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* BreakTheCutie: Jaina, as well as Kinndy, who gets a harsh look at what war is like.
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* SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic: Kalecgos uses an arcane ball with a distinct recurring pattern to show Jaina Proudmoore what magic is made of. The realization stuns her.
-->'''Jaina''': Its...math!
-->'''Jaina''': Its...math!
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* AdaptationExpansion: "Theramore's Fall" is a scenario in WorldOfWarcraft mainly focuses on the Horde rescuing [[spoiler:Thalen Songweaver]] and the Alliance helping Jaina as she retrieves the Focusing Iris. This focuses on the battle, and its personal impacts on Jaina.
* AlmostDeadGuy: Two messengers at separate points. Lampshadedonceonce.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: "Do you really want to be remembered as another Garrosh? Another Arthas?" After that Jaina snaps out of her racism and rage, mellows out, and while still hostile to the horde, realizes that they aren't all monsters, is not going to kill civillians, and may be willing to mend the fence with Thrall when Garrosh is gone.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: "Do you really want to be remembered as another Garrosh? Another Arthas?" Arthas[[hottip:note:Jaina refused to cooperate in his culling of Stratholme, which, given the plague of undeath, was arguably more justifiable than what she was planning on doing]]?" After that Jaina snaps out of her racism and rage, mellows out, and while still hostile to the horde, realizes that they aren't all monsters, is not going to kill civillians, and may be willing to mend the fence with Thrall when Garrosh is gone.gone.
* AscendedExtra: Windle Sparkshine, Kinnidy's father is a minor NPC in Dalaran who doesn't offer any essential services.
* AscendedExtra: Windle Sparkshine, Kinnidy's father is a minor NPC in Dalaran who doesn't offer any essential services.
* BearerOfBadNews: Jaina to [[spoiler:Vereesa]].
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* BitterSweetEnding: Jaina is able to snap out of her tempary racism, realize that no no, her father was still a monster who deserved his fate, and finally is able to avoid crossing the Moral Event Horizon. But theramore Theramore is still destroyed, war is on the horizon, and her friendship with thrall Thrall is pretty much shot
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* EveryoneHasStandards:
**Varian, despite being one of the more belligerent and warlike Alliance leaders, is disturbed by how far [[spoiler:Jaina Proudmoore]] plans to go after [[spoiler:the destruction of Theramore]].
**On the opposite side of the coin, Anduin, despite being a pacifist, thinks Garrosh has gone too far.
* FantasticRacism: Garrosh; Jaina temporarily becomes one, but after Thrall and Kalec force her to face that she's becoming asmonsterous monstrous as Arthas (as well as when the residue from the mana bomb wears off) she snaps out of it and while still hostile to the horde, isn't going to murder civillians civilians or view them all as bloodthirsty monsters.monsters.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Vol'jin approaches Baine after the meeting with Garrosh and tells him that it was unwise to raise Garrosh's ire, and that he is cautious because of how close the trolls are to Orgrimmar. In WorldOfWarcraft, [[spoiler:Vol'jin is almost killed in the Dagger in the Dark scenario after he objects to Garrosh planning on making saurok minions, he goes into hiding after faking his death, and Garrosh has the Echo Isles occupied]].
**Varian, despite being one of the more belligerent and warlike Alliance leaders, is disturbed by how far [[spoiler:Jaina Proudmoore]] plans to go after [[spoiler:the destruction of Theramore]].
**On the opposite side of the coin, Anduin, despite being a pacifist, thinks Garrosh has gone too far.
* FantasticRacism: Garrosh; Jaina temporarily becomes one, but after Thrall and Kalec force her to face that she's becoming as
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Vol'jin approaches Baine after the meeting with Garrosh and tells him that it was unwise to raise Garrosh's ire, and that he is cautious because of how close the trolls are to Orgrimmar. In WorldOfWarcraft, [[spoiler:Vol'jin is almost killed in the Dagger in the Dark scenario after he objects to Garrosh planning on making saurok minions, he goes into hiding after faking his death, and Garrosh has the Echo Isles occupied]].
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-->'''Teegan''': Ye got yer message through, lass. Ye done good. Take yer rest, noo.
-->'''Pete''': She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Teegan''': I know, laddie, I know.
