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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith, I just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.

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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly desperately try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith, I just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.
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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith, just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.

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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith, I just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.
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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith i just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.

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*** I'm one of these guys that keeps the internet connection running, we desperatly try to keep those villages online. My point is, the connection does not work that way. 10.000 people should be enough to guarantee a 1000, at least, to experience loss of connection for more than the grace period. "Has really good wifi" can't be an excuse. Considering needed bandwith i bandwith, just hope people playing had 24h support for an FTTH, Fibre to the Home, Glass fibre cable into your appartment, connection. Else they are toast.
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** It's already established that AMUsphere does not have the means to kill. Or heck cause bodily harm. Why do you insist that any government should investigate the death of two foreigners of no political and social standings who died in their own country just because of an internet rumor that someone saw someone with the cliched ign of "Death Gun" shoot their in-game avatars on the day they probably died in a game where the servers are located on home soil, when it's not only the responsibility of said foreign country, but that the victims are the extreme type of hardcore gamers who go 5 days straight without food or sleep which obviously took a toll on their health? [[spoiler: Also note that succinylcholine [[http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/05/the-history-of-sux-the-worlds-most-discrete-murder-weapon/ is an incredibly effective murder weapon that is lethal, act fast, and extremely difficult to detect. Succinylcholine cases were solved with other witness evidence, because it is so hard to detect and what's detected is often circumstantial. Even if the police did conduct a an autopsy it would have made no difference.]]]]

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** It's already established that AMUsphere does not have the means to kill. Or heck cause bodily harm. Why do you insist that any government should investigate the death of two foreigners of no political and social standings who died in their own country just because of an internet rumor that someone saw someone with the cliched ign of "Death Gun" shoot their in-game avatars on the day they probably died in a game where the servers are located on home soil, when it's not only the responsibility of said foreign country, but that the victims are the extreme type of hardcore gamers who go 5 days straight without food or sleep which obviously took a toll on their health? [[spoiler: Also note that succinylcholine [[http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/05/the-history-of-sux-the-worlds-most-discrete-murder-weapon/ is an incredibly effective murder weapon that is lethal, act fast, and extremely difficult to detect. Succinylcholine cases were solved with other witness evidence, because it is so hard to detect and what's detected is often circumstantial. Even if the police did conduct a an autopsy it would have made no difference.]]]]
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*** Which Sugo rushed to fix once he found out players were trying CrazyAwesome stunts, but it was too late.

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*** Which Sugo rushed to fix once he found out players were trying CrazyAwesome RuleOfCool stunts, but it was too late.
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** He doesn't remember his exact ''motives'', no, but there is a very specific reason for invoking the Death Game: a world without death is not truly ''real''. Kayaba didn't merely want to create a facsimile of the Steel Castle in the Sky he'd always dreamed of, he wanted to make it real. Not having true RealityWarper powers, a game wherein logging out was impossible and death meant FinalDeath was the closest he could come. A twisted idea, perhaps, but actually logical from a certain point of view.

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** He doesn't remember his exact ''motives'', no, but there is a very specific reason for invoking the Death Game: a world without death is not truly ''real''. Kayaba didn't merely want to create a facsimile of the Steel Castle in the Sky he'd always dreamed of, he wanted to make it real. Not having true RealityWarper powers, a game wherein logging out was impossible and death meant FinalDeath being KilledOffForReal was the closest he could come. A twisted idea, perhaps, but actually logical from a certain point of view.
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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"

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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}'', ''WebVideo/BeatriceTheGoldenWitch'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"
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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"

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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}'', ''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"
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** Who says they didn't? We only see two married couples, Grimrock/Griselda and Kirito/Asuna. They treated it as real, but other players might not have. Kirito has always been big on the whole "treat games as you would real life in order to avert {{GIFT}}" thing, so he's not the best example.

