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* [[Administrivia/TropeNamerSyndrome Naming tropes after a character or quote from their favorite work]], without realizing that people unfamiliar with the work will not understand the trope name or quote, or without realizing that ''most people on the planet'' are in fact unfamiliar with that work.

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* [[Administrivia/TropeNamerSyndrome Naming Trying to suggest new tropes that are named after a character or quote from their favorite work]], without realizing that people unfamiliar with the work will not understand the trope name or quote, or without realizing that ''most people on the planet'' are in fact unfamiliar with that work.work. Fortunately, most of these tropes nowadays will be bombed on TLP until they are renamed.



* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction. Remember, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad.

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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction. Remember, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad. When they can't find a way to shoehorn their trope into a subversion or deconstruction, they'll insist that Administrivia/TropesAreTools to reassure readers that ''this'' example isn't as bad as the others, out of paranoia that readers might be turned off from the show otherwise.
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* Assuming that the work is known worldwide. For an example, lots of {{anime}} series which are known in the United States and Japan aren't well known outside. It may be surprising for fans to hear that series like ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' aren't that well known outside a few selected countries, or even in the countries where they ''are'' available.

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* Assuming that the work is known worldwide.worldwide, or even available worldwide in the first place. For an example, lots of {{anime}} series which are known in the United States and Japan aren't well known outside. It may be surprising for fans to hear that series like ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' aren't that well known outside a few selected countries, or even in the countries where they ''are'' available.



* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works, assuming that things are one-to-one translations when this is borderline impossible to do in real life. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]], and [[{{Woolseyism}} sometimes for the better]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems with the work]], this can just as often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading official translation(s) and crying censorship when there wasn't any. A lot of fans are surprised to find the majority of a fanbase doesn't actually understand the native language - or that the work isn't even available (in its native language, or at ''all'') in all parts of the world.

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* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works, assuming that things are one-to-one translations when this is borderline impossible to do in real life. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]], and [[{{Woolseyism}} sometimes for the better]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems with the work]], this can just as often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading official translation(s) and crying censorship when there wasn't any.any ObligatorySwearing or random sex jokes. A lot of fans are surprised to find the majority of a fanbase doesn't actually understand the native language - or that the work isn't even available (in its native language, or at ''all'') in all parts of the world.

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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are some ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling, and that catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans... plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", or "{{fanfic}}" or "{{fanon}}".

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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are some ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling, and that catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans... plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", or "{{fanfic}}" or "{{fanon}}". Some might actually enjoy works for the plot, or the characters... and show appreciation by discussion or promoting it.



* Refusal to acknowledge that people might actually be fans of something for different reasons, or that different aspects are enjoyed. Sometimes with a little bit of NoTrueScotsman. For example, expressing shock that someone can somehow enjoy a series and ''not'' want the characters to marry or [[RomanticPlotTumor expressing fear that romantic subplots would make the work worse]]. It's also equally shocking to find that people can see a work and ''not'' show appreciation by creating fan works but through discussion and [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike promotion of it]].

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* Overestimating the amount of free time other fans of a series or just potential audience members have to actually go out and read/watch/play a certain work and spouting off {{Spoiler}}s to such individuals who were planning to eventually experience the work unspoiled. Yes, there are certain ItWasHisSled situations where it is impossible to go into a work without knowing major plot twists, but the myopic fan assumes that ''any'' work whose plot ''they'' know about is fair game to discuss and spoil to anyone else, no matter how recent or how little chance the other person has had to see it, possibly even telling the other person "I just spoiled something, but it's your fault for not having already seen the movie/show."

