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*** I mean, if we're going that direction, then Oki being on the Okami HD cover and the title screen is also a spoiler that Oni Island isn't the final dungeon and the "Dark Lord" isn't actually the final boss, too.
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** This troper theorizes the localization just [[CutAndPasteTranslation wasn't very good]], due to several glaring errors in the text. Of course, he's never played the Japanese version, so who knows...
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** This troper theorizes the localization just [[CutAndPasteTranslation wasn't very good]], good, due to several glaring errors in the text. Of course, he's never played the Japanese version, so who knows...
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* Given that the end of the game reveals that [[spoiler:Kuni was narrating the entire game, did some of those inconsistencies and continuity errors be just him just [[UnreliableNarrator misremembering]] some things that were from the first game?]] That would probably make a lot more sense if it did.
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* Given that the end of the game reveals that [[spoiler:Kuni was narrating the entire game, did some of those inconsistencies and continuity errors be just him just [[UnreliableNarrator misremembering]] some things that were from within the first game?]] That would probably make a lot more sense if it did.
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I think that it's possible that Ōkamiden is an alternate universe, where Shiranui and Ammy are separate beings, and Shiranui is male.
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* Given that the end of the game reveals that [[spoiler:Kuni was narrating the entire game, did some of those inconsistencies and continuity errors be just him just [[UnreliableNarrator misremembering]] some things that were from the first game?]] That would probably make a lot more sense if it did.
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* When Akuro does his attack projectiles on Kamiki Village + other parts of the world (apparently), why don't Chibiterasu or Shiranui try to powerslash those dark projectiles back? Well, maybe I can get Chibi cause he's kinda weak when it comes to brushwork, but Shiranui's at his/her peak and apparently had enough energy to jump high enough and take that attack. It's not like that one was too big to slash. Unless there was something about the dark projectile Akuro fired that I'm missing, it feels to me like Shiranui didn't have to make that sacrifice there.
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* When Akuro does his attack projectiles on Kamiki Village + other parts of the world (apparently), why don't Chibiterasu or Shiranui try to powerslash those dark projectiles back? Well, maybe I can get Chibi cause he's kinda weak when it comes to brushwork, but Shiranui's at his/her peak and apparently had enough energy to jump high enough and take that attack. It's not like that one was too big to slash. Unless there was something about the dark projectile Akuro fired that I'm missing, it feels to me like Shiranui didn't have to make that sacrifice there.there.
I think that it's possible that Ōkamiden is an alternate universe, where Shiranui and Ammy are separate beings, and Shiranui is male.
I think that it's possible that Ōkamiden is an alternate universe, where Shiranui and Ammy are separate beings, and Shiranui is male.
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* At the end of Okami, Waka goes to the Celestial Plain with Ammy. In Okamiden, Chibi doesn't seem to know who Waka is or even what he looks like until he's shown by the Knowing Jewel. An oversight by the developers? Or a sign of something else?
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* At the end of Okami, Waka goes to the Celestial Plain with Ammy. In Okamiden, Chibi doesn't seem to know who Waka is or even what he looks like until he's shown by the Knowing Jewel. An oversight by the developers? Or a sign of something else?else?
* When Akuro does his attack projectiles on Kamiki Village + other parts of the world (apparently), why don't Chibiterasu or Shiranui try to powerslash those dark projectiles back? Well, maybe I can get Chibi cause he's kinda weak when it comes to brushwork, but Shiranui's at his/her peak and apparently had enough energy to jump high enough and take that attack. It's not like that one was too big to slash. Unless there was something about the dark projectile Akuro fired that I'm missing, it feels to me like Shiranui didn't have to make that sacrifice there.
* When Akuro does his attack projectiles on Kamiki Village + other parts of the world (apparently), why don't Chibiterasu or Shiranui try to powerslash those dark projectiles back? Well, maybe I can get Chibi cause he's kinda weak when it comes to brushwork, but Shiranui's at his/her peak and apparently had enough energy to jump high enough and take that attack. It's not like that one was too big to slash. Unless there was something about the dark projectile Akuro fired that I'm missing, it feels to me like Shiranui didn't have to make that sacrifice there.
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* Am I the only one who was a tad disappointed we didn't get to see Chibi reunite with his mother at the ending? I mean, come on! He and his grandfather Shiranui have a brief bonding moment, why not him and his mother who was the protagonist of the ''first game''? I mean, it's not a major complaint and doesn't take away from the game, but it could have been a nice CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. I don't know, I just think it could have been cute.
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* Am I the only one who was a tad disappointed we didn't get to see Chibi reunite with his mother at the ending? I mean, come on! He and his grandfather Shiranui have a brief bonding moment, why not him and his mother who was the protagonist of the ''first game''? I mean, it's not a major complaint and doesn't take away from the game, but it could have been a nice CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}. I don't know, I just think it could have been cute.
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** It's one of his tics
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** It's one of his tics
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** Chibi is a puppy, he's not going to think of something like that.
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** Chibi is a puppy, he's not going to think of something like that.that.