-->'''Pete''': She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Teegan''': I know, laddie, I know.
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*** Kalec and Thrall give her one as well; Thrall points out that she's using the same artifact Garrosh used to exact her revenge, while Kalec bluntly tells her that she's using the same logic that Arthas used to justify the slaughter of Stratholme, before outright implying that she's being WORSE, since Artahs was acting more out of misguided compassion than hatred, before asking her if that's how she really wants to be remembered. Fortunately, Jaina realizes that they are both right and snaps out of her vendetta.
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** Jaina goes through a great deal throughout the book, growing increasingly frustrated and disillusioned about the possibility of peace between the Horde and the Alliance, [[spoiler:nearly succumbing to an overwhelming desire for revenge after Theramore's destruction, and finally emerges as someone who is prepared for war and the idea that all things must change, while still being able to acknowledge that once the war is over peace ma]].
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* AscendedMeme: Jaina invokes the "Daelin Proudmoore was right" meme, which is used as the basis for her subsequent (attempted) attack on Orgrimmar's population.
-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!
-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!
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-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!
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-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!
-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!
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** Jaina goes through a great deal throughout the book, growing increasingly frustrated and disillusioned about the possibility of peace between the Horde and the Alliance, [[spoiler:nearly succumbing to an overwhelming desire for revenge after Theramore's destruction, and finally emerges as someone who is prepared for war and the idea that all things must change]].change, while still being able to acknowledge that once the war is over peace ma]].
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-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something errible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
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-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something errible terrible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
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* IgnoredExpert: Jaina laments her status as one, noting that Thrall, Varian and especially Garrosh don't listen to her.
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* LineInTheSand: Baine and Vol'jin, convening a secret meeting to discuss Garrosh's actions, tells those in attendance that any who are too scared of the risk can back out. Some of them take the opportunity... and one brings back Garrosh.
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* TheStoolPigeon: A goblin serves as a Betrayer Barry for the meeting of dissidents.
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* TokenEnemyMinority: Eitrigg and Malkorok are among the few Blackrock orcs (a clan of orcs initially at the leadership of the warlock-controlled Horde, then allied with Nefarian) allied with the Horde. Vol'jin and Baine are wary of Malkorok, since he served Rend Blackhand.
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** Jaina to [[spoiler:Thrall. Twice. First telling him that leaving Garrosh at the helm of the horde has strained the Horde-Alliance relationship with his warmongering ways, and that one day everyone would regret it. The second time, she pretty much lays Theramore's fall at Thrall's feet saying it wouldn't have happened if Garrosh wasn't the warchief.]]
-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something errible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something errible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
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** [[spoiler:Jaina gives one to Varian and Anduin when they object to her plan to destroy Orgrimmar, calling them a "coward" and a "gullible child," respectively
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** [[spoiler:Jaina gives one to Varian and Anduin when they object to her plan to destroy Orgrimmar, calling them a "coward" and a "gullible child," respectivelyrespectively]]
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* BreakTheCutie: Jaina, as well as Kinnidy, who gets a harsh look at what war is like.
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* ItNeverGetsAnyEasier: Jaina tells Kinnidy that you can never truly get used to the costs associated with war, but after some time, it is no longer unfamiliar and you learn to move on. [[spoiler:She briefly loses sight of this in the wake of Theramore's destruction]].
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* ItNeverGetsAnyEasier: Jaina tells Kinnidy Kinndy that you can never truly get used to the costs associated with war, but after some time, it is no longer unfamiliar and you learn to move on. [[spoiler:She briefly loses sight of this in the wake of Theramore's destruction]].
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* SkilledButNaive: Kinnidy, a talented apprentice of Jaina who has never seen actual war before.
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* SkilledButNaive: Kinnidy, Kinndy, a talented apprentice of Jaina who has never seen actual war before.
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* WideEyesAndShrunkenIrises: Baine after Garrosh shows him [[spoiler:the mana bomb]].
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Thrall appointed Garrosh thinking he\'d seen some character development, you can say it was a mistake but that hardly makes him \"white\" on the morality spectrum
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: On the black side is Garrosh, who is becoming increasingly evil, and his accomplices [[TheDragon Malkorok]] and Gallywix. On the gray side are the rest of the Horde who, with various degrees of reluctance, are forced to fight in Garrosh's war, fearing retribution and not knowing his true plans, as well as the Alliance, whom Thrall points out are partly to blame for the deteriorating situation. Among the few "white" aligned characters are Thrall, Jaina and Anduin.