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* Overestimating the amount of free time other fans of a series or just potential audience members have to actually go out and read/watch/play a certain work and spouting off {{Spoiler}}s to such individuals who were planning to eventually experience the work unspoiled. Yes, there are certain ItWasHisSled situations where it is impossible to go into a work without knowing major plot twists, but the myopic fan assumes that ''any'' work whose plot ''they'' know about is fair game to discuss and spoil to anyone else, no matter how recent or how little chance the other person has had to see it, possibly even telling the other person "I just spoiled something, but it's your fault for not having already seen the movie/show."" When this comes to video games, this [[CasualCompetitiveConflict created its own trope]].
* Refusal to acknowledge that people might actually be fans of something for different reasons, or that different aspects are enjoyed. Sometimes with a little bit of NoTrueScotsman. For example, expressing shock that someone can somehow enjoy a series and ''not'' want the characters to marry or [[RomanticPlotTumor expressing fear that romantic subplots would make the work worse]]. It's also equally shocking to find that people can see a work and ''not'' show appreciation by creating fan works but through discussion and [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike promotion of it]].
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* [[WeirdAlEffect Failing to realize]] that a joke in their favorite comedy is actually a reference to something that was [[OlderThanTheyThink already famous]]. Usually an effect of being too young to have known the source of the reference, but definitely a kind of myopia.

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* [[WeirdAlEffect Failing to realize]] that a joke in their favorite comedy is [[ShoutOut actually a reference reference]] to something that was [[OlderThanTheyThink already famous]]. Usually an effect of being too young to have known the source of the reference, but definitely a kind of myopia.
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* [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary Using (certain) trope names in locales other than TV Tropes.]]

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* [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary Using (certain) trope names in locales other than TV Tropes.]]]][[note]]Another website, Reddit, has a similar problem with people using jargon like "subreddit" and "r/" outside of Reddit.[[/note]]
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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere (And [[ValuesDissonance for the same reasons]]), when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in its home country, so to speka) but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere (And [[ValuesDissonance for the same reasons]]), when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in (Especially its home country, so to speka) "home territory") but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.



* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works, assuming that things are one-to-one translations when this is borderline impossible to do in real life. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]], and [[{{Woolseyism}} sometimes for the better]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems with the work]], this can just as often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading official translation(s) and crying censorship when there wasn't any.

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* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works, assuming that things are one-to-one translations when this is borderline impossible to do in real life. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]], and [[{{Woolseyism}} sometimes for the better]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems with the work]], this can just as often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading official translation(s) and crying censorship when there wasn't any. A lot of fans are surprised to find the majority of a fanbase doesn't actually understand the native language - or that the work isn't even available (in its native language, or at ''all'') in all parts of the world.
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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere (And [[ValuesDissonance for the same reasons]]), when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere (And [[ValuesDissonance for the same reasons]]), when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) speka) but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.



* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems]], this can often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading the official translations and crying censorship - when there wasn't.

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* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works. works, assuming that things are one-to-one translations when this is borderline impossible to do in real life. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]]. not]], and [[{{Woolseyism}} sometimes for the better]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems]], problems with the work]], this can just as often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading the official translations translation(s) and crying censorship - when there wasn't.wasn't any.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere, when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere, everywhere (And [[ValuesDissonance for the same reasons]]), when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for whatever reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.


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* Relatedly, fans of international properties often display ignorance at how translation and localisation works. Jokes, characters, and even entire plot points have wound up changed during translation - sometimes intentionally, sometimes [[BlindIdiotTranslation not]]. While this can lead to [[DubInducedPlothole some legitimate]] [[LostInTranslation problems]], this can often lead to [[MisBlamed misinformation]] being spread across the fanbase. It's very common for fans to SpiceUpTheSubtitles, which has led to some people reading the official translations and crying censorship - when there wasn't.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere, when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] [[AmericansHateTingle (or even less)]] popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (Especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for [[{{Woolseyism}} whatever reason]] aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.

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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere, when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] [[AmericansHateTingle (or even less)]] ([[AmericansHateTingle or less]]) popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (Especially (especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for [[{{Woolseyism}} whatever reason]] reason aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.
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* Assuming that, in works with known fanbases in multiple countries and regions, that it's equally popular everywhere, when [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff some things may be more]] [[AmericansHateTingle (or even less)]] popular in different parts of the world. Thus things that appeal to certain parts of the world (Especially works produced in its home country, so to speak, especially Japan) but aren't as popular elsewhere for [[{{Woolseyism}} whatever reason]] aren't taking "The fans" into account, when they actually ''are''. Sometimes? The international fans are just a PeripheryDemographic.
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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
* Assuming that their favored work (or media, or genre, etc.) is the ultimate example of everything -- or at least, the ultimate example of everything the fan thinks is good. On this wiki, at least, this tends to lead to misguided {{Entry Pimp}}ing and forced attempts to present the show as an example of a particular [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools 'good' trope]] even if the show in question does not actually use or reflect that trope, whilst over-protectively Administrivia/{{justifying|Edit}} or even outright deleting a show's entry in [[TropesAreNotBad a 'bad' trope]] regardless of how fair or accurate the example from the show is.