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** Who says they didn't? We only see two married couples, Grimrock/Griselda and Kirito/Asuna. They treated it as real, but other players might not have. Kirito has always been big on the whole "treat games as you would real life in order to avert {{GIFT}}" [[ForumSpeak G.I.F.T]]" thing, so he's not the best example.
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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"

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* Does this really need elaboration? You can't log out during Bullet of Bullets? For what conceivable reason would that rule possibly be in place other than as a plot device to inconvenience the protagonists? And for that matter, why are they even ''allowed'' to disable that? In the immortal words of ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'', ''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}'', "How many people have to die before this shit becomes illegal!?"
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Kayaba was a Magnificent Bastard. Him being a Complete Monster like Sugou, the Laughing Coffin trio, Quinella, and Gabriel, would never work.


With all of the above, no, Kayaba is not a Complete Monster. Oh, sure, he was an antagonist, a "villain", but he was not evil, not even close to that. If anything, he had an unusual (or maybe not so unusual ...) dream and a weird way of fulfilling it, but there was no malice in what he did; he just chose to pursue his dream no matter what other people thought about it. Can you hate someone like that?\\\\

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With all of the above, no, Kayaba is a Magnificent Bastard and not a Complete Monster. Oh, sure, he was an antagonist, a "villain", but he was not evil, not even close to that. If anything, he had an unusual (or maybe not so unusual ...) dream and a weird way of fulfilling it, but there was no malice in what he did; he just chose to pursue his dream no matter what other people thought about it. Can you hate someone like that?\\\\
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** Kayaba had presumably told them that there was a way to escape so condoned mass murder would likely result in huge societal outrage. That said, there are a number of bridge options before pulling the plug. For example, the government could probably find an office building or something that they could transfer the patients to which, hopefully, would not be as expensive as a full hospital suite. They don't need a lot of specialized equipment and while there are some sanitation concerns that you'd need to adapt the office to, it shouldn't be insanely difficult to make such accommodations.
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* It would seem to me that a reasonable government would treat the ALO survivors like students in the grade they were paused at - after all, the government assigned them to a special school to complete their education. It would seem to me that in a sane world, if you put "ALO Survivor" on your University application, aside from possible biases we see against veterans, the Universities should still treat you as an equal student. And then there's the fact that Asuna has a giant leadership bullet on her resume having been Vice Commander of the strongest guild which, crucially, was the driving group for ending SAO and whose membership includes the man who was successful in doing so. Obviously, these assumptions are all limited by the whims of individuals and their individual biases and maybe there's a cultural disconnect I'm missing and a mother terrified that The Plan has been shredded into confetti is far from a unique concept, but it feels like Asuna has a solid argument of why her future is no where near as in jeopardy as the Mother Rosario arc might suggest.
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** Example of how it can pass inspection can be found in cases like the VW emissions scandal
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** Consider how much power Yui possesses in the real world and Yui is a limited AI compared to Quinella who acts only to defend her family. A malicious AI who can break firewalls and is extremely effective at manipulation.... that's a little terrifying. All she needs is her partner to get her online and she can plant honey traps everywhere.
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** I think Sachi is the bigger starting point. Yeah, she's forgotten by that point but I believe you can trace his ChronicHeroSyndrome back to Sachi. He carries the burden of believing himself responsible for their death for a long time and while it is somewhat integrated into his personality but the weight of death carries with him for a long time afterwards. We see multiple instances where he *has* to save people - the floor 74 boss, rushing to Sinon's house, pushing Asuna away when Johnny Black attacks him, saving Selka, etc. We see his trauma as he comes to terms with murdering people - he freaks out when he meets Death Gun and he flashes back to that time and kicks himself for forgetting about it. And now, after 2 years of bonding, watching his best friend, this neuroses of taking all of these heroics and carrying it on his shoulders cripples him. And while he would have been able to get past it by digging deeper into this neurosis, because he got shocked, he got stuck
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** There is also the fact that Glowgen was hired by the NSA for it specifically ''because'' they were a deniable asset. If it didn't work, then the NSA could disavow any knowledge of what they were up to. Keep in mind, just because you know that the other guys did something, doesn't mean you can ''prove'' it, and a black op like this would require damning proof.

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* Also, hospitals in industrialized nations are required to perform HIV screenings on all donated blood, so the hospital staff should've known right away that it was infected, and given them blood that they knew was safe. Either the hospital staff bought their medical licenses from the black market, or knew that the blood was infected and just didn't give a shit about the consequences.

