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'''Moxxie:''' SarcasmMode Great, just perfect.

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** ''WithConfidence'': When Katsuki protests being punished for his actions, Masaru ''roars'' at him to shut up, slapping the table hard enough that his own chemical sweat to leave burns behind in the wood. Mitsuki muses that while her husband is generally slow to anger, [[BewareTheQuietOnes his rage runs deep]].

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** ''WithConfidence'': ''Fanfic/WithConfidence'': When Katsuki protests being punished for his actions, Masaru ''roars'' at him to shut up, slapping the table hard enough that his own chemical sweat to leave burns behind in the wood. Mitsuki muses that while her husband is generally slow to anger, [[BewareTheQuietOnes his rage runs deep]].


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** ''Fanfic/ToughLove'' serves as a good example -- as Charlie is threatening to punish her for [[TheRunaway running away from home]] while he was attending a friend's funeral, Bella threatens to move out. He promptly calls her bluff, spelling out all the things she [[DidntThinkThisThrough failed to consider]] and refusing to let her take it back when she attempts to [[CrossingTheBurntBridge backtrack]].
* ''Fanfic/WhatIsAPersonWorth'': Albert spends much of Chapters 8 and 9 calling Rita and Lynn Sr out on being AbusiveParents who drove their son away over silly superstitions. When both express remorse, however, he also [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre encourages them]], noting that there are far ''worse'' parents out there and their willingness to admit their mistakes means there's still hope for them, provided they're willing to work on becoming better people.

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* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' fics where Bakugo's {{Barbaric Bully}}ing of Izuku [[InternalReveal becomes known to his parents]], expect them to lay into him ''thick''.

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* ''Fanfic/HighlanderPenance'': When Black Hat tells Whip and Medici that he's enjoyed working with the FBI because GoodFeelsGood, Medici counters that the ''real'' reason he's so pleased is because he likes [[ControlFreak having control of others]], even if that control happens to have positive results, and ultimately only cares about [[ItsAllAboutMe having power over people]].
* ''Fanfic/MoxxieMorningstar'' has Lucifer laying the mother of all guilt trips on his adoptive son Moxxie for having [[TheRunaway runaway from home]] and avoided any contact with them for over a decade.
-->'''Moxxie:''' ''(irritated)'' Did you bring me up here just so you could take me on a guilt-trip?\\
'''Lucifer:''' No, not entirely. But we've been mourning you for over ten years now, so don't expect me to give you a reprieve anytime soon. You brought this guilt on yourself.\\
'''Moxxie:''' SarcasmMode Great, just perfect.
* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' fics where Bakugo's Katsuki's {{Barbaric Bully}}ing of Izuku [[InternalReveal becomes known to his parents]], expect them to lay into him ''thick''.''thick''.
** In ''Fanfic/DekuInClass1B'', his parents go through a personality flip: Mitsuki goes quiet and looks haunted by the realization of what her son had become, while the normally reserved Masaru furiously reads him the riot act, making clear how disappointed he is and that Katsuki has nobody to blame for his problems other than himself. He even declares that he blames himself for ''believing better'' of his son.
** ''Fanfic/FailureToExplode'' has the Bakugous find out about how their son treated Izuku when he attempts to assault him after learning [[OffendedByAnInferiorsSuccess he got into U.A.]] while Katsuki himself [[PointOfDivergence failed to make it in]]. Katsuki digs himself deeper by protesting that [[SayingTooMuch nobody ever cared about him attacking Izuku]] ''[[SayingTooMuch before]]'', and he promptly finds himself [[YouAreGrounded grounded]] for the rest of the year.
** ''WithConfidence'': When Katsuki protests being punished for his actions, Masaru ''roars'' at him to shut up, slapping the table hard enough that his own chemical sweat to leave burns behind in the wood. Mitsuki muses that while her husband is generally slow to anger, [[BewareTheQuietOnes his rage runs deep]].


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* ''Fanfic/{{Think Before You Speak|MHA}}'': In a MomentOfWeakness, Tensei publicly blames Izuku for how his brother Tenya was injured during a training accident, unaware that Aizawa lied to him about what happened as part of a scheme to get Izuku ConvictedByPublicOpinion. After the public turns again ''Tensei'' and [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Aizawa]] instead, Tensei's mother calls him out on his thoughtlessness. Not only was he slandering a completely innocent teenager, his father has been [[MandatoryUnretirement forced out of retirement]] in order to take over the Iidaten agency, as none of Tensei's sidekicks are qualified to run the business during his probation.

