History Headscratchers / TheDarkKnightTrilogy

* In ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Batman uses the sonic bas attraction signal in his boot to attract the horde of bats only once. Why didn't he ever use it again? There would've been plenty of uses for it, like in the final battle against Bane. Imagine the police charging Bane's men, with an enormous cloud of bats overhead, attacking the terrorists and Batman swooping in and delivering his boots right into Bane's face. That would've been an awesome opener for the fight.

* I suppose here is as good a place as any to put this. We all know that Batman will not kill. However, it's addressed in ''The Dark Knight'' that the criminals have caught on to this and no longer fear Bats anymore, since they know he just won't go that far. Is there anything about this particular version of Batman that would prevent him from successfully pulling off the trick he does in the comics? The one where he takes care to mention that if he ever DID kill, there wouldn't be any evidence of it?

** In the comics at least, Batman gets around this by reminding people that if he did kill someone no one would ever know about it because he's just that good.

** It's realistic mostly in a "physical" sense. As in, it provides physically plausible explanations for concepts that would otherwise seem like cartoony fantasy. (Ie. Explains why Batman can fly through the "memory cloth" explanation used in ''Film/BatmanBegins''.) That, and its "realism" is in the "compared to other superhero movies" sense as was explained earlier.

** Its a small target that is difficult to hit at any range past point-blank, and that's if the target is perfectly still. Batman doesn't stand perfectly still,a nd is constantly moving. He rarely gives his opponents time or a target to even shoot, let alone enough time to draw a bead on his mouth.

* This might be solved in the upcoming third movie but I have trouble believing the League of Shadows has been wiped out. If Ra's claims that they secretly run governments is true then they should still be in heavy operation. If not, they still proved to be an omnious, international terrorist group. It was obviously designed to continue functioning after its leader died so Ra's death should not be a problem. They should still be out there and they should be pretty interested in visiting Gotham again.

** From what has been released, Bane is likely working for or possibly running the League now.A "young" Ra's Al Ghul has been cast for "flashbacks" also.

*** Reese found the irregularities through recognizing RnD equipment from the news. He explicitly points this out to Lucius. At no point is it suggested that Bruce was simply too busy to cover his tracks.

*** That's actually a pretty common problem for the US military. They keep having companies develop or bid on replacements for their stuff, but can't come up with the money to pay to equip every soldier with new gear. One can assume this sort of thing is where a lot of WE's RnD stuff comes from.

* Here's what bugs me: Why is Wayne Industries publicly traded company? AN accountant is shown discovering Batman's identity by looking closely at the books. Wouldn't the dozens (if not hundreds) of people working in finance at a publicly-traded company have discovered the same irregularities? Or their auditors? Or the government? This wouldn't be as big an issue if Batman's identity was already public knowledge. It seems to be one considering that it is not. Why not say it's a privately-held company and move on from there?

* This has always bugged me about Batman in any media (but at least the recent films have corrected it): Batman would need to wear body armor rather than just "dodge bullets." Why haven't the crooks in Gotham have figured that out and started using armor-piercing rounds? Also why doesn't Batman suffer most of his injuries from the kinetic impacts from the bullets that hit him?\\\

** Since Nolan announced it was a trilogy way back in Begins,

** Original Trooper here: Wow. Those are some pretty damn awesome eyes then. Unless its something bad that causes that.

** This was also back in the day when everyone and their mother was getting a kid sidekick. Seriously. DC was crazy-bad with that. Even ''Aquaman'', the joke of DC, got a sidekick. (Though this troper's favorite, just in concept, was Green Arrow's sidekick Speedy who wore red and, much later in the comic, developed a heroin habit. Almost as nutty as that was the Flash's sidekick, who just happened to be involved in nearly the exact same accident hoopla.) The Robin concept's just basically the only one that actually made a permanent mark.

