bad, but given that Makoto took the hit and clearly did not wish revenge on Kotonoha despite everything, it's a telltale sign Sekai's gone off the deep end.
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Almost ''everyone'' in VisualNovel/SchoolDays crosses this at one point or another.

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** Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]

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** Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]

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* Makoto Itou: Pick your poison, but one good choice is [[spoiler:tongue-kissing Kotonoha in front of Sekai just to hammer the point home that they're through... when she's (apparently) pregnant with his baby!]]
* Sekai Saionji: [[spoiler:Murdering Makoto in the bloodiest way possible]], natch. It only counts because the way it's carried out it's DisproportionateRetribution for [[AssholeVictim being a major asshole for much of the series]]. Other than that, it's more forgivable than the others' atrocities, since at least she has an excuse for it (see the spoiler for [[spoiler:Makoto's]] MEH for more on that).
** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto when he finds out.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.
* Kotonoha Katsura: [[spoiler:''Double'' murder (probably)]], plus the contents of her bag... [[spoiler:Makoto's head.]]
* Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]]
* Natsumi Koizumi, Kumi Mouri, and Minami Obuchi: Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]

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* Makoto Itou: Pick your poison, but Itou:
** In the visual novel, you are the
one good choice is controlling Makoto's actions. This means that many instances where he crosses the line in some paths can only be initiated by you, the player.
** In the anime,
[[spoiler:tongue-kissing Kotonoha in front of Sekai just to brutally hammer the point home that they're through... when while she's (apparently) (supposedly) pregnant with his baby!]]
* Sekai Saionji: [[spoiler:Murdering Saionji:
** In the anime, [[spoiler:murdering
Makoto by stabbing him over and over with a kitchen knife in the bloodiest way possible]], natch. possible]]. It only counts because the way it's carried out it's is DisproportionateRetribution for simply [[AssholeVictim being a major asshole for much of the series]]. asshole]]. Other than that, it's more forgivable than the others' atrocities, since at least she has an a valid excuse for it (see the spoiler for [[spoiler:Makoto's]] MEH for more on that).
it.
** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto about it when he finds out.out, justifying it by saying Kotohona did stupid things and couldn't be trusted with him.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.
* Kotonoha Katsura: [[spoiler:''Double'' murder (probably)]], plus Katsura:
** In
the contents of anime, [[spoiler:severing Makoto's head from his dead body and showing it to Sekai on the rooftop before murdering her bag... [[spoiler:Makoto's head.as revenge.]] It is a good indicator of just how crazy she has become.
** In the manga, she nearly crosses it by [[spoiler:attempting to kill Sekai.]] Its only when she accidentally [[spoiler:slashes Makoto]] that she realizes what shes doing and stops. [[spoiler:Sadly, its too late for her to take it back as Sekai goes insane from the shock and murders her in revenge.
]]
* Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]]
]] This happens, in part, because of the "advice" he gets from Otome.
* Natsumi Koizumi, Kumi Mouri, and Minami Obuchi: Obuchi:
**
Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]



