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** Finally, in ''Omniverse,'' as in the previous series, Gwen seems a bit obsessed with Charmcaster. In "Charm School," Gwen tries to get her to see reason after being told by a reformed Hex that there was some good left in her.

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** Finally, in ''Omniverse,'' as in the previous series, Gwen seems a bit obsessed with Charmcaster. In "Charm School," Gwen tries to get her to see reason after being told by a reformed Hex that there was some good left in her. Also, one of first things Charmcaster does in the same episode was to wink at Gwen.
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** And, instead of Gwen, it's NotSoStoic Kevin that's the first to run over to check on Ben after he's thrown into a wall in "Fused" and then hold his hand while helping him up. And I'm not talking that wrist-grab thing guys do, I'm talking ''hand'' holding. [[RelationshipWritingFumble Made funny by the fact that minutes later he has to do the same for Gwen but just sort of pulls at her arm half-heartedly instead]].

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** And, instead of Gwen, it's NotSoStoic Kevin that's the first to run over to check on Ben after he's thrown into a wall in "Fused" and then hold his hand while helping him up. And I'm not talking that wrist-grab thing guys do, I'm talking ''hand'' holding. [[RelationshipWritingFumble [[PlatonicWritingRomanticReading Made funny by the fact that minutes later he has to do the same for Gwen but just sort of pulls at her arm half-heartedly instead]].
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* In the original series Gwen and Charmcaster, much like Ben and Kevin, had a healthy, or not so healthy, amount of FoeYay, which included an episode where they switched bodies. While their normal FoeYay interactions continued in ''Alien Force'' it wouldn't be until the ''Ultimate Alien'' episode "Where the Magic Happens," that the ship changes from FoeYay to LesYay and takes off.

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* In the original series Gwen and Charmcaster, much like Ben and Kevin, had a healthy, or not so healthy, amount of FoeYay, tension, which included an episode where they switched bodies. While their normal FoeYay these interactions continued in ''Alien Force'' it wouldn't be until the ''Ultimate Alien'' episode "Where the Magic Happens," that the ship changes from FoeYay FoeYayShipping to LesYay and takes off.

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** While Ben and Kevin rule the HoYay department, Paradox and humanized Hugo in ''Paradox'' left quite an impact. In the final part of the episode, [[spoiler:Paradox walks an old Hugo into the time portal, to take him on the journey he didn't have the chance to go on all those years ago.]]

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\n** * While Ben and Kevin rule the HoYay department, Paradox and humanized Hugo in ''Paradox'' left quite an impact. In the final part of the episode, [[spoiler:Paradox walks an old Hugo into the time portal, to take him on the journey he didn't have the chance to go on all those years ago.]]



** A HoYay OT3 developed between Rook, Ben, and Kevin. Rook has ho yay with both Ben and Kevin, whose relationship remains close, and WordOfGod states that Ben's greatest fear is that Rook likes Kevin more than him.

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** * A HoYay OT3 developed between Rook, Ben, and Kevin. Rook has ho yay with both Ben and Kevin, whose relationship remains close, and WordOfGod states that Ben's greatest fear is that Rook likes Kevin more than him.



** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben starts returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, but he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.
** Rook pulling Ben away from the monitors to talk about romantic comedies in "Animo Crackers."
** Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.
** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode and work well together during the climatic fight, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication... even Ester's brief spats of jealousy after Spanner reveals to Ben that Kai is his destiny is pretty downplayed compared to most examples of [[ClingyJealousGirl the trope]].

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** * In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben starts returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, but he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.
** * Rook pulling Ben away from the monitors to talk about romantic comedies in "Animo Crackers."
** * Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.
** * "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode and work well together during the climatic fight, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication... even Ester's brief spats of jealousy after Spanner reveals to Ben that Kai is his destiny is pretty downplayed compared to most examples of [[ClingyJealousGirl the trope]].
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** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode, Ester even comes to Kai's defense when Ben is less than sympathetic about the theft of the artifact, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication... even Ester's brief spats of jealousy after Spanner reveals to Ben that Kai is his destiny is pretty downplayed compared to most examples of [{ClingyJealousGirl the trope]].

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** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode, Ester even comes to Kai's defense when Ben is less than sympathetic about episode and work well together during the theft of the artifact, climatic fight, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication... even Ester's brief spats of jealousy after Spanner reveals to Ben that Kai is his destiny is pretty downplayed compared to most examples of [{ClingyJealousGirl [[ClingyJealousGirl the trope]].
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** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode, Ester even comes to Kai's defense when Ben is less than sympathetic about the theft of the artifact, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication...