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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.
Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad.
* Assuming that their favored work (or media, or genre, etc.) is the ultimate example of everything -- or at least, the ultimate example of everything the fan thinks is good. On this wiki, at least, this tends to lead to misguided {{Entry Pimp}}ing and forced attempts to present the show as an example of a particular [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools 'good' trope]] even if the show in question does not actually use or reflect that trope, whilst over-protectively Administrivia/{{justifying|Edit}} or even outright deleting a show's entry in [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools a 'bad' trope]] regardless of how fair or accurate the example from the show is.
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* Assuming that their favored work (or media, or genre, etc.) is the ultimate example of everything -- or at least, the ultimate example of everything the fan thinks is good. On this wiki, at least, this tends to lead to misguided {{Entry Pimp}}ing and forced attempts to present the show as an example of a particular [[TropesAreNotGood 'good' trope]] even if the show in question does not actually use or reflect that trope, whilst over-protectively Administrivia/{{justifying|Edit}} or even outright deleting a show's entry in [[TropesAreNotBad a 'bad' trope]] regardless of how fair or accurate the example from the show is.

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* Assuming that their favored work (or media, or genre, etc.) is the ultimate example of everything -- or at least, the ultimate example of everything the fan thinks is good. On this wiki, at least, this tends to lead to misguided {{Entry Pimp}}ing and forced attempts to present the show as an example of a particular [[TropesAreNotGood [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools 'good' trope]] even if the show in question does not actually use or reflect that trope, whilst over-protectively Administrivia/{{justifying|Edit}} or even outright deleting a show's entry in [[TropesAreNotBad a 'bad' trope]] regardless of how fair or accurate the example from the show is.
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Even when an interest is shared by a young person's entire generation, it might well be unheard of in other, older demographics and vice-versa. This, too, is a kind of fan myopia. Fan myopia also can lead to over-enthusiasm for the work and related works ("This show is the best thing ever!" "Every other medium is garbage!") and so on. This happens more easily to younger fans than older ones who have, over time, seen works come and go and who have even seen ''media'' come and go. (Anyone remember Smell-O-Vision?)

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Even when an interest is shared by a young person's entire generation, it might well be unheard of in other, older demographics and vice-versa. This, too, is a kind of fan myopia. Fan myopia also can lead to over-enthusiasm for the work and related works ("This show is the best thing ever!" "Every other medium is garbage!") and so on. This happens more easily to younger fans than older ones who have, over time, seen works come and go and who have even seen ''media'' come and go. (Anyone remember Smell-O-Vision?)
[[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision Smell-O-Vision]]?)



* Instead of writing the work's name, {{Pot Hol|e}}ing the characters/situations/quotes [[Administrivia/{{Sinkhole}} to the work's page]] out of the belief that it's so Administrivia/SelfExplanatory that ''everyone's'' seen it and knows instantly who or what is being discussed. ("[[Anime/DragonBallZ Vegeta]] does this trope...")

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* Instead of writing the work's name, {{Pot Hol|e}}ing the characters/situations/quotes [[Administrivia/{{Sinkhole}} to the work's page]] out of the belief that it's so Administrivia/SelfExplanatory that ''everyone's'' seen it and knows instantly who or what is being discussed. ("[[Anime/DragonBallZ Vegeta]] does this trope...") More justified when the work name and character name [[CharacterTitle are the same thing]], but in that case the name should be italicized (e.g., instead of "Manga/{{Akagi}} does this trope...", it should be "''Manga/{{Akagi}}'' does this trope...")



* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.

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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction. Remember, TropesAreNotBad.