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: On the black side is Garrosh, who is becoming increasingly evil, and his accomplices [[TheDragon Malkorok]] and Gallywix. On the gray side are the rest of the Horde who, with various degrees of reluctance, are forced to fight in Garrosh's war, fearing retribution and not knowing his true plans, as well as the Alliance, whom Thrall points out are partly to blame for the deteriorating situation. Among the few "white" aligned characters are Thrall, Jaina and Anduin.
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* WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to stay behind to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him when he learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].
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* WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to stay behind to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him Thrall and Kalecgos when he they learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].Orgrimmar]].
** [[spoiler: Both instances overlap with TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. Jaina reminding Thrall that choosing Garrosh as the new Warchief was a really bad idea. Thrall and Kalecgos telling her she's acting just as bad as [[YouAreWhatYouHate Garrosh and Arthas]]]].
** [[spoiler: Both instances overlap with TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. Jaina reminding Thrall that choosing Garrosh as the new Warchief was a really bad idea. Thrall and Kalecgos telling her she's acting just as bad as [[YouAreWhatYouHate Garrosh and Arthas]]]].
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Garrosh is alienating the majority of the Horde; Baine and Vol’Jin oppose what he is doing, Lor’Thermar only stays on out of loyalty to the Horde in general, and Gallywix, who is despised even by his own people, stays for profit.
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Garrosh is alienating the majority of the Horde; Baine and Vol’Jin oppose what he is doing, Lor’Thermar only stays on out of loyalty to the Horde in general, and Gallywix, who is despised even by his own people, stays for profit.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Surprisingly dark even in comparison to novels taking place during Cataclysm. There are no easy answers to the questions facing the Alliance and the Horde, and a great deal of suffering and death occurs.
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* GeneralFailure / GeneralRipper: Garrosh is considered a terrible leader by Baine and Vol'jin after he hesitates on the attack, resulting in the Alliance reinforcing its position and many losses. [[spoiler:It turns out that he did this to get all of the Alliance's best forces in one location, then blow them up]].up, but none of his critics are pleased with this idea, either]].
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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Jaina comes to one regarding her plans to Orgrimmar, especiallyonce especially once she realizes that she would have also destroyed the Alliance navy]]
* IronicName: "Fort Triumph" falls to the Horde while making an ill-advised attempt to stand against them alone.
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**[[spoiler:Jaina realizes how similar she is becoming to Arthas and even Garrosh, as she plans on razing Orgrimmar. The realization causes her to abandon thoseplans]].plans]].
**On a more minor sense, when Baine questions Garrosh's decision to accept the loyalty of Blackrock orcs like Malkorok, Garrosh points out that Baine let the Grimtotem who swore loyalty to him stay in Thunder Bluff.
**[[spoiler:Jaina realizes how similar she is becoming to Arthas and even Garrosh, as she plans on razing Orgrimmar. The realization causes her to abandon those
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* ProperlyParanoid: [[spoiler:Vereesa, who is racist against blood elves, turns out to be right when Thalen Songweaver is a traitor]].traitor, although she also unfairly suspects that Aethas was in on it as well]]. Garrosh seems to prove right every bad conception Varian has about the Horde.
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* InterspeciesRomance: One is implied between [[spoiler:Jaina and Kalecgos]].
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Baine concedes that the destruction of Camp Taurajo, a somewhat controversial topic among the player base, was justified from a military perspective and carried out as mercifully as possible.
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-->Now it was moving. Fast.
-->And it was moving northwest. [[spoiler:Toward Theramore.]]
-->Now it was moving. Fast.
-->And it was moving northwest. [[spoiler:Toward Theramore.]]
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: On the black side is Garrosh, who is becoming increasingly evil, and his accomplices [[TheDragon Malkorok]] and Gallywix. On the gray side are the rest of the Horde who, with various degrees of reluctance, are forced to fight in Garrosh's war, fearing retribution and not knowing his true plans, as well as the Alliance, whom Thrall points out are partly to blame for the deteriorating situation. Among the few "white" aligned characters are Thrall, Jaina and Anduin.
