Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / Utopia

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Webcomic/ExistentialComics'': Creator/ThomasMore's ''Literature/{{Utopia}}'' (along with utopias generally) [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/382 is deconstructed]] through pointing out both some appealing and unappealing aspects in his, then noting they always seem to be bland places which appeal most to the author themselves rather than anyone else.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean [[PerfectionIsImpossible such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good]].[[note:The word is actually a pun; 'utopia' by itself means 'no place', but is pronounced identically (in English at least) to 'eutopia', meaning 'good place'.[[/note]]

to:

In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean [[PerfectionIsImpossible such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good]].[[note:The [[note]]The word is actually a pun; 'utopia' by itself means 'no place', but is pronounced identically (in English at least) to 'eutopia', meaning 'good place'.[[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean [[PerfectionIsImpossible such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good]].

to:

In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean [[PerfectionIsImpossible such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good]].
good]].[[note:The word is actually a pun; 'utopia' by itself means 'no place', but is pronounced identically (in English at least) to 'eutopia', meaning 'good place'.[[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
New example in Web Original

Added DiffLines:

* Twilight Mirage - 4th season of ''Podcast/FriendsAtTheTable'' is explicitly described as "utopia in decline", but utopia nonetheless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* People in Creator/StanislawLem's world in ''The Futurological Congress'' could live life as they liked by taking pills which changed reality. Later the hero discovers [[spoiler: that everything he's seen has been hallucinated because the government was hiding-with more drugs-that Earth is overcrowded and freezing and everyone will die soon.]]

to:

* People in Creator/StanislawLem's world in ''The Futurological Congress'' could live life as they liked by taking pills which changed reality. Later the hero discovers [[spoiler: that everything he's seen has been hallucinated because [[spoiler:instead of changing reality, the government was hiding-with more drugs-that Earth is overcrowded pills merely change people's perception, so that they don't realize that they're living in a world ruined by overpopulation and freezing and everyone will die soon.on the verge of a new ice age.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Also, while the actual member worlds of the Federation are practically utopian the same can't always be said for the outer colonies. This is especially true of colonies that border antagonistic empires like the Cardassian Union, leading to paramilitary organizations like the Maquis.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Played surprisingly straight in Creator/MichaelMoorcock's ''Eternal Champion'' stories. The utopia is Tanelorn. Born from the dreams of humanity's desire for peace and freedom from the war between Chaos and Law, it's a city that no god or tyrant controls. Warriors who find their way there can eventually overcome their traumas and do whatever hobby or life-calling (so long as it doesn't harm others) they want. The only person that never found peace in Tanelorn was [[Literature/TheElricSaga Elric of Melnibone]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Though it is debatable just how utopian the Shire actually is. It is worth remembering that all the hobbits that are POV characters except Sam are members of wealthy and powerful families, with Pippin being the son of the Thane of the Shire, and Sam is, in spite of his youth, pretty much an OldRetainer. Also, while no-one is denying that the Shire is probably one of the nicest places in Middle-Earth to live, the hobbits are also portrayed as insular, xenophobic, reactionary, clannish, gossipy and prone to TallPoppySyndrome in the extreme. It is also quite telling that when Lotho starts tearing up the Shire, the only recourse offered is "Talk to the Bagginses and hope they sort him out" and when he starts bringing in muscle from outside there is no power that prevents him from doing so.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/CryingSuns'': Deconstructed. The Empire is a Utopia, with the EmperorScientist Oberon inventing the positronic chips and early AI that made the construction of [=OMNIs=] possible. [=OMNIs=] proceeded to take over every aspect of society, leaving humans to do nothing except fight wars and enjoy themselves. This led to cults that worshipped [=OMNIs=] as gods springing up, and the vast mass of humanity sliding into a deep existential depression at their own obsolesence that could only be treated with a debilitating and highly addictive drug. And, of course, when the [=OMNIs=] went offline, The Empire collapsed entirely within a few months.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Themyscira is an {{arcadia}} where women live peaceful lives and are free to pursue their interests at their leisure, though it being cut off from the rest of the world isn't ideal for all the Amazons most love it.

Changed: 110

Removed: 99



* Dream Land of the Franchise/{{Kirby}} series is this when not in danger, as the land is often described as a happy-go-lucky world "famous for peace and quiet".
** "It's the perfect little land... If you like that sort of thing." - ''Videogame/KirbysEpicYarn''

to:

* Dream Land of the Franchise/{{Kirby}} series is this when not in danger, as the land is often described as a happy-go-lucky world "famous for peace and quiet".
**
quiet". As is said in ''VideoGame/KirbysEpicYarn'': "It's the perfect little land... If you like that sort of thing." - ''Videogame/KirbysEpicYarn''"


* Similarly to Rayman, Dream Land of the Franchise/{{Kirby}} series is arguably this when not in danger, as the land is often described as a happy-go-lucky world "famous for peace and quiet".

to:

* Similarly to Rayman, Dream Land of the Franchise/{{Kirby}} series is arguably this when not in danger, as the land is often described as a happy-go-lucky world "famous for peace and quiet".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added possible example in video games folder

Added DiffLines:

* Similarly to Rayman, Dream Land of the Franchise/{{Kirby}} series is arguably this when not in danger, as the land is often described as a happy-go-lucky world "famous for peace and quiet".
** "It's the perfect little land... If you like that sort of thing." - ''Videogame/KirbysEpicYarn''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Coyote," Bolt recommends that Charlie, the title animal, leave their yard and head to a more ideal place to the west, such as a state wildlife preserve, national forest, or national park. The coyote does so, singing the song "Big Rock Candy Mountain" (which describes such a perfect place) as the story ends.

to:

* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Coyote," Bolt recommends that Charlie, the title animal, leave their yard and [[QuestToTheWest head to a more ideal place to the west, west]], such as a state wildlife preserve, national forest, or national park. The coyote does so, singing the song "Big Rock Candy Mountain" (which describes such a perfect place) as the story ends.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Cut trope


** The second movie, "The Beast with a Billion Backs" [[spoiler:almost ends with all of the universe living in a Utopian setting on a galaxy-sized tentacled alien that loves everyone (romantically), renders them immortal, and looks like TheThemeParkVersion of [[FluffyCloudHeaven Heaven]]. Then a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic jealous Bender and his robotic Army of the Damned invade "Heaven" and end up getting everyone exiled]], because [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop True Love is Jealous and Needy]].]]

to:

** The second movie, "The Beast with a Billion Backs" [[spoiler:almost ends with all of the universe living in a Utopian setting on a galaxy-sized tentacled alien that loves everyone (romantically), renders them immortal, and looks like TheThemeParkVersion of [[FluffyCloudHeaven Heaven]]. Then a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic jealous Bender and his robotic Army of the Damned invade "Heaven" and end up getting everyone exiled]], because [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop True Love is Jealous and Needy]].Needy.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Coyote," Bolt recommends that Charlie, the title animal, leave their yard and head to a more ideal place to the west, such as a state wildlife preserve, national forest, or national park. The coyote does so, singing the song "Big Rock Candy Mountain" (which describes such a perfect place) as the story ends.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* William Lind's ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' offers the Northern Confederation, a neo-reactionary direct democracy with a very hands-off, Articles of Confederation-style federal government that scraps all welfare payments, rolls back feminism, homosexuality, anti-racism and other social changes of the 20th century that the author considers destructive, and effectively enforces an idealized, conservative 19th-century lifestyle for its citizens, with all the good ''and'' bad that entails. While the author evidently intends to present it as an honest utopia, or at least the closest thing to one we are likely to get, he also realizes that not everyone would be happy with it, and has characters criticize it in-story. Notably, one critic from an [[PuttingOnTheReich effectively Nazi]] fantasy nation dislikes their [[CapitalismIsBad shopkeeper mentality]], while others from a LadyLand are horrified by a nation that expects women to be [[MandatoryMotherhood good Christian housewives]] and nothing much else.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** As one might guess given it's name as originally envisioned Paradise Island was a utopia, a peaceful bountiful place of learning and science where women from across time arrived as refugees [[WarRefugees fleeing war]] and other oppressions and decided to stay and build their own immortal society.

to:

** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'': As one might guess given it's name as originally envisioned Paradise Island was a utopia, a peaceful bountiful place of learning and science where women from across time arrived as refugees [[WarRefugees fleeing war]] and other oppressions and decided to stay and build their own immortal society.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good.

to:

In fact, it is so much easier to get people to agree with what is wrong with a place that most social-commentary settings fall into the {{dystopia}} category. When a brave author does attempt a Utopian setting it seems to [[AuthorFilibuster come from a need to grind a particular axe]]. Thus we get libertarian/conservative/progressive utopias, religious utopias, communal utopias, and other philosophic one-note offerings, each with its own collection of people attesting they would rather die than live there. It helps that the word itself was created to mean [[PerfectionIsImpossible such a place can't possibly exist because it's that good.
good]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'':
** As one might guess given it's name as originally envisioned Paradise Island was a utopia, a peaceful bountiful place of learning and science where women from across time arrived as refugees [[WarRefugees fleeing war]] and other oppressions and decided to stay and build their own immortal society.
** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1987'': While still an {{Arcadia}} Themyscira is a far cry from the utopia Paradise Island was, at first. Later writers reconstructed it as a utopia where WarRefugees from across the galaxy were welcomed, orphans were taken in and scholarship flourished while knowledge from across the universe was collected and stored in the libraries. This version also accepted orphans and refugees who were not female, though the Amazons themselves are of course all women.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Always Coming Home'', an anthropological record of a futuristic SolarPunk AfterTheEnd society, is another [=LeGuin=] utopia. It's rather atypical for one though: while everyone is well fed and cared for, homophobia and sexism are minimized, there seems to be no police or army, and they are InHarmonyWithNature, there's still superstition, division, occasional violence, and prejudice. The argument seems to be that while a ''perfect'' society might be impossible, there's still ways to create a significantly ''better'' society.