* Adding an example [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample without explaining why it's an example.]]
* Neglecting to put spoiler tags on major twists in a work under the assumption that others are already familiar with those plot points.
* Using a lot of jargon in an entry that makes it impossible to understand to anyone who doesn't already know what it means -- don't assume that, for example [[VideoGame/{{Dota 2}} "Use Pudge's hook from the jungle at a top-lane carry using his ult for an epic gank"]] makes sense to everyone (or for that matter, ''anyone'').

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* Adding an example [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample without explaining why it's an example.]]
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* Neglecting to put spoiler tags on major twists in a work under the assumption that [[ItWasHisSled others are already familiar with those plot points.
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* Using a lot of jargon in an entry that makes it impossible to understand to for anyone who doesn't already know what it means -- don't assume that, for example [[VideoGame/{{Dota 2}} "Use Pudge's hook from the jungle at a top-lane carry using his ult for an epic gank"]] makes sense to everyone (or for that matter, ''anyone'').
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* Overestimating the amount of free time other fans of a series or just potential audience members have to actually go out and read/watch/play a certain work and spouting off {{Late Arrival Spoiler}}s to such individuals who were planning to eventually experience the work unspoiled. Yes, there are certain ItWasHisSled situations where it is impossible to go into a work without knowing major plot twists, but the myopic fan assumes that ''any'' work whose plot ''they'' know about is fair game to discuss and spoil to anyone else, no matter how recent or how little chance the other person has had to see it, possibly even telling the other person "I just spoiled something, but it's your fault for not having already seen the movie/show."

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* Overestimating the amount of free time other fans of a series or just potential audience members have to actually go out and read/watch/play a certain work and spouting off {{Late Arrival Spoiler}}s {{Spoiler}}s to such individuals who were planning to eventually experience the work unspoiled. Yes, there are certain ItWasHisSled situations where it is impossible to go into a work without knowing major plot twists, but the myopic fan assumes that ''any'' work whose plot ''they'' know about is fair game to discuss and spoil to anyone else, no matter how recent or how little chance the other person has had to see it, possibly even telling the other person "I just spoiled something, but it's your fault for not having already seen the movie/show."
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* {{Pot Hol|e}}ing to the characters/situations/quotes [[Administrivia/{{Sinkhole}} without identifying the work they come from]] out of the belief that it's so Administrivia/SelfExplanatory that ''everyone's'' seen it and knows instantly who or what is being discussed.

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* Instead of writing the work's name, {{Pot Hol|e}}ing to Hol|e}}ing the characters/situations/quotes [[Administrivia/{{Sinkhole}} without identifying to the work they come from]] work's page]] out of the belief that it's so Administrivia/SelfExplanatory that ''everyone's'' seen it and knows instantly who or what is being discussed. ("[[Anime/DragonBallZ Vegeta]] does this trope...")
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* * Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.

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* * Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.
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* Committing the infamous "How could this trope go so long without mentioning Show X?" WordCruft.

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* Committing the infamous "How could this trope go so long without mentioning Show X?" WordCruft.Administrivia/WordCruft.
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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope [[Administrivia/NotASubversion because they like it]].

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* * Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope [[Administrivia/NotASubversion because they like it]].when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.
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* Making demands that an actor must "give to fans" by doing cons or DVD commentaries, or demands that actors become as fannish as fans and always refer to the work as the highlight of their career. Notorious examples of actors being bashed by certain fans for not being fannish: Creator/SarahMichelleGellar by ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' fans, Creator/ChristopherEccleston by ''Series/DoctorWho'' fans, Josette Simon by ''Series/BlakesSeven'' fans.

