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* Peter to Chris on ''FamilyGuy'', to the point of IncestYay. But it's ''FamilyGuy'', so IncestYay is par for the course.

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* Peter to Chris on ''FamilyGuy'', to the point of IncestYay. IncestSubtext. But it's ''FamilyGuy'', so IncestYay IncestSubtext is par for the course.
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* Rick Pym in John Le Carré's ''A Perfect Spy'', who uses his son Magnus in many of his scams.

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* Rick Pym in John Le Carré's JohnLeCarre's ''A Perfect Spy'', who uses his son Magnus in many of his scams.
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* Rick Pym in John Le Carré's ''A Perfect Spy'', who uses his son Magnus in many of his scams.
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Can lead to WellDoneSonGuy or IncestYay.

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Can lead to WellDoneSonGuy or IncestYay.
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John Winchester is a control freak. Not this.


* John Winchester on ''{{Supernatural}}''. He raised his kids to fight demons and pretty much skipped out on other aspects of parenting. He would regularly move the family into a new town, enroll his sons in school and then leave for months leaving the teenage Dean in charge. When he came back from monster hunting he would take the boys out of school and move somewhere else.
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* Patrick Zala in ''GundamSeed'' treats his son Athrun as though he were any other subordinate. Complete with shooting him for treason.

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* Patrick Zala in ''GundamSeed'' treats his son Athrun as though he were any other subordinate. Complete with shooting him Given that Patrick is a paranoid and genocidal GeneralRipper this is not a good thing. By the end he's attempted to personally execute Athrun for treason.
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not always male as established in the examples


You've got your cool dad. And then you've got... this guy. He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Can border on its own form of abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.

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You've got your cool dad. You've got your AbusiveDad. And then you've got... this guy. He views his son (and this (this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) almost AlwaysMale) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Can border on its own form of abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.
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* Patrick Zala in ''GundamSeed'' treats his son Athrun as though he were any other subordinate. Complete with shooting him for treason.

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You've got your cool dad. And then you've got...this guy. He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Can border on its own form of abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.

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You've got your cool dad. And then you've got... this guy. He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Can border on its own form of abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.


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* This is almost how the de Blois family relationship works out in ''{{Gosick}}'', with Albert being so obsessed with preparing for WorldWarII that Grevil is an easily intimidated (mostly) ineffectual police inspector [[spoiler:and Victorique's own upbringing being as it is, considering he only sees her as a tool for what's to come.]]

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* Rare female example: Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}''. Actually, any parent in ''Pokemon'', considering that there are probably millions of kids all over the world wandering around the countryside fighting dangerous animals with other dangerous animals.
* Parodied on ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''.
* [[DragonballZ Son Goku]], full stop. With both Gohan and Goten.
* Pretty much any parent on ''{{Digimon}}''.
* On ''FullmetalAlchemist'', after DisappearedDad Hohenheim comes back to see his kids (who are only 15 and 14), he figures they've taken care of themselves long enough that it doesn't really matter if he takes up a fathering role. And so he leaves ''again''!
** Then again his kids are [[{{Badass}} Edward and Alphonse Elric]].
** Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!
* Isshin Kurosaki in ''{{Bleach}}'' generally takes this attitude in his relationship with Ichigo. This changes when Isshin encounters Ichigo in shinigami form.
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* Rare female example: Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}''. Actually, any parent in ''Pokemon'', considering that there are probably millions of kids all over the world wandering around the countryside fighting dangerous animals with other dangerous animals.
* Parodied on ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''.
* [[DragonballZ Son Goku]], full stop. With both Gohan and Goten.
* Pretty much any parent on ''{{Digimon}}''.
* On ''FullmetalAlchemist'', after DisappearedDad Hohenheim comes back to see his kids (who are only 15 and 14), he figures they've taken care of themselves long enough that it doesn't really matter if he takes up a fathering role. And so he leaves ''again''!
** Then again his kids are [[{{Badass}} Edward and Alphonse Elric]].
** Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!
* Isshin Kurosaki in ''{{Bleach}}'' generally takes this attitude in his relationship with Ichigo. This changes when Isshin encounters Ichigo in shinigami form.
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* ''{{Gigantor}}''. Just, ''{{Gigantor}}''.
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* John Winchester on ''{{Supernatural}}''. He raised his kids to fight demons.

