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*** At the very least, she seems to be able to understand him by the time of the Sequel Trilogy.


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** [[AllThereInTheScript The script apparently has actual translations for every single bit of Wookiee dialogue]]. Why they chose not to present it to the viewer in any coherent fashion is beyond me.


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**** While ''that'' specific instance might no longer be canon, the current canon ''does'' have [[Literature/StarWarsAftermath someone impersonating]] [[Literature/AftermathLifeDebt Boba Fett by]] [[Series/TheMandalorian wearing his abandoned armor.]]
*** Except Han ''already knows Boba Fett personally'' from his time in Jabba's employ, so this explanation doesn't hold water.
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** You're trying to apply logic to this special?
*** If I don't at least make an attempt, my brain tries to turn itself inside out.
*** Watching this special is enough to make my brain try to turn itself inside out.
*** That whole scene is weird. Do they grab magic balls and end up in space and walk into a star and....The folks who wrote this must've been even more stoned than Creator/CarrieFisher!
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*** Perhaps the fact that the Skywalkers are from Tatooine has brought tourists and gentrification?
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** Because Creator/GeorgeLucas is a jerk, and [[WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic reading Wookies yelling at each other that they wish they were adopted and that the other is just a sand-person with hair glued to them would be even more damaging to the Star Wars franchise.]]
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* Seems strange that Han doesn't recognize Boba Fett, seeing as how Fett is supposedly the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter (according to Wookieepedia).

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* Seems strange that Han doesn't recognize Boba Fett, seeing as how Fett is supposedly the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter BountyHunter (according to Wookieepedia).

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** Because George Lucas is a jerk, and [[WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic reading Wookies yelling at each other that they wish they were adopted and that the other is just a sand-person with hair glued to them would be even more damaging to the Star Wars franchise.]]
* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why do everyone in the cantina were so friendly here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?

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** Because George Lucas Creator/GeorgeLucas is a jerk, and [[WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic reading Wookies yelling at each other that they wish they were adopted and that the other is just a sand-person with hair glued to them would be even more damaging to the Star Wars franchise.]]
* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive "a WretchedHive of scum and villainy", then why do is everyone in the cantina were so friendly here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?



** It's the night shift so it's a different group of people, it's established that the night bartender is better liked than the day one so they're more willing to listen, and who would be dumb enough to cross Bea Authur when she has a blaster?

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** It's the night shift so it's a different group of people, it's established that the night bartender is better liked than the day one so they're more willing to listen, and who would be dumb enough to cross Bea Authur Creator/BeaArthur when she has a blaster?



** [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerization]]. It's intended as an all-ages special.



* The show ends with the Wookiees using magic crystal balls to don red Snuggies and travel to where all the other Wookiees are gathered for Life Day. That by itself is relatively acceptable, but how did the rest of the ''StarWars'' cast manage to get there (especially Han, to whom they'd just said goodbye not two minutes earlier)? If he was going to go to the same place, why didn't he just go ''with'' them?

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* The show ends with the Wookiees using magic crystal balls to don red Snuggies and travel to where all the other Wookiees are gathered for Life Day. That by itself is relatively acceptable, but how did the rest of the ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' cast manage to get there (especially Han, to whom they'd just said goodbye not two minutes earlier)? If he was going to go to the same place, why didn't he just go ''with'' them?



*** That whole scene is weird. Do they grab magic balls and end up in space and walk into a star and....The folks who wrote this must've been even more stoned than Carrie Fisher!

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*** That whole scene is weird. Do they grab magic balls and end up in space and walk into a star and....The folks who wrote this must've been even more stoned than Carrie Fisher!Creator/CarrieFisher!



** FridgeBrilliance: Anyone that's ''seen'' Mr Fett in full armor probably isn't going to live long enough to give a detailed description later. Secondly, his armor is iconic to us, and probably incredibly unique to any ''Mando'ad'' who sees him. Non-Mandalorians, however, probably wouldn't be able to tell one suit from another without extensive experience.
*** This is later more or less confirmed when, after Boba's apparent "death", someone impersonates him using one of the few remaining other sets of Mandalorian armor. (That might not be canon anymore, but neither is this.)

