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* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Archie, verging on bullying. Additionally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.

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* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Archie, verging on bullying. Additionally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself. Archie even frequently uses the phrase “with friends like these who needs enemies”.
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Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage. For the romantic version, see TheMasochismTango and BelligerentSexualTension. Compare/contrast FriendlyEnemy which has enemies acting like friends are used,and when both are used you may end up with Polite Villains, Rude Heroes. Compare VitriolicBestBuds and OddFriendship. Contrast WhoNeedsEnemies, where two characters really ''ought'' to be friends given their similar goals, but somehow aren't. May be due to coming from a FriendlessBackground.

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Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage. For the romantic version, see TheMasochismTango and BelligerentSexualTension. Compare/contrast FriendlyEnemy which has enemies acting like friends are used,and when both are used you may end up with Polite Villains, Rude Heroes.PoliteVillainsRudeHeroes. Compare VitriolicBestBuds and OddFriendship. Contrast WhoNeedsEnemies, where two characters really ''ought'' to be friends given their similar goals, but somehow aren't. May be due to coming from a FriendlessBackground.
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Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage. For the romantic version, see TheMasochismTango and BelligerentSexualTension. Compare/contrast FriendlyEnemy which has enemies acting like friends. Compare VitriolicBestBuds and OddFriendship. Contrast WhoNeedsEnemies, where two characters really ''ought'' to be friends given their similar goals, but somehow aren't. May be due to coming from a FriendlessBackground.

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Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage. For the romantic version, see TheMasochismTango and BelligerentSexualTension. Compare/contrast FriendlyEnemy which has enemies acting like friends.friends are used,and when both are used you may end up with Polite Villains, Rude Heroes. Compare VitriolicBestBuds and OddFriendship. Contrast WhoNeedsEnemies, where two characters really ''ought'' to be friends given their similar goals, but somehow aren't. May be due to coming from a FriendlessBackground.
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* ''Literature/BakaAndTestSummonTheBeasts'': Out of all of [[ButtMonkey Akihisa Yoshii's]] friends, the only one to treat him with any kind of dignity or respect would be [[DudeLooksLikeALady Hideyoshi]]. The rest just generally treat him like crap, and in [[{{Tsundere}} Minami's]] case, [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale beat the ever-loving shit out of him]]. [[EvenTheGuysWantHim Is it any wonder Akihisa finds Hideyoshi attractive?]]


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* ''Literature/RebuildWorld'': Viola, a KnowledgeBroker with ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, and Carol, a FemmeFatale ActionGirl, are supposed to be best friends. Each of them tell some of the other's prospective business partners/victims about the other's disreputable nature. Carol also gives Viola AnOfferYouCantRefuse for her information sometimes, and her work as Viola’s bodyguard is quite questionable when it comes to people Carol likes such as Akira and Sheryl (which eventually leads to Viola getting a new bodyguard).
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* [[Characters/HellblazerJohnConstantine John Constantine]] and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:practically the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)
* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Acrhie, verging on bullying. Additionally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.

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* [[Characters/HellblazerJohnConstantine John Constantine]] and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives relatives, or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:practically the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)
* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Acrhie, Archie, verging on bullying. Additionally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.



* The page image shows [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Dick Grayson]] (during his Batman days) and Roy Harper at the lowest point in their friendship; Roy was tripping on drugs and attacking civilians, and afterwards Dick abandoned Roy in prison. This isn't the first time these best friends came to blows either. When they were both on the Outsiders an argument concerning how the team was run devolved into petty insults. When Roy [[BerserkButton badmouthed Batman]] Dick responded by badmouthing ComicBook/GreenArrow and brought up Roy's [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten heroin addiction]]. Then they started beating the crap out of each other. Of course they make up like they always do and go back to their HoYay filled friendship.

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* The page image shows [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Dick Grayson]] (during his Batman days) and Roy Harper at the lowest point in their friendship; Roy was tripping on drugs and attacking civilians, and afterwards Dick abandoned Roy in prison. This isn't the first time these best friends came to blows either. When they were both on the Outsiders an argument concerning how the team was run devolved into petty insults. When Roy [[BerserkButton badmouthed Batman]] Dick responded by badmouthing ComicBook/GreenArrow and brought up Roy's [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten heroin addiction]]. Then they started beating the crap out of each other. Of course they make up like they always do and go back to their HoYay filled HoYay-filled friendship.



* Characters/{{Deadpool|WadeWilson}}'s "friends" are usually either maiming, insulting, trying to kill him, try to arrest him, or just get away from him. As said by Deadpool himself during Way's run: "There is nobody I hate more than my friends."

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* Characters/{{Deadpool|WadeWilson}}'s "friends" are usually either maiming, insulting, trying to kill him, try trying to arrest him, or just get getting away from him. As said by Deadpool himself during Way's run: "There is nobody I hate more than my friends."



* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': Lucy's treatment of Charlie Brown is utterly horrible, constantly calling him a "blockhead" and other insults to his (bad) luck, lack of intelligence and plainness, the RunningGag of [[YankTheDogsChain pulling the football away]] (which she just won't stop doing even if that means making their team lose at a game in ''It's Your First Kiss Charlie Brown''), [[NeverMyFault blaming him for everything that goes wrong ever]] and even gloating about his humiliation over discovering he got the worst test grades in school in ''WesternAnimation/ThePeanutsMovie'' (and her one line in the film ''WesternAnimation/BonVoyageCharlieBrown'' being the TitleDrop's subtitle, "and don't come back!") , but they still consider each other friends and she occasionally tries to help him (in her own way).

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* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': Lucy's treatment of Charlie Brown is utterly horrible, constantly calling him a "blockhead" and other insults to his (bad) luck, lack of intelligence and plainness, the RunningGag of [[YankTheDogsChain pulling the football away]] (which she just won't stop doing even if that means making their team lose at a game in ''It's Your First Kiss Charlie Brown''), [[NeverMyFault blaming him for everything that goes wrong ever]] and even gloating about his humiliation over discovering he got the worst test grades in school in ''WesternAnimation/ThePeanutsMovie'' (and her one line in the film ''WesternAnimation/BonVoyageCharlieBrown'' being the TitleDrop's subtitle, "and don't come back!") , back!"), but they still consider each other friends and she occasionally tries to help him (in her own way).



* Hector to Jeremy from ''ComicStrip/{{Zits}}''. Most times, he isn't very supportive, preferring to be a DeadpanSnarker instead. Not very helpful for Jeremy's self-esteem. Emblematic in this sense, the series of strips in which both guys do an IQ test, and Jeremy scores only 38. All that Hector (who scored 108) can say in response to depression of a friend, is more or less: "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey, what should I say, I have an underdeveloped as friend.]]" [[spoiler:For the record, at last Jeremy discovers that the test is not reliable at all: his father did the test too, and he scored a little bit too high, for a guy who doesn't even know how to use a computer.]]

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* Hector to Jeremy from ''ComicStrip/{{Zits}}''. Most times, he isn't very supportive, preferring to be a DeadpanSnarker instead. Not very helpful for Jeremy's self-esteem. Emblematic in this sense, the series of strips in which both guys do an IQ test, and Jeremy scores only 38. All that Hector (who scored 108) can say in response to the depression of a friend, is more or less: "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey, what should I say, I have an underdeveloped as friend.]]" [[spoiler:For the record, at last Jeremy discovers that the test is not reliable at all: his father did the test too, and he scored a little bit too high, for a guy who doesn't even know how to use a computer.]]



* ''Film/{{Inception}}'' has Eames and Arthur. One is a chilled out thief, the other is a slightly stuck up researcher type. The fangirls loved this.