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper:'' Following a one-sided sparring match with his father, Future Trunks feels confident that Vegeta and Goku can defeat Goku Black with Super Saiyan Blue, and he need not contribute. However, Vegeta refuses to let his future son stay complacent, reminding him that threats after Goku Black will follow and Future Trunks must be ready to face them himself. Additionally, Vegeta tells Trunks that if he is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saiyan]], and his son at that, he will strive to get stronger.

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper:'' ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Following a one-sided sparring match with his father, Future Trunks feels confident that Vegeta and Goku can defeat Goku Black with Super Saiyan Blue, and he need not contribute. However, Vegeta refuses to let his future son stay complacent, reminding him that threats after Goku Black will follow and Future Trunks must be ready to face them himself. Additionally, Vegeta tells Trunks that if he is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saiyan]], and his son at that, he will strive to get stronger.



* Parodied in ''Fanfic/NjalGetsBurned'', where Valgard the Grey calls Mord out on being insufficiently evil and scheming.
* ''Fanfic/TellingLiesNoMama'': Upon finding out about the ''many'' lies her daughter has been spreading, Lila's mother goes to her school and chews her out in front of her classmates and teachers.



* Parodied in ''Fanfic/NjalGetsBurned,'' where Valgard the Grey calls Mord out on being insufficiently evil and scheming.
* ''Fanfic/TellingLiesNoMama'': Upon finding out about the ''many'' lies her daughter has been spreading, Lila's mother goes to her school and chews her out in front of her classmates and teachers.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994:'' After saving him and Nala from the hyenas in the Elephant Graveyard, Mufasa expresses his disappointment in Simba for deliberately disobeying his order to never go there and putting himself and Nala in danger.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994:'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'': After saving him and Nala from the hyenas in the Elephant Graveyard, Mufasa expresses his disappointment in Simba for deliberately disobeying his order to never go there and putting himself and Nala in danger.



-->'''Annie:''' ''Don't'' you swear at me, you little shit! Don't you ''ever'' raise your voice at me! I am your mother! You understand? All I do is worry and slave and defend you, and I get back is that...''fucking'' [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment face on your face]]! So full of disdain and resentment and always so annoyed. Well, now your sister is dead! And I know you miss her...and I know it was an accident, and I know you're in pain and I wish I could take that away for you. I ''wish'' I could shield you from the knowledge that you did what you did! But your sister is dead! ''She's gone forever''! And what a waste...if it could've maybe brought us together, or something, if you could've just said "I'm sorry", or faced up to what happened. Maybe then we could do something with this. But ''you can't take responsibility for anything''! So now, ''I'' can't accept. And I ''can't'' forgive. Because...'''''BECAUSE NOBODY ADMITS ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE'''''!

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-->'''Annie:''' ''Don't'' you swear at me, you little shit! Don't you ''ever'' raise your voice at me! I am your mother! You understand? All I do is worry and slave and defend you, and I get back is that...''fucking'' [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment face on your face]]! So full of disdain and resentment and always so annoyed. Well, now your sister is dead! And I know you miss her... and I know it was an accident, and I know you're in pain and I wish I could take that away for you. I ''wish'' I could shield you from the knowledge that you did what you did! But your sister is dead! ''She's gone forever''! And what a waste... if it could've maybe brought us together, or something, if you could've just said "I'm sorry", or faced up to what happened. Maybe then we could do something with this. But ''you can't take responsibility for anything''! So now, ''I'' can't accept. And I ''can't'' forgive. Because... '''''BECAUSE NOBODY ADMITS ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE'''''!



* Early in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' the eponymous hero is caught starting a brawl with the Ice Giants, nearly paving the way for a war between Asgard and Jotunheim, and has to be bailed out by his father Odin. Normally the golden boy of the family, Thor is raked over the coals for this, but in an astonishing display of arrogance, tries CallingTheOldManOut for perceived cowardice. Odin's response is a full-blown TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that ends with Thor being stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.

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* Early in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' ''Film/{{Thor}}'', the eponymous hero is caught starting a brawl with the Ice Giants, nearly paving the way for a war between Asgard and Jotunheim, and has to be bailed out by his father Odin. Normally the golden boy of the family, Thor is raked over the coals for this, but in an astonishing display of arrogance, tries CallingTheOldManOut for perceived cowardice. Odin's response is a full-blown TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that ends with Thor being stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.



* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}:'' Zig-zagged in the climax of ''Literature/{{Mort}}''; here, Death returns to his domain to find that his apprentice Mort has spared the life of someone who should have died, resulting in a paradox that's reached reality-breaking proportions during Death's absence. Normally a BenevolentBoss, Death is ''enraged'' for the first time in the entire novel and reads Mort the riot act for his mistakes (real and perceived) in a thunderous ReasonYouSuckSpeech that concludes with '''ALL IN ALL, BOY, NOT A GOOD START TO YOUR FIRST JOB.''' However, once Death crosses the line into demanding the lives of the people Mort saved in order to square the debt with reality, Ysabell turns this moment on its head by pointing out that Death himself has bent the rules more than once, most prominently for ''her'' sake, eventually giving way to a CallingTheOldManOut moment. [[spoiler: In the end, Death concedes Ysabell's point and is able to reorder the timeline so that Mort's alteration becomes accepted history.]]

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}:'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': Zig-zagged in the climax of ''Literature/{{Mort}}''; here, Death returns to his domain to find that his apprentice Mort has spared the life of someone who should have died, resulting in a paradox that's reached reality-breaking proportions during Death's absence. Normally a BenevolentBoss, Death is ''enraged'' for the first time in the entire novel and reads Mort the riot act for his mistakes (real and perceived) in a thunderous ReasonYouSuckSpeech that concludes with '''ALL IN ALL, BOY, NOT A GOOD START TO YOUR FIRST JOB.''' However, once Death crosses the line into demanding the lives of the people Mort saved in order to square the debt with reality, Ysabell turns this moment on its head by pointing out that Death himself has bent the rules more than once, most prominently for ''her'' sake, eventually giving way to a CallingTheOldManOut moment. [[spoiler: In the end, Death concedes Ysabell's point and is able to reorder the timeline so that Mort's alteration becomes accepted history.]]



* ''Series/FeelGood'': Linda reminds her child Mae that she and Mae's dad basically have let her simply do whatever she wants with her life and have never tried to push her in any direction, so if she's not happy with where she is, it's her fault.

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* ''Series/FeelGood'': Linda reminds her child Mae that she and Mae's dad basically have let her simply do whatever she wants with her life and have never tried to push her in any direction, so if she's not happy with where she is, it's her own fault.



--> '''Zhen Huan:''' You're the emperor and you lay a hand on your own empress? Emperor, I think you've gone mad.

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--> '''Zhen -->'''Zhen Huan:''' You're the emperor and you lay a hand on your own empress? Emperor, I think you've gone mad.



* In the ''Series/TheTwilightZone2002'' SequelEpisode of "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S3E8ItsAGoodLife It's a Good Life]]," "It's Still a Good Life," Anthony Fremont's still using his RealityWarper powers [[BewareTheSuperman to get his way]], until finally his own mother, who had been tormented by her own son since he was a baby, [[TheReasonYousuckSpeech finally tells him off and concludes by saying that he has been a "very, very bad man!"]]

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* In the ''Series/TheTwilightZone2002'' SequelEpisode of "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S3E8ItsAGoodLife It's a Good Life]]," Life]]", "It's Still a Good Life," Life", Anthony Fremont's still using his RealityWarper powers [[BewareTheSuperman to get his way]], until finally his own mother, who had been tormented by her own son since he was a baby, [[TheReasonYousuckSpeech [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech finally tells him off and concludes by saying that he has been a "very, very bad man!"]]



* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington, stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington, stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, {{Downplayed|Trope}} since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.



* In ''VideoGame/Fallout3,'' James is usually a fairly easy-going parent, but he won't hesitate to deliver a WhatTheHellHero if the player character commits bad-karma actions over the course of the game -- most prominently [[MoralEventHorizon nuking Megaton]].

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* In ''VideoGame/Fallout3,'' ''VideoGame/Fallout3'', James is usually a fairly easy-going parent, but he won't hesitate to deliver a WhatTheHellHero if the player character commits bad-karma actions over the course of the game -- most prominently [[MoralEventHorizon nuking Megaton]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, [[GrewASpine she finally puts her foot down]] in "[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]", after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, [[GrewASpine she finally puts her foot down]] in "[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]", "[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]" after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.
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A SubTrope of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. Can overlap with WhatTheHellHero if the young one being called out is TheHero themselves.

