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* While not on the same level as wars and battles, in ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' Annie has succeeded in a dangerous plan that involved a bunch of her friends but nearly got them killed. One of them, Red, a fairy who became a human who isn't known for [[BlueAndOrangeMorality caring about consequences]], has had time to think about exactly what Annie got her and her friends into and is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laying into Annie's decisions]]. Annie has such a bad track record of defending herself (either making up a lie that makes her look worse or having her reasoning be revealed as incredibly lame when spoken out loud), and the plan so dangerous that going it alone wasn't an option either that ''Red says this for her'':
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* While not on the same level as wars and battles, in ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' Annie has succeeded in a dangerous plan that involved a bunch of her friends but nearly got them killed. They all agree with her that it was the right thing to do. One of them, Red, a fairy who became a human who isn't known for [[BlueAndOrangeMorality caring about consequences]], has had time to think about exactly what Annie got her and her friends into and is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laying into Annie's decisions]]. Annie has such a bad track record of defending herself (either making up a lie that makes her look worse or having her reasoning be revealed as incredibly lame when spoken out loud), and the plan so dangerous that going it alone wasn't an option either that ''Red them says this for her'':her:
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** Ironically Red's two main complaints are that Annie forced/manipulated her friends into danger and that she put everyone at risk when it was ''Red'' who chose to join the team because she wanted to be with her friend, a fellow ex-fairy who was recruited for her MasterOfIllusion and EmotionControl powers (Red, on the other hand, has never displayed any special powers and apparently had no role in Annie's plan other than perhaps "emotional support" for her friend) and it was ''Red'' who put everyone at risk because she was distracting her. Annie's other friends point out that while she lead the endeavor, she didn't manipulate them into helping, they agreed with her that it was the right thing to do and volunteered knowing the risks.
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* [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes What it Takes]] shows this all too well, [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=43 here]] and [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=44 here]]
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* Krunch's comment to Cale on [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/87 this page]] of ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup''.
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** Krunch's comment to Cale on [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/87 thispage]] of ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup''.page]]: "You did what you had to do."
** Krunch's comment to Cale on [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/87 this
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** Also in 4U City. [[spoiler: Alt-Riff agreed with him to the extent that he grew into his philosophy and methods.]]
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** {{Defied|Trope}} by the fiends offering Vaarsuvius a DealWithTheDevil. They tell V about an alternative to their offer, ''specifically'' in response to V claiming this, to ensure that V knows they truly accepted the deal out of pure {{Pride}}.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Unordinary}}'': John says this word for word when Arlo confronts him at the infirmary for [[spoiler: having sent Isen there.]] Arlo verbally subverts it: if John's only goal had really been [[spoiler: finding Sera,]] he wouldn't have been so violent, as there was no need for it. John admits it quite quickly that he went out of his way to make [[spoiler: Isen]] suffer out of a desire for revenge. That's something of a running theme with John: he claims to be out to do what is necessary, but it's undeniable that there (also) are many personal motivations behind his actions.
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** While the most poignant example in the comic, not the first. Played seriously and then for laughs [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/25 on this page]].
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* In ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}'', [[MagnificentBastard Vriska Serket]] justifies [[spoiler: mind-controlling an army of ghosts and sending them all to the [[CessationOfExistence post-death slaughter]]]] because the threat of [[BigBad Lord English]] is far bigger in the grand scheme of things than her actions. Of course, her own ego might also be a factor in this. Recently, Aranea Serket [[spoiler: decides to steal John's ring and come back to life in order to stop English before he could ever become a threat in the first place]], which involves her lying, stealing and potentially dooming the timeline and herself if her plan doesn't work; all of which she justifies this way as well. While it's never quite explicitly stated, Kanaya seems to generally operate on this principle too. [[spoiler: That's why she can cut off Tavros's paralyzed legs so Equius can replace them with robotic prosthetics without batting an eye, and why she's more than willing to kill Gamzee after he goes mad (and actually does kill Eridan when he turns traitor) to keep the rest of the team safe.]]