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** It was established that she, specifically, had a strain that was especially drug resistant. As for her family, they probably had a strain that was similarly drug resistant and the fact is that the drugs that did work could have been too expensive to afford over time, even ''with'' insurance.
* Also, hospitals in industrialized nations are required to perform HIV screenings on all donated blood, so the hospital staff should've known right away that it was infected, and given them blood that they knew was safe. Either the hospital staff bought their medical licenses from the black market, or knew that the blood was infected and just didn't give a shit about the consequences. consequences.
** It heavily depends on how recent the infection was. Someone who was infected less than six months ago has a fairly high chance to come up negative as the HIV antibodies haven't sufficiently percolated through that a screening will normally detect it.
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* First, you are assuming that no one was trying. You are also making the erroneous assumption that the connections didn't have their own security algorithm. Even a fairly low cost security algorithm would take the best supercomputers in the world ''years at best'' to brute force open unless they got lucky for just one. Especially if it is one that was purpose made. Who's to say that they weren't trying? Most of what goes behind a successful hack is social engineering and taking advantage of the one weakness of any software security, the users themselves. Kirito could hack from inside, yes, but that was ''from inside''. Even then, he only had a short period of time and he was more focused on ensuring Yui wasn't deleted, rather than getting everyone out due to his own mental state at the time.


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** Who's to say they were stolen? For all we know, a lot of negotiations went on behind the scenes for this and it was left out of the movie simply because it wasn't pertinent to the plot.
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** There is also the fact that, after a while, they mat simply not notice it until they focused their attention on it. The data is always there, they can see it, but they naturally filtered it out as a part of the background over time because it's always there. It's any ''changes'' to it, whether it's the numbers on it changing, the health bar changing color, and other signs that they may want to pay attention to it, that draw their attention. The light novels and anime don't go over it, but I wouldn't be surprised that getting used to it being always there took a little bit of time. You see this in the real world all the time. Look around as you walk on a route you take every day and pay attention to everything you see and you would be shocked at how many details you miss simply because you're not normally focused on them.
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** It was stated that during the first two weeks, the ten minute window for no power or connection was extended by Kayaba specifically for the purpose of getting all those trapped in SAO to hospitals.
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Dewicking Too Soon [1]


** That still doesn't explain why TooSoon didn't seem to exist when ALO was first released. I don't care how much RECT marketed the safety of their games. It would be PR suicide to not only release a game that is essentially a spinoff of the game that had kidnapped and killed thousands of people but to also released it while the incident was still happening. Why wasn't there any public outcry against what can only be described as apathy by publisher?

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** That still doesn't explain why TooSoon DistancedFromCurrentEvents didn't seem to exist when ALO was first released. I don't care how much RECT marketed the safety of their games. It would be PR suicide to not only release a game that is essentially a spinoff of the game that had kidnapped and killed thousands of people but to also released it while the incident was still happening. Why wasn't there any public outcry against what can only be described as apathy by publisher?
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* So the mirror in SAO is supposed to reformat your avatar's appearance to look exactly like your IRL one, right? We totally see that with Kirito, Klein, Asuna, and just about everybody else... except Liz, who for some reason, is a RoseHairedGirl in-game, but is a brunette IRL. She has this difference with no real explanation (at least in the series). Does the Light Novel have an explanation for this? Is it that her hair was dyed when she logged in, and just wore off before we see her at school? Is it that she found some in-game hair dye between the first episode and the time we first see her? Is it a production error? If you can get away with red heads like Asuna and Klein, why not Liz? Sort of just bugs me that everybody looks exactly like their mirrored avatars IRL, except for Liz.