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** FridgeBrilliance: Anyone that's ''seen'' Mr Mr. Fett in full armor probably isn't going to live long enough to give a detailed description later. Secondly, his armor is iconic to us, and probably incredibly unique to any ''Mando'ad'' who sees him. Non-Mandalorians, however, probably wouldn't be able to tell one suit from another without extensive experience.
*** This is later more or less confirmed when, after Boba's apparent "death", someone impersonates him using one of the few remaining other sets of Mandalorian armor. (That might not be canon anymore, but neither is this.))
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* Luke can understand binary, but in the cartoon segment, he needs C-3PO to translate R2's speech to him. What?

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* Luke can understand binary, but in the cartoon segment, he needs C-3PO to translate R2's speech to him. What?What?
* The show ends with the Wookiees using magic crystal balls to don red Snuggies and travel to where all the other Wookiees are gathered for Life Day. That by itself is relatively acceptable, but how did the rest of the ''StarWars'' cast manage to get there (especially Han, to whom they'd just said goodbye not two minutes earlier)? If he was going to go to the same place, why didn't he just go ''with'' them?
** You're trying to apply logic to this special?
*** If I don't at least make an attempt, my brain tries to turn itself inside out.
*** Watching this special is enough to make my brain try to turn itself inside out.
*** That whole scene is weird. Do they grab magic balls and end up in space and walk into a star and....The folks who wrote this must've been even more stoned than Carrie Fisher!
* One of the stormtroopers stumbled onto the railing and fell through it. This is the same railing that's supposed to prevent the Wookies (who are clearly larger and heavier) from falling out of their tree homes to the distant ground. Exactly what kind of engineering went into this? Was it all a plot by Mala to [[FridgeHorror kill her irritating child]]?
** Wookies are naturally tree dwelling, they likely need less safety rails than non-tree dwelling species would.
*** That doesn't explain the flimsiness. If they have a railing, presumably they ''need'' it.
* Seems strange that Han doesn't recognize Boba Fett, seeing as how Fett is supposedly the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter (according to Wookieepedia).
** FridgeBrilliance: Anyone that's ''seen'' Mr Fett in full armor probably isn't going to live long enough to give a detailed description later. Secondly, his armor is iconic to us, and probably incredibly unique to any ''Mando'ad'' who sees him. Non-Mandalorians, however, probably wouldn't be able to tell one suit from another without extensive experience.
*** This is later more or less confirmed when, after Boba's apparent "death", someone impersonates him using one of the few remaining other sets of Mandalorian armor. (That might not be canon anymore, but neither is this.)
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** They've also probably been drinking for quite a while and just happen to be extremely friendly drunks.

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** They've also probably been drinking for quite a while and just happen to be extremely friendly drunks.drunks.
* Luke can understand binary, but in the cartoon segment, he needs C-3PO to translate R2's speech to him. What?
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* Speaking of Wookiee language, Why doesn't Chewbacca's family have subtitles for their "dialogue"? There are lots of scenes that revolve around them with no English/Basic speakers present, so subtitles or TranslationConvention should've been in effect.

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* Speaking of Wookiee language, Why why doesn't Chewbacca's family have subtitles for their "dialogue"? There are lots of scenes that revolve around them with no English/Basic speakers present, so subtitles or TranslationConvention should've been in effect.
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* Speaking of Wookiee language, Why don't Chewbacca's family have subtitles for their "dialogue"? There are lots of scenes that revolve around them with no English/Basic speakers present, so subtitles or TranslationConvention should've been in effect.

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* Speaking of Wookiee language, Why don't doesn't Chewbacca's family have subtitles for their "dialogue"? There are lots of scenes that revolve around them with no English/Basic speakers present, so subtitles or TranslationConvention should've been in effect.
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** Because George Lucas is a jerk, and [[WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic reading Wookies yelling at each other that they wish they were adopted and that the other is just a sand-person with hair glued to them would be even more damaging to the Star Wars franchise.]]
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* Why the fuck does this thing exist.
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* Why the hell does this thing exist.

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* Speaking of Wookiee language, Why don't Chewbacca's family have subtitles for their "dialogue"? There are lots of scenes that revolve around them with no English/Basic speakers present, so subtitles or TranslationConvention should've been in effect.
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** It's the night shift so it's a different group of people, it's established that the night bartender is better liked than the day one so they're more willing to listen, and who would be dumb enough to cross Bea Authur when she has a blaster?

