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** And Esmerelda may have known that it was Frollo's RESPONCABILTY to intervane in situations that like that. (Which is probably why he had to attend the festival in the first place, despite how much he loathes it.) Both refusing to help poor Quasimodo, AND objecting to her intervention, soley because Quasi is deformed (she didn't know of their pre-existing affiliations yet at this point) demonstrates that he's as unfairlly spiteful to the deformed as he is to Gypies. And how he rigged the justice system to benifit himself in that regard. Both of these are used in her speech ("You misstreat this poor boy the SAME way you misstreat my people! You speak of justice, and yet you are CRUEL to those in need of youre help!")
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** Several hours have passed since Esmerelda rescued him from the river and got to the bell tower. Enough time for Frollo to burn large areas of Paris. So she probably had to duck and hide into various places on the way to Notre Dame. This bought her enough time to patch Pheobus' wounds in the back. By the time she got him to the bell tower, the smaller wound in the front is all that was needed attention.
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** And Esmerelda would be betraying her friends and family if she DID take the chance anyway. Frollo still had Pheobus and the gypsies as prisoners, so he was still gonna have THEM executed. Honor before reason is why she spits in Frollo's face (That and the obvious fact that the idea is just disgusting.)
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** Phoebus has also fought in an acctual WAR! Surely he of all people could tell FIGHTING a genuine threat from BEING a genuine threat. Frollo's means of persecuting the public to find ONE gypsy girl is clearly the latter.
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**Plus turning herself in could make matters worse. If she did present herself to Frollo admiting defeat, he wouldn't buy it. He'd suspect she was up to shrewd dispicable strategy of some sort. He IS accussing her of being a witch! He'd prolong his public torture exclusively as a means to interigate her, or worse! All I know is that the LAST THING Frollo would EVER expect from a gypsy, or anyone he's charging of witchcraft, is a GENUINE NO-STRINGS ATTACHED SURENDER.
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*How did the guards know Esmeralda escaped Notre Dame? They couldn't go in without violating church refuge. Pheobus went in and got harshly dismissed by Quasimodo, so the more loyal guards would have met a similar issue with the Archdecon or other priests. Did they dress as church going peasants to investigate, or did they jump to the coincidently accurate (but for the sake of the public, dangerous!) conclusion exclusively by the "Gypsies don't do well inside stone walls" stereotype?
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** It's implied in the movie (and detailed further in the book) that Quasimodo's primary form of recreation is climbing and roof-running. In a sense he's the fictional father of Le Parkour.
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** It's implied in the movie (and detailed further in the book) that Quasimodo's primary form of recreation is climbing and roof-running. In a sense he's the fictional father of Le Parkour.LeParkour.
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* Where did Quasi's mom get buried after she was killed by Frollo?
* Where did Quasi's mom get buried after she was killed by Frollo?
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* Where did Frollo's horse go now that frollo is dead?
* Where did Quasi's mom buried after she was killed by Frollo?
* Where did Quasi's mom buried after she was killed by Frollo?
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** And he's a gypsy. He's used to being persecuted. Sadly a lot of people who have been persecuted will let other suffer to avoid their own suffering. It wasn't until Esmerelda had the courage to defy Frollo that things started to change.
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** The exercise seems to be testing Quasi's literacy by naming the letter and having him come up with a word that starts with said letter.
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** Maybe they underestimated her because she was a woman, like what happened to Esmerelda, and she pulled some trick to get away from them. Frollo just had the other guards take the rest of the gypsies away while hunted her down.
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** The sequel confirms that the Gargoyles are real magical sapient creatures, and ''not'' Quasi's imagination; [[spoiler: At the end,the Gargoyles are sad to lose Quasimodo and hope that Madellaine will take care of him. Then ''Madellaine'' winks at the Gargoyles and tells them she'll take good care of Quasi, causing the shocked Gargoyles do to a literal JawDrop]].