* Nanami Kanroji and Hikari Kuroda: In the one of the routes, they helped Otome and her posse with their bullying of Kotonoha by spreading rumors about Kotonoha being a [[ReallyGetsAround "pheromone girl"]], [[spoiler:and also the ones who tipped the 4 of them about Kotonoha's lunchbox so the could step over it as mentioned above. And they also plotted to have the entire sports club help them make Kotonoha even more miserable]]. [[ShipperOnDeck All to drive Kotonoha away from Makoto so Sekai could be with him.]] It backfired spectacularly on them, however, in which it ended up jeopardizing Makoto and Sekai's friendship as a whole, since [[BullyHunter Makoto's]] own BerserkButton is bullying ''and they pressed it to the core''.
* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the School Days-verse to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. And what's worse? Makoto, Sekai and several others are normally given swift punishment for their actions and even have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]] (i.e. Makoto's aforementioned hatred for bullies). Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done!]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* Nanami Kanroji and Hikari Kuroda: In the one of the routes, they helped Otome and her posse with their bullying of Kotonoha by spreading rumors about Kotonoha being a [[ReallyGetsAround "pheromone girl"]], [[spoiler:and were also the ones who tipped the 4 of them about Kotonoha's lunchbox so the they could step over it as mentioned above. And they They also plotted to have the entire sports club help them make Kotonoha even more miserable]]. [[ShipperOnDeck All to drive Kotonoha away from Makoto so Sekai could be with him.]] It backfired spectacularly on them, however, in which it ended ends up jeopardizing Makoto and Sekai's friendship as a whole, since [[BullyHunter Makoto's]] own BerserkButton is was bullying ''and they pressed it to the core''.
* All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the School Days-verse 0verflow universe to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. And what's worse? Makoto, Sekai and several others To makes things worse, most characters who cross the line are normally given swift punishment punished for their actions and even or have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]] (i.e. Makoto's aforementioned hatred for bullies). characteristics]]. Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done!]] done.]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in the 0verflow universe, let alone ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* Almost ''everyone'' in VisualNovel/SchoolDays crosses this at one point or another.
** Makoto Itou: Pick your poison, but one good choice is [[spoiler: tongue-kissing Kotonoha in front of Sekai just to hammer the point home that they're through... when she's (apparently) pregnant with his baby!]]
** Sekai Saionji: [[spoiler: Murdering Makoto in the bloodiest way possible]], natch. It only counts because the way it's carried out it's DisproportionateRetribution for [[AssholeVictim being a major asshole for much of the series]]. Other than that, it's more forgivable than the others' atrocities, since at least she has an excuse for it (see the spoiler for [[spoiler:Makoto's]] MEH for more on that).
*** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto when he finds out.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.
** Kotonoha Katsura: [[spoiler:''Double'' murder (probably)]], plus the contents of her bag... [[spoiler: Makoto's head.]]
** Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]]
** Natsumi Koizumi, Kumi Mouri, and Minami Obuchi: Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler: who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]
*** In one of the visual novel routes, we also have them [[spoiler: cornering Kotonoha, knocking down and stepping over the lunch she made for Makoto [[LethalChef with LOTS of effort]], and laughing over it. Not only that, but they even plan to treat her worse ''and'' at some point corner her to beat her up.]] Again, depending on your actions, [[spoiler: Makoto can stop them, which triggers either one of Kotonoha's happiest endings (if he does) or one of Sekai's worst endings (if he doesn't).]]
** Otome Katou: Bullying Kotonoha out of [[GreenEyedMonster sheer jealousy]] and [[spoiler: in one of the routes, manipulating Taisuke into commiting ''his'' aforementioned MoralEventHorizon via telling him that "girls like rough men in bed and they play protest-pretend while at it".]]
** Nanami Kanroji and Hikari Kuroda: In the one of the routes, they helped Otome and her posse with their bullying of Kotonoha by spreading rumors about Kotonoha being a [[ReallyGetsAround "pheromone girl"]], [[spoiler: and also the ones who tipped the 4 of them about Kotonoha's lunchbox so the could step over it as mentioned above. And they also plotted to have the entire sports club help them make Kotonoha even more miserable]]. [[ShipperOnDeck All to drive Kotonoha away from Makoto so Sekai could be with him.]] It backfired spetacularly on them, however, in which it ended up jeopardizing Makoto and Sekai's friendship as a whole, since [[BullyHunter Makoto's]] own BerserkButton is bullying ''and they pressed it to the core''.
** All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the School Days-verse to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. And what's worse? Makoto, Sekai and several others are normally given swift punishment for their actions and even have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]] (i.e. Makoto's aforementioned hatred for bullies). Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done!]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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* Almost ''everyone'' in VisualNovel/SchoolDays crosses this at one point or another.
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Makoto Itou: Pick your poison, but one good choice is [[spoiler: tongue-kissing [[spoiler:tongue-kissing Kotonoha in front of Sekai just to hammer the point home that they're through... when she's (apparently) pregnant with his baby!]]