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* ''Film/{{Inception}}'' has Eames and Arthur. One is a chilled out chilled-out thief, the other is a slightly stuck up stuck-up researcher type. The fangirls loved this.



* ''Film/RedZoneCuba'': Griffin regularly beats his so called friends, who laugh at each other's suffering.

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* ''Film/RedZoneCuba'': Griffin regularly beats his so called so-called friends, who laugh at each other's suffering.



* ''Film/DevilInABlueDress'': Almost all of Easy's friends wind up manipulating and betraying him for their own ends, and in some cases try to murder him outright. The only exception is Mouse, who is genuinely looking out for him, though Easy isn't particularly happy about this since Mouse is a ruthless and unhinged thug who's idea of helping Easy is to murder anyone who crosses him.

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* ''Film/DevilInABlueDress'': Almost all of Easy's friends wind up manipulating and betraying him for their own ends, and in some cases try to murder him outright. The only exception is Mouse, who is genuinely looking out for him, though Easy isn't particularly happy about this since Mouse is a ruthless and unhinged thug who's whose idea of helping Easy is to murder anyone who crosses him.



* Unknowingly sharing a name with the Trope, is the short story ''With Friends Like These'' by Alan Dean Foster. Several alien races come in search of humanity and Earth after the planet and its inhabitants had been locked away for for millennia for being unable to play nice with the rest of the universe. Now they were desperately needed to defeat aggressive aliens known as Yops. [[spoiler:At first the aliens are disappointed because the humans are hospitable and friendly, but appear utterly defenseless and technologically backwards. Until they find out mankind has... evolved. It's pointed out near the end of the story that the problem exists of what to do with the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Humans]] (and the rest of their planet) once the Yops have been defeated. (At this point it's obvious that the question is no longer ''if'' the Yops will be defeated but only how quickly. One character even remarks that the poor Yops won't know what hit them.)]]

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* Unknowingly sharing a name with the Trope, is the short story ''With Friends Like These'' by Alan Dean Foster. Several alien races come in search of humanity and Earth after the planet and its inhabitants had been locked away for for millennia for being unable to play nice with the rest of the universe. Now they were desperately needed to defeat aggressive aliens known as Yops. [[spoiler:At first the aliens are disappointed because the humans are hospitable and friendly, but appear utterly defenseless and technologically backwards. Until they find out mankind has... evolved. It's pointed out near the end of the story that the problem exists of what to do with the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien Humans]] (and the rest of their planet) once the Yops have been defeated. (At this point it's obvious that the question is no longer ''if'' the Yops will be defeated but only how quickly. One character even remarks that the poor Yops won't know what hit them.)]]



* Quoted words by words in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' regarding the relationship between Phoenix Wright and Kristoph Gavin, as the former tries to pin the later for a murder charge while the later desperately tries to make Phoenix look as bad as possible, although it's briefly mentioned in passing that Kristoph was the only one who defended Phoenix when he lost his badge. [[spoiler:In the flashback case, Kristoph is the one who manipulated his friend into losing his career, meaning the bad blood has been maintained over years before Phoenix finally has an opportunity to take revenge.]]

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* Quoted words by words in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' regarding the relationship between Phoenix Wright and Kristoph Gavin, as the former tries to pin the later latter for a murder charge while the later latter desperately tries to make Phoenix look as bad as possible, although it's briefly mentioned in passing that Kristoph was the only one who defended Phoenix when he lost his badge. [[spoiler:In the flashback case, Kristoph is the one who manipulated his friend into losing his career, meaning the bad blood has been maintained over years before Phoenix finally has an opportunity to take revenge.]]



* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': [[AxCrazy Belkar]] and [[InsufferableGenius Vaarsuvius]]. Vaarsuvius actually attacks Belkar at one point simply due to the fear that Belkar liked V [[ItMakesSenseInContext too much]]. This is a borderline example, though; Belkar and V are part of the same group, but never actually considered each other ''friends''. Then again, V considers very few people to be his/her friends and the only creature that Belkar might see as one is his cat. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0483.html It might not be so borderline after all.]] However, as V postulates, Belkar only hates or lusts after everyone in a binary fashion, so he probably has a very large number of these.

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': [[AxCrazy Belkar]] and [[InsufferableGenius Vaarsuvius]]. Vaarsuvius actually attacks Belkar at one point simply due to the fear that Belkar liked V [[ItMakesSenseInContext too much]]. This is a borderline example, though; Belkar and V are part of the same group, but never actually considered each other ''friends''. Then again, V considers very few people to be his/her friends friends, and the only creature that Belkar might see as one is his cat. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0483.html It might not be so borderline after all.]] However, as V postulates, Belkar only hates or lusts after everyone in a binary fashion, so he probably has a very large number of these.



** ''Definitely'' has Doc Worth and Lamont Toucey. They make a hobby out of beating the everliving shit out of each other (such beatings may end in [[http://rocket-happy.deviantart.com/favourites/#/d2n2ieu childish apologies]]) and insulting each other. They first met when they were kids, and Lamont sneaked into Worth's back yard to get a ball he had thrown too far, and Worth beat him up just for the hell of it. They just started hanging out after that, and they've been best friends ever since.

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** ''Definitely'' has Doc Worth and Lamont Toucey. They make a hobby out of beating the everliving shit out of each other (such beatings may end in [[http://rocket-happy.deviantart.com/favourites/#/d2n2ieu childish apologies]]) and insulting each other. They first met when they were kids, and Lamont sneaked into Worth's back yard backyard to get a ball he had thrown too far, and Worth beat him up just for the hell of it. They just started hanging out after that, and they've been best friends ever since.



* ''WebComic/EightBitTheater'': The Light Warriors push this trope to the breaking point. Whenever they're not bickering, insulting, swindling, and trying to kill each other, they're... doing the same, only to other people. They have very rare bonding moments, usually in the form of CasualDangerDialogue. The only exception is [[TokenGoodTeammate Fighter]], but only because he's such a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter that he doesn't notice he's teammates worser (IE, True) natures.

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* ''WebComic/EightBitTheater'': The Light Warriors push this trope to the breaking point. Whenever they're not bickering, insulting, swindling, and trying to kill each other, they're... doing the same, only to other people. They have very rare bonding moments, usually in the form of CasualDangerDialogue. The only exception is [[TokenGoodTeammate Fighter]], but only because he's such a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter that he doesn't notice he's teammates his teammates' worser (IE, True) natures.



* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': The [[OurTrollsAreDifferent trolls]], coming from [[AliensAreBastards a race of jerkasses]], often bitterly bicker and fight with one another. In most cases, it's simply how they interact, and in the end [[FireForgedFriends they'll work together]]. In others, [[EtTuBrute not so much]]. This is the entire point of the trolls' Ashen and Caliginous quadrants, A.K.A blackrom romance, a relation based off mediation and hate-love respectively.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': The [[OurTrollsAreDifferent trolls]], coming from [[AliensAreBastards a race of jerkasses]], often bitterly bicker and fight with one another. In most cases, it's simply how they interact, and in the end [[FireForgedFriends they'll work together]]. In others, [[EtTuBrute not so much]]. This is the entire point of the trolls' Ashen and Caliginous quadrants, A.K.A blackrom romance, a relation based off on mediation and hate-love respectively.