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** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode, Ester even comes to Kai's defense when Ben is less than sympathetic about the theft of the artifact, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication... even Ester's brief spats of jealousy after Spanner reveals to Ben that Kai is his destiny is pretty downplayed compared to most examples of [{ClingyJealousGirl the trope]].
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** Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.

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** Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.work.
** "Fight At The Museum" was so loaded with Kai/Ester it was almost like Spanner had to travel back just to sink the ship so [[spoiler: he could be born in the first place.]] Not only are they very polite to each other throughout the episode, Ester even comes to Kai's defense when Ben is less than sympathetic about the theft of the artifact, then there's the fact that Kai seems to be something of a xenophile if her reaction to Ben's alien forms is any indication...
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** In "Undercover," Kevinis seen carrying Ben around, and doesn't seem to want to put him down.

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** In "Undercover," Kevinis Kevin is seen carrying Ben around, and doesn't seem to want to put him down.
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** "In Charm's Way" has a scene where Kevin's trying to convince Gwen to come with him. While Gwen is suspicious of the way Kevin's acting, Ben is more than happy to let Kevin know how enthusiastic he is to go, well, pretty much anywhere Kevin suggests. [[http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Ben-10-Alien-Force/Season-03-Episode-009-In-Charm-s-Way-Salman?id=1179 09:43 to 09:34]]


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** "In Charm's Way" has a scene where Kevin's trying to convince Gwen to come with him. While Gwen is suspicious of the way Kevin's acting, Ben is more than happy to let Kevin know how enthusiastic he is to go, well, pretty much anywhere Kevin suggests. [[http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Ben-10-Alien-Force/Season-03-Episode-009-In-Charm-s-Way-Salman?id=1179 09:43 to 09:34]]

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*** Note that an [[http://oi45.tinypic.com/30bzjfs.jpg establishing shot]] proves that there's plenty of couch room and even an unoccupied chair right across from them, so they wouldn't be sitting so close unless they really wanted to.
*** Finally, during the fight with Gwen's grandmother, at one point [[http://oi48.tinypic.com/zl3s5i.jpg an unconscious Ben ends up laying in Kevin's lap.]] It isn't even {{Subtext}} anymore, it's just plain text.

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*** Note that an [[http://oi45.tinypic.com/30bzjfs.jpg establishing shot]] shot proves that there's plenty of couch room and even an unoccupied chair right across from them, so they wouldn't be sitting so close unless they really wanted to.
*** Finally, during the fight with Gwen's grandmother, at one point [[http://oi48.tinypic.com/zl3s5i.jpg point an unconscious Ben ends up laying in Kevin's lap.]] lap. It isn't even {{Subtext}} anymore, it's just plain text.



** In [[http://oi47.tinypic.com/s2yyop.jpg these]] [[http://oi50.tinypic.com/kbsvib.jpg screenshots]] from "Undercover," Kevin's carrying Ben around, and doesn't seem to want to put him down.

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** In [[http://oi47.tinypic.com/s2yyop.jpg these]] [[http://oi50.tinypic.com/kbsvib.jpg screenshots]] from "Undercover," Kevin's Kevinis seen carrying Ben around, and doesn't seem to want to put him down.
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** The very end of "Be-Knighted" also raises an eyebrow or two when [[http://oi48.tinypic.com/2upxz09.jpg Kevin puts his arm around Ben]], and not only does Ben not protest or awkwardly step out of the embrace, but they walk off together as if it's completely normal, with a knowing wink to Gwen.

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** The very end of "Be-Knighted" also raises an eyebrow or two when [[http://oi48.tinypic.com/2upxz09.jpg when Kevin puts his arm around Ben]], Ben, and not only does Ben not protest or awkwardly step out of the embrace, but they walk off together as if it's completely normal, with a knowing wink to Gwen.
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--> '''Ben:''' ''[dusts Kevin's shoulders, then smiles]'' There. Now, don't you look dapper?

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--> ---> '''Ben:''' ''[dusts Kevin's shoulders, then smiles]'' There. Now, don't you look dapper?



** At the end of "Save the Last Dance," Kevin [[spoiler:shows Ben the footage of his Necrofriggian children,]] and calls Ben "mommy." Ben is (understandably) extremely embarrassed.

