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''Just DoingItForTheArt guarantees success, but intentionally striving for success and fame gets you nowhere.''
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* Robert Asprin started work on ''Another Fine Myth'', merely to give himself a break from the grimness of another book he was writing, ''The Cold Cash War''. Nowadays, he is fondly remembered for the MythAdventures series, while ''Cold Cash War'' gathers dust alongside other proto-cyberpunk dystopian scifi.
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* Robert Asprin started work on ''Another Fine Myth'', Myth'' for laughs, merely to give himself a break from the grimness of another book he was writing, ''The Cold Cash War''. Nowadays, he is fondly remembered for the MythAdventures series, while ''Cold Cash War'' gathers dust alongside other proto-cyberpunk ur-cyberpunk dystopian scifi.
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* Robert Asprin started work on ''Another Fine Myth'', merely to give himself a break from the grimness of another book he was writing, ''The Cold Cash War''. Nowadays, he is fondly remembered for the MythAdventures series, while ''Cold Cash War'' gathers dust alongside other proto-cyberpunk dystopian scifi.
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* It has recently been revealed that ''{{Pocahontas}}'' was ''the'' project to work on at Disney in the wake of ''Beauty and the Beast'' ''[[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]'' being the very first animated film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award. [[HilariousInHindsight Animators working on it would often pick on the animators]] working on "[[TheLionKing Some dumb little musical with talking animals]]..."
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* Charles Dickens wrote enough other highly acclaimed and popular books that he only presents a borderline example, but ''AChristmasCarol'' follows the mold: he wrote it in a hurry for the money and it continues to be one of the best known and [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol most imitated]] of his works.
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* Matt Groening created ''TheSimpsons'' on the spot in about ten minutes (and the early shorts show it) because he didn't want to give up the rights to ''LifeInHell''.
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* Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle created a detective character based on an old medical professor whose techniques and insight had always impressed him in order to pay the bills. The character was never meant to be anything special, just the subject of a few stories that would bring in some money and allow Conan Doyle to work on the historical epics he loved so much and which he was sure would make his name and reputation as a writer and artist. Result? The historical epics are all but forgotten, while the [[SherlockHolmes detective character]] went on to become probably the most famous fictional character of all time.
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* Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle created a detective character based on an old medical professor whose techniques and insight had always impressed him in order to pay the bills. The character was never meant to be anything special, just the subject of a few stories that would bring in some money and allow Conan Doyle to work on the historical epics he loved so much and which he was sure would make his name and reputation as a writer and artist. Result? The historical epics are all but forgotten, while the [[SherlockHolmes detective character]] went on to become probably the most famous and easily one of the most beloved fictional character characters of all time.
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* Peyo's favourite work, and actually his original main one was ''Johan and Pewitt'' (''Johan and Pirlouit'' in its original French title)... But, one day, in one of this series' album, appeared a certain band of little blue creatures. They were intended to be one-shot characters, but quickly became [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]]... And from then, ''TheSmurfs'' (''Les Schtroumps'') became the single most remembered work of Peyo.
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* Peyo's favourite work, and actually his original main one was ''Johan and Pewitt'' (''Johan and Pirlouit'' in its original French title)... But, one day, in one of this series' album, appeared a certain band of little blue creatures. They were intended to be one-shot characters, but quickly became [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]]... And from then, ''TheSmurfs'' (''Les Schtroumps'') Schtroumpfs'') became the single most remembered work of Peyo.
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* ''Heaven's Gate'' was the passion project of ''TheDeerHunter'' director Michael Cimino. It's considered one of the biggest mistakes in film history, effectively ending Cimino's career and the auteur-driven NewHollywood movement of the 1970's.
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* ''Heaven's Gate'' ''HeavensGate'' was the passion project of ''TheDeerHunter'' director Michael Cimino. It's considered one of the biggest mistakes in film history, effectively ending Cimino's career and the auteur-driven NewHollywood movement of the 1970's.
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* ''Heaven's Gate'' was the passion project of ''TheDeerHunter'' director Michael Cimino. It's considered one of the biggest mistakes in film history, effectively ending Cimino's career and the auteur-driven NewHollywood movement of the 1970's.
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* Peyo's favourite work, and actually his original main one was ''Johan and Pewitt'' (''Johan and Pirlouit'' in its original French title)... But, one day, in one of this series' album, appeared a certain band of little blue creatures. They were intended to be one-shot characters, but quickly became [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]]... And from then, ''TheSmurfs'' (''Les Schtroumps'') became the single most remembered work of Peyo.
* Peyo's favourite work, and actually his original main one was ''Johan and Pewitt'' (''Johan and Pirlouit'' in its original French title)... But, one day, in one of this series' album, appeared a certain band of little blue creatures. They were intended to be one-shot characters, but quickly became [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]]... And from then, ''TheSmurfs'' (''Les Schtroumps'') became the single most remembered work of Peyo.