* ''Webcomic/{{Unsounded}}'': When Prakhuta realizes he's not going to be able to leave with Duane under his control like a pain filled puppet to help feed his magical superweapon he shouts that the whole affair is Bastion's fault, his friend who he tricked into helping him by framing his genocidal ambitions as a noble revolution to free his people who have been treated worse than slaves, slaughtered and had their homes stolen since humans first discovered their underground cities seventy years ago.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Unsounded}}'': When Prakhuta realizes he's not going to be able to leave with Duane under his control like a pain filled pain-filled puppet to help feed his magical superweapon he shouts that the whole affair is Bastion's fault, his friend who he tricked into helping him by framing his genocidal ambitions as a noble revolution to free his people who have been treated worse than slaves, slaughtered and had their homes stolen since humans first discovered their underground cities seventy years ago.



* All of the WebVideo/{{Sidemen}} with one another, considering they run on the principle of banter. There are many times where this bantering leads to them messing with each other. The entire group is full of [[LargeHam ham]] and kooky personalities and even the [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Men]] of the group (Tobi and Josh) aren't immune to this.

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* All of the WebVideo/{{Sidemen}} with one another, considering they run on the principle of banter. There are many times where when this bantering leads to them messing with each other. The entire group is full of [[LargeHam ham]] and kooky personalities and even the [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Men]] of the group (Tobi and Josh) aren't immune to this.



** Despite all the nice things Mario has done for Black Yoshi, like give him food and shelter and hide him from the police whenever he commits crimes, Black Yoshi treats Mario very poorly. He always begs Mario for money and the latest ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' games when the latter get released, he is very ungrateful when Mario gives him things he doesn't like (like the (fictional) ''Call of Duty: Black Ops III'' Wii U bundle), and he has gotten Mario arrested on several occasions. The few times he does save Mario, [[PragmaticVillainy it's usually because Mario is the one who pays the bills and lets him live in his house]].

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** Despite all the nice things Mario has done for Black Yoshi, like give him food and shelter and hide him from the police whenever he commits crimes, Black Yoshi treats Mario very poorly. He always begs Mario for money and the latest ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' games when the latter get gets released, he is very ungrateful when Mario gives him things he doesn't like (like the (fictional) ''Call of Duty: Black Ops III'' Wii U bundle), and he has gotten Mario arrested on several occasions. The few times he does save Mario, [[PragmaticVillainy it's usually because Mario is the one who pays the bills and lets him live in his house]].

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* It's sometimes difficult to tell why the titular ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' are friends at all. Hobbes condescends to Calvin, attacks him for no reason, occasionally bullies him, and has betrayed him for his own gain multiple times, while Calvin tends to see Hobbes as little more than a partner for his own schemes and often treats him no better than Hobbes treats him. The implication seems to be that because Calvin is so terrible, he has to take what friends he can get, and even Hobbes may or may not be imaginary.



* It's sometimes difficult to tell why the titular ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' are friends at all. Hobbes condescends to Calvin, attacks him for no reason, occasionally bullies him, and has betrayed him for his own gain multiple times, while Calvin tends to see Hobbes as little more than a partner for his own schemes and often treats him no better than Hobbes treats him. The implication seems to be that because Calvin is so terrible, he has to take what friends he can get, and even Hobbes may or may not be imaginary.