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** *** At the end of "Save the Last Dance," Kevin [[spoiler:shows Ben the footage of his Necrofriggian children,]] and calls Ben "mommy." Ben is (understandably) extremely embarrassed.
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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's first encounter draws parallels to the time [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel and Dean]] met.

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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's Rook and Ben's first encounter draws parallels to the time [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural [[Series/{{Supernatural}} Castiel and Dean]] (who also have [[HoYay/{{Supernatural}} a healthy amount of subtext]]) first met.
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** Rook pulling Ben away from the monitors to talk about romantic comedies in "Animo Crackers."
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** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben starts returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, and he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.

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** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben starts returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, and but he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.
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** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, and he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.

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** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben starts returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, and he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.
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** In "Hot Stretch" Rook goes from amused to hostile when Ben returning Ester's advances. Rook knew Ester was a thief from the start, and he didn't hold it against her then. Not to mention, when the kids assume Ben is Ester's bf, one stare from Rook has Ben hastily clarifying that he's not actually Ester's boyfriend.
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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's first encounter draws parallels to the time [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's and Dean's]] met.

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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's first encounter draws parallels to the time [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's Castiel and Dean's]] Dean]] met.
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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's and Dean's]] first encounter.

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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting first encounter draws parallels to the time [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's and Dean's]] first encounter.met.
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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.]]

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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Castiel's and Dean's Dean's]] first encounter.]]
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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's]] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.

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** In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's]] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.]]
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** Rook's and Ben's meeting in "The More Things Change: Part 1" draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's]] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.

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** Rook's and Ben's meeting in In "The More Things Change: Part 1" Rook's and Ben's meeting draws parallels to [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's]] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.
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** Rook's and Ben's meeting in "The More Things Change: Part 1" draws parallels to [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.

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** Rook's and Ben's meeting in "The More Things Change: Part 1" draws parallels to [http://tvtropes.[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's] Supernatural's]] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.

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* While Ben and Kevin rule the HoYay department, Paradox and humanized Hugo in ''Paradox'' left quite an impact. In the final part of the episode, [[spoiler:Paradox walks an old Hugo into the time portal, to take him on the journey he didn't have the chance to go on all those years ago.]]

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* ** While Ben and Kevin rule the HoYay department, Paradox and humanized Hugo in ''Paradox'' left quite an impact. In the final part of the episode, [[spoiler:Paradox walks an old Hugo into the time portal, to take him on the journey he didn't have the chance to go on all those years ago.]]



* A HoYay OT3 developed between Rook, Ben, and Kevin. Rook has ho yay with both Ben and Kevin, whose relationship remains close, and WordOfGod states that Ben's greatest fear is that Rook likes Kevin more than him.
* Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.

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* ** A HoYay OT3 developed between Rook, Ben, and Kevin. Rook has ho yay with both Ben and Kevin, whose relationship remains close, and WordOfGod states that Ben's greatest fear is that Rook likes Kevin more than him.
* ** Rook's and Ben's meeting in "The More Things Change: Part 1" draws parallels to [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Supernatural Supernatural's] Castiel's and Dean's first encounter.
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Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work.
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* Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work, but still.

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* Ben's and Rook's interactions had enough subtext that the writers changed the dynamic in an attempt to make people like Ben/Kai. It didn't work, but still.work.
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** "In Charm's Way" has a scene where Kevin's trying to convince Gwen to come with him. While Gwen is suspicious of the way Kevin's acting, Ben is more than happy to let Kevin know how enthusiastic he is to go, well, pretty much anywhere Kevin suggests. [[http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Ben-10-Alien-Force/Season-03-Episode-009-In-Charm-s-Way-Salman?id=1179 09:43 to 09:34]]

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** The two have a ton of dialogue that sounds suggestive out of context: "I used to talk about what I'd do to you," "Enjoy me while you can!"

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** The two have a ton of dialogue that sounds suggestive out of context: "I used to talk about what I'd do to you," and "Enjoy me while you can!"can!" being prime examples.



** In "What Are Little Girls Made Of", a bored Ben repeatedly clicks the lock button of Kevin's car, eventually (just after the 4-minute mark) annoying Kevin into reaching over and grabbing Ben, causing Ben to get an incredibly gleeful smile on his face. Later (around 9:40 in), when Gwen is in the living room talking to her parents and grandmother, the boys sit at the far end of the couch so close together that they're actually touching. (Not even Gwen's parents are sitting that close, and they're actually a couple!)