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** It's the night shift so it's a different group of people, it's established that the night bartender is better liked than the day one so they're more willing to listen, and who would be dumb enough to cross Bea Authur when she has a blaster?blaster?
** They've also probably been drinking for quite a while and just happen to be extremely friendly drunks.

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*** From what I gathered from the EU, which is admittedly no longer canon, Leia tries to understand Wookie speech but has great difficulty with the language.



** Gentrification.

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** Gentrification.Gentrification.
** It's the night shift so it's a different group of people, it's established that the night bartender is better liked than the day one so they're more willing to listen, and who would be dumb enough to cross Bea Authur when she has a blaster?
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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why do everyone in the cantina were so friendly here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?

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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why do everyone in the cantina were so friendly here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?place?
** Gentrification.
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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why do everyone in the cantina were so nice, peaceful, not agressive and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?

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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why do everyone in the cantina were so nice, peaceful, not agressive and charming friendly here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?
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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why did everyone in the cantina were so nice and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?

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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why did do everyone in the cantina were so nice nice, peaceful, not agressive and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?
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If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why did everyone in the cantina were so nice and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?

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* If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why did everyone in the cantina were so nice and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?
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*** You have to learn languages to understand them. Leia apparently never bothered to learn Chewie's language. Judging by the films I'm not entirely sure she ever learned it.

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*** You have to learn languages to understand them. Leia apparently never bothered to learn Chewie's language. Judging by the films I'm not entirely sure she ever learned it.it.

If Obi-Wan said in the first movie that Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum then why did everyone in the cantina were so nice and charming here? Isn't the cantina supposed to be a more hostile place?
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*** You have to learn languages to understand them. Leia apparently never bothered to learn Chewie's language. Judging by the films I'm not entirely sure she ever learned it, at least not beyond basic emotions.

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*** You have to learn languages to understand them. Leia apparently never bothered to learn Chewie's language. Judging by the films I'm not entirely sure she ever learned it, at least not beyond basic emotions.it.
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*** Luke understands it, Han understands it, Saun Dann understands it... Why does Leia not?

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*** Luke understands it, Han understands it, Saun Dann understands it... Why does Leia not?not?
*** You have to learn languages to understand them. Leia apparently never bothered to learn Chewie's language. Judging by the films I'm not entirely sure she ever learned it, at least not beyond basic emotions.
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** This is actually something that makes ''sense'' in this movie. How can anyone understand what Chewie is saying when his language composes of grunts, howls, and roars? A droid like [=C-3PO=] would be very valuable for people talking to the Wookies.

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** This is actually something that makes ''sense'' in this movie. How can anyone understand what Chewie is saying when his language composes of grunts, howls, and roars? A droid like [=C-3PO=] would be very valuable for people talking to the Wookies.Wookies.
*** Luke understands it, Han understands it, Saun Dann understands it... Why does Leia not?

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* Why?
** $$$$
* Why was C3PO translating wookie language to Leia? Doesn't she understand it as the rest of the galaxy people?
** This is actually something that makes ''sense'' in this movie. How can anyone understand what Chewie is saying when his language composes of grunts, howls, and roars? A droid like C-3PO would be very valuable for people talking to the Wookies.

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* Why?
** $$$$

* Why was C3PO [=C3PO=] translating wookie language to Leia? Doesn't she understand it as the rest of the galaxy people?
** This is actually something that makes ''sense'' in this movie. How can anyone understand what Chewie is saying when his language composes of grunts, howls, and roars? A droid like C-3PO [=C-3PO=] would be very valuable for people talking to the Wookies.
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* Why was C3PO translating wookie language to Leia? Doesn't she understand it as the rest of the galaxy people?

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* Why was C3PO translating wookie language to Leia? Doesn't she understand it as the rest of the galaxy people?people?
** This is actually something that makes ''sense'' in this movie. How can anyone understand what Chewie is saying when his language composes of grunts, howls, and roars? A droid like C-3PO would be very valuable for people talking to the Wookies.
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** $$$$

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** $$$$$$$$
* Why was C3PO translating wookie language to Leia? Doesn't she understand it as the rest of the galaxy people?
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* Why?

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* Why?Why?
** $$$$
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