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* In ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}'', [[MagnificentBastard [[TokenEvilTeammate Vriska Serket]] justifies [[spoiler: mind-controlling an army of ghosts and sending them all to the [[CessationOfExistence post-death slaughter]]]] because the threat of [[BigBad Lord English]] is far bigger in the grand scheme of things than her actions. Of course, her own ego might also be a factor in this. Recently, Aranea Serket [[spoiler: decides to steal John's ring and come back to life in order to stop English before he could ever become a threat in the first place]], which involves her lying, stealing and potentially dooming the timeline and herself if her plan doesn't work; all of which she justifies this way as well. While it's never quite explicitly stated, Kanaya seems to generally operate on this principle too. [[spoiler: That's why she can cut off Tavros's paralyzed legs so Equius can replace them with robotic prosthetics without batting an eye, and why she's more than willing to kill Gamzee after he goes mad (and actually does kill Eridan when he turns traitor) to keep the rest of the team safe.]]
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** Ironically Red's two main complaints are that Annie forced/manipulated her friends into danger and that she put everyone at risk when it was ''Red'' who chose to join the team because she wanted to be with her friend, a fellow ex-fairy who was recruited for her MasterOfIllusion and EmotionControl powers (Red, on the other hand, has never displayed any special powers and apparently had no role in Annie's plan other than perhaps "emotional support" for her friend) and it was ''Red'' who put everyone at risk because she was distracting her. Annie's other friends point out that while she lead the endeavor, she didn't manipulate them into helping, they agreed with her that it was the right thing to do and volunteered knowing the risks.
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** Ironically Red's two main complaints are that Annie forced/manipulated her friends into danger and that she put everyone at risk when it was ''Red'' who chose to join the team because she wanted to be with her friend, a fellow ex-fairy who was recruited for her MasterOfIllusion and EmotionControl powers (Red, on the other hand, has never displayed any special powers and apparently had no role in Annie's plan other than perhaps "emotional support" for her friend) and it was ''Red'' who put everyone at risk because she was distracting her. Annie's other friends point out that while she lead the endeavor, she didn't manipulate them into helping, they agreed with her that it was the right thing to do and volunteered knowing the risks.risks.
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* Dr. Schlock from ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' lives and breathes this trope, always betraying someone or another in order to keep a different someone or another from killing him. Reaches its peak in [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=070928 this]] strip.
** Also in 4U City. [[spoiler: Alt-Riff agreed with him to the extent that he grew into his philosophy and methods.]]
* Said verbatim by Anakin in [[http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0108.html this episode]] of ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', after deliberately destroying Sebulba's pod (and possibly Sebulba) to win the pod race.
* Krunch's comment to Cale on [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/87 this page]] of ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup''.
** While the most poignant example in the comic, not the first. Played seriously and then for laughs [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/25 on this page]].
** Later Pella uses it after she [[spoiler:kills innocent gnomes to force the rest to evacuate from their fortress.]] This makes Cale unhappy because at that point she was the only member of his party he was sure ''would not'' use that excuse.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Harkovast}}'', Shogun views killing wounded, surrendering opponents as perfectly reasonable, and angrily defends this concept when questioned by the other characters.
* In ''Webcomic/NoRestForTheWicked'', [[http://www.forthewicked.net/archive/04-39.html when November wonders if there was another way, Red tells November that the woman was dead; she just killed the monster inhabiting her skin.]]
* [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?comic=091012 Invoked]] by [[spoiler:Solaris]] in ''Webcomic/{{Aikonia}}''.
* [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes What it Takes]] shows this all too well, [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=43 here]] and [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=44 here]]
* Maxim 20 from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.
* In ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}'', [[MagnificentBastard Vriska Serket]] justifies [[spoiler: mind-controlling an army of ghosts and sending them all to the [[CessationOfExistence post-death slaughter]]]] because the threat of [[BigBad Lord English]] is far bigger in the grand scheme of things than her actions. Of course, her own ego might also be a factor in this. Recently, Aranea Serket [[spoiler: decides to steal John's ring and come back to life in order to stop English before he could ever become a threat in the first place]], which involves her lying, stealing and potentially dooming the timeline and herself if her plan doesn't work; all of which she justifies this way as well. While it's never quite explicitly stated, Kanaya seems to generally operate on this principle too. [[spoiler: That's why she can cut off Tavros's paralyzed legs so Equius can replace them with robotic prosthetics without batting an eye, and why she's more than willing to kill Gamzee after he goes mad (and actually does kill Eridan when he turns traitor) to keep the rest of the team safe.]]