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* [[Manga/DeathNote Light Yagami and Naomi Misora]] in ''Fanfic/AllYouNeedIsLove'': "Naomi realized her closest friend was a SerialKiller who crashed at her house and tormented her son and husband."
* Ron Weasley and Draco Malfoy in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11291480/10/King-Lightning King Lightning]]''.
-->The boys had become very strange friends. They still despised each other but could often be seen trading the rudest insults to each other over a chessboard.
* In ''Fanfic/WonderfulMazinja'', Taylor and Sophia are friends... after a fashion. Still, they fight and argue constantly, and Taylor pokes fun at Sophia every so often.
* ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfAnElderGod'': Misato and Ritsuko are old friends... although they bicker constantly, and Ritsuko seems to enjoy getting Misato riled.
-->'''Ritsuko:''' Hmm. I see you're busy. When you two are done, I need to see Misato."\\
'''Misato:''' I was just trying to find out who his girlfriend is!\\
'''Ritsuko:''' I suppose he had it written on the inside of his underwear or something?
* In ''Fanfic/OriginStory'', despite everything Alex is doing to help the Scoobies while she's trapped in the [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffyverse]], the Scoobies still treat her like she's a monster who's about to attack them. At one point, Violet the Vampire Slayer points out that Buffy is treating Alex "like a yeast infection," and punches Buffy in the nose when their attitude causes Alex to fly away in tears.
* Discussed in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5710513/chapters/13155583 Renegades]]''. By this point in the ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' timeline, Oliver has thrown Laurel's addiction struggles in her face twice (including telling her to drink herself to death), been completely unsupportive when she was starting as the Black Canary, and has said ''very'' demeaning things to her. Laurel at one point laments to Felicity how bad her relationship with him has become
-->'''Felicity:''' He just snaps at you and gets so angry with you. He’s not like that with anyone else. We all see it. I don’t know why, but I want to believe it comes from some place of caring about you. If he didn’t care he wouldn’t be so angry, right?
-->'''Laurel:''' It was hard, at first, to let go of the idea that he would ever be there for me the way I had been there for him and his family. I thought I was doing so well, until tonight. No one has ever been able to cut me down like he can.
** To his credit, Oliver later admits he's been a terrible friend to her for a while now and starts treating her like an actual friend.
* After filling in for Voldemort in ''Fanfic/ProfessorRiddlesChronicles'', Dolohov sums up his opinion of Hogwarts in the late 1960s: with enemies like these, it’s impossible to win, and with friends like these, even more so.
* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/10731591/chapters/23783283 Echo's of the past]]'' is a look at [[Series/{{Arrow}} Laurel's]] life and the people in it, and largely consists of how terribly most of them have treated her. This is really pointed out in Nyssa's chapter, which starts by pointing out that if Nyssa once poisoned and nearly killed Laurel and is ''still'' one of her closest friends, the only conclusion to draw is that Laurel needs better friends. Nyssa herself comments on this, is genuinely baffled that Laurel still tries to save people who do not care about her.
* In ''Fanfic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'', Izuku still considers the hyper-aggressive {{Jerkass}} Katsuki Bakugou to be his best friend. This is partially due to Izuku's massive guilt complex over nearly killing Katsuki when they were toddlers. Even after everything they've been through and his fear of his growing powers, Izuku can't help but rush into the fray when Katsuki is in danger.
* In ''Fanfic/{{Persephone}}'', it does not take long for the Hooligans them to realize that one of the reasons why Astrid was so quick to join Hiccup and his cause was because he [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe treated her ''far'' better than they ever did.]]
* Lampshaded by Odin in ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/series/1033283 What If]]'' in regards to Heimdall who insists he's loyal to Asgard, not to the throne. Heimdall also insists Loki is a traitor who cannot be trusted, even though all of Loki's actions were actually on Odin's orders. As a result, Odin decides against letting Heimdall work off his prison sentence[[note]]Unlike canon, in which Heimdall was given a century-long sentence for letting Thor and his friends go to Jotunheim against orders[[/note]] because it'd be better to "know he's blind than to rely on untrustworthy eyes".
* In ''Fanfic/TheLongRoad2015'', Hiccup immediately regrets promising to introduce Jack to his friends, as he semi-sarcastically comments that he should have just pretended he didn't know them and he can really only trust Stormfly not to offend.
* ''Fanfic/XMenTheEarlyYears'': Scott, Jean, Hank, Warren, and Bobby are great friends who enjoy making each other miserable every so often.
-->Warren turned to glare at them, "I hope you both realize that you're going to die. And, for good measure, I might just kill Scott for leaving the two of you alone, unsupervised."\\
Hank rolled his eyes. "One of these days you're going to have to tell me where you met Barbie's blow-up, anorexic cousin."\\
"Her name is Candy, Hank," Warren griped. "Thank you SO much for wrecking my date with her."
* In ''Fanfic/EverybodysGottaLeaveSometime'', the ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' gang have a last get-together before parting ways forever. And even though it's their last day together, Lucy and Violet are unable to say their most heartfelt goodbyes to Charlie Brown without adding some putdowns.
* All of Jaune's friends start out like this in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12985655/1/Operation-Jaune-s-Ex-Girlfriend Operation: Jaune's Ex-Girlfriend]]'', forcing him to do things (talking about his ex-girlfriend, trying to get him to reunite with said ex-girlfriend) that he clearly doesn't want to do (them taking their methods [[ExaggeratedTrope Up to Eleven]] probably didn't help matters). Though to be fair, they didn't understand the full scope of the situation and thought they would be doing Jaune a favor in a ToughLove sort of way. Once they finally get all of the details (Jaune's ex-girlfriend is a {{Yandere}} who, among other things, planned to ''kidnap him''), they realize they acted horribly and resolve to [[MustMakeAmends make amends]].
* {{Downplayed|Trope}} in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12981284/8/Heaven-s-Eye Heaven's Eye]]'' when Izuku inwardly speculates that Momo and Iida don't have the highest opinion of him.
-->''Why do I get the feeling these two don't think too highly of me a lot of the time?''
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* ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' has some:
** Edwin, perhaps the most powerful recruitable mage in the game, surely the less humble. He will constantly remember how amazing and superior he is, compared to the main character, while insulting everyone thinking nobody's listening;
** [[spoiler:Safana]], a potential companion in ''VideoGame/{{B|aldursGate}}G1'', but now willingly looking for a bounty on the main character's head once met near the end;
** In the expansion ''Throne of Bhaal'', [[spoiler: Sarevok]] if the player chooses to recruit him, considering the story. However, the player has the choice to pursue a route where he/she can redeem him;
* Happens a lot in the first third of ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. The party tells haughty JerkAss Luke virtually nothing about their motives, intentionally keeps valuable information from him, and is openly defying the one person he trusts. Then, after Luke [[spoiler:is manipulated into destroying Akzeriuth]], they all yell at him for not trusting them.
** Luke himself is typically quite abrasive toward his companions (even [[MoralityPet Ion]] and Mieu, the only two people who put up with him no matter what he does), refuses to admit that he is wrong or that Van is in any way untrustworthy and is also quite selfish (he wants to save Akzeriuth Van's way because it will make him a hero and because Van promised to take him to Daath). [[spoiler:Of course, he's actually ''seven'' so his entire character during that point makes unfortunate sense.]] [[TookALevelInKindness He gets better]], to the point of being the ''nicest'' person in the entire game (discounting Ion).
** They don't really get away from this trope until the end game either as they continue to treat Luke as the ButtMonkey and keep various secrets and avoid talking about their problems. A stand out example is [[spoiler: the fact Anise is TheMole and the consequences of her being such]].
** If this is sounds horribly unfair, well, it's meant to come across that way. One of game's main themes is [[TheScapegoat Scapegoatism]]; the idea that humans, by our very nature, will often try to offload responsibility onto another being or entity rather than deal with it ourselves. Luke, being a Deconstruction of TheChosenOne, makes an easy target for this sort of thing.
* Almost everyone in ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' has at least one of these, and it seems to be one of those inevitable hazards of living in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. Reimu in particular has managed to develop friendships with Suika Ibuki, a StalkerWithoutACrush oni that mooches off of her; Yukari Yakumo, a teasing, scheming RealityWarper; and most notably Marisa Kirisame, an insane [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomaniac]] CuteWitch who has ''twice'' attempted to sic EX bosses on her by giving Reimu's name when introducing herself (Flandre Scarlet in ''Embodiment of Scarlet Devil'' and Mamizou Futatsuiwa in ''Ten Desires'').
* In ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', the crew of the Ebon Hawk, both incarnations. Particularly notable between Carth and Bastila, Bastila and a dark-side player, HK-47 and everyone, Mandalore and Bao-dur, and Kreia and everyone. It's ''much,'' much worse in the second, though. Almost every single person hates everyone else, except for the Exile, who is the reason they're all there in the first place.
* This constantly happens in ''[[VideoGame/ShadowHearts Koudelka]]''. One or more of them argue every time they are in a cut-scene together.
* The Legion and the Trow in ''[[VideoGame/{{Myth}} Myth 2]]''. There's even a mission named after the trope. On the evil side, the Watcher and the Deceiver, whose rivalry stretches back over a millennium, and who actually seem to prefer fighting each other than dealing with the good guys.
* ''[[VideoGame/{{Onmyoji}} Onmyōji]]'': What makes Ibaraki-dōji memorable is his blatantly masochistic loyalty toward his old friend [[JerkAss Shuten-dōji]], even though the latter treats him like dirt the moment they reunite and, as commented by Seimei, never really acted like a proper friend in the first place.
* ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'':
** Sonic and Knuckles in the earlier games. Even [[FireForgedFriends after the two became allies]] at the end of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'', they still find themselves clashing with each other either due to their contrasting attitudes, worldviews, and egos. As time goes on, they're getting along better; but still [[VitriolicBestBuds snark and tease each other every now and then, and like to be smug when they get one over on each other]].
** Even after ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', Sonic considers Shadow a friend, which doesn't explain the times the two hedgehogs clashed due to their conflicting goals in various games, even during the time Shadow had amnesia. Even if Shadow doesn't consider Sonic a friend, he does work well with him when the situation calls for it; and does seem to at least care a bit about him deep down, despite being loath to admit it.
** The Babylon Rogues from the ''VideoGame/SonicRiders'' series come across as this, mostly Wave and Storm who bicker and insult each other to no end, but Jet is also often shown getting annoyed with Wave's [[ControlFreak nagging]] and Storm's [[DumbMuscle daftness]], respectively.
* This can cross over to real life with the ''Film/{{Juon}}'' game for the Wii. Its multiplayer mode is comprised of player 1 playing the game as normal, and player 2 adding to the haunting the player is experiencing with timed button presses.
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', the [[BlackKnight Black Knight]] says the trope (almost) word for word after [[spoiler:[[TheAtoner Gan]][[{{Jerkass}} grel]]]] mocks the hell out of him in Rogues and Redeemers 2. To quote: "With allies like him, who needs enemies?"
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', Ingrid is supposed to be part of the ChildhoodFriends group along with Dimitri, Sylvain, and Felix, but you wouldn't know it from the way she interacts with them, as her supports with them involve her scolding/yelling at them [[InnocentlyInsensitive for]] [[LovableSexManiac various]] [[TheCynic reasons]] and complains about always "having to" run around cleaning up their messes. [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Felix]] arguably counts as well given how abrasive he is, but his attitude is more because of ideological differences than personal ones and he acts like that to pretty much everyone in his House (barring [[MoralityPet Annette]]), not just his friends, and he tends to get called out for his behaviour a lot more than Ingrid does.
* ''VideoGame/TonyHawksUnderground'': Eric Sparrow in a nutshell! The guy starts off as your one true friend you help out and then later attempts to upstage the protagonist of the story just to rise on top in the skating fame by backstabbing the protagonist three times to a point where he's willing to have the protagonist kicked off the team after turning pro. [[spoiler:[[AlternativeEnding It's very refreshing to play the game twice just to get the pleasure to watch the protagonist punch him out]].]]
* The actual name of a mission in ''Videogame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm''. In order to find the place where Jim Raynor is imprisoned, the Raiders want to use Colonel Orlan, the best hacker in the sector. Orlan is being kept on ice since the last game by Mira Han, who'll be happy to turn him over... as soon as Jim gives his okay since the imprisonment deal was made with him. And since she can't just hand over prisoners without damaging her reputation, [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption which as a mercenary is her most prized possession...]] Oh, and she's Matt Horner's (Jim's NumberTwo) accidental ex-wife.