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** The sequel confirms that the Gargoyles are real magical sapient creatures, and ''not'' Quasi's imagination; [[spoiler: At the end,the end, the Gargoyles are sad to lose Quasimodo and hope that Madellaine will take care of him. Then ''Madellaine'' winks at the Gargoyles and tells them she'll take good care of Quasi, causing the shocked Gargoyles do to a literal JawDrop]].
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** Not to mention that Frollo expected better from Phoebus, but sees him as much a [[DisappointedInYou disappointment]] as the previous captain. No wonder he wants to execute him personally.
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** Also of note - Esmerelda gives Quasi the map to the court ''before'' Frollo started his WitchHunt. So maybe she had no reason to think he'd be hung as soon as he got there if he did show up.
** Because in a situation as heated as ''that'', Frollo wasn't using Machiavellian planning skills. He was running on pure adrenaline, hence his PreMortemOneLiner rather than just attacking them.
** Stories like this always leak out somehow. The archdeacon could have told someone who told someone - Frollo killed Quasimodo's mother and was persuaded to raise the child as his own. In the Festival of Fools scene, people clearly know who Quasimodo is, so he's known to the public in some way. Clopin could have embellished a lot of details for the sake of telling a better story.
** Well if you take the entire film as a story by Clopin explaining Quasimodo's origin, you could say that this is dramatic licence on his part.
** At that point, Esmerelda had also told the gypsies he helped her escape from the cathedral. So that's why they would cheer for him as well.
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** The rest of the gypsies and Phoebus would likely be executed next. Quasi would be left alive. And Frollo might face some consequences when the King arrives back from the wars.
** The rest of the gypsies and Phoebus would likely be executed next. Quasi would be left alive. And Frollo might face some consequences when the King arrives back from the wars.
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** If Quasimodo looked too much like a gypsy, his real heritage would've become clear in-universe too quickly.
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** When talking to Phoebus, it's made clear that he thinks Gypsies tempt people into sin -- "their heathen ways inflame the people's lowest instincts" -- and since he wants to "purge the world of vice and sin", he can't tolerate that. This belief also plays an important part in why he [[SanitySlippage starts losing it]] after being attracted to Esmeralda -- he thinks she's tempting him.
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** Or Phoeus ducked around the side of the cathedral and went in through the back door. (It's a wonder no one else considered doing that.)
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** Or Phoeus ducked around the side of the cathedral and went in through the back door. (It's a wonder no one else considered doing that.)
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** As the story take place in 1482, I'll say the "Guerre de Succession de Bourgogne" (War of the Burgundian Succession) that lasted from 1477 to 1482, and involved the royal dynasties of the Valois (Louis XI) vs the Habsburg (Maximilian I).
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** In the book he was also driven mad by loneliness and isolation, as well as having a spoiled brother to take care of. You could take that as canon in the movie to further show him as a {{Foil}} to Quasi - who remained a good person despite growing up in isolation.
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** And the Archdeacon isn't a psychologist. He's concerned with Frollo's soul being saved, and his atonement is caring for the baby. Whatever way Frollo went about it, Quasi was raised to the age of twenty reasonably healthily. Frollo goes from wanting to drop the baby down the well to saying "fine, but let him grow up in the church".
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** Yep, so that's probably a goof. Unless Asia and Asia Minor (modern day Middle East) were counted as separate continents then?
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* Phoebus claims to have done battle across four continents. Weren't only three known to Europe when the movie takes place?
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** As a more mundane answer, Quasi was restrained much differently by the ropes than he was by the chains. During the festival, his head and back were both tied down to the platform with his hands bound together behind him. At the climax, the chains were primarily there to restrain his hands and arms, but even then, they were still relatively free and at his sides, which gave him a lot more maneuverability.
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** As for his shoulder, it's possible that some time had passed in between him getting shot and being taken to the cathedral - Esmeralda didn't have any qualms about leaving him there, even though Quasi is never shown to be knowledgeable about tending to wounds, so it may've already had time to heal enough by that point. She probably realized he was in no condition to keep being moved from place to place like she had to, and so brought him to the only stable place she could thinking of for him to rest until things blew over.
