History Main / KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect

* Krogan scientists in ''MassEffect''. So rare that the other races don't even think they're ''smart enough'' to have them. In the first game, Urdnot Wrex (himself a WarriorPoet who feels MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch) sarcastically asks the PlayerCharacter when the last time s/he saw a krogan scientist was. In the second game, we actually meet ''two'': Okeer, a warlord whom pretty much every other krogan speaks of with revulsion and disdain (but nevertheless succeeded in [[GattacaBabies creating]] the most {{badass}} krogan since Wrex himself) and Urdnot Fortack, whom Wrex assigns duties such as medicinal engineering and crop genetics. Fortack laments this by saying that krogan scientists are supposed to make things that explode.

* In ''{{Warhammer 40000}},'' Ork Weird Boyz are treated with suspicion by other orks for being... well... weird. Also Storm Boyz, who get tired of being told to do whatever they want all the time and so go looking for a place where they can wear uniforms, march in synch, take orders, and strap huge rockets to their backs. Then there's Burna Boyz, who like fire. [[KillItWithFire A lot.]] A lot of Boyz who aren't "orky enuff" are looked at this way by their fellow orks, but they're kept around because they're useful.

* ''{{Farscape}}'' has a few examples. Peacekeepers look down on "techs" as inferior because they spend their time fixing the ships and weapons instead of fighting with them. In on episode a planet called Litagara is featured, which is run by lawyers, the 5% of the population that isn't lawyers are treated as second class citizens.

*** Klingons don't really care what you do, as long as you treat it like a fight and find a way to use it to put the hurt on someone. Heck, DS9 features Klingon a Klingon restaurant where the owner will play the Klingon accordion to patrons.

*** Klingons don't really care what you do, as long as you treat it like a fight and find a way to use it to put the hurt on someone.

* Nords in TheElderScrollsVSkyrim who take up magic. Farengar Secret-Fire, the court mage in Whiterun and Onmund at the College of Winterhold are two who have to put up with this attitude.

* Nords in TheElderScrollsVSkyrim who take up magic. Farengar Secret-Fire and Onmund at the College of Winterhold are two who have to put up with this attitude.

* Nords in [[TheElderScrollsVSkyrim]] who take up magic. Farengar Secret-Fire and Onmund at the College of Winterhold are two who have to put up with this attitude.

* This trope raises its head several times in the StarTrekTyphonPact series. Most notably, the Talarian genders have very different social roles, and are liable to underplay the importance of the other gender's work. Given that politics and leadership is a male role, this is most notable and extreme when the male government neglects their people's feminine sphere, leading to unrest in one novella. The Gorn seem to have shades of the same problem; emphasizing the warrior component of their culture and disregarding the equally important non-military aspects. In their case, rather than a gender division it's a matter of caste; the Technologist caste appears to be looked down on by the warriors. As an interesting extension of the idea, the Political Caste seems to have such fear of the warriors' tendency to promote themselves above other Gorn that they've deliberately undercut their power by giving them only a single breeding world.

* ''Farscape'' has a few examples. Peacekeepers look down on "techs" as inferior because they spend their time fixing the ships and weapons instead of fighting with them. In on episode a planet called Litagara is featured, which is run by lawyers, the 5% of the population that isn't lawyers are treated as second class citizens.

* Nilenirans in WebOriginal/TheMovolreilenSaga extend this to any girl that doesn't complete her [[TrainingFromHell training]], even if she still becomes a warrior (These warriors that failed their training are called "Secondaries", and make up the bulk of the Nileniran military strength).

** On ''DeepSpaceNine'', another Ferengi, Rom, was horrible at business but a skilled engineer and handyman.

** Klingons themselves seem to have a case of DependingOnTheWriter in regard to this trope. DeepSpaceNine gives us a (villainous) Klingon Lawyer, who saw the court as his battlefield, and was apparently well regarded for it, as he tells Sisko when Sisko attempts to [[InvokedTrope invoke]] the trope to rile him up. Worf's grandfather, seen in ''StarTrekVI'', was himself a lawyer, and according to the ExpandedUniverse gain numerous ranks and honors through his legal acumen (He's a colonel in the film, novels mention he attained the rank of General through his legal kickassery).
** On the other hand, episodes of ''DeepSpaceNine'' also features Klingon administrative aids who are looked upon with contempt.

* In ''[[Warhammer40K Warhammer 40,000]],'' Ork Weird Boyz are treated with suspicion by other orks for being... well... weird. Also Storm Boyz, who get tired of being told to do whatever they want all the time and so go looking for a place where they can wear uniforms, march in synch, take orders, and strap huge rockets to their backs. Then there's Burna Boyz, who like fire. [[KillItWithFire A lot.]] A lot of Boyz who aren't "orky enuff" are looked at this way by their fellow orks, but they're kept around because they're useful.

* Aslan in {{Traveller}} are a subversion. Females are expected to do all the jobs besides war and politics and esoteric specialties that can be considered related to these, for war and politics are the jobs of the [[ARealManIsAKiller males]]. All the same, female Aslan get no lower status because of this arrangement.

*** [[WildMassGuessing Maybe Klingons don't really care what you do, as long as you treat it like a fight and find a way to use it to put the hurt on someone]].

--> -- '''Fortak''','' MassEffect2''

* Krogan scientists in ''MassEffect''. So rare that the other races don't even think they're ''smart enough'' to have them. In the first game, Urdnot Wrex (himself a WarriorPoet who feels MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch) sarcastically asks the PlayerCharacter when the last time s/he saw a krogan scientist was. In the second game, we actually meet ''two'': Okeer, a warlord whom pretty much every other krogan speaks of with revulsion and disdain (but nevertheless succeeded in [[GattacaBabies creating]] the most {{badass}} krogan since Wrex himself) and Urdnot Fortak, whom Wrex assigns duties such as medicinal engineering and crop genetics. Fortak laments this by saying that krogan scientists are supposed to make things that explode.

** Averted with Leck, a Ferengi assassin who's in it for the killing and combat, not the profit. Other Ferengi are too afraid of him to show any disrespect.

* Krogan scientists in ''MassEffect''. So rare that the other races don't even think they're ''smart enough'' to have them. In the first game, Urdnot Wrex (himself a WarriorPoet who feels MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch) asks the PlayerCharacter when the last time s/he saw a krogan scientist was. In the second game, we actually meet ''two'': Okeer, a warlord whom pretty much every other krogan speaks of with revulsion and disdain (but nevertheless succeeded in [[GattacaBabies creating]] the most {{badass}} krogan since Wrex himself) and Urdnot Fortak, whom Wrex assigns duties such as medicinal engineering and crop genetics. Fortak laments this by saying that krogan scientists are supposed to make things that explode.