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* John Winchester on ''{{Supernatural}}''. He raised his kids to fight demons.demons and pretty much skipped out on other aspects of parenting. He would regularly move the family into a new town, enroll his sons in school and then leave for months leaving the teenage Dean in charge. When he came back from monster hunting he would take the boys out of school and move somewhere else.
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* [[Archer]], to the most ludicrous degree.

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* [[Archer]], {{Archer}}, to the most ludicrous degree. degree with the wee baby shamus, who's still an infant.

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* Any parents who let their kids stay at Michael Jackson's after the child molestation accusations.
** Because trusting a friend of yours not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.
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* [[Archer]], to the most ludicrous degree.
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* Isshin Kurosaki in ''{{Bleach}}'' generally takes this attitude in his relationship with Ichigo. This changes when Isshin encounters Ichigo in shinigami form.
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* Rare female example: Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}''.

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* Rare female example: Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}''. Actually, any parent in ''Pokemon'', considering that there are probably millions of kids all over the world wandering around the countryside fighting dangerous animals with other dangerous animals.
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* Henry Jones Sr., to such an extent that [[IndianaJones his son]] preferred to be named after the dog instead.
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* The KingOfAllCosmos kicks off the first ''KatamariDamacy'' by going on a drunken bender and knocking all the stars out of the sky. He then sends his tiny son to clean up the mess for him, placing completely arbitrary conditions on his rolling. Don't roll a big enough katamari before his patience runs out? [[ItsAWonderfulFailure Punishment time]]!
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* [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Fire Lord Ozai.]] Yes, his son survived what he put him through, with Uncle's help, and yes, his daughter was a highly competent CompleteMonster, but he did not do the parenting thing, and sent them both into great danger very casually. Azula at least he trained personally.

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* [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Fire Lord Ozai.]] [[BigBad Fire]] [[AbusiveParents Lord]] [[CompleteMonster Ozai]] from ''AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Yes, his son survived what he put him through, with Uncle's help, and yes, his daughter was a highly competent CompleteMonster, but he did not do the parenting thing, and sent them both into great danger very casually. Azula at least he trained personally.
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** Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!

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** Anime **Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga **Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of ***Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed ****Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!



** Because trusting a friend of yours not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.

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** Because **Because trusting a friend of yours not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.
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** Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!

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** Anime **Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
** Manga **Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
*** Of ***Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
**** Ed ****Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!



** Because trusting a friends of your not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.

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** Because **Because trusting a friends friend of your yours not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.
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**Anime Hohenheim was pathetic and low in pretty much every arena possible. Al really wanted him to stay, but he didn't listen. His {{Wangst}} reaches really annoying levels when you find out just how much of an asshole he is.
**Manga Hohenheim, on the other hand, met Ed and got summarily rejected, left again. Met Al much, much later and achieved an okay relationship with him with large amounts of communication and lots of comic relief, but in this case he treated both his teenage sons as at-least-equal combatants in the world-saving endeavor that he left them to work on in the first place. Very awkward about the whole father thing.
***Of course, given what happened to him [[BigBad last time]] he accepted a fatherly role...
****Ed wouldn't '''really''' make a philosopher's stone!


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**Because trusting a friends of your not to molest your kids despite hearsay is '''wrong'''.


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* [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Fire Lord Ozai.]] Yes, his son survived what he put him through, with Uncle's help, and yes, his daughter was a highly competent CompleteMonster, but he did not do the parenting thing, and sent them both into great danger very casually. Azula at least he trained personally.
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** Then again his kids are [[{{Badass}} Edward and Alphonse Elric]].
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* On ''FullmetalAlchemist'', after DissappearedDad Hohenheim comes back to see his kids (who are only 15 and 14), he figures they've taken care of themselves long enough that it doesn't really matter if he takes up a fathering role. And so he leaves ''again''!