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A SubTrope of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. Can overlap with WhatTheHellHero if the young one being called out is TheHero themselves.themselves or BelatedChildDiscipline if a SpoiledBrat is getting called out for their bratty behavior.
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*''Manga/{{Lady}}'': When George drops Lynn off at their house, only Lynn's grandmother greets him. She tells him that Misuzu's father doesn't want to see him because he can't stand him. She then reminds him of the conflict they had when George married Misuzu, as he viewed George as taking her away, and also believes he wasn't a good father to Lynn.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In "Old Money", Abe calls out Homer [[NotSoImaginaryFriend for not believing that Bea existed]] and making him miss [[spoiler:the final moments of her life]].
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* Throughout ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "[[Recap/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1443653684022807700 The Masks]]," the dying Jason Foster spends his final hours quietly snarking at his family, always sailing just below the line of flat-out insulting them. However, once it finally becomes clear that they're more interested in getting his inheritance instead of actually connecting with him on any level -- or even ''pretending'' to be anything other than utterly hateful people -- Jason blasts the entire group with a bitter diatribe targeting their many, many flaws: his daughter's hypochondria and selfishness, his son-in-law's greed, his granddaughter's narcissism, and his grandson's cruelty. [[spoiler:He then dies, leaving them disfigured by the enchanted masks he's had them wear.]]

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* Throughout ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "[[Recap/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1443653684022807700 "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S5E25TheMasks The Masks]]," the dying Jason Foster spends his final hours quietly snarking at his family, always sailing just below the line of flat-out insulting them. However, once it finally becomes clear that they're more interested in getting his inheritance instead of actually connecting with him on any level -- or even ''pretending'' to be anything other than utterly hateful people -- Jason blasts the entire group with a bitter diatribe targeting their many, many flaws: his daughter's hypochondria and selfishness, his son-in-law's greed, his granddaughter's narcissism, and his grandson's cruelty. [[spoiler:He then dies, leaving them disfigured by the enchanted masks he's had them wear.]]
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* Throughout ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS5E145TheMasks The Masks]]," the dying Jason Foster spends his final hours quietly snarking at his family, always sailing just below the line of flat-out insulting them. However, once it finally becomes clear that they're more interested in getting his inheritance instead of actually connecting with him on any level -- or even ''pretending'' to be anything other than utterly hateful people -- Jason blasts the entire group with a bitter diatribe targeting their many, many flaws: his daughter's hypochondria and selfishness, his son-in-law's greed, his granddaughter's narcissism, and his grandson's cruelty. [[spoiler:He then dies, leaving them disfigured by the enchanted masks he's had them wear.]]
* In the ''Series/TheTwilightZone2002'' SequelEpisode of "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS3E73ItsAGoodLife It's a Good Life]]," "It's Still a Good Life," Anthony Fremont's still using his RealityWarper powers [[BewareTheSuperman to get his way]], until finally his own mother, who had been tormented by her own son since he was a baby, [[TheReasonYousuckSpeech finally tells him off and concludes by saying that he has been a "very, very bad man!"]]

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* Throughout ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS5E145TheMasks "[[Recap/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1443653684022807700 The Masks]]," the dying Jason Foster spends his final hours quietly snarking at his family, always sailing just below the line of flat-out insulting them. However, once it finally becomes clear that they're more interested in getting his inheritance instead of actually connecting with him on any level -- or even ''pretending'' to be anything other than utterly hateful people -- Jason blasts the entire group with a bitter diatribe targeting their many, many flaws: his daughter's hypochondria and selfishness, his son-in-law's greed, his granddaughter's narcissism, and his grandson's cruelty. [[spoiler:He then dies, leaving them disfigured by the enchanted masks he's had them wear.]]
* In the ''Series/TheTwilightZone2002'' SequelEpisode of "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS3E73ItsAGoodLife "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S3E8ItsAGoodLife It's a Good Life]]," "It's Still a Good Life," Anthony Fremont's still using his RealityWarper powers [[BewareTheSuperman to get his way]], until finally his own mother, who had been tormented by her own son since he was a baby, [[TheReasonYousuckSpeech finally tells him off and concludes by saying that he has been a "very, very bad man!"]]
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* Early in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' the eponymous hero is caught starting a brawl with the Ice Giants, nearly paving the way for a war between Asgard and Jotunheim, and has to be bailed out by his father Odin. Normally the golden boy of the family, Thor is raked over the coals for this, but in an astonishing display of arrogance, tries CallingTheOldManOut for perceived cowardice. Odin's response is a full-blown ReasonYouSuckSpeech that ends with Thor being stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.