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**Jaina goes through a great deal throughout the book, growing increasingly frustrated and disillusioned about the possibility of peace between the Horde and the Alliance, [[spoiler:nearly succumbing to an overwhelming desire for revenge after Theramore's destruction, and finally emerges as someone who is prepared for war and the idea that all things must change]].
** Anduin, after [[spoiler:hearing about Theramore's destruction]] goes from being a pacifist to recognizing that Garrosh is a threat who must be dealt with, but says that the war must be carried out justly.
* DeadpanSnarker: Hamuul Runetotem shows signs of this around Garrosh, especially as far as his[[RhetoricalRequestBlunder [[RhetoricalQuestionBlunder poorly thought out rhetorical questions go]].
**Jaina goes through a great deal throughout the book, growing increasingly frustrated and disillusioned about the possibility of peace between the Horde and the Alliance, [[spoiler:nearly succumbing to an overwhelming desire for revenge after Theramore's destruction, and finally emerges as someone who is prepared for war and the idea that all things must change]].
** Anduin, after [[spoiler:hearing about Theramore's destruction]] goes from being a pacifist to recognizing that Garrosh is a threat who must be dealt with, but says that the war must be carried out justly.
* DeadpanSnarker: Hamuul Runetotem shows signs of this around Garrosh, especially as far as his
* DeusExitMachina: Jaina vents her frustrations over Thrall being absent healing the world after Deathwing's defeat, and thus unable to stabilize things between the Horde and the Alliance. [[spoiler:He does, however, intervene to help stop Jaina after hearing about Theramore]].
** Potentially going to be played straight or subverted with Garrosh's views on Malkorok torturing and killing dissidents, depending on whether he tacitly approves or doesn't know. It is implied that when Malkorok served Rend, it was enough for him to simply shrug when Rend asked about the dissidents, which could indicate the latter for Garrosh.
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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Jaina]]
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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Jaina]][[spoiler:Jaina comes to one regarding her plans to Theramore, especiallyonce she realizes that she would have also destroyed the Alliance navy]]
* PragmaticVillainy: [[EvenEvilHasStandards Not even Garrosh likes Gallywix]], but he also realizes that, being driven by money, he's a reliable supporter as long as he can make a profit.
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* RhetoricalQuestionBackfire: Garrosh falls into these when [[DeadpanSnarker Hamuul]] is concerned.
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* RhetoricalQuestionBackfire: RhetoricalQuestionBlunder: Garrosh falls into these when [[DeadpanSnarker Hamuul]] is concerned.
* SenselessSacrifice: [[spoiler:Captain Wymor's sacrifice, given that Garrosh lives]].
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* WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to attempt to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him when he learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].
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* WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to attempt stay behind to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him when he learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].
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* RhetoricalRequestBlunder: Garrosh falls into these when [[DeadpanSnarker Hamuul]] is concerned.
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* RhetoricalRequestBlunder: RhetoricalQuestionBackfire: Garrosh falls into these when [[DeadpanSnarker Hamuul]] is concerned.
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->"But you know what doesn't change? Hatred. Hatred and the hunger for power. People get an idea or plan that works in their favor, and they dig in and won't let it go. They won't see what's right in front of them if it contradicts what they want. And the words of reason, of peace, just don't seem to be effective against that anymore."
-->-- Jaina Proudmoore.
-->-- Jaina Proudmoore.
-->'''Varian''': Even lovers of peace despise cowards.
* DeadpanSnarker: Hamuul Runetotem shows signs of this around Garrosh, especially as far as his [[RhetoricalRequestBlunder poorly thought out rhetorical questions go]].
* GeneralFailure / GeneralRipper: Garrosh is considered a terrible leader by Baine and Vol'jin after he hesitates on the attack, resulting in the Alliance reinforcing its position and many losses. [[spoiler:It turns out that he did this to get all of the Alliance's best forces in one location, then blow them up]].
** Baine smears Garrosh's face with a bloody rag from a dead tauren.
-->'''Baine''': That, Garrosh, is the blood of a young tauren who died obeying ''your'' orders! ''Your'' commands! The commands have left far too many stiffening in these muddy waters for no purpose! It is a more fitting decoration than your tattoos, Garrosh!"