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* ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' has some:
** Edwin, perhaps the most powerful recruitable mage in the game, surely the less humble. He will constantly remember how amazing and superior he is, compared to the main character, while insulting everyone thinking nobody's listening;
** [[spoiler:Safana]], a potential companion in ''VideoGame/{{B|aldursGate}}G1'', but now willingly looking for a bounty on the main character's head once met near the end;
** In the expansion ''Throne of Bhaal'', [[spoiler: Sarevok]] if the player chooses to recruit him, considering the story. However, the player has the choice to pursue a route where he/she can redeem him;
* Happens a lot in the first third of ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. The party tells haughty JerkAss Luke virtually nothing about their motives, intentionally keeps valuable information from him, and is openly defying the one person he trusts. Then, after Luke [[spoiler:is manipulated into destroying Akzeriuth]], they all yell at him for not trusting them.
** Luke himself is typically quite abrasive toward his companions (even [[MoralityPet Ion]] and Mieu, the only two people who put up with him no matter what he does), refuses to admit that he is wrong or that Van is in any way untrustworthy and is also quite selfish (he wants to save Akzeriuth Van's way because it will make him a hero and because Van promised to take him to Daath). [[spoiler:Of course, he's actually ''seven'' so his entire character during that point makes unfortunate sense.]] [[TookALevelInKindness He gets better]], to the point of being the ''nicest'' person in the entire game (discounting Ion).
** They don't really get away from this trope until the end game either as they continue to treat Luke as the ButtMonkey and keep various secrets and avoid talking about their problems. A stand out example is [[spoiler: the fact Anise is TheMole and the consequences of her being such]].
** If this is sounds horribly unfair, well, it's meant to come across that way. One of game's main themes is [[TheScapegoat Scapegoatism]]; the idea that humans, by our very nature, will often try to offload responsibility onto another being or entity rather than deal with it ourselves. Luke, being a Deconstruction of TheChosenOne, makes an easy target for this sort of thing.
* Almost everyone in ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' has at least one of these, and it seems to be one of those inevitable hazards of living in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. Reimu in particular has managed to develop friendships with Suika Ibuki, a StalkerWithoutACrush oni that mooches off of her; Yukari Yakumo, a teasing, scheming RealityWarper; and most notably Marisa Kirisame, an insane [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomaniac]] CuteWitch who has ''twice'' attempted to sic EX bosses on her by giving Reimu's name when introducing herself (Flandre Scarlet in ''Embodiment of Scarlet Devil'' and Mamizou Futatsuiwa in ''Ten Desires'').
* In ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', the crew of the Ebon Hawk, both incarnations. Particularly notable between Carth and Bastila, Bastila and a dark-side player, HK-47 and everyone, Mandalore and Bao-dur, and Kreia and everyone. It's ''much,'' much worse in the second, though. Almost every single person hates everyone else, except for the Exile, who is the reason they're all there in the first place.
* This constantly happens in ''[[VideoGame/ShadowHearts Koudelka]]''. One or more of them argue every time they are in a cut-scene together.
* The Legion and the Trow in ''[[VideoGame/{{Myth}} Myth 2]]''. There's even a mission named after the trope. On the evil side, the Watcher and the Deceiver, whose rivalry stretches back over a millennium, and who actually seem to prefer fighting each other than dealing with the good guys.
* ''[[VideoGame/{{Onmyoji}} Onmyōji]]'': What makes Ibaraki-dōji memorable is his blatantly masochistic loyalty toward his old friend [[JerkAss Shuten-dōji]], even though the latter treats him like dirt the moment they reunite and, as commented by Seimei, never really acted like a proper friend in the first place.
* ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'':
** Sonic and Knuckles in the earlier games. Even [[FireForgedFriends after the two became allies]] at the end of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'', they still find themselves clashing with each other either due to their contrasting attitudes, worldviews, and egos. As time goes on, they're getting along better; but still [[VitriolicBestBuds snark and tease each other every now and then, and like to be smug when they get one over on each other]].
** Even after ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', Sonic considers Shadow a friend, which doesn't explain the times the two hedgehogs clashed due to their conflicting goals in various games, even during the time Shadow had amnesia. Even if Shadow doesn't consider Sonic a friend, he does work well with him when the situation calls for it; and does seem to at least care a bit about him deep down, despite being loath to admit it.
** The Babylon Rogues from the ''VideoGame/SonicRiders'' series come across as this, mostly Wave and Storm who bicker and insult each other to no end, but Jet is also often shown getting annoyed with Wave's [[ControlFreak nagging]] and Storm's [[DumbMuscle daftness]], respectively.
* This can cross over to real life with the ''Film/{{Juon}}'' game for the Wii. Its multiplayer mode is comprised of player 1 playing the game as normal, and player 2 adding to the haunting the player is experiencing with timed button presses.
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', the [[BlackKnight Black Knight]] says the trope (almost) word for word after [[spoiler:[[TheAtoner Gan]][[{{Jerkass}} grel]]]] mocks the hell out of him in Rogues and Redeemers 2. To quote: "With allies like him, who needs enemies?"
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', Ingrid is supposed to be part of the ChildhoodFriends group along with Dimitri, Sylvain, and Felix, but you wouldn't know it from the way she interacts with them, as her supports with them involve her scolding/yelling at them [[InnocentlyInsensitive for]] [[LovableSexManiac various]] [[TheCynic reasons]] and complains about always "having to" run around cleaning up their messes. [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Felix]] arguably counts as well given how abrasive he is, but his attitude is more because of ideological differences than personal ones and he acts like that to pretty much everyone in his House (barring [[MoralityPet Annette]]), not just his friends, and he tends to get called out for his behaviour a lot more than Ingrid does.
* ''VideoGame/TonyHawksUnderground'': Eric Sparrow in a nutshell! The guy starts off as your one true friend you help out and then later attempts to upstage the protagonist of the story just to rise on top in the skating fame by backstabbing the protagonist three times to a point where he's willing to have the protagonist kicked off the team after turning pro. [[spoiler:[[AlternativeEnding It's very refreshing to play the game twice just to get the pleasure to watch the protagonist punch him out]].]]
* The actual name of a mission in ''Videogame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm''. In order to find the place where Jim Raynor is imprisoned, the Raiders want to use Colonel Orlan, the best hacker in the sector. Orlan is being kept on ice since the last game by Mira Han, who'll be happy to turn him over... as soon as Jim gives his okay since the imprisonment deal was made with him. And since she can't just hand over prisoners without damaging her reputation, [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption which as a mercenary is her most prized possession...]] Oh, and she's Matt Horner's (Jim's NumberTwo) accidental ex-wife.
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* In ''VideoGame/Fallout4'', if your relationship with Deacon sinks ''very'' low to the point of him hating you, he'll say this:
-->'''Deacon''': With friends like you, the Railroad doesn't ''need'' enemies!
* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': Michael Townley and Trevor Phillips may just be the best example of this trope. The two fight about everything, from how to approach a job to Michael's decision to retire. Trevor is extremely bitter about Michael giving him up to the police as part of a deal with the FIB and becomes homicidal when he discovers [[spoiler: that their partner Brad was killed, instead of arrested like Trevor thought]]. Yet, no matter how bad things get between them, they can never stop caring about the other's well being. To borrow a quote from ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', they're best friends whether they like it or not.
* In ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'', aside from Sam, it's not really known how close the others were with Hannah, but they were willing to prank her in a humiliating fashion. For that matter, Hannah seemed perfectly okay with having an affair with Mike, knowing he was dating Emily at the time.
** In the present time, Jessica and Emily can get into a nasty catfight. Mike and Matt can wrestle with each other. They still pull pranks on each other which is slightly in poor taste, considering two of their friends (Hannah and Beth) died because of their hijinks the year before.