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* Early in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' the eponymous hero is caught starting a brawl with the Ice Giants, nearly paving the way for a war between Asgard and Jotunheim, and has to be bailed out by his father Odin. Normally the golden boy of the family, Thor is raked over the coals for this, but in an astonishing display of arrogance, tries CallingTheOldManOut for perceived cowardice. Odin's response is a full-blown ReasonYouSuckSpeech TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that ends with Thor being stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.
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* Throughout the present-day segments of ''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse,'' Hugh Crain has been constantly on the defensive whenever his eldest son lashes out, being usually too crushed by his past failings to retaliate against [[ObsessivelyNormal Steve's]] [[TheScully constant scepticism]]; plus, he's more interested in protecting his adult children from the AwfulTruth than winning any kind of debate. However, in the episode "Witness Marks," Hugh finally shuts down Steve's endless dismissals by providing incontrovertible proof that [[EldritchLocation Hill House]] is a very real threat to the family -- and refuses to let Steve interrupt him this time. [[spoiler:For good measure, he provides incontrovertible proof that Steve has unknowingly encountered the supernatural before, meaning that the supposedly sane, rational member of the family has been wrong about everything.]] For once, the professional debunker has nothing to say.

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* Throughout the present-day segments of ''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse,'' ''Series/TheHauntingOfHillHouse2018'', Hugh Crain has been constantly on the defensive whenever his eldest son lashes out, being usually too crushed by his past failings to retaliate against [[ObsessivelyNormal Steve's]] [[TheScully constant scepticism]]; plus, he's more interested in protecting his adult children from the AwfulTruth than winning any kind of debate. However, in the episode "Witness Marks," Hugh finally shuts down Steve's endless dismissals by providing incontrovertible proof that [[EldritchLocation Hill House]] is a very real threat to the family -- and refuses to let Steve interrupt him this time. [[spoiler:For good measure, he provides incontrovertible proof that Steve has unknowingly encountered the supernatural before, meaning that the supposedly sane, rational member of the family has been wrong about everything.]] For once, the professional debunker has nothing to say.
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* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' fics where Bakugo's {{Barbaric Bully}}ing of Izuku becomes known to his parents, they will lay into him ''thick''.

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* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' fics where Bakugo's {{Barbaric Bully}}ing of Izuku [[InternalReveal becomes known to his parents, they will parents]], expect them to lay into him ''thick''.



* Bail and Breha Organa in ''Literature/LeiaPrincessOfAlderaan'' have a good kid overall, but at sixteen her naivete, willfulness, and temper, as she goes from being a precocious child to a young adult capable of and expected to make decisions with serious effects on other people, cause them some trouble, especially since they're secretly in LaResistance. They scold her at various points for such things as trying some LoopholeAbuse to help refugees without considering broader context like what that would do to larger scale attempts to help them, for approaching a Rebel outpost [[JumpedAtTheCall offering her help]] without considering that they might be alarmed and shoot her, and a lot more. Bail is particularly [[AngerBornOfWorry angry and afraid]] for her and sometimes becomes harsh, especially as she retreads the same moral dilemmas ''he'' only just painfully worked his way through. Leia can accept some of these as fair and internalize them but also fires back, herself, that if they didn't keep her in the dark about their activities, she wouldn't end up stepping on them!

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* Bail and Breha Organa in ''Literature/LeiaPrincessOfAlderaan'' have a good kid overall, overall but at sixteen sixteen, her naivete, willfulness, and temper, as she goes from being a precocious child to a young adult capable of and expected to make decisions with serious effects on other people, cause them some trouble, especially since they're secretly in LaResistance. They scold her at various points for such things as trying some LoopholeAbuse to help refugees without considering broader context like what that would do to larger scale attempts to help them, for approaching a Rebel outpost [[JumpedAtTheCall offering her help]] without considering that they might be alarmed and shoot her, and a lot more. Bail is particularly [[AngerBornOfWorry angry and afraid]] for her and sometimes becomes harsh, especially as she retreads the same moral dilemmas ''he'' only just painfully worked his way through. Leia can accept some of these as fair and internalize them but also fires back, herself, that if they didn't keep her in the dark about their activities, she wouldn't end up stepping on them!






* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, [[GrewASpine she finally puts her foot down down]] in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', Ed returns to his hometown to find his long-absent father, Hohenheim. While Ed is rather bitter about Hohenheim abandoning them, Hohenheim instead lays into Ed for attempting human transmutation and burning down his house in an attempt to remove the evidence of what they'd done.