* In ''WebComic/GirlGenius'', this is Baron Wulfenbach's justification for conquering Europe. The only way to stop the ForeverWar was to win it himself. [[TheExtremistWasRight And it worked]]. During the comic itself, he continues in that same mindset, but having only partial information leads him to confrontation with the protagonists while the true villains escape his grasp.
* Billy Thatcher in ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]'' pulls this card on Asia when he cheats on their magic trial to win a phone call to his loved ones outside of captivity. The only reason cheating is even a concern is because of Asia's extreme honesty and good morality. Billy is intent on not allowing her naive belief system ruin their better shots for freedom.
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** Lord Shojo had some choice words to say when his ObfuscatingStupidity ruse was found out by his underlings, including his nephew Hinjo (who takes it especially hard).
--->'''Hinjo''': The ends justify the means, is that it?\\
'''Shojo''': [[BluntYes Frankly, yes.]]\\
'''Hinjo''': You have brought disgrace to our name, Uncle. I am glad Mother did not live to see this day.\\
'''Shojo:''' Oh grow up Hinjo! My sister was the daughter of a great leader, she would have understood all too well that I don't have the luxury of putting Soon Kim's obsolete morality ahead of the safety of this city. It's all well and good for you paladins to stick to your convictions, but if ''I'' make a mistake, half a million citizens pay for it.
** {{Defied|Trope}} by the fiends offering Vaarsuvius a DealWithTheDevil. They tell V about an alternative to their offer, ''specifically'' in response to V claiming this, to ensure that V knows they truly accepted the deal out of pure {{Pride}}.
* While not on the same level as wars and battles, in ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' Annie has succeeded in a dangerous plan that involved a bunch of her friends but nearly got them killed. One of them, Red, a fairy who became a human who isn't known for [[BlueAndOrangeMorality caring about consequences]], has had time to think about exactly what Annie got her and her friends into and is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laying into Annie's decisions]]. Annie has such a bad track record of defending herself (either making up a lie that makes her look worse or having her reasoning be revealed as incredibly lame when spoken out loud), and the plan so dangerous that going it alone wasn't an option either that ''Red says this for her'':
-->'''Red''': Well you did what you had to do, I guess.
** Ironically Red's two main complaints are that Annie forced/manipulated her friends into danger and that she put everyone at risk when it was ''Red'' who chose to join the team because she wanted to be with her friend, a fellow ex-fairy who was recruited for her MasterOfIllusion and EmotionControl powers (Red, on the other hand, has never displayed any special powers and apparently had no role in Annie's plan other than perhaps "emotional support" for her friend) and it was ''Red'' who put everyone at risk because she was distracting her. Annie's other friends point out that while she lead the endeavor, she didn't manipulate them into helping, they agreed with her that it was the right thing to do and volunteered knowing the risks.
** Also in 4U City. [[spoiler: Alt-Riff agreed with him to the extent that he grew into his philosophy and methods.]]
* Said verbatim by Anakin in [[http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0108.html this episode]] of ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', after deliberately destroying Sebulba's pod (and possibly Sebulba) to win the pod race.
* Krunch's comment to Cale on [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/87 this page]] of ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup''.
** While the most poignant example in the comic, not the first. Played seriously and then for laughs [[http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/25 on this page]].
** Later Pella uses it after she [[spoiler:kills innocent gnomes to force the rest to evacuate from their fortress.]] This makes Cale unhappy because at that point she was the only member of his party he was sure ''would not'' use that excuse.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Harkovast}}'', Shogun views killing wounded, surrendering opponents as perfectly reasonable, and angrily defends this concept when questioned by the other characters.
* In ''Webcomic/NoRestForTheWicked'', [[http://www.forthewicked.net/archive/04-39.html when November wonders if there was another way, Red tells November that the woman was dead; she just killed the monster inhabiting her skin.]]