* ''[[VideoGame/CrisisCore Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core]]'' has Genesis on the giving end. He's extremely petty towards Angeal and especially Sephiroth, whether out of not taking their concerns seriously (Angeal) or simple jealousy (Sephiroth). It's pretty telling that Sephiroth tells him he can ''rot'' after everything he pulls.
* ''VideoGame/DragonQuestV'': Tuppence Tends to be unusually rude to his king, to the point of planning to steal his wife from him after he dies. He does respect him as a leader though, he's just envious of his skill with the ladies.

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* Characters/{{Deadpool|WadeWilson}}'s "friends" are usually either maiming, insulting, trying to kill him, try to arrest him, or just get away from him. As said by Deadpool himself during Way's run: "There is nobody I hate more than my friends."



* Akbar and Jeff from ''ComicStrip/LifeInHell'' may love each other, but they have quite a few desires to physically destroy each other.


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* ''Film/DevilInABlueDress'': Almost all of Easy's friends wind up manipulating and betraying him for their own ends, and in some cases try to murder him outright. The only exception is Mouse, who is genuinely looking out for him, though Easy isn't particularly happy about this since Mouse is a ruthless and unhinged thug who's idea of helping Easy is to murder anyone who crosses him.
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** If this is sounds horribly unfair, well, it's meant to come across that way. One of game's main themes is [[TheScapegoat Scapegoatism]]; the idea that humans, by our very nature, will often try to offload responsibility onto another being or entity rather than deal with it ourselves. Luke, being a Deconstruction of TheChosenOne, makes an easy target for this sort of thing.
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* It's hard to call ''Film/BadBoys'' a [[BuddyCopShow Buddy Cop film]], since Mike and Marcus spend so much time fighting and throwing insults at each other, with few moments of peace and friendship. In ''Film/BadBoysII'', on the other hand, they're practically HeterosexualLifePartners.

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* [[BigEater Meeko]] and [[ButtMonkey Percy]] (somehow) become friends at the end of ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}''. Enter the DirectToVideo [[WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld sequel]], and [[{{Jerkass}} Meeko]] is still tormenting Percy by stealing his food. Meeko and [[StraightMan Flit]] also have this dynamic, though to a lesser degree.
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* [[BigEater Meeko]] and [[ButtMonkey Percy]] (somehow) become friends at the end of ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}''. Enter the DirectToVideo [[WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld sequel]], and [[{{Jerkass}} Meeko]] is still tormenting Percy by stealing his food. Meeko and [[StraightMan Flit]] also have this dynamic, though to a lesser degree.
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** In the ''Literature/StarTrekNovelVerse'' overall, the Federation/Klingon alliance tends to be this more often than not - Chancellor Martok is a staunch supporter of the alliance after ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine,'' but this tends to create a lot of tension between segments of the Klingon High Council who still can't get over the fact that the historical conflicts with the Federation have never been resolved by battle, regardless of how worthwhile the alliance has proven. Meanwhile, on the Federation side of things, during the [[Literature/StarTrekATimeTo special election for Federation president in 2379,]] while canny enough to not outright say he wanted to dissolve the Khitomer Accords, candidate Fel Prago still openly made many questions about why the Federation was allied with a species and government who openly engage in campaigns of conquering other races and are constantly seeking a fight with their stellar neighbors such as the Romulans. There are times that the Federation-Klingon alliance seems to persist more because the two sides don't quite want to get caught up in a losing war, as opposed to a genuine desire for peace between the two nations.
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* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Acrhie, verging on bullying. Additonally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.
* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and Characters/DoctorDoom have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.

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* In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Acrhie, verging on bullying. Additonally, Additionally, Betty and Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.
* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and Characters/DoctorDoom [[Characters/MarvelComicsDoctorDoom Doctor Doom]] have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.



* In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, Franchise/{{Superman}}'s friends, especially [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois Lane]], have a strange predilection for trying to discover his secret identity against his obvious wishes. In the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]], the writers get away from that when they presumably realized a true friend would respect his privacy.

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* In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, Franchise/{{Superman}}'s Characters/{{Superman|TheCharacter}}'s friends, especially [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois Lane]], have a strange predilection for trying to discover his secret identity against his obvious wishes. In the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]], the writers get away from that when they presumably realized a true friend would respect his privacy.



* Hector to Jeremy from ''ComicStrip/{{Zits}}''. Most times, he isn't very supportive, preferring to be a DeadpanSnarker instead. Not very helpful for Jeremy's self-esteem. Emblematic in this sense, the series of strips in which both guys do an IQ test, and Jeremy scores only 38. All that Hector (who scored 108) can say in response to depression of a friend, is more or less: "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey, what should I say, I have an underdeveloped as friend.]]". [[spoiler:For the record, at last Jeremy discovers that the test is not reliable at all: his father did the test too, and he scored a little bit too high, for a guy who doesn't even know how to use a computer.]]

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* Hector to Jeremy from ''ComicStrip/{{Zits}}''. Most times, he isn't very supportive, preferring to be a DeadpanSnarker instead. Not very helpful for Jeremy's self-esteem. Emblematic in this sense, the series of strips in which both guys do an IQ test, and Jeremy scores only 38. All that Hector (who scored 108) can say in response to depression of a friend, is more or less: "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey, what should I say, I have an underdeveloped as friend.]]". ]]" [[spoiler:For the record, at last Jeremy discovers that the test is not reliable at all: his father did the test too, and he scored a little bit too high, for a guy who doesn't even know how to use a computer.]]
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* [[Characters/BatmanTheJoker The Joker]] and [[Characters/BatmanThePenguin The Penguin]], believe it or not. Between regularly scheduled betrayal, multiple acts of attempted murder, and verbal and physical abuse (both men seem to really enjoy watching each other suffer), they still insist they're friends. Joker even cried when he thought Penguin had died and worked with Batman to catch the culprit. [[spoiler:When he found out Penguin was FakingTheDead he did try to murder him for real, but this being the Joker the Penguin was lucky it was only a token attempt.]] At times, the role of The Joker has been replaced by [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGalleryPart2 The Riddler]] (not the first time this has happened in a Batman franchise) as best frenemies with Penguin.
* [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}. Somewhere beneath the bickering, insults, fights, differences, and rivalries are two men that actually do respect one another, care about each other, and are even friends. In fact, Logan's entire position over Schism is revealed in ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' #40 to ultimately come down to Logan believing Scott actually ''is'' the better man, and that it's not right for him to be taking the darker approach. Logan genuinely wants to protect Scott from dirtying his hands and conscience with the ugly things that Logan generally does on the X-Men's behalf.