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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', Ed returns to his hometown to find his long-absent father, father Hohenheim. While Ed is rather bitter about Hohenheim abandoning them, Hohenheim instead lays into Ed for attempting human transmutation and burning down his house in an attempt to remove the evidence of what they'd done.



* Within the ''[[Literature/TheTwilightSaga Twilight]]'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house ([[{{Unishment}} which isn’t much of a punishment because she could just live with the Cullens]], but still). Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.

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* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' fics where Bakugo's {{Barbaric Bully}}ing of Izuku becomes known to his parents, they will lay into him ''thick''.
* Within the ''[[Literature/TheTwilightSaga Twilight]]'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics spite fics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house ([[{{Unishment}} which isn’t much of a punishment because she could just live with the Cullens]], but still). Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.



* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}:'' Zig-zagged in the climax of ''Literature/{{Mort}}''; here, Death returns to his domain to find that his apprentice Mort has spared the life of someone that should have died, resulting in a paradox that's reached reality-breaking proportions during Death's absence. Normally a BenevolentBoss, Death is ''enraged'' for the first time in the entire novel and reads Mort the riot act for his mistakes (real and perceived) in a thunderous ReasonYouSuckSpeech that concludes with '''ALL IN ALL, BOY, NOT A GOOD START TO YOUR FIRST JOB.''' However, once Death crosses the line into demanding the lives of the people Mort saved in order to square the debt with reality, Ysabell turns this moment on its head by pointing out that Death himself has bent the rules more than once, most prominently for ''her'' sake, eventually giving way to a CallingTheOldManOut moment. [[spoiler: In the end, Death concedes Ysabell's point and is able to reorder the timeline so that Mort's alteration becomes accepted history.]]

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}:'' Zig-zagged in the climax of ''Literature/{{Mort}}''; here, Death returns to his domain to find that his apprentice Mort has spared the life of someone that who should have died, resulting in a paradox that's reached reality-breaking proportions during Death's absence. Normally a BenevolentBoss, Death is ''enraged'' for the first time in the entire novel and reads Mort the riot act for his mistakes (real and perceived) in a thunderous ReasonYouSuckSpeech that concludes with '''ALL IN ALL, BOY, NOT A GOOD START TO YOUR FIRST JOB.''' However, once Death crosses the line into demanding the lives of the people Mort saved in order to square the debt with reality, Ysabell turns this moment on its head by pointing out that Death himself has bent the rules more than once, most prominently for ''her'' sake, eventually giving way to a CallingTheOldManOut moment. [[spoiler: In the end, Death concedes Ysabell's point and is able to reorder the timeline so that Mort's alteration becomes accepted history.]]



* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr Bashir I Presume]]" provides a back-to-back example of CallingTheOldManOut and CallingTheYoungManOut: after being accidentally outed as a genetically-engineered superhuman, Julian Bashir is fully prepared to [[ResignedInDisgrace resign from Starfleet]], resulting in yet another argument with his father -- this time over the decision to have Julian genetically altered in the first place. At first, Julian has the high ground in this argument, given Richard Bashir's habit of vicariously living through his son and refusing to apologize for his own shortcomings. However, when Julian bitterly accuses his parents of having him altered out of shame for his apparent mental deficiency, his normally-placid mother finally shocks "Jules" into silence by pointing out that he's never understood their motivations, nor has he ever tried to: they weren't ashamed, but guilty -- blaming ''themselves'' for his childhood difficulties. The revelation ''instantly'' defuses the argument.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr Bashir I Presume]]" provides a back-to-back example of CallingTheOldManOut and CallingTheYoungManOut: after being accidentally outed as a genetically-engineered superhuman, Julian Bashir is fully prepared to [[ResignedInDisgrace resign from Starfleet]], resulting in yet another argument with his father -- this time over the decision to have Julian genetically altered in the first place. At first, Julian has the high ground in this argument, given Richard Bashir's habit of vicariously living through his son and refusing to apologize for his own shortcomings. However, when Julian bitterly accuses his parents of having him altered out of shame for his apparent mental deficiency, his normally-placid normally placid mother finally shocks "Jules" into silence by pointing out that he's never understood their motivations, nor has he ever tried to: they weren't ashamed, but guilty -- blaming ''themselves'' for his childhood difficulties. The revelation ''instantly'' defuses the argument.