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* Making demands that an actor must "give to fans" by doing cons conventions or DVD commentaries, or demands that actors become as fannish as fans and always refer to the work as the highlight of their career. Notorious examples of actors being bashed by certain fans for not being fannish: Creator/SarahMichelleGellar by ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' fans, Creator/ChristopherEccleston by ''Series/DoctorWho'' fans, Josette Simon by ''Series/BlakesSeven'' fans.
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* Assuming that the work is known worldwide. For an example, lots of {{Anime}} series which are known in the United States and Japan aren't well known outside. It may be surprising for fans to hear that series like ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' aren't that well known outside a few selected countries, or even in the countries where they ''are'' available.
* Relatedly, assuming that all the details of the work are widely known to the general public through PopCultureOsmosis. While even someone who has never seen anything with ''Franchise/StarWars'' in the title could probably still tell you the name of the bad guy in the black armour, there can be the tendency to assume that one's own favourite shows are equally well-known (or at least, to pretend to assume, when really we just want to feel smarter for knowing about it), and thus assuming that everybody knows who [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] is. Most visible with cult series and foreign-exported works, but you can even find this with the big super-famous franchises, when fans assume that the general public not only knows the basic gist of the work but also the minutiae; to return to our ''Star Wars'' example, a myopic fan might assume that not only does everyone know that Darth Vader is a big scary dude, but also that the bald cyborg guy who hangs out with Lando sometimes (remember that guy?) is named Lobot.

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* Assuming that the work is known worldwide. For an example, lots of {{Anime}} {{anime}} series which are known in the United States and Japan aren't well known outside. It may be surprising for fans to hear that series like ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' aren't that well known outside a few selected countries, or even in the countries where they ''are'' available.
* Relatedly, assuming that all the details of the work are widely known to the general public through PopCultureOsmosis. While OK, even someone who has never seen anything with ''Franchise/StarWars'' in the title could probably probably[[labelnote:*]](if born more recently than, say, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII)[[/labelnote]] still tell you the name of the bad guy in the black armour, but there can be the tendency to assume that one's own favourite shows are equally well-known (or at least, least to pretend to assume, when really we just want to feel smarter for knowing about it), it) and thus assuming that everybody knows who who, for instance, [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] is. Most This is most visible with cult series and foreign-exported works, but you can even find this with the big super-famous franchises, when fans assume that the general public not only knows the basic gist of the work but also the minutiae; to minutiae. To return to our ''Star Wars'' example, a myopic fan might assume that not only does everyone know that Darth Vader is a the big scary dude, dude in black is Darth Vader, but also that the bald cyborg guy who sometimes hangs out with Lando sometimes (remember that guy?) is named Lobot.



* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling and catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans. Plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", "{{fanfic}}" or "{{fanon}}".

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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many some ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling baffling, and that catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans. Plenty fans... plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", or "{{fanfic}}" or "{{fanon}}".



* With franchises that last several generations, it is inevitable that the reins of power over creation and production will be passed on to new individuals, some of whom may not have been born when the franchise began and are tasked with keeping said franchise up to date and relevant. Typically, the original creator/producer is deceased so fans take it upon themselves to decide whether or not "he" would approve of the direction the current producer is taking with "his" creation. This includes the obvious nerd fare like ''Franchise/StarTrek'', but also - and somewhat surprisingly - kids' shows like ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine''. This can also happen with comics, and even some book series see a change of author when they are popular enough.

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* With franchises that last several generations, it is inevitable that the reins of power over creation and production will be passed on to new individuals, some of whom may not have been born when the franchise began and are tasked with keeping said franchise up to date and relevant. Typically, the original creator/producer is deceased so fans take it upon themselves to decide whether or not "he" he/she would approve of the direction the current producer is taking with "his" his/her creation. This includes the obvious nerd fare like ''Franchise/StarTrek'', but also - -- and somewhat surprisingly - -- kids' shows like ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine''. This can also happen with comics, and even some book series see a change of author when they are popular enough.



* Using a lot of jargon in an entry that makes it impossible to understand to anyone who doesn't already know what it means - don't assume that, for example [[VideoGame/{{Dota 2}} "Use Pudge's hook from the jungle at a top-lane carry using his ult for an epic gank"]] makes sense to everyone (or for that matter, ''anyone'').

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* Using a lot of jargon in an entry that makes it impossible to understand to anyone who doesn't already know what it means - -- don't assume that, for example [[VideoGame/{{Dota 2}} "Use Pudge's hook from the jungle at a top-lane carry using his ult for an epic gank"]] makes sense to everyone (or for that matter, ''anyone'').
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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.