Added: 492

Changed: 492

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Corrected folder structure


* ''Literature/TwoThousandOneHundredFiftyAD'' (1971) is about Jon Lake, whose dreams take him 176 years into the future. Society there is mostly automated by machines and people spend their days expanding their "macro awareness". The members of this "macro society" say they have to reach Jon through his dreams, when he is most accessible. Jon begins to spend more and more of his time dreaming, escaping the world where he is a crippled war veteran studying for his doctorate in Psychology.



* ''Literature/TwoThousandOneHundredFiftyAD'' (1971) is about Jon Lake, whose dreams take him 176 years into the future. Society there is mostly automated by machines and people spend their days expanding their "macro awareness". The members of this "macro society" say they have to reach Jon through his dreams, when he is most accessible. Jon begins to spend more and more of his time dreaming, escaping the world where he is a crippled war veteran studying for his doctorate in Psychology.

to:

* ''Literature/TwoThousandOneHundredFiftyAD'' (1971) is about Jon Lake, whose dreams take him 176 years into the future. Society there is mostly automated by machines and people spend their days expanding their "macro awareness". The members of this "macro society" say they have to reach Jon through his dreams, when he is most accessible. Jon begins to spend more and more of his time dreaming, escaping the world where he is a crippled war veteran studying for his doctorate in Psychology.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
New Literature example - 2150 AD



to:

* ''Literature/TwoThousandOneHundredFiftyAD'' (1971) is about Jon Lake, whose dreams take him 176 years into the future. Society there is mostly automated by machines and people spend their days expanding their "macro awareness". The members of this "macro society" say they have to reach Jon through his dreams, when he is most accessible. Jon begins to spend more and more of his time dreaming, escaping the world where he is a crippled war veteran studying for his doctorate in Psychology.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[caption-width-right:350:''The Prologue and the Promise'' (crop), Robert [=McCall=]

to:

[[caption-width-right:350:''The Prologue and the Promise'' (crop), Robert [=McCall=]
[=McCall=]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

%%Image chosen via crowner in the Image Suggestion thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/ImagePickin/ImageSuggestions106
%%https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1452266899092104700
%%Please do not change or remove without starting a new thread.

[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pursuitpromise_1.png]]
[[caption-width-right:350:''The Prologue and the Promise'' (crop), Robert [=McCall=]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Set a trivial link.


For the eponymous book by Creator/ThomasMore, [[Literature/{{Utopia}} see here]]. If you're looking for the British drama series of the same name, [[Series/{{Utopia}} see here]], or for the Australian comedy series, [[{{Series/Utopia2014}} see here]].

to:

For the [[TropeNamer eponymous book book]] by Creator/ThomasMore, [[Literature/{{Utopia}} see here]]. If you're looking for the British drama series of the same name, [[Series/{{Utopia}} see here]], or for the Australian comedy series, [[{{Series/Utopia2014}} see here]].

Added: 277

Removed: 277

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Wrong folder


* The model in "Literature/AModelLife" is a perfect society of pre-chosen people who don't engage in violence or cruelty. James finds it utterly miserable, no matter what he tries to do. [[spoiler:This is subverted; the model isn't even real, but an elaborate therapy scheme.]]



* The model in "Literature/AModelLife" is a perfect society of pre-chosen people who don't engage in violence or cruelty. James finds it utterly miserable, no matter what he tries to do. [[spoiler:This is subverted; the model isn't even real, but an elaborate therapy scheme.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* The model in "Literature/AModelLife" is a perfect society of pre-chosen people who don't engage in violence or cruelty. James finds it utterly miserable, no matter what he tries to do. [[spoiler:This is subverted; the model isn't even real, but an elaborate therapy scheme.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''The Fifth Sacred Thing'' and its sequel ''City of Refuge'' by Starhawk both play with the trope. No one in the City goes hungry or homeless, it's environmentalist and egalitarian, crime is low, and everyone works to better the City. However, they're at the end of a climate apocalypse, the city is repeatedly struck by epidemics, and putting all their technology and effort into farming and building means they have none left for weapons when the fascist dystopia to the south comes to invade. Likewise, being shielded from violence and oppression means it's hard for them to relate to and help those who have, and they need a lot of help from Southern rebels to win the war against the fascist government.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Deconstructed in ''Manga/{{Appleseed}} where the city of Olympus only acts as one due to a large part of its population being "bioroids," artificial humans with suppressed emotions. And then if course, there's the constant policing due to various external and internal threats that try to go against Olympus' utopian vision.

to:

* Deconstructed in ''Manga/{{Appleseed}} ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'' where the city of Olympus only acts as one due to a large part of its population being "bioroids," artificial humans with suppressed emotions. And then if course, there's the constant policing due to various external and internal threats that try to go against Olympus' utopian vision. Of course, later adaptations of the series reconstruct it as well, showing how the people involved generally want to do their best to keep that vision alive.

Top