** Dr Tenembaum, as a MotherlyScientist, commonly acts as a surrogate parent to the Little Sisters and a mentor to Jack, even calling him "child". As such, she offers compliments if Jack spares the Little Sisters and disparages him for harvesting them; in the Evil Ending, she concludes the game with a bitter, despairing rant on how the player character's greed and cruelty has unleashed the horrors of Rapture on an unsuspecting world.

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** Dr Tenembaum, as a MotherlyScientist, commonly acts as a surrogate parent to the Little Sisters and a mentor to Jack, even calling him "child". As such, she offers compliments if Jack spares the Little Sisters and disparages him for harvesting them; in the Evil Ending, she concludes the game with a bitter, despairing rant on how the player character's greed and cruelty has have unleashed the horrors of Rapture on an unsuspecting world.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing:'' After saving him and Nala from the hyenas in the Elephant Graveyard, Mufasa expresses his disappointment in Simba for deliberately disobeying his order to never go there and putting himself and Nala in danger.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing:'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994:'' After saving him and Nala from the hyenas in the Elephant Graveyard, Mufasa expresses his disappointment in Simba for deliberately disobeying his order to never go there and putting himself and Nala in danger.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving in to his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* ''Fanfic/TellingLiesNoMama'': Upon finding out about the ''many'' lies her daughter has been spreading, Lila's mother goes to her school and chews her out in front of her classmates and teachers.



* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', this is subverted. Instead of Ming chewing Mei out for sneaking out, lying and hustling her panda form, she blames Mei's friends for influencing Mei to do those things.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', this is subverted. Instead of Ming chewing Mei out for sneaking out, lying lying, and hustling her panda form, she blames Mei's friends for influencing Mei to do those things.



* ''Film/HowFunnyThisCountryIs'': After [[spoiler:Muluk, Pipit and Samsul ends their help to the pickpocketing kids out of guilt that they are being paid with stolen money]], the kids decide to go back to their pickpocketing way. Their boss (and the closest thing they have to a father) Jarot goes on a rant calling out the kids for not wanting to be anything more than pickpockets, even after Muluk tries to give them the way, and how uneducated pickpockets like them has no future besides dying in squalor.
* ''Film/TheKissingBooth3'': When Elle insults her dad's new girlfriend Linda in front of everyone over a Monopoly game and says she'll never be part of their family, Elle's father confronts her about her attitude. Elle calls her father "selfish" for dating again after her mother died, prompting Mr Evans to point out although he was also devastated by Elle's mother dying he had to stay strong to look after her and her brother, that he hasn't dated anyone else until now for his kids' sake, and that Elle isn't the only one who deserves love and happiness. It doesn't help that Linda is far from being a WickedStepmother and no one else has a problem with her. Elle later [[JerkassRealization realizes]] that her dad made some good points and apologizes to Linda.

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* ''Film/HowFunnyThisCountryIs'': After [[spoiler:Muluk, Pipit Pipit, and Samsul ends their help to the pickpocketing kids out of guilt that they are being paid with stolen money]], the kids decide to go back to their pickpocketing way. Their boss (and the closest thing they have to a father) Jarot goes on a rant calling out the kids for not wanting to be anything more than pickpockets, even after Muluk tries to give them the way, and how uneducated pickpockets like them has no future besides dying in squalor.
* ''Film/TheKissingBooth3'': When Elle insults her dad's new girlfriend Linda in front of everyone over a Monopoly game and says she'll never be part of their family, Elle's father confronts her about her attitude. Elle calls her father "selfish" for dating again after her mother died, prompting Mr Evans to point out that although he was also devastated by Elle's mother dying dying, he had to stay strong to look after her and her brother, that he hasn't dated anyone else until now for his kids' sake, and that Elle isn't the only one who deserves love and happiness. It doesn't help that Linda is far from being a WickedStepmother and no one else has a problem with her. Elle later [[JerkassRealization realizes]] that her dad made some good points and apologizes to Linda.



* Early in ''Literature/WorldWarZ,'' Saladin Kader recounts that when Israel began offering asylum to Palestinian refugees, he was 17 and already radicalized -- and didn't believe that an imminent ZombieApocalypse was prompting this offer. Though his father attempted to accept this, young Saladin refused, instead boasting that he would instead join a fundamentalist terrorist group, mocking his father for his timidity, even referring to the poor man as "a whore of the yehud". Unknown to him, his normally-sedate father had actually seen the zombies during his work at the local hospital and for once was ''not'' in the mood for Saladin's attitude: slapping the crap out of his son, he made it clear in no uncertain fashion that they were ''all'' going to Jerusalem. As he laughingly recounts, Saladin was left too scared to be his usual brash self, and meekly joined his father in accepting the offer of asylum.