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** Yeah...no. Pay attention to the scene in question; the Archdeacon is shown lifting her in his arms as he tells Frollo to care for Quasi in order to repent. He probably brought her into the church afterward to confirm that she had indeed died.
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** There are a few hints throughout the film that Quasi isn't actually as isolated as Frollo intended for him to be, since both Clopin and several churchgoers possess some knowledge of him, and he has some understanding of religion and why he's required to ring the bells - Frollo intended for him to be kept there just to get him out of the way, so it would seem out of character for him to have taught him that. And finally, along with people's unsavory opinions of the disfigured during those times, Quasi himself indicates that he feels more comfortable living in the belltower, away from everything else. He states during "Out There" that he'd happily remain there indefinitely if he had just one chance to experience the world outside, and in the sequel, after he's been praised as a hero by the people of Paris, he still continues to reside there until he gets together with Madelaine.
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* While I can understand the Archdeacon ordering Frollo to take care of Quasimodo to make up for killing his mother, why did he go so far as to allow Frollo to practically imprison Quasi in the cathedral? I feel that he really should have known that the social isolation on top of Quasi's deformities would have very negative consequences toward the boy's development, and he could've explained Quasi's story to the citizens of Paris so they wouldn't be so cruel to him, so what good did he think shutting him away from the world would do?
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** He was most likely raised by a very strict church, giving him an extreme view of morality. He also adopted a NeverMyFault mentality, blaming any and all impurities or evils he knew of on someone else. He probably chose gypsies to blame most of all because they were a discriminated-against minority who many people feared and mistrusted anyway, he just took it to extremes because he blamed them for "the lower people's faults". In the book, his parents died of the plague, so there's also a possible FreudianExcuse there.
** He was most likely raised by a very strict church, giving him an extreme view of morality. He also adopted a NeverMyFault mentality, blaming any and all impurities or evils he knew of on someone else. He probably chose gypsies to blame most of all because they were a discriminated-against minority who many people feared and mistrusted anyway, he just took it to extremes because he blamed them for "the lower people's faults". In the book, his parents died of the plague, so there's also a possible FreudianExcuse there.
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** He probably knows what it means, but he doesn't want to admit that he's doing it. See, because of his strict religious background, judgemental extremism, and impossible standards of purity, he probably thinks any sexual attraction is wrong, especially so if the object of lust is one of those rotten, vermin gypsies. He's conflicted because he doesn't want to believe or acknowledge his attraction, so he places the blame anywhere else he can. Trying to force Esmerelda to choose him, rather than simply forcing himself on her, is his way of taking the responsibility of his supposedly sinful desires off of himself.
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** See ''Theatre/TheCrucible'' where a good portion of the accused confess to being witches so they won't be executed. Frollo is explicitly saying Esmerelda will be pardoned if she takes him up on his offer.
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** The song "Hellfire" is all about how Frollo has a twisted lust for Esmerelda that he wishes he didn't have. He wants her and at the same time wishes he doesn't. So he's trying to forget his obsession or fight it, because she's a 'heathen' in his eyes. Perhaps this is idealistic but when he made his offer, maybe he would have had her marry him. That would make his lust for her okay to take action on. That's why he makes her an offer when he's literally about to burn her at the stake.
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** Look at all the running and sliding he does in "Out There". He has to amuse himself some way.
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** Look at the context. At the festival, Quasi has just had a brief bit of fun outside pretending to be a man in a mask. At the end, he is facing a friend burning at the stake - a friend who helped him and was kind to him based off who he was as a person. He'd gone through too much CharacterDevelopment to let Esmerelda burn at the stake over something he partially caused.
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** Or more simply, she intended to be at the Court of Miracles for quite a while. So she assumed that she would be there if Quasi turned up needing help. Which she technically was.
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