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What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''MagnumOpus''. They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be big, monumental, GenreBusting, and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the response? "Meh, it's SoOkayItsAverage."
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What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''MagnumOpus''. ''MagnumOpus''? They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be big, monumental, GenreBusting, and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the response? "Meh, it's SoOkayItsAverage."
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* So far, Quentin Tarantino's masterwork ''InglouriousBasterds'' is far from the recognition of his earlier PulpFiction.
* It has recently been revealed that ''Pocahontas'' was ''the'' project to work on at Disney in the wake of ''Beauty and the Beast'' being the very first animated film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award. [[HilariousInHindsight Animators working on it would often pick on the animators]] working on "[[TheLionKing Some dumb little musical with talking animals]]..."
* It has recently been revealed that ''Pocahontas'' was ''the'' project to work on at Disney in the wake of ''Beauty and the Beast'' being the very first animated film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award. [[HilariousInHindsight Animators working on it would often pick on the animators]] working on "[[TheLionKing Some dumb little musical with talking animals]]..."
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''PulpFiction''.
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* This is the source of Arthur Conan Doyle's grudge against his creation, SherlockHolmes -- Doyle wrote many stories he considered far superior to the tales of the detective and the doctor, but most of his audience much preferred Holmes. While many of his other stories have certainly gained and maintained recognition, it's safe to say that even in the present, Holmes is the most famous of Doyle's characters.
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* This is the source of Arthur Conan Doyle's grudge against his creation, SherlockHolmes -- Doyle wrote many stories he considered far superior to the tales of the detective and the doctor, but most of his audience much preferred Holmes. While many of his other stories have certainly gained and maintained recognition, it's safe to say that even in the present, Holmes is the most famous of Doyle's characters.
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* Lewis Carroll greatly preferred ''Sylvie and Bruno'' to his Alice books.
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* So far, Quentin Tarantino's masterwork ''InglouriousBasterds'' is far from the recognition of his earlier PulpFiction.
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PulpFiction.
* It has recently been revealed that ''Pocahontas'' was ''the'' project to work on at Disney in the wake of ''Beauty and the Beast'' being the very first animated film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award. [[HilariousInHindsight Animators working on it would often pick on the animators]] working on "[[TheLionKing Some dumb little musical with talking animals]]..."
* It has recently been revealed that ''Pocahontas'' was ''the'' project to work on at Disney in the wake of ''Beauty and the Beast'' being the very first animated film to be nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award. [[HilariousInHindsight Animators working on it would often pick on the animators]] working on "[[TheLionKing Some dumb little musical with talking animals]]..."
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* Orson Welles believed that his greatest completed film was ''Chimes At Midnight'', not ''CitizenKane''.
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* Orson WellesOrsonWelles believed that his greatest completed film was ''Chimes At Midnight'', not ''CitizenKane''.
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* GoNagai created MazingerZ as a kid-friendly side project while he worked on the (''much'' darker) {{Devilman}} manga. Guess which one became the bigger hit? (That didn't stop him from exploiting Mazinger to the hilt however.)
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* Camille Saint-Saëns correctly anticipated that his "Carneval of the animals", a musical joke thrown off for a private birthday party, might eclipse his serious symphonies, oratorios, operas, string quartets etc. (of which there are an awful lot). He went so far as to ''forbid any public performance of it whatsoever''. [[ItGotWorse It didn't work.]]
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* Tchaikovsky is said to have greatly disliked the popularity of his ''TheNutcracker'', considering it mere fluff in comparison to his serious works.
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* Camille Saint-Saëns correctly anticipated that his "Carneval of the animals", a musical joke thrown off for a private birthday party, might eclipse his serious symphonies, oratorios, operas, string quartets etc. (of which there are an awful lot). He went so far as to ''forbid any public performance of it whatsoever''. [[ItGotWorse It didn't work.]]
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* GoNagai created MazingerZ ''MazingerZ'' as a kid-friendly side project while he worked on the (''much'' darker) {{Devilman}} ''{{Devilman}}'' manga. Guess which one became the bigger hit? (That didn't stop him from exploiting Mazinger to the hilt however.)
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* Camille Saint-Saëns correctly anticipated that his "Carneval of the animals", a musical joke thrown off for a private birthday party, might eclipse his serious symphonies, oratorios, operas, string quartets etc. (of which there are an awful lot). He went so far as to ''forbid any public performance of it whatsoever''. [[ItGotWorse It didn't work.]]
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* Tchaikovsky is said to have greatly disliked the popularity of his ''TheNutcracker'', considering it mere fluff in comparison to his serious works.)