* At the end of Okami, Waka goes to the Celestial Plain with Ammy. In Okamiden, Chibi doesn't seem to know who Waka is or even what he looks like until he's shown by the Knowing Jewel. An oversight by the developers? Or a sign of something else?
* At the end of Okami, Waka goes to the Celestial Plain with Ammy. In Okamiden, Chibi doesn't seem to know who Waka is or even what he looks like until he's shown by the Knowing Jewel. An oversight by the developers? Or a sign of something else?
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** Well, to me, the shortened names seem to come naturally or easily. Like, I could see myself shortening those names that way if the game didn't; not so much for the other names. That could just be me being weird, but maybe they felt the same way?
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* Is there any logical explanation for Chibi not using the Lucky Hammer on himself to make himself lighter, rather than leaving it behind on the ship? I have to imagine that his weight would change along with his size (because, otherwise, it would've been monumentally uncomfortable for the emperor to have Ammy running around inside of him in Okami). I mean, yeah, the developers needed a way to keep the mallet on the sunken ship, but it doesn't seem to make any sense within universe.
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* Is there any logical explanation for Chibi not using the Lucky Hammer on himself to make himself lighter, rather than leaving it behind on the ship? I have to imagine that his weight would change along with his size (because, otherwise, it would've been monumentally uncomfortable for the emperor to have Ammy running around inside of him in Okami). I mean, yeah, the developers needed a way to keep the mallet on the sunken ship, but it doesn't seem to make any sense within
** Chibi is a puppy, he's not going to think of something like that.
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*** It is worth noting that in the actual Shinto mythology that Amaterasu is from she did have multiple children technically without father by chewing up pieces of a sword given to her by Susano, much as he did with jewels that he got from her. So a fatherless Chibi is far from off the table.
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* The ending for ''{{Okami}}'' rather unsubtly established that not only would there be a sequel, but that it would involve Amaterasu purifying and reclaiming the Celestial Plain. So why isn't this '''that''' sequel, and will we ever see that one?
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* The ending for ''{{Okami}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' rather unsubtly established that not only would there be a sequel, but that it would involve Amaterasu purifying and reclaiming the Celestial Plain. So why isn't this '''that''' sequel, and will we ever see that one?
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* Like in {{Okami}}, in the US most of the original names are shortened. I always wondered: what's the logic in that? Are Ushiwaka or Kuninushi [[ViewersAreGoldfish too long to remember]]? Why do they shorten Tamaya into Tama but let Sakuya and Susano as such? And why do they abridge the four-syllable Izanagi into Nagi but let the five-syllable Amaterasu alone? There doesn't seem to be any logic in that…
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* Like in {{Okami}}, VideoGame/{{Okami}}, in the US most of the original names are shortened. I always wondered: what's the logic in that? Are Ushiwaka or Kuninushi [[ViewersAreGoldfish too long to remember]]? Why do they shorten Tamaya into Tama but let Sakuya and Susano as such? And why do they abridge the four-syllable Izanagi into Nagi but let the five-syllable Amaterasu alone? There doesn't seem to be any logic in that…
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* What happened to the most of the music from the first game? It seems like the music for some of the characters and locations from {{Okami}} have been replaced with SuspiciouslySimilarSong of the original.
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* What happened to the most of the music from the first game? It seems like the music for some of the characters and locations from {{Okami}} VideoGame/{{Okami}} have been replaced with SuspiciouslySimilarSong of the original.
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*** I think they had to make Okamiden's world from scratch, there's no way they could port it directly from the PS2/Wii. I highly, ''highly'' doubt money was an issue.
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*** I think they had to make Okamiden's world from scratch, there's no way they could port it directly from the PS2/Wii.[=PS2=]/Wii. I highly, ''highly'' doubt money was an issue.
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* Like in {{Okami}}, in the US most of the original names are shortened. I always wondered: what's the logic in that? [[ViewersAreMorons Are Ushiwaka or Kuninushi]] [[ViewersAreGoldfish too long to remember]]? Why do they shorten Tamaya into Tama but let Sakuya and Susano as such? And why do they abridge the four-syllable Izanagi into Nagi but let the five-syllable Amaterasu alone? There doesn't seem to be any logic in that…
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* Like in {{Okami}}, in the US most of the original names are shortened. I always wondered: what's the logic in that? [[ViewersAreMorons Are Ushiwaka or Kuninushi]] Kuninushi [[ViewersAreGoldfish too long to remember]]? Why do they shorten Tamaya into Tama but let Sakuya and Susano as such? And why do they abridge the four-syllable Izanagi into Nagi but let the five-syllable Amaterasu alone? There doesn't seem to be any logic in that…
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* Why did they remove the ink regenerating? I mean, it's not that inconvenient from a gameplay perspective, but it ''is'' inconvenient from a design perspective! They need to put ink bottles ''everywhere'' to minimze your risk of running out, and there's ''still'' a chance of it happening, so they had to ''put in a redo function!'' Why did they do this? It doesn't improve the game, and made it harder to make!
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* Why did they remove the ink regenerating? I mean, it's not that inconvenient from a gameplay perspective, but it ''is'' inconvenient from a design perspective! They need to put ink bottles ''everywhere'' to minimze minimize your risk of running out, and there's ''still'' a chance of it happening, so they had to ''put in a redo function!'' Why did they do this? It doesn't improve the game, and made it harder to make!