-->'''Baine''': That, Garrosh, is the blood of a young tauren who died obeying ''your'' orders! ''Your'' commands! The commands have left far too many stiffening in these muddy waters for no purpose! It is a more fitting decoration than your tattoos, Garrosh!"
* RhetoricalRequestBlunder: Garrosh falls into these when [[DeadpanSnarker Hamuul]] is concerned.
-->'''Garrosh''': Does this look like the green skin of Thrall?
-->'''Hamuul''': No, Warchief. No one would ''ever'' mistake you for Thrall.
** Again regarding Garrosh's apparently unwise delay in the attack.
-->'''Garrosh''': And now, can you tell me what my decision to wait has brought us?
-->'''Hamuul''': Defeat?
* SadisticChoice: Baine and Vol'jin realize that Garrosh's war is not only immoral, but dangerous to them, but they also realize that he'll turn on them if they dare oppose him.
-->'''Garrosh''': Does this look like the green skin of Thrall?
-->'''Hamuul''': No, Warchief. No one would ''ever'' mistake you for Thrall.
** Again regarding Garrosh's apparently unwise delay in the attack.
-->'''Garrosh''': And now, can you tell me what my decision to wait has brought us?
-->'''Hamuul''': Defeat?
* SadisticChoice: Baine and Vol'jin realize that Garrosh's war is not only immoral, but dangerous to them, but they also realize that he'll turn on them if they dare oppose him.
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* SoProudOfYou: Varian to Anduin, after Anduin recognizes the necessity of action against Garrosh’s horde.
* TokenGoodTeammate: Baine and Vol'jin.
* TokenGoodTeammate: Baine and Vol'jin.
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* SoProudOfYou: Varian to Anduin, after Anduin prays for the soldiers of the Alliance in the hopes that they fight for a good cause, and recognizes the necessity of action against Garrosh’s horde.
* TitleDrop: In the prophecy at the end.
-->Be ye warned -- the tides of war
-->At last shall break upon the shore.
* TokenGoodTeammate: Baine andVol'jin.Vol'jin for the Horde.
* TitleDrop: In the prophecy at the end.
-->Be ye warned -- the tides of war
-->At last shall break upon the shore.
* TokenGoodTeammate: Baine and
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* WoundedGazelleGambit: Sylvanas' pleading with Lor'themar to stand with her as she argues that the Forsaken might bear the brunt of an Alliance counterattack in the northern Eastern Kingdoms can be seen as this, given that she had previously blackmailed him into supporting her war against the Lich King in Northrend.
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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler:Rhonin isn't quite able to stop the mana bomb, but he saves many lives, including Vereesa and Jaina's]].
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** [[spoiler:Captain Wymor and his men]] stay in the blast radius of an incoming bomb in the hopes that Garrosh
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** [[spoiler:Captain Wymor and his men]] stay in the blast radius of an incoming bomb in the hopes that Garrosh will be caught in the blast.
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** Jaina to one of the Horde soldiersr soldiers sent to finish her off [[spoiler:after Theramore’s destruction]]
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* TokenGoodTeammate: Baine and Vol'jin.
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Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War is the name of a World of Warcraft novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, had done for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria.
Deathwing has been defeated, but conflict rages between the Alliance and the Horde. As Garrosh prepares to invade the Alliance city of Theramore, he makes it clear that nothing less than absolute loyalty to him is required of the Horde's member races. His decision forces some of his allies, including Vol'jin and Baine Bloodhoof, to weigh whether to continue to be part of the Horde or withdraw to see to their own people's interests. The Alliance sees Garrosh as an increased threat, and peace as less and less possible.
In the midst of all this conflict, Kalecgos discovers that the Focusing Iris, a blue dragon artifact of great power, has been stolen from the Eye of Eternity. He approaches Jaina Proudmoore, leader of Theramore, to track down the artifact, but can they do so before the thieves cause a great disaster with its power?
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This novel contains examples of:
*AlmostDeadGuy: Two messengers at separate points. Lampshaded once
-->'''Teegan''': Ye got yer message through, lass. Ye done good. Take yer rest, noo.
-->'''Pete''': She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Teegan''': I know, laddie, I know.