** OK, while this trooper hasn't read as many Batman comics as he would've liked to, nor has he seen the whole of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', there are a few things that seem like easy explanations. First, the attack took place in what seemed like the middle of the day, when bats usually sleep. Second, even if it was night, when Bruce pulled that trick in the first movie, it was in a cramped building that officers were going INTO; the final battle with Bane takes place in the open streets. Third, ignoring that, Bane still had a few tumblers with weapons that could've most likely included flares or flashbang grenades, dismissing the bats quickly. And fourth, as said before, this is a fight in the OPEN STREETS in the DAYLIGHT; odds are, Bruce's stealth tactics wouldn't be as effective. [[SincerityMode Then again, I don't know everything so I could]] [[CriticalResearchFailure be totally wrong in some areas,]] [[SincerityMode in which case, my bad.]]

** The Tumbler has a cloaking function which is capable of turning off street lights in the surrounding area among other things. It's very likely that The Bat has a similar functionality. And even if the police are able to maintain pursuit regardless, he can rely on speed and/or brute force regardless to evade or disable their cars. With the perfect trifecta of speed, stealth ''and'' strength, they don't have a chance.

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* The tumbler and The Bat look cool and all, but how the heck doesn't Batman get caught using those huge things? You have a weird looking bat-shaped jet flying around the city, and no one decides to follow it? As a citizen, wouldn't you find it odd that a strange jet is flying so close to the buildings? Because of the tumbler's size, it's a miracle he doesn't get caught.

*** I think Batman took a Robin not because he needed him for something but essentially to give Dick a chance at having his own revenge. He saw this kid who had his parents killed by criminals in front of him, only without Bruce's resources, and decided that, like him, the boy deserves a payback. Besides, Batman probably realises that he isn't an immortal and doesn't want his accomplishments to die with him, so he raises himself a replacement who needs to 'practice'.

** Because, canon or not, some people are bugged by rational characters like Jim Gordon and the other Gotham cops living in the same universe as Superman and Wonderwoman. The "realism" Nolan is trying to establish conflicts with anything with super-powered characters. Granted the Nolanverse is still really darn unrealistic, but compared to previous incarnations of Batman and anything with superpowered heroes ... you can finish this for me right? Metropolis is a great world, and the Justice League comics are fantastic, but it doesn't bug me that we have at least a few incarnations of Batman that are separate from the rest of the DC universe.

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** Because viewers know what a SWAT team is but wouldn't know what the hell ESU means.

*** You say that Nolan Batman only uses lethal force when necessary, the problem is none of the films ever established that. The only thing that was ever established is that he won't kill, the films never qualified that by adding that he will kill when necessary. A story arc or just a line about him realizing that it's ridiculously idealistic to expect to be able to fight crime without ever using lethal force and that sometimes lethal force is necessary would have been great, but because the films failed to do anything like that, Nolan Batman comes off like a hypocrite as as a result. As for Burton Batman, you describe his actions as "murder", but most of the time he isn't depicted as going out his way to kill people. The only time he actually expressed killing intent was when he threatened to kill the Joker, and as you said, the way Joker went out was arguably an accident. I would argue that most of the deaths he's responsible for are collateral damage as aside from the aforementioned death threat, there's nothing in either film that establishes that he's deliberately going after criminals with killing intent. It also helps that Burton Batman never established a non-killing policy so there's at least no hypocrisy when he does end up killing people unlike Nolan Batman.

*** You say that Nolan Batman only uses lethal force when necessary, the problem is none of the films ever established that. The only thing that was ever established is that he won't kill, the films never qualified that by adding that he will kill when necessary. A story arc or just a line about him realizing that it's ridiculously idealistic to expect to be able to fight crime without ever using lethal force and that sometimes lethal force is necessary would have been great, but because the films failed to do anything like that, Nolan Batman comes off like a hypocrite as as a result. As for Burton Batman, you describe his actions as "murder", but most of the time he isn't depicted as going out his way to kill people. The only time he actually expressed killing intent was when he threatened to kill the Joker, and as you said, the way Joker went out was arguably an accident. I would argue that most of the deaths he's responsible for are collateral damage as aside from the aforementioned death threat, there's nothing in either film that establishes that he's deliberately going after criminals with killing intent.

* How does the Government view Batman in the Nolan universe? In Man of Steel, they are super paranoid and afraid of Superman. How would/do they view an ordinary human running around, taking manners in his own hands?