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* Who wrote the script for this game!? It can't agree with itself whether Shiranui and Amaterasu are the same being, the same goes for Akuro and Yami, and people sometimes know thigs they shouldn't! I could have done a better job...
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* Who wrote the script for this game!? It can't agree with itself whether Shiranui and Amaterasu are the same being, the same goes for Akuro and Yami, and people sometimes know thigs things they shouldn't! I could have done a better job...
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*** Why shouldn't [[spoiler: Manpuku]] be on the cover? Sure [[spoiler: he livved 100 years before the rest of the party]], but he still played an important role.
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*** Why shouldn't [[spoiler: Manpuku]] be on the cover? Sure [[spoiler: he livved lived 100 years before the rest of the party]], but he still played an important role.
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** RetCon out since the game developers realised that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.
* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
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** RetCon out since the game developers realised realized that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.
* Why doesKurou Kurow keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
* Why does
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* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
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* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?everything?
*Is there any logical explanation for Chibi not using the Lucky Hammer on himself to make himself lighter, rather than leaving it behind on the ship? I have to imagine that his weight would change along with his size (because, otherwise, it would've been monumentally uncomfortable for the emperor to have Ammy running around inside of him in Okami). I mean, yeah, the developers needed a way to keep the mallet on the sunken ship, but it doesn't seem to make any sense within universe.
*Is there any logical explanation for Chibi not using the Lucky Hammer on himself to make himself lighter, rather than leaving it behind on the ship? I have to imagine that his weight would change along with his size (because, otherwise, it would've been monumentally uncomfortable for the emperor to have Ammy running around inside of him in Okami). I mean, yeah, the developers needed a way to keep the mallet on the sunken ship, but it doesn't seem to make any sense within universe.
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** Because Chibi isn't as powerful as Ammy. It's sort of like an inverse CompetenceZone; the older the gods are, the more powerful they are.
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*** As far as I recall, Shiranui was referred to as "he" in the first game too, and he does have more masculine features. Since both Shiranui and Amaterasu are just possessing wolf statues, rather than actually being wolves themselves, it might be that Shiranui possessed the statue of a male wolf and Amaterasu possessed the statue of a female wolf.
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** RetCon out since the game developers realised that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.
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** RetCon out since the game developers realised that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.thing.
* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
* Why does Kurou keep twirling his damn flute to emphasize half of everything?
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** And if that evil is so strong, it wins, then a new hero will emerge to balance that evil out.
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** Or maybe the DS can not process the music from a Wii game??
* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previousgame?game?
** RetCon out since the game developers realised that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.
* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous
** RetCon out since the game developers realised that there was no point having an Ice God when a Water God could easily fill the same role. After all, ice and water are the same thing.
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** Well... one of the composers from the original game returned (Rei Kondo), so maybe, for the melodies he didn't originally compose, he did his own takes of those melodies. IIRC, some of his melodies which he composed originally were used again, like the Moon Cave music (although somewhat different), the Orochi battle music, between others, maybe.
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* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous game?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's ''son'', as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's ''son'', as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous game?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's ''son'', as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?game?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's ''son'', as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's <i>son</i>, as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's <i>son</i>, ''son'', as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of Okami, right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's SON, as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of Okami, ''{{Okami}}'', right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's SON, <i>son</i>, as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous game?game?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of Okami, right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's SON, as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
* Okay, this game is supposed to take place nine months after the events of Okami, right? Then how the hell is Kuni, Susano and Kushi's SON, as old as he is? Shouldn't he be an infant? If that? How is he the same age as Mushi?
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* What happened to the most of the music from the first game? It seems like the music for some of the characters and locations from {{Okami}} have been replaced with [[TheJimmyHartVersion Jimmy Harts]] of the original.
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* What happened to the most of the music from the first game? It seems like the music for some of the characters and locations from {{Okami}} have been replaced with [[TheJimmyHartVersion Jimmy Harts]] SuspiciouslySimilarSong of the original.
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** Everything was chibi-fied?chibi-fied?
* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous game?
* Did anyone else go throughout most of the game without realizing That anything ice-related in a battle can be used as a source of water? Seriously, Where were Itegami along with a few of the other brush gods from the previous game?
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** Various mythologies have showcased deities birthing divine offspring without sexual intercourse. As the Goddess of Life and Mother of All it wouldn't be hard for Ammy to perform parthenogenesis.
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*** Akuro being Yami's son/reborn essence also fits with the GenerationXerox theme the game revolves around, so it's very likely Akuro is indeed Yami's successor. The Shiranui/Ammy part can also be a translation mistake, though one can consider one's former incarnation as his or her 'father' in a very abstract sense, as you were 'born' from the death of the former incarnation.
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**** Not according to the retcon. Same being, but opposite gender due to revival for some odd reason.
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**** Because that would spoil things that happen later in the game. Like how [[spoiler: The Underground Ruins isn't the last dungeon. And that there's another party member.]] I like him and all, but it's still a spoiler.