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* Early in ''Literature/WorldWarZ,'' Saladin Kader recounts that when Israel began offering asylum to Palestinian refugees, he was 17 and already radicalized -- and didn't believe that an imminent ZombieApocalypse was prompting this offer. Though his father attempted to accept this, young Saladin refused, instead boasting that he would instead join a fundamentalist terrorist group, mocking his father for his timidity, even referring to the poor man as "a whore of the yehud". Unknown to him, his normally-sedate father had actually seen the zombies during his work at the local hospital and for once was ''not'' in the mood for Saladin's attitude: slapping the crap out of his son, he made it clear in no uncertain fashion that they were ''all'' going to Jerusalem. As he laughingly recounts, Saladin was left too scared to be his usual brash self, self and meekly joined his father in accepting the offer of asylum.



* ''Theatre/InTheHeights'': In "Enough", Camilla spends the second half of the song calling out her daughter Nina for not coming home during the city-wide blackout, as well as hiding for months that she had dropped out of Stanford after losing her scholarship, because they would have helped her more had they known.

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* ''Theatre/InTheHeights'': In "Enough", Camilla spends the second half of the song calling out her daughter Nina for not coming home during the city-wide blackout, as well as hiding for months that she had dropped out of Stanford after losing her scholarship, scholarship because they would have helped her more had they known.



** After Ryoma learns that his son Shiro has left his Deeprealm and got himself into a battle with bandits, Ryoma chews Shiro out for his reckless and irresponsible behavior as son of the high prince(and acting king) of Hoshido. Shiro, however, fires back that Ryoma [[ParentalNeglect never raised him at all]], nor did Ryoma tell him about his royal heritage.

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** After Ryoma learns that his son Shiro has left his Deeprealm and got himself into a battle with bandits, Ryoma chews Shiro out for his reckless and irresponsible behavior as the son of the high prince(and prince (and acting king) of Hoshido. Shiro, however, fires back that Ryoma [[ParentalNeglect never raised him at all]], nor did Ryoma tell him about his royal heritage.



* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into in to his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper:'' Following a one-sided sparring match with his father, Future Trunks feels confident that Vegeta and Goku can defeat Goku Black with Super Saiyan Blue, and he need not contribute. However, Vegeta refuses to let his future son stay complacent, reminding him that threats after Goku Black will follow and Future Trunks must be ready to face them himself. Additionally, Vegeta tells Trunks that if he is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saiyan]], and his son at that, he will strive to get stronger.
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* Bail and Breha Organa in ''Literature/LeiaPrincessOfAlderaan'' have a good kid overall, but at sixteen her naivete, willfulness, and temper, as she goes from being a precocious child to a young adult capable of and expected to make decisions with serious effects on other people, cause them some trouble, especially since they're secretly in LaResistance. They scold her at various points for such things as trying some LoopholeAbuse to help refugees without considering broader context like what that would do to larger scale attempts to help them, for going up to a Rebel outpost planning to help without considering that they might be alarmed and shoot her, and a lot more. Bail is particularly [[AngerBornOfWorry angry and afraid]] for her and sometimes becomes harsh, especially as she retreads the same moral dilemmas ''he'' only just painfully worked his way through. Leia can accept some of these as fair and internalize them but also fires back, herself, that if they didn't keep her in the dark about their activities she wouldn't end up stepping on them!

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* Bail and Breha Organa in ''Literature/LeiaPrincessOfAlderaan'' have a good kid overall, but at sixteen her naivete, willfulness, and temper, as she goes from being a precocious child to a young adult capable of and expected to make decisions with serious effects on other people, cause them some trouble, especially since they're secretly in LaResistance. They scold her at various points for such things as trying some LoopholeAbuse to help refugees without considering broader context like what that would do to larger scale attempts to help them, for going up to approaching a Rebel outpost planning to help [[JumpedAtTheCall offering her help]] without considering that they might be alarmed and shoot her, and a lot more. Bail is particularly [[AngerBornOfWorry angry and afraid]] for her and sometimes becomes harsh, especially as she retreads the same moral dilemmas ''he'' only just painfully worked his way through. Leia can accept some of these as fair and internalize them but also fires back, herself, that if they didn't keep her in the dark about their activities activities, she wouldn't end up stepping on them!
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A SubTrope of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.

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A SubTrope of TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. Can overlap with WhatTheHellHero if the young one being called out is TheHero themselves.

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