*AnyoneCanDie
*BewareTheNiceOnes: Baine, when he shows Garrosh a clothing scrap from a dead tauren, saying his orders cost the tauren his life. Anduin recognizes that the time has come to fight the Horde after [[spoiler:Theramore's destruction]], and this is lampshaded by Varian.
*BigBad: Garrosh.
*BigDamnHeroes: Jaina, [[spoiler:helping the Alliance with her enslaved water elementals]]
*BreakTheCutie: Jaina
*DespairEventHorizon: Jaina after [[spoiler:Theramore is destroyed]]
*DevelopingDoomedCharacters: Do not get too attached to [[spoiler:Jaina’s apprentice, her bodyguard or the forces defending Theramore]]
*DirtyCoward: Varian calls Garrosh this, especially considering his [[spoiler:bombing Theramore.]]
*DoNotCallMePaul: Thrall insists on going by his birth name, Go’el, rather than Thrall, the name he was known by for much of the series since Lord of the Clans.
*TheDragon: Malkorok is this to Garrosh.
*EvenEvilHasStandards
**Garrosh doesn’t like Gallywix’s materialism, but keeps him around because he won’t object to anything as long as there is profit to be made.
**In a sense, Varian, despite being one of the more belligerent and warlike Alliance leaders, is disturbed by how far [[spoiler:Jaina Proudmoore]] plans to go after [[spoiler:the destruction of Theramore]].
*HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Jaina]]
*HeroicSacrifice:
** [[spoiler:Captain Wymor and his men]] stay in the blast radius of an incoming bomb in the hopes that Garrosh
** [[spoiler:Rhonin, to minimize the damage of the mana bomb and save Jaina and the other forces outside the city, including his wife Vereesa]].
*HopeSpot: The members of the Alliance send their strongest forces to defend Theramore, [[spoiler:and get annihilated by the mana bomb]].
*JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope: [[spoiler:Jaina, after Theramore’s destruction, plans on annihilating the Horde]]
*KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Rhonin, and many other minor characters, in Theramore]]
*LateArrivalSpoiler:You will likely have heard about [[spoiler:Theramore’s fate]] if you play WorldOfWarcraft, but thankfully, the back cover only implies what will happen to it.
*TheMole: [[spoiler:Thalen Songweaver]]
*NoOneCouldSurviveThat: Jaina regarding Garrosh's surviving a bomb blast nearby.
*NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler:Jaina realizes how similar she is becoming to Arthas and even Garrosh, as she plans on razing Orgrimmar. The realization causes her to abandon those plans]].
*ProperlyParanoid: [[spoiler:Vereesa, who is racist against blood elves, turns out to be right when Thalen Songweaver is a traitor]]. Garrosh seems to prove right every bad conception Varian has about the Horde.
*TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:
**Jaina to one of the Horde soldiersr sent to finish her off [[spoiler:after Theramore’s destruction]]
**Varian to Garrosh.
-->'''Varian''': You have grown cowardly since we last met. First magnataur, then elementals, then kraken to do your dirty work. Did you run and hide when you [[spoiler:dropped the mana bomb]]? I’m sure you were a safe distance away!
*SlaveMooks: The molten giants Garrosh enslaves [[spoiler:and also Jaina’s water elementals]].
*SoProudOfYou: Varian to Anduin, after Anduin recognizes the necessity of action against Garrosh’s horde.
*WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to attempt to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him when he learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].
*YouAreInCommandNow: [[spoiler:Jaina, over the Kirin Tor]].
*ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Garrosh is alienating the majority of the Horde; Baine and Vol’Jin oppose what he is doing, Lor’Thermar only stays on out of loyalty to the Horde in general, and Gallywix, who is despised even by his own people, stays for profit.
Deathwing has been defeated, but conflict rages between the Alliance and the Horde. As Garrosh prepares to invade the Alliance city of Theramore, he makes it clear that nothing less than absolute loyalty to him is required of the Horde's member races. His decision forces some of his allies, including Vol'jin and Baine Bloodhoof, to weigh whether to continue to be part of the Horde or withdraw to see to their own people's interests. The Alliance sees Garrosh as an increased threat, and peace as less and less possible.
In the midst of all this conflict, Kalecgos discovers that the Focusing Iris, a blue dragon artifact of great power, has been stolen from the Eye of Eternity. He approaches Jaina Proudmoore, leader of Theramore, to track down the artifact, but can they do so before the thieves cause a great disaster with its power?
