History Main / AlternateHistoryWank

** Ming-3 is merely one example of this trope in the ''GURPS Infinite Worlds'' setting, which is loaded with such examples. One other notable example is the self-explanatory [[StupidJetpackHitler "Reich-5"]].

** This is very much a YourMileageMayVary. Yes, the democratic nations are stupid in the Draka timeline; but they're stupid in generally historically accurate ways ('appeasement' pre-WWII, and all that). The Draka were just far better at playing to those flaws than the Axis powers were.

[[folder: Manga & Anime]]
* ''CodeGeass'' is a weird case. Britannia rules half the world, but not the British Isles. Japan, despite being a Britannian colony, seems to have been the last non-superpower country and its independence is treated as central to world politics.
*** You forget Australia.
**** The [[MiddleEasternCoalition Middle Eastern Federation]] was also independent until Britannia conquered it as "Area 18" early in Season 1, roughly seven years after Japan was conquered.
** Mind, ''CodeGeass'' justifies this by Japan's large deposits of [[MineralMacGuffin Sakuradite]].
** It's explained that one of the founding fathers of America betrayed the American Rebellion when he was offered land and a title. Napoleon ends off conquering Europe, and the Royal Family just manages to get away to the American territories.
*** Or likely the founding father in question (Ben Franklin) is rather Geassed by a Britannian member of the Royal Family who had geass powers.
**** C.C. actually hints in the side materials that she was on a first-name basis with most of the Founding Fathers... maybe she bet on the wrong horse that time?

[[folder:NewspaperComics]]
* In the ''BuckRogers'' comic strips, Mongolia conquers most of the world in TheFuture.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:TabletopGames]]

[[folder:MultipleMedia]]
* This treatment is really popular for famous empires, though "bad guy" empires tend to be the most popular for wank status. For every "Rome never falls" timeline there seem to be at least three "USSR and/or Nazi Germany takes over the world."
* Averted in the timeline FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo, where the alternate candidate getting in leads to a deadlocked presidential election. The setup is an alternate Democrat facing Nixon in the 1972 presidential election, but it takes some...surprising twists and turns.

[[/folder]]

* '''The Roman Empire''' again again [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment again]]. In the ''Romanitas'' series of books by Sarah McDougall, the survival of Emperor Pertinax leads to Rome controlling Europe, India, South America, half of Africa and most of North America. Japan controls the whole of Oceania, South East Asia, and parts of Siberia. China is reduced to a buffer state between the two. There's also an independent Africa that rebelled from Roman control.

** To be fair, we don't really know the extent of the changes caused by their time travel. It might very well be that the elements from CronoCross gave an unfair advantage over natural magic from ChronoTrigger, especially when trained in use by Dalton. If they had elements at all. We also don't know the order some of the events happen, so Lucca's death could very well have happened prior to the war ever starting, and Crono & Marle(and maybe Lucca) would not likely have the capabilities to stand up to a total army, especially if they had superior training in their abilities.

** The novel actually tends to subvert this; the Germans carve out a large part of Eastern Europe and include it into German territory, while Western Europe is left relatively autonomous (albeit run by governments sympathetic to Germany, as in the RealLife Warsaw Pact]]) -- which is largely what the Germans actually intended to do initially. Furthermore, it's clearly established that propaganda aside, the 'living space' in the East is essentially a barely functioning hellhole beset by guerrilla terrorists and Greater Germany itself is gradually stagnating culturally, technologically and politically.

* The Video Game "Darkest Of Days" is one massive, SoBadItsHorrible wank for the stereotypical American war re-enactor. You play a war hero who went missing during LittleBigHorn, only to be whisked away by time travelers and fight in some of the most famous wars in American history. You even get a heavily-accented good 'ol boy sidekick who likes fried chicken. [[spoiler: This all ends with a creepy {{Conspiracy Theory}} about evil {{Qurac}}i terrorists using some technology you saved to wipe out every person of "European" decent in the United States. {{Paranoia Fuel}} and {{Unfortunate Implications}} about the War-Reenactment community abound.]]

*** For the curious, Reich 1 has the US and Germany fighting a pre-nuke WorldWarIII in 1951. Reich-2 has [[LoveDodecahedron a five-way rivalry between the US, Germany, Japan, Russia and Britain]], Reich-3 has the Axis preparing to wipe a besieged "Fortress America" off the map, and Reich-4 has the victorious Nazis trying to maintain order [[AfterTheEnd after they beat the US in the 1950s and won a Pyrrhic nuclear war with Japan in 1979]].

** Ming-3 is merely one example of this trope in the ''GURPS Infinite Worlds'' setting, which is loaded with such examples. One other notable example is the self-explanatory "Reich-5".