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* So the mirror in SAO is supposed to reformat your avatar's appearance to look exactly like your IRL one, right? We totally see that with Kirito, Klein, Asuna, and just about everybody else... except Liz, who for some reason, is a RoseHairedGirl [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair rose-haired]] in-game, but is a brunette IRL. She has this difference with no real explanation (at least in the series). Does the Light Novel have an explanation for this? Is it that her hair was dyed when she logged in, and just wore off before we see her at school? Is it that she found some in-game hair dye between the first episode and the time we first see her? Is it a production error? If you can get away with red heads like Asuna and Klein, why not Liz? Sort of just bugs me that everybody looks exactly like their mirrored avatars IRL, except for Liz.
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* If Quinella had escaped into the real world, what would she have done? Especially tegarding her interactions with [[spoiler:Yanai]].
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* [=XeXeeD's=] plan to win the second [=BoB=] simply came down to convincing everybody else about how much of a GameBreaker the AGI build was before the Nerf hit, allowing him with his STR/VIT build to get a major edge over anyone who fell for it. But that begs the question; how DID he know about the Nerf? Based on the fact that every possible threat, [=BoB=] participants who were likely hardcore GGO players, fell for it and started using AGI builds then that implies that the Nerf wasn't public knowledge since nobody would have fell for it otherwise.

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** I think it's because this season is only adapting one arc while season 1 adapted 2 arcs and season 2 adapted 3 arcs.
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** Sure the Glowgen force went incognito, but wouldn't it make the headlines that a senior executive of a prolific arms dealer disappeared or more likely, a cover story by the US government? If anything, this should develop into a conspiracy theory.

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Since Gabriel and Vassago [[spoiler:were subjected to [[FateWorseThanDeath fates worse than death]] and their bodies stuck in eternal [=FullDive=]]], wouldn't that provoke war or some level of action towards the JSDF and Kirito? Especially since one of them is the CTO of a prominent arms supplier? The argument ''can'' be made that Gabriel and his team were under non-official cover, but still, such a loss would have gained public attention. At the very least, shouldn't Kirito be in big trouble for his actions in Underworld, PTSD or no? [[spoiler:Given that Seijirou is 'officially' dead, there's no one influential enough to protect him from the government or military, not even Asuna's father]].

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* Since Gabriel and Vassago [[spoiler:were subjected to [[FateWorseThanDeath fates worse than death]] and their bodies stuck in eternal [=FullDive=]]], wouldn't that provoke war or some level of action towards the JSDF and Kirito? Especially since one of them is the CTO of a prominent arms supplier? The argument ''can'' be made that Gabriel and his team were under non-official cover, but still, such a loss would have gained public attention. At the very least, shouldn't Kirito be in big trouble for his actions in Underworld, PTSD or no? [[spoiler:Given that Seijirou is 'officially' dead, there's no one influential enough to protect him from the government or military, not even Asuna's father]].father]].
** Who would he be in trouble with? The Japanese government, aka the people he just saved from an invasion by a foreign power? They'd be hailing him as a hero if anything (which, IIRC, is exactly what happened). He'd probably have the entire JSDF going to bat for him, with or without Kikuoka. As for America, they'd never be able to raise any sort of diplomatic stink about the incident without being forced to admit that they'd essentially invaded Japan without provocation by sending Gabriel and his people there to begin with. That'd be enough to cause a diplomatic incident regardless of any involvement on Kirito's part. Not to mention they probably didn't even know about Kirito since neither of the agents that knew about him made it out of the incident alive.
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** The guys who would be looking into it were the same people trying to coordinate re-integrating 5,800 other people into society: the Ministry of Internal Affairs Virtual Division. Kikuoka admits that the Ministry dropped the ball with the forum post, and by the time they determined it was a lead worth following, Kirito had already rescued Asuna.
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Since Gabriel and Vassago [[spoiler:were subjected to [[FateWorseThanDeath fates worse than death]] and their bodies stuck in eternal [=FullDive=]]], wouldn't that provoke war or some level of action towards the JSDF and Kirito? Especially since one of them is the CTO of a prominent arms supplier? The argument ''can'' be made that Gabriel and his team were under non-official cover, but still, such a loss would have gained public attention. At the very least, shouldn't Kirito be in big trouble for his actions in Underworld, PTSD or no? [[spoiler:Given that Seijirou is 'officially' dead, there's no one influential enough to protect him from the government or military, not even Asuna's father]].

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