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* On ''FullmetalAlchemist'', after DissappearedDad DisappearedDad Hohenheim comes back to see his kids (who are only 15 and 14), he figures they've taken care of themselves long enough that it doesn't really matter if he takes up a fathering role. And so he leaves ''again''!
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* On ''FullmetalAlchemist'', after DissappearedDad Hohenheim comes back to see his kids (who are only 15 and 14), he figures they've taken care of themselves long enough that it doesn't really matter if he takes up a fathering role. And so he leaves ''again''!
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You've got your CoolDad. And then you've got...this guy. He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Specifically this case is where it borders on abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.

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You've got your CoolDad.cool dad. And then you've got...this guy. He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Specifically this case is where it borders Can border on its own form of abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.
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You've got your abusive parents. And then you've got...this guy. Not really abusive. Quite the contrary, he views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.

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You've got your abusive parents.CoolDad. And then you've got...this guy. Not really abusive. Quite the contrary, he He views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring.monitoring, instruction, or the rest of the whole parenting game. Specifically this case is where it borders on abuse. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.
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* Son Goku, full stop. With both Gohan and Goten.

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* [[DragonballZ Son Goku, Goku]], full stop. With both Gohan and Goten.

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Click the edit button to start You've got your abusive parents. And then you've got...this new page. guy. Not really abusive. Quite the contrary, he views his son (and this is AlwaysMale, in fiction and in RealLife; [[DoubleStandard girls are precious]]) as an equal and in no real need of monitoring. The child ranges from prepubescent to simply not meeting one's cultural definition of adulthood.

Can lead to WellDoneSonGuy or IncestYay.

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*Magneto is this to both his children.
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* Luke Skywalker in the StarWarsExpandedUniverse: Ben literally gets away with murder in LegacyOfTheForce. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking He steals a Y-wing too.]]
** Han oscillates between this and PapaWolf. After the NJO, he's all PapaWolf.
* In ''TheAbsolutelyTrueDiaryOfAPartTimeIndian'', Arnold Spirit Sr. is portrayed as this, to the point of talking dirty to his son.
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* John Winchester on ''{{Supernatural}}''. He raised his kids to fight demons.
* ''DegrassiTheNextGeneration'' has several, since AdultsAreUseless:
** Toby's dad has a disturbing [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment punishment]] for him and JT for watching porn.
** Craig's dad is abusive. Naturally Joey goes to the opposite extreme.
** Tracker, somewhat justified by the fact that Tracker is Sean's brother, not his father. But that doesn't explain why Tracker lets Sean stay in Toronto when he moved to Alberta. Indeed, Sean in general follows the RuleOfCool.
** Peter's dad.
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* Rare female example: Ash's mom from ''{{Pokemon}}''.
* ''{{Gigantor}}''. Just, ''{{Gigantor}}''.
* Parodied on ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''.
* Son Goku, full stop. With both Gohan and Goten.
* Pretty much any parent on ''{{Digimon}}''.
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* Any parents who let their kids stay at Michael Jackson's after the child molestation accusations.
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* Granddad from ''TheBoondocks''. Riley hangs around known criminals, Huey has a massive weapons stockpile, and Granddad doesn't care. Though he does beat them when they do something bad.
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* Maduin in ''FinalFantasyVI'' seems to be this.
* Dr. Light, justified in that Rock and Blues are, you know, robots. But his feminine robots don't fight.
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* Dr. Rusty Venture on ''TheVentureBros''. He even hires Sgt. Hatred (a known pedophile) as a bodyguard, and when it's revealed Hatred has a nickname for Hank, Rusty simply says [[{{Shotacon}} "You're sleeping with him, aren't you?"]]
* ''All'' the ''SouthPark'' parents are portrayed as this.
* Peter to Chris on ''FamilyGuy'', to the point of IncestYay. But it's ''FamilyGuy'', so IncestYay is par for the course.
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