* '''The Roman Empire''' ''yet'' again. In Roma Eterna, the failure of the Jewish Exodus from Egypt, as well as a convenient victory over some barbarians, lead to a world where Rome remained divided and never fell. The America's were fortified by a Dane, which prevented Rome from capturing them.

** So, she invented ''{Warhammer}}'''s [[LizardFolk Lizardmen?]]

[[caption-width:353:[[TheEmpire The orange part is all the Domination of the Draka.]] [[TheAlliance The blue part is the Alliance for Democracy.]]

[[caption-width:353:[[MoreDakka The orange part is all the Domination of the Draka.]]]]

[[caption-width:353:[[MoreDakka The orange part is all Draka Dominion.]]]]

** This is very much a [[Your Mileage May Vary]]. Yes, the democratic nations are stupid in the Draka timeline; but they're stupid in generally historically accurate ways ('appeasement' pre-WWII, and all that). The Draka were just far better at playing to those flaws than the Axis powers were.

** So, she invented ''{Warhammer}}'''s [[LizardFolk Lizardmen?

* '''The Roman Empire''' again: in Kirk Mitchell's ''Germanicus'' trilogy (''Procurator; The New Barbarians; Cry Republic''). The division point is in the distant past compared to the time of the books, and is the trial of Jesus before Pontius Pilate -- Pilate frees him instead of turning him over to the Jewish leaders. Jesus was not crucified, Christianity never rose, the Roman Empire never fell. It holds most of Western Europe and has provinces in North America and Africa. The Serican Empire (Chinese) hold much of Asia, and are making inroads into the Americas; The Aztecae control South America and southwest North America.

** This subsequently applies to other Paradox Entertainment grand strategy games such as HeartsOfIron or VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun. It really depends on the player's ultimate aims and skill, however.
* Similar to the Paradox grand strategy examples, ''RiseOfNations''' Risk-esque "Conquer The World Campaign" often results in this trope.

* Canada in ''CSAConfederateStatesOfAmerica''. In this alternate history, that nation refused to hand over its escaped American slaves because it was the right thing to do and suffered with a walled US/Canadian border called the Cotton Wall. Furthermore, for this national choice, Canada reaps the great prize of all the artists of African that would have enriched American culture like Rock music, Motown and many others now fed Canadian culture. As a result, Canada becomes the pop culture centre of the world. The CSA itself is the same way, it's built on such a silly amount of historical fallacies that its nearly impossible to take seriously. Though it makes rather silly RuleofCool assumptions such as having Lincoln attempt to escape the CSA's forces by the Underground Railroad, it pales in comparison to having the CSA annex the entire North, along with large parts of South America to form a "tropical empire", and then there's the whole thing about a slaveowning society surviving into the modern day without collapsing into a thirld world country. Despite the CSA being isolated from the rest of the world and culturally stagnant, it's economy still runs fairly well.

** The novel actually tends to subvert this; the Germans carve out a large part of Eastern Europe and include it into German territory, while Western Europe is left relatively autonomous (albeit run by governments sympathetic to Germany, as in the RealLife Warsaw Pact]]) -- which is largely what the Germans actually intended to do initially. Furthermore, it's clearly established that propaganda aside, the 'living space' in the East is essentially a barely functioning hellhole beset by guerilla terrorists and Greater Germany itself is gradually stagnating culturally, technologically and politically.

* '''The Domination of Draka (South Africa)''' in S. M. Sterling's series on TheDraka. The premise is that a colony in OTL's South Africa gains independence from Britain around when the United States of America did in our timeline, upholds horrific ideals within its borders (including slavery), and manages to take over the world by the end of the series (Yes, sadly the image chosen for this very page was ''just the beginning'' of the wankitude). This is handled in such a way that it made the [[Wallbangers/{{Literature}} Wallbanger page for literature]] -- the civilized nations of the world just ignore the threat of a large, slaveholding, militaristic empire until it's too late. Let's just say that one FixFic that was intended to make {{the Draka}} less of a {{Villain Sue}}[[MarySuetopia topia]] ''still'' started in the mid-20th century with [[AnthropicPrinciple them having almost all of Africa and a good chunk of the Middle East...]]

* The Video Game "Darkest Of Days" is one massive, SoBadItsHorrible wank for the stereotypical American war re-enacotr. You play a war hero who went missing during LittleBigHorn, only to be whisked away by time travelers and fight in some of the most famous wars in American history. You even get a heavily-accented good 'ol boy sidekick who likes fried chicken. [[spoiler: This all ends with a creepy {{Conspiracy Theory}} about evil {{Qurac}}i terrorists using some technology you saved to wipe out every person of "European" decent in the United States. {{Paranoia Fuel}} and {{Unfortunate Implications}} about the War-Reenactment community abound.]]