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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope when it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.[[Administrivia/NotASubversion because they like it]].
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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling and catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans, plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", or "{{fanon}}".

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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it -- indeed, that it would have been baffling and catering to the {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans, plenty fans. Plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", "{{fanfic}}" or "{{fanon}}".
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* Relatedly, assuming that all the details of the work are widely known to the general public through PopCultureOsmosis. While even someone who has never seen anything with ''Franchise/StarWars'' in the title could probably still tell you the name of the guy in the black armour, there can be the tendency to assume that one's own favourite shows are equally well-known (or at least, to pretend to assume , when really, we just want to feel smarter for knowing it), and thus assuming that everybody knows who [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] is. Most visible with cult series and foreign-exported works, but you can even find this with the big super-famous franchises, when fans assume that the general public not only knows the basic gist of the work but also the minutiae; to return to our ''Star Wars'' example, a myopic fan might assume that not only does everyone know that Darth Vader is a big scary dude, but also that the bald cyborg guy who hangs out with Lando sometimes (remember that guy?) is named Lobot.

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* Relatedly, assuming that all the details of the work are widely known to the general public through PopCultureOsmosis. While even someone who has never seen anything with ''Franchise/StarWars'' in the title could probably still tell you the name of the bad guy in the black armour, there can be the tendency to assume that one's own favourite shows are equally well-known (or at least, to pretend to assume , assume, when really, really we just want to feel smarter for knowing about it), and thus assuming that everybody knows who [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] is. Most visible with cult series and foreign-exported works, but you can even find this with the big super-famous franchises, when fans assume that the general public not only knows the basic gist of the work but also the minutiae; to return to our ''Star Wars'' example, a myopic fan might assume that not only does everyone know that Darth Vader is a big scary dude, but also that the bald cyborg guy who hangs out with Lando sometimes (remember that guy?) is named Lobot.



* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it - indeed, that it would have been baffling and catering to the shipping community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans.

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* A related phenomenon is assuming that one's own forum or subset of the community is an accurate representation of the fandom as a whole. While there are many ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans who would just love it if Harry and Draco were to have angsty sex in the shower, most readers seem to agree with the author that the story was fine without it - -- indeed, that it would have been baffling and catering to the shipping {{shipping}} community would probably alienate quite a few of the ''other'' fans.fans, plenty of whom will have no idea that there even ''is'' such a thing as "shipping", or "{{fanon}}".
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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope [[Administrivia/NotASubversion when it patently isn't]] [[Administrivia/NotADeconstruction one of either]].

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* Assuming that a show which provides a {{subversion}} or {{deconstruction}} of a particular trope is somehow automatically superior to a show which doesn't -- and, by extension, that their favourite show is a subversion / deconstruction of this trope [[Administrivia/NotASubversion when it patently isn't]] [[Administrivia/NotADeconstruction one of either]].it's Administrivia/NotASubversion and Administrivia/NotADeconstruction.
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* NotSelfExplanatory: Citing examples of characters or episodes without explaining what work they're talking about, because "surely everyone knows what I'm referring to". ("''[[VideoGame/{{Action52}} Cheetahmen II]]''. Nuff said.")

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* NotSelfExplanatory: Administrivia/NotSelfExplanatory: Citing examples of characters or episodes without explaining what work they're talking about, because "surely everyone knows what I'm referring to". ("''[[VideoGame/{{Action52}} Cheetahmen II]]''. Nuff said.")
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Removing this in the not-so-unlikely case someone thinks editing like this is good form.


** [[SelfDemonstratingArticle This - enough said]].
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\n* When a franchise has been around long enough to be remade in [[DerivativeWork several different incarnations]], or even [[TheFilmOfTheBook several forms of media]], myopic fans of one particular iteration may insist that theirs is the only ''good'' version and all the others [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks are changed, so they suck]]. Or to further enrage a BrokenBase, [[OlderThanTheyThink they may not even know about the other versions]].

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* Assuming that creators are making references or allusions to other works you are familiar with, when a coincidence is more likely. Literary characters are almost never {{Expies}} of your favorite anime protagonists, video game characters, or movie villains, no matter how much the description fits, unless they actually have a creator in common.

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