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* [[Characters/BatmanTheJoker The Joker]] and [[Characters/BatmanThePenguin The Penguin]], believe it or not. Between regularly scheduled betrayal, multiple acts of attempted murder, and verbal and physical abuse (both men seem to really enjoy watching each other suffer), they still insist they're friends. Joker even cried when he thought Penguin had died and worked with Batman to catch the culprit. [[spoiler:When he found out Penguin was FakingTheDead he did try to murder him for real, but this being the Joker the Penguin was lucky it was only a token attempt.]] At times, the role of The Joker has been replaced by [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGalleryPart2 [[Characters/BatmanTheRiddler The Riddler]] (not the first time this has happened in a Batman franchise) as best frenemies with Penguin.
* [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}.Characters/{{Wolverine|JamesLoganHowlett}}. Somewhere beneath the bickering, insults, fights, differences, and rivalries are two men that actually do respect one another, care about each other, and are even friends. In fact, Logan's entire position over Schism is revealed in ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' #40 to ultimately come down to Logan believing Scott actually ''is'' the better man, and that it's not right for him to be taking the darker approach. Logan genuinely wants to protect Scott from dirtying his hands and conscience with the ugly things that Logan generally does on the X-Men's behalf.

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* [[Characters/HellblazerJohnConstantine John Constantine]] and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:nearly the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)
%%* Both Archie and Reggie, along with Betty and Veronica, from ComicBook/ArchieComics.
* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and Characters/DoctorDoom have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.\\
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Namor is also strained friends with the ComicBook/FantasticFour, in spite of fighting against them countless times. No matter how many times they seem to clash, the Four still come to him if he can help them, and vice-versa. Granted, it's not clear just how much of his willingness to help the group comes from thinking Sue is hot.

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* [[Characters/HellblazerJohnConstantine John Constantine]] and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:nearly [[spoiler:practically the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)
%%* Both * In the ComicBook/ArchieComics, Archie and Reggie, along with Reggie are sometimes described as being friends, but Reggie is very antagonistic towards Acrhie, verging on bullying. Additonally, Betty and Veronica, from ComicBook/ArchieComics.
Veronica are close friends, yet are regularly seen fighting, often over Archie himself.
* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and Characters/DoctorDoom have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.\\
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Namor is also strained friends with the ComicBook/FantasticFour, in spite of fighting against them countless times. No matter how many times they seem to clash, the Four still come to him if he can help them, and vice-versa. Granted, it's not clear just how much of his willingness to help the group comes from thinking Sue is hot.
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Compare to FairWeatherFriend (which one could say is a SubTrope to this one). Also, WeUsedToBeFriends, where their relationship evolved from "friends" to "enemies", but wasn't both at once.

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* In ''Fanfic/{{Wonderful}}'', Taylor and Sophia are friends... after a fashion. Still, they fight and argue constantly, and Taylor pokes fun at Sophia every so often.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': The [[OurTrollsAreDifferent trolls]], coming from [[AliensAreBastards a race of jerkasses]], often bitterly bicker and fight with one another. In most cases, it's simply how they interact, and in the end [[FireForgedFriends they'll work together]]. In others, [[EtTuBrute not so much]]. The entire point of the trolls' Ashen and Caliginous quadrants, A.K.A blackrom romance, a relation based off mediation and FoeYay respectively.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': The [[OurTrollsAreDifferent trolls]], coming from [[AliensAreBastards a race of jerkasses]], often bitterly bicker and fight with one another. In most cases, it's simply how they interact, and in the end [[FireForgedFriends they'll work together]]. In others, [[EtTuBrute not so much]]. The This is the entire point of the trolls' Ashen and Caliginous quadrants, A.K.A blackrom romance, a relation based off mediation and FoeYay hate-love respectively.
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* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': Lucy's treatment of Charlie Brown is utterly horrible, constantly calling him a "blockhead" and other insults to his (bad) luck, lack of intelligence and plainness, the RunningGag of [[YankTheDogsChain pulling the football away]] (which she just won't stop doing even if that means making their team lose at a game in ''It's Your First Kiss Charlie Brown''), [[NeverMyFault blaming him for everything that goes wrong ever]] and even gloating about his humiliation over discovering he got the worst test grades in school in ''WesternAnimation/ThePeanutsMovie'', but they still consider each other friends and she occasionally tries to help him (in her own way).

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* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': Lucy's treatment of Charlie Brown is utterly horrible, constantly calling him a "blockhead" and other insults to his (bad) luck, lack of intelligence and plainness, the RunningGag of [[YankTheDogsChain pulling the football away]] (which she just won't stop doing even if that means making their team lose at a game in ''It's Your First Kiss Charlie Brown''), [[NeverMyFault blaming him for everything that goes wrong ever]] and even gloating about his humiliation over discovering he got the worst test grades in school in ''WesternAnimation/ThePeanutsMovie'', ''WesternAnimation/ThePeanutsMovie'' (and her one line in the film ''WesternAnimation/BonVoyageCharlieBrown'' being the TitleDrop's subtitle, "and don't come back!") , but they still consider each other friends and she occasionally tries to help him (in her own way).
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You don't want to see his enmity kick.]]

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You don't want to see his enmity enemy kick.]]
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* ''Webcomic/{{Unsounded}}'': When Prakhuta realizes he's not going to be able to leave with Duane under his control like a pain filled puppet to help feed his magical superweapon he shouts that the whole affair is Bastion's fault, his friend who he tricked into helping him by framing his genocidal ambitions as a noble revolution to free his people who have been treated worse than slaves, slaughtered and had their homes stolen since humans first discovered their underground cities seventy years ago.
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...Who needs enemies?

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...Who ''...who needs enemies?
enemies?''
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...WhoNeedsEnemies

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** The player has obviously the possibility to embody the trope against his companions, not only by abusing game mechanics against them but even story-wise by choosing determinate paths! The first example is right at the beginning if the player chooses to leave behind his caged former companions, instead of rescuing them. But probably the most blatant example is hijacking Anomen's path to knighthood by leading him into bad deeds, giving evil advice, and maybe even blaming him for the inevitable consequences of such behaviour.
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* ComicBook/JohnConstantine and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:nearly the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)

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* ComicBook/JohnConstantine [[Characters/HellblazerJohnConstantine John Constantine]] and Chas Chandler in ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}''. (Arguably, this trope describes nearly all of Constantine's relationships, be they friends, relatives or lovers, but Chas, being [[spoiler:nearly the only person close to John who's still alive]], is the prime example.)



* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and [[Characters/MarvelComicsDoctorDoom Doctor Doom]] have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.\\

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* ''ComicBook/SubMariner'' - Namor and [[Characters/MarvelComicsDoctorDoom Doctor Doom]] Characters/DoctorDoom have had this going for ''decades''. Both are leaders of small, isolated nations, and both are considered ruthless by the outside world, so they relate to each other quite well. However, Doom's a true villain and Namor's just determined to protect his people, so they often wind up on the opposite side of conflicts.\\



* The page image shows [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (during his Batman days) and Roy Harper at the lowest point in their friendship; Roy was tripping on drugs and attacking civilians, and afterwards Dick abandoned Roy in prison. This isn't the first time these best friends came to blows either. When they were both on the Outsiders an argument concerning how the team was run devolved into petty insults. When Roy [[BerserkButton badmouthed Batman]] Dick responded by badmouthing ComicBook/GreenArrow and brought up Roy's [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten heroin addiction]]. Then they started beating the crap out of each other. Of course they make up like they always do and go back to their HoYay filled friendship.
* ComicBook/TheJoker and ComicBook/ThePenguin, believe it or not. Between regularly scheduled betrayal, multiple acts of attempted murder, and verbal and physical abuse (both men seem to really enjoy watching each other suffer), they still insist they're friends. Joker even cried when he thought Penguin had died and worked with Batman to catch the culprit. [[spoiler:When he found out Penguin was FakingTheDead he did try to murder him for real, but this being the Joker the Penguin was lucky it was only a token attempt.]] At times, the role of The Joker has been replaced by ComicBook/TheRiddler (not the first time this has happened in a Batman franchise) as best frenemies with Penguin.
* ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}. Somewhere beneath the bickering, insults, fights, differences, and rivalries are two men that actually do respect one another, care about each other, and are even friends. In fact, Logan's entire position over Schism is revealed in ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' #40 to ultimately come down to Logan believing Scott actually ''is'' the better man, and that it's not right for him to be taking the darker approach. Logan genuinely wants to protect Scott from dirtying his hands and conscience with the ugly things that Logan generally does on the X-Men's behalf.