* [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?comic=091012 Invoked]] by [[spoiler:Solaris]] in ''Webcomic/{{Aikonia}}''.
* [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes What it Takes]] shows this all too well, [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=43 here]] and [[http://warofwinds.com/what-it-takes/?comic_id=44 here]]
* Maxim 20 from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.
* In ''{{Webcomic/Homestuck}}'', [[MagnificentBastard Vriska Serket]] justifies [[spoiler: mind-controlling an army of ghosts and sending them all to the [[CessationOfExistence post-death slaughter]]]] because the threat of [[BigBad Lord English]] is far bigger in the grand scheme of things than her actions. Of course, her own ego might also be a factor in this. Recently, Aranea Serket [[spoiler: decides to steal John's ring and come back to life in order to stop English before he could ever become a threat in the first place]], which involves her lying, stealing and potentially dooming the timeline and herself if her plan doesn't work; all of which she justifies this way as well. While it's never quite explicitly stated, Kanaya seems to generally operate on this principle too. [[spoiler: That's why she can cut off Tavros's paralyzed legs so Equius can replace them with robotic prosthetics without batting an eye, and why she's more than willing to kill Gamzee after he goes mad (and actually does kill Eridan when he turns traitor) to keep the rest of the team safe.]]
* In ''WebComic/GirlGenius'', this is Baron Wulfenbach's justification for conquering Europe. The only way to stop the ForeverWar was to win it himself. [[TheExtremistWasRight And it worked]]. During the comic itself, he continues in that same mindset, but having only partial information leads him to confrontation with the protagonists while the true villains escape his grasp.
* Billy Thatcher in ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]'' pulls this card on Asia when he cheats on their magic trial to win a phone call to his loved ones outside of captivity. The only reason cheating is even a concern is because of Asia's extreme honesty and good morality. Billy is intent on not allowing her naive belief system ruin their better shots for freedom.
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** Lord Shojo had some choice words to say when his ObfuscatingStupidity ruse was found out by his underlings, including his nephew Hinjo (who takes it especially hard).
--->'''Hinjo''': The ends justify the means, is that it?\\
'''Shojo''': [[BluntYes Frankly, yes.]]\\
'''Hinjo''': You have brought disgrace to our name, Uncle. I am glad Mother did not live to see this day.\\
'''Shojo:''' Oh grow up Hinjo! My sister was the daughter of a great leader, she would have understood all too well that I don't have the luxury of putting Soon Kim's obsolete morality ahead of the safety of this city. It's all well and good for you paladins to stick to your convictions, but if ''I'' make a mistake, half a million citizens pay for it.
** {{Defied|Trope}} by the fiends offering Vaarsuvius a DealWithTheDevil. They tell V about an alternative to their offer, ''specifically'' in response to V claiming this, to ensure that V knows they truly accepted the deal out of pure {{Pride}}.
* While not on the same level as wars and battles, in ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' Annie has succeeded in a dangerous plan that involved a bunch of her friends but nearly got them killed. One of them, Red, a fairy who became a human who isn't known for [[BlueAndOrangeMorality caring about consequences]], has had time to think about exactly what Annie got her and her friends into and is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laying into Annie's decisions]]. Annie has such a bad track record of defending herself (either making up a lie that makes her look worse or having her reasoning be revealed as incredibly lame when spoken out loud), and the plan so dangerous that going it alone wasn't an option either that ''Red says this for her'':
-->'''Red''': Well you did what you had to do, I guess.
** Ironically Red's two main complaints are that Annie forced/manipulated her friends into danger and that she put everyone at risk when it was ''Red'' who chose to join the team because she wanted to be with her friend, a fellow ex-fairy who was recruited for her MasterOfIllusion and EmotionControl powers (Red, on the other hand, has never displayed any special powers and apparently had no role in Annie's plan other than perhaps "emotional support" for her friend) and it was ''Red'' who put everyone at risk because she was distracting her. Annie's other friends point out that while she lead the endeavor, she didn't manipulate them into helping, they agreed with her that it was the right thing to do and volunteered knowing the risks.