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** In "What Are Little Girls Made Of", Of," a bored Ben repeatedly clicks the lock button of Kevin's car, eventually (just after the 4-minute mark) annoying Kevin into reaching over and grabbing Ben, causing Ben to get an incredibly gleeful smile on his face. Later (around 9:40 in), when Gwen is in the living room talking to her parents and grandmother, the boys sit at the far end of the couch so close together that they're actually touching. (Not even Gwen's parents are sitting that close, and they're actually a couple!)



** Notably parodied in "Duped", where one of Ben's duplicates acts like a sulky boyfriend towards Kevin. Kevin is shown to be disturbed to a comical level:

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** Notably parodied in "Duped", "Duped," where one of Ben's duplicates acts like a sulky boyfriend towards Kevin. Kevin is shown to be disturbed to a comical level:



*** Kevin did a lot of Ben-grabbing in "Fused". When Ben goes to push a button, Kevin grabs his wrist to stop him and holds on longer than you'd expect; when Ben needs to be saved from possession, Kevin rushes in with the electrical things and after the ensuing explosion, comes out of it with Ben tucked under his arm.

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*** Kevin did a lot of Ben-grabbing in "Fused". "Fused." When Ben goes to push a button, Kevin grabs his wrist to stop him and holds on longer than you'd expect; when Ben needs to be saved from possession, Kevin rushes in with the electrical things and after the ensuing explosion, comes out of it with Ben tucked under his arm.



** "Fame". When the lights go out, Kevin grabs onto Ben to keep him quiet, [[HandGagging hand over mouth]], leaning over him.

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** "Fame". "Fame." When the lights go out, Kevin grabs onto Ben to keep him quiet, [[HandGagging hand over mouth]], leaning over him.



* In the original series Gwen and Charmcaster, much like Ben and Kevin, had a healthy, or not so healthy, amount of FoeYay, which included an episode where they switched bodies. While their normal FoeYay interactions continued in ''Alien Force'' it wouldn't be till the ''Ultimate Alien'' episode "Where the Magic Happens", that the ship changes from FoeYay to LesYay and takes off.

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* In the original series Gwen and Charmcaster, much like Ben and Kevin, had a healthy, or not so healthy, amount of FoeYay, which included an episode where they switched bodies. While their normal FoeYay interactions continued in ''Alien Force'' it wouldn't be till until the ''Ultimate Alien'' episode "Where the Magic Happens", Happens," that the ship changes from FoeYay to LesYay and takes off.



*** Later in the episode when Charmcaster [[spoiler: decides to stay in Ledgerdomain to fight the evil tyrant Adwatia on her own, after helping open the magic door back to Earth, Gwen becomes distraught and it's not until Ben tells her they will be back to help Charmcaster that she calms down.]]

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*** ** Later in the episode when Charmcaster [[spoiler: decides to stay in Ledgerdomain to fight the evil tyrant Adwatia on her own, after helping open the magic door back to Earth, Gwen becomes distraught and it's not until Ben tells her they will be back to help Charmcaster that she calms down.]]



** Finally in ''Omniverse'', as in the previous series, Gwen seems a bit obsessed with Charmcaster in "Charm School" and tries to get her to see reason after being told by a reformed Hex that there was some good left in her.
** The nature of the ending to "Third Time's a Charm" also raises some eyebrows, which is Gwen's last scene in Omniverse. Gwen [[spoiler: affectionately pats Charmcaster's bag, which has Charmcaster inside. With a wide smile on her face, she tells Kevin she had always wondered if she and Charmcaster could be friends in different circumstances,
and she now knows they will be.]]

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** Finally Finally, in ''Omniverse'', ''Omniverse,'' as in the previous series, Gwen seems a bit obsessed with Charmcaster in Charmcaster. In "Charm School" and School," Gwen tries to get her to see reason after being told by a reformed Hex that there was some good left in her.
** The nature of the ending to "Third Time's a Charm" also raises some eyebrows, which is Gwen's last scene in Omniverse. Gwen [[spoiler: affectionately pats Charmcaster's bag, which has Charmcaster inside. With a wide smile on her face, she tells Kevin she had always wondered if she and Charmcaster could be friends in different circumstances,
circumstances, and she now knows they will be.]]

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