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* Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. In the comics, Two-Face killed Jason's birth father Willis, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker. [[spoiler:Also HeartwarmingInHindsight as ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseBatmanDeathInTheFamily'' confirmed Harvey killed Jason's dad in this universe, too.]]
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* Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. In the comics, Two-Face killed Jason's birth father Willis, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker. [[spoiler:Also Furthermore, Jason calls Two-Face by his real name, Dent, instead of his codename like the rest. [[spoiler:Both are also HeartwarmingInHindsight as ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseBatmanDeathInTheFamily'' confirmed Harvey killed Jason's dad in this universe, too.]]
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* Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. In the comics, Two-Face killed Jason's birth father Willis, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker. [[spoiler:Also HeartwarmingInHindsight as ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseBatmanDeathInTheFamily'' confirmed Harvey killed Jason's dad in this universe, too.]]
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* A small example when Jason lists the supervillains he wouldn't kill off, he calls Two-Face by his real name, Dent, instead of his codename like the rest.
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** That's arguably the most tragic part of the entire conflict. When it comes down to it, Bruce and Jason still clearly love each other, but this difference in ideology is preventing them from reuniting as father and son. This is made more obvious after Jason triggers the bomb to kill them both and the Joker; after getting Joker off him, Bruce completely ignores him in favor of saving Jason.
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** Followed shortly by this darkly heartwarming gem that proves [[spoiler: Jason]] still loves Bruce in his own way: "If it had been you that he had beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage... and sent him off to hell!"
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** Followed shortly by this darkly heartwarming gem that proves [[spoiler: Jason]] Jason still loves Bruce in his own way: "If it had been you that he had beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage... and sent him off to hell!"
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* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Four, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Four, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
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* [[spoiler: Jason]] Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. In the comics, Two-Face killed [[spoiler: Jason's birth father Willis]], Willis, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Four, Hood takes a bullet for Batman.[[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
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* "Bruce I ''forgive'' you [[MyGreatestFailure for not saving me]]."
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** It shows in the earlier fight against Amazo as well. Despite having gone their separate ways as heroes, Batman and Nightwing still battle in perfect tandem, the way they had trained together.
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* [[spoiler: Jason]] pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, In the comics, Two-Face killed [[spoiler: Jason's]] father, Jason's birth father Willis]], and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
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* During Red Hood's introduction scene where he lays out what the new rules for the gang members are and how in exchange for giving him most of the cut he'll protect them from the likes of Black Mask, he specifically states no dealing to children, parks and playgrounds are off limits to everyone. This shows that Red Hood's [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]] right away. He might be willing to kill criminals, but he's still trying to protect the innocent, and wants for the kids of Gotham to be as safe as possible.
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* During Red Hood's introduction scene where he lays out what the new rules for the gang members are and how in exchange for giving him most of the cut he'll protect them from the likes of Black Mask, he specifically states no dealing to children, parks and playgrounds are off limits to everyone. This shows that Red Hood's [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]] right away. He might be willing to kill criminals, but he's still trying to protect the innocent, and wants for the kids of Gotham to be as safe as possible.
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance considering how drugs [[spoiler:ruined Jason's childhood]].
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance considering how drugs [[spoiler:ruined Jason's childhood]].
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* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Four, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]]]
* During Red Hood's introduction scene where he lays out what the new rules for the gang members are and how in exchange for giving him most of the cut he'll protect them from the likes of Black Mask, he specifically states no dealing to children, parks and playgrounds are off limits to everyone. This shows that Red Hood's [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]] right away. He might be willing to kill criminals, but he's still trying to protect the innocent, and wants for the kids of Gotham to be as safe as possible.
* During Red Hood's introduction scene where he lays out what the new rules for the gang members are and how in exchange for giving him most of the cut he'll protect them from the likes of Black Mask, he specifically states no dealing to children, parks and playgrounds are off limits to everyone. This shows that Red Hood's [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]] right away. He might be willing to kill criminals, but he's still trying to protect the innocent, and wants for the kids of Gotham to be as safe as possible.
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* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Five, Four, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
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** Similarly, the scene before the flashback is a bittersweet heartwarming moment. Alfred asks Bruce if, given that Jason has returned from the dead as a murderous lunatic, if Bruce wants Jason's memorial costume in the grave put away. Bruce simply says, "No. This doesn't change anything." Even after all that's happened, Batman will honor Jason's sacrifice.
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** Followed shortly by this darkly heartwarming gem that proves [[spoiler: Jason]] still loves Bruce in his own way: "If it had been you that he had beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage... and sent him off to hell!"
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* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Five, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
* When Red Hood and Batman team up to take on the Fearsome Hand of Five, Hood takes a bullet for Batman. [[spoiler: Even if Jason is furious with Bruce, and may never forgive him for not killing Joker to avenge his death, he still cares about the man who he sees as a father.]]
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** Really the relationship between the two. Dick may not have been in the movie for very long, but during his screentime, there wasn't any tension between him and Bruce. This might imply that they either never had the fight that made Dick leave, and he became Nightwing just because he was getting too old for the Robin thing, or they did have the fight, but they've moved past it.
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* [[spoiler: Jason]] pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, Two-Face killed Jason's [[spoiler: Jason's]] father, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
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* [[spoiler: Jason]] pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, Two=Face Two-Face killed Jason's father, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
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* Jason [[spoiler: Jason]] pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, Two Face Two=Face killed Jason's father, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
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* Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, Two Face killed Jason's father, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
* Jason pointing out that Two-Face, the Scarecrow, and the Penguin have a chance at redemption. If you remember, Two Face killed Jason's father, and yet he'd sooner forgive him than the Joker.
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-->'''Joker:''' Aw, so you ''do'' think about me.
-->'''Joker:''' Aw, so you ''do'' think about me.
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* Ra's al Ghul saying "I've done enough" as Batman leaves. Considering this is Ra's al Ghul we're talking about, this is actually rather touching.touching[[note]]considering that his regret is that he indirectly got Jason Todd killed ''and'' his attempt to make up to Batman for it instead resulted in Jason Todd as the Red Hood[[/note]].
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* Ra's al Ghul saying "I've done enough" as Batman leaves. Considering this is Ra's al Ghul we're talking about, this is actually rather touching.touching.
* The Joker hearing about how much Batman wants to Kill him.
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* The final scene, where a flashback occurs showing Jason's first moments after putting on the Robin suit. Doubles as a [[TearJerker Tear Jerker]] when taking into consideration the [[ForegoneConclusion Foregone Conclusion]].
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* Ra's Al al Ghul saying "I've done enough" as Batman leaves. Considering this is Al Ra's al Ghul we're talking about, this is actually rather touching.