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* The page image shows [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Dick Grayson]] (during his Batman days) and Roy Harper at the lowest point in their friendship; Roy was tripping on drugs and attacking civilians, and afterwards Dick abandoned Roy in prison. This isn't the first time these best friends came to blows either. When they were both on the Outsiders an argument concerning how the team was run devolved into petty insults. When Roy [[BerserkButton badmouthed Batman]] Dick responded by badmouthing ComicBook/GreenArrow and brought up Roy's [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten heroin addiction]]. Then they started beating the crap out of each other. Of course they make up like they always do and go back to their HoYay filled friendship.
* ComicBook/TheJoker [[Characters/BatmanTheJoker The Joker]] and ComicBook/ThePenguin, [[Characters/BatmanThePenguin The Penguin]], believe it or not. Between regularly scheduled betrayal, multiple acts of attempted murder, and verbal and physical abuse (both men seem to really enjoy watching each other suffer), they still insist they're friends. Joker even cried when he thought Penguin had died and worked with Batman to catch the culprit. [[spoiler:When he found out Penguin was FakingTheDead he did try to murder him for real, but this being the Joker the Penguin was lucky it was only a token attempt.]] At times, the role of The Joker has been replaced by ComicBook/TheRiddler [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGalleryPart2 The Riddler]] (not the first time this has happened in a Batman franchise) as best frenemies with Penguin.
* ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}. Somewhere beneath the bickering, insults, fights, differences, and rivalries are two men that actually do respect one another, care about each other, and are even friends. In fact, Logan's entire position over Schism is revealed in ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' #40 to ultimately come down to Logan believing Scott actually ''is'' the better man, and that it's not right for him to be taking the darker approach. Logan genuinely wants to protect Scott from dirtying his hands and conscience with the ugly things that Logan generally does on the X-Men's behalf.



* In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, Franchise/{{Superman}}'s friends, especially ComicBook/LoisLane, have a strange predilection for trying to discover his secret identity against his obvious wishes. In the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]], the writers get away from that when they presumably realized a true friend would respect his privacy.

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* In UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, Franchise/{{Superman}}'s friends, especially ComicBook/LoisLane, [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois Lane]], have a strange predilection for trying to discover his secret identity against his obvious wishes. In the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]], the writers get away from that when they presumably realized a true friend would respect his privacy.



* All of Jaune's friends start out like this in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12985655/1/Operation-Jaune-s-Ex-Girlfriend Operation: Jaune's Ex-Girlfriend]]'', forcing him to do things (talking about his ex-girlfriend, trying to get him to reunite with said ex-girlfriend) that he clearly doesn't want to do (them taking their methods UpToEleven probaby didn't help matters). Though to be fair, they didn't understand the full scope of the situation and thought they would be doing Jaune a favor in a ToughLove sort of way. Once they finally get all of the details (Jaune's ex-girlfriend is a {{Yandere}} who, among other things, planned to ''kidnap him''), they realize they acted horribly and resolve to [[MustMakeAmends make amends]].

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* All of Jaune's friends start out like this in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12985655/1/Operation-Jaune-s-Ex-Girlfriend Operation: Jaune's Ex-Girlfriend]]'', forcing him to do things (talking about his ex-girlfriend, trying to get him to reunite with said ex-girlfriend) that he clearly doesn't want to do (them taking their methods UpToEleven probaby [[ExaggeratedTrope Up to Eleven]] probably didn't help matters). Though to be fair, they didn't understand the full scope of the situation and thought they would be doing Jaune a favor in a ToughLove sort of way. Once they finally get all of the details (Jaune's ex-girlfriend is a {{Yandere}} who, among other things, planned to ''kidnap him''), they realize they acted horribly and resolve to [[MustMakeAmends make amends]].



* Lampshaded in ''Literature/FiveHundredYearsAfter''. A character mentions that Sethra Lavode and Aliera e'Kieron seem to have become very good friends in the last few days. When someone else expresses confusion, saying that he'd heard they were challenging each other to duels to the death roughly every 10 minutes, the first replies, basically, "They're from [[PlanetOfHats Houses]] [[ProudWarriorRace Dragon and Dzur]]. Why ''wouldn't'' that make them friends?"

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* Lampshaded in ''Literature/FiveHundredYearsAfter''. A character mentions that Sethra Lavode and Aliera e'Kieron seem to have become very good friends in the last few days. When someone else expresses confusion, saying that he'd heard they were challenging each other to duels to the death roughly every 10 minutes, the first replies, basically, "They're from [[PlanetOfHats Houses]] [[ProudWarriorRace [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Dragon and Dzur]]. Why ''wouldn't'' that make them friends?"



* " In the "Enchanted Edition" of ''Theatre/RodgersAndHammersteinsCinderella'', Cinderella evokes the classic phrase by saying "With a fairy godmother like this, who needs a stepmother?" after the aforementioned Fairy Godmother insists that wishes are "poppycock and twaddle" and dreamers are "dizzy in the noodle." Her Godmother is really trying to help her, though, by teaching her to follow her dreams instead of just wishing and waiting to be rescued

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* " In the "Enchanted Edition" of ''Theatre/RodgersAndHammersteinsCinderella'', Cinderella evokes the classic phrase by saying "With a fairy godmother like this, who needs a stepmother?" after the aforementioned Fairy Godmother insists that wishes are "poppycock and twaddle" and dreamers are "dizzy in the noodle." Her Godmother is really trying to help her, though, by teaching her to follow her dreams instead of [[HoldingOutForAHero just wishing and waiting to be rescuedrescued]].
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" In the "Enchanted Edition" of ''Theatre/RodgersAndHammersteinsCinderella'', Cinderella evokes the classic phrase by saying "With a fairy godmother like this, who needs a stepmother?" after the aforementioned Fairy Godmother insists that wishes are "poppycock and twaddle" and dreamers are "dizzy in the noodle." Her Godmother is really trying to help her, though, by teaching her to follow her dreams instead of just wishing and waiting to be rescued

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* " In the "Enchanted Edition" of ''Theatre/RodgersAndHammersteinsCinderella'', Cinderella evokes the classic phrase by saying "With a fairy godmother like this, who needs a stepmother?" after the aforementioned Fairy Godmother insists that wishes are "poppycock and twaddle" and dreamers are "dizzy in the noodle." Her Godmother is really trying to help her, though, by teaching her to follow her dreams instead of just wishing and waiting to be rescued
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* A large part of ''Website/{{Superdickery}}'' is taking out-of-context (or just plain bizarre) images to make it look like most of DC's superheroes and supporting casts have it out for each other. The most famous examples are of course Superman being a complete dick to everyone he knows (especially Lois and Jimmy), but Batman, Supergirl, Lois, Jimmy, and even ''Clark Kent'' get in on the action. And yes, there are covers where Clark and Superman are dicks to each other. Somehow.

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