** * Sekai Saionji: [[spoiler: Murdering [[spoiler:Murdering Makoto in the bloodiest way possible]], natch. It only counts because the way it's carried out it's DisproportionateRetribution for [[AssholeVictim being a major asshole for much of the series]]. Other than that, it's more forgivable than the others' atrocities, since at least she has an excuse for it (see the spoiler for [[spoiler:Makoto's]] MEH for more on that).
*** ** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto when he finds out.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.
** * Kotonoha Katsura: [[spoiler:''Double'' murder (probably)]], plus the contents of her bag... [[spoiler: Makoto's [[spoiler:Makoto's head.]]
** * Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]]
** * Natsumi Koizumi, Kumi Mouri, and Minami Obuchi: Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]
*** ** In one of the visual novel routes, we also have them [[spoiler: cornering [[spoiler:cornering Kotonoha, knocking down and stepping over the lunch she made for Makoto [[LethalChef with LOTS of effort]], and laughing over it. Not only that, but they even plan to treat her worse ''and'' at some point corner her to beat her up.]] Again, depending on your actions, [[spoiler: Makoto [[spoiler:Makoto can stop them, which triggers either one of Kotonoha's happiest endings (if he does) or one of Sekai's worst endings (if he doesn't).]]
** * Otome Katou: Bullying Kotonoha out of [[GreenEyedMonster sheer jealousy]] and [[spoiler: and, in one of the routes, manipulating [[spoiler:manipulating Taisuke into commiting committing ''his'' aforementioned MoralEventHorizon via telling him that "girls like rough men in bed and they play protest-pretend while at it".]]
** * Nanami Kanroji and Hikari Kuroda: In the one of the routes, they helped Otome and her posse with their bullying of Kotonoha by spreading rumors about Kotonoha being a [[ReallyGetsAround "pheromone girl"]], [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and also the ones who tipped the 4 of them about Kotonoha's lunchbox so the could step over it as mentioned above. And they also plotted to have the entire sports club help them make Kotonoha even more miserable]]. [[ShipperOnDeck All to drive Kotonoha away from Makoto so Sekai could be with him.]] It backfired spetacularly spectacularly on them, however, in which it ended up jeopardizing Makoto and Sekai's friendship as a whole, since [[BullyHunter Makoto's]] own BerserkButton is bullying ''and they pressed it to the core''.
** * All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the School Days-verse to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. And what's worse? Makoto, Sekai and several others are normally given swift punishment for their actions and even have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]] (i.e. Makoto's aforementioned hatred for bullies). Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done!]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.
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* Almost ''everyone'' in VisualNovel/SchoolDays crosses this at one point or another.
** Makoto Itou: Pick your poison, but one good choice is [[spoiler: tongue-kissing Kotonoha in front of Sekai just to hammer the point home that they're through... when she's (apparently) pregnant with his baby!]]
** Sekai Saionji: [[spoiler: Murdering Makoto in the bloodiest way possible]], natch. It only counts because the way it's carried out it's DisproportionateRetribution for [[AssholeVictim being a major asshole for much of the series]]. Other than that, it's more forgivable than the others' atrocities, since at least she has an excuse for it (see the spoiler for [[spoiler:Makoto's]] MEH for more on that).
*** In the manga, [[spoiler:[[MurderTheHypotenuse killing Kotonoha]] and then taunting Makoto when he finds out.]] In ''that'' one, she has next-to-no excuse.
** Kotonoha Katsura: [[spoiler:''Double'' murder (probably)]], plus the contents of her bag... [[spoiler: Makoto's head.]]
** Taisuke Sawanaga: [[spoiler:Raping Kotonoha during the SchoolFestival, taking advantage of her HeroicBSOD.]]
** Natsumi Koizumi, Kumi Mouri, and Minami Obuchi: Taking advantage of a school tradition to [[spoiler:tape couples have sex... and then show the footage to the whole school]], just for the lulz. The victims include: Sekai's friend Nanami, [[spoiler: who gets taped and exposed by them while having sex with her sempai and boyfriend and has her reputation completely ruined among the other students.]], and their supposed friend Otome who is seen [[spoiler: having sex with Makoto in that same place (which lets Sekai know that Makoto's cheating on her ''now'')]], AND whose feelings they then ignore ''again'' by [[spoiler:having sex with Makoto just for the hell of it, ''right after the whole festival mess''.]]. [[note]]It should be noticed that, in the ''Cross Days game'', it was Nanami's "schoolgirl rival" Chie Ashikaga (the sister of the main character Yuuki) who released the tape as a TakeThat to her. The GirlPosse's other MEH crossings remain.[[/note]]
*** In one of the visual novel routes, we also have them [[spoiler: cornering Kotonoha, knocking down and stepping over the lunch she made for Makoto [[LethalChef with LOTS of effort]], and laughing over it. Not only that, but they even plan to treat her worse ''and'' at some point corner her to beat her up.]] Again, depending on your actions, [[spoiler: Makoto can stop them, which triggers either one of Kotonoha's happiest endings (if he does) or one of Sekai's worst endings (if he doesn't).]]
** Otome Katou: Bullying Kotonoha out of [[GreenEyedMonster sheer jealousy]] and [[spoiler: in one of the routes, manipulating Taisuke into commiting ''his'' aforementioned MoralEventHorizon via telling him that "girls like rough men in bed and they play protest-pretend while at it".]]
** Nanami Kanroji and Hikari Kuroda: In the one of the routes, they helped Otome and her posse with their bullying of Kotonoha by spreading rumors about Kotonoha being a [[ReallyGetsAround "pheromone girl"]], [[spoiler: and also the ones who tipped the 4 of them about Kotonoha's lunchbox so the could step over it as mentioned above. And they also plotted to have the entire sports club help them make Kotonoha even more miserable]]. [[ShipperOnDeck All to drive Kotonoha away from Makoto so Sekai could be with him.]] It backfired spetacularly on them, however, in which it ended up jeopardizing Makoto and Sekai's friendship as a whole, since [[BullyHunter Makoto's]] own BerserkButton is bullying ''and they pressed it to the core''.
** All of the previously mentioned MEH moments can't even compare to all of the things pulled by Tomaru Sawagoe, Makoto father: This... ''man'' is the main reason for Makoto's bad habits. His other insidious actions include [[spoiler:impregnating his cousins, his sister, his daughters, AND his granddaughters; drugging (and almost certainly raping) his daughters so he could impregnate them when they were as young as FIVE, causing almost ''everyone'' in the School Days-verse to be related in one way or another; outright admitting to Makoto that he will steal all of his conquests for himself for shits and giggles; and simply being a horrible parent]]. And what's worse? Makoto, Sekai and several others are normally given swift punishment for their actions and even have some [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming characteristics]] (i.e. Makoto's aforementioned hatred for bullies). Tamaru? He's a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] [[KarmaHoudini who often get's away with what he's done!]] This guy is so despicable, so smug, so outright unpleasant, that even Makoto himself hates his guts. He is, without a doubt, the most loathsome character in ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''.

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