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This novel contains examples of:
*AlmostDeadGuy: Two messengers at separate points. Lampshaded once
-->'''Teegan''': Ye got yer message through, lass. Ye done good. Take yer rest, noo.
-->'''Pete''': She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Teegan''': I know, laddie, I know.
*AnyoneCanDie
*BewareTheNiceOnes: Baine, when he shows Garrosh a clothing scrap from a dead tauren, saying his orders cost the tauren his life. Anduin recognizes that the time has come to fight the Horde after [[spoiler:Theramore's destruction]], and this is lampshaded by Varian.
*BigBad: Garrosh.
*BigDamnHeroes: Jaina, [[spoiler:helping the Alliance with her enslaved water elementals]]
*BreakTheCutie: Jaina
*DespairEventHorizon: Jaina after [[spoiler:Theramore is destroyed]]
*DevelopingDoomedCharacters: Do not get too attached to [[spoiler:Jaina’s apprentice, her bodyguard or the forces defending Theramore]]
*DirtyCoward: Varian calls Garrosh this, especially considering his [[spoiler:bombing Theramore.]]
*DoNotCallMePaul: Thrall insists on going by his birth name, Go’el, rather than Thrall, the name he was known by for much of the series since Lord of the Clans.
*TheDragon: Malkorok is this to Garrosh.
*EvenEvilHasStandards
**Garrosh doesn’t like Gallywix’s materialism, but keeps him around because he won’t object to anything as long as there is profit to be made.
**In a sense, Varian, despite being one of the more belligerent and warlike Alliance leaders, is disturbed by how far [[spoiler:Jaina Proudmoore]] plans to go after [[spoiler:the destruction of Theramore]].
*HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Jaina]]
*HeroicSacrifice:
** [[spoiler:Captain Wymor and his men]] stay in the blast radius of an incoming bomb in the hopes that Garrosh
** [[spoiler:Rhonin, to minimize the damage of the mana bomb and save Jaina and the other forces outside the city, including his wife Vereesa]].
*HopeSpot: The members of the Alliance send their strongest forces to defend Theramore, [[spoiler:and get annihilated by the mana bomb]].
*JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope: [[spoiler:Jaina, after Theramore’s destruction, plans on annihilating the Horde]]
*KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Rhonin, and many other minor characters, in Theramore]]
*LateArrivalSpoiler:You will likely have heard about [[spoiler:Theramore’s fate]] if you play WorldOfWarcraft, but thankfully, the back cover only implies what will happen to it.
*TheMole: [[spoiler:Thalen Songweaver]]
*NoOneCouldSurviveThat: Jaina regarding Garrosh's surviving a bomb blast nearby.
*NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler:Jaina realizes how similar she is becoming to Arthas and even Garrosh, as she plans on razing Orgrimmar. The realization causes her to abandon those plans]].
*ProperlyParanoid: [[spoiler:Vereesa, who is racist against blood elves, turns out to be right when Thalen Songweaver is a traitor]]. Garrosh seems to prove right every bad conception Varian has about the Horde.
*TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:
**Jaina to one of the Horde soldiersr sent to finish her off [[spoiler:after Theramore’s destruction]]
**Varian to Garrosh.
-->'''Varian''': You have grown cowardly since we last met. First magnataur, then elementals, then kraken to do your dirty work. Did you run and hide when you [[spoiler:dropped the mana bomb]]? I’m sure you were a safe distance away!
*SlaveMooks: The molten giants Garrosh enslaves [[spoiler:and also Jaina’s water elementals]].
*SoProudOfYou: Varian to Anduin, after Anduin recognizes the necessity of action against Garrosh’s horde.
*WhatTheHellHero: Jaina gives one to Thrall in reference to his decision to attempt to heal the world rather than take Garrosh’s place. [[spoiler:She gets one back from him when he learns of her plans for Orgrimmar]].
*YouAreInCommandNow: [[spoiler:Jaina, over the Kirin Tor]].
*ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Garrosh is alienating the majority of the Horde; Baine and Vol’Jin oppose what he is doing, Lor’Thermar only stays on out of loyalty to the Horde in general, and Gallywix, who is despised even by his own people, stays for profit.