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* GoNagai created MazingerZ as a kid-friendly side project while he worked on the (''much'' darker) {{Devilman}} manga. Guess which one became the bigger hit? (That didn't stop him from exploiting Mazinger to the hilt however.)
* GoNagai created MazingerZ as a kid-friendly side project while he worked on the (''much'' darker) {{Devilman}} manga. Guess which one became the bigger hit? (That didn't stop him from exploiting Mazinger to the hilt however.)
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* Camille Saint-Saëns correctly anticipated that his "Carneval of the animals", a musical joke thrown off for a private birthday party, might eclipse his serious symphonies, oratorios, operas, string quartets etc. (of which there are an awful lot). He went so far as to ''forbid any public performance of it whatsoever''. [[ItGotWorse It didn't work.]]
* Camille Saint-Saëns correctly anticipated that his "Carneval of the animals", a musical joke thrown off for a private birthday party, might eclipse his serious symphonies, oratorios, operas, string quartets etc. (of which there are an awful lot). He went so far as to ''forbid any public performance of it whatsoever''. [[ItGotWorse It didn't work.]]
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What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''magnum opus''.''MagnumOpus''. They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be big, monumental, GenreBusting, and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the response? "Meh, it's SoOkayItsAverage."
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* So far, Quentin Tarantino's masterwork ''InglouriousBasterds'' is far from the recognition of his earlier PulpFiction.
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->"''A book for girls being wanted by a certain publisher, she hastily scribbled a little story describing a few scenes and adventures in the lives of herself and sisters - though boys were more in her line - and with very slight hopes of success sent it out to seek its fortune.''
->''Things always went by contraries with Jo. Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"
-->--Louisa May Alcott's vicarious description of her experience writing '''''LittleWomen''''', from '''''Jo's Boys'''''
->''Things always went by contraries with Jo. Her first book, labored over for years, and launched full of the high hopes and ambitious dreams of youth, floundered on its voyage, though the wreck continued to float long afterward, to the profit of the publisher at least. The hastily written story, sent away with no thought beyond the few dollars it might bring, sailed with a fair wind and a wise pilot at the helm into public favor, and came home heavily laden with an unexpected cargo of gold and glory.''"
-->--Louisa May Alcott's vicarious description of her experience writing '''''LittleWomen''''', from '''''Jo's Boys'''''
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* Orson Welles believed that his greatest completed film was ''ChimesAtMidnight'', not ''CitizenKane''.
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* MarkTwain's favorite of his works was ''PersonalRecollectionsOfJoanOfArc'' ''Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc'' -- ever heard of it?
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What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''magnum opus''. They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be big, monumental, GenreBusting, and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the
But what happens when the same artist just writes or creates something for fun or MoneyDearBoy with no big plans, hopes, or expectations for its success? Heck, they know it's not that good but figure it will at least pay the bills this month. They're so busy working on that inevitably earth-shattering ''magnum opus'', they don't even give this other silly little project much thought. Whoever commissioned it is sure to be disappointed, but it's no big deal; the public won't even notice its existence enough to laugh at its pointlessness anyway.
Cue Situational {{Irony}}! That book, movie, or painting that the creator couldn't care less about becomes an instant sensation. They're hailed as a genius, worshipped for blessing the world with this wonderful new
When the effect is somewhat delayed, see VindicatedByHistory.
SisterTrope to CreatorBacklash (often a good source thereof, too). SubTrope of MurphysLaw. Compare SelfDeprecation and SpringtimeForHitler.
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* ''{{Pocahontas}}'' vs. ''TheLionKing'', anyone?
* Orson Welles believed that his greatest completed film was ''ChimesAtMidnight'', not ''CitizenKane''.
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* ''LittleWomen'' for Louisa May Alcott; she made the same thing happen to Jo in its final sequel ''Jo's Boys''.
* JaneAusten thought ''PrideAndPrejudice'', her most popular novel, was "too light and bright and sparkling" and deliberately planned afterwards to write something more serious with a little "[[DarkerAndEdgier shade]]." The result was ''MansfieldPark'', her least popular novel.
* ''EndersGame is considered Orson Scott Card's ''magnum opus'', but it's known he only wrote it as a prologue to the much less successful ''Speaker for the Dead'' and its sequels.
* MarkTwain's favorite of his works was ''PersonalRecollectionsOfJoanOfArc'' -- ever heard of it?
* Sir ArthurConanDoyle famously hated Sherlock Holmes, and was much more proud of his historical novels.
* So far, Quentin Tarantino's masterwork ''InglouriousBasterds'' is far from the recognition of his earlier PulpFiction.
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* Tchaikovsky is said to have greatly disliked the popularity of his ''{{Nutcracker}}'', considering it mere fluff in comparison to his serious works.