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* In "Requiem for a Dead Barber", why couldn't Al just ask a random guy with a decent haircut where he got it cut? He didn't have to "compliment" him on it (or whatever he thought it would lead to); all he had to do is explain the situation and whomever would have understood and recommended a new barber, even if it didn't work out. Or consult the yellow pages? They still existed in 1989.
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** Yes it can. In an early episode when Al was invited to give a speech at Polk High's senior prom and Kelly got revenge on a girl who pranked Bud, the shop teacher repeatedly hit on Peggy. She kept rejecting him until Al finally clobbered him with the microphone. And if Peg had slept with her new boyfriend, Bud and Kelly probably would have said something about it. The relationship wasn't off to a great start either, with Peg's EpicFail cooking attempt when she invited the D'Arcys over for dinner.
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* In a late season 2 parter, Peggy and Al split up for a week or so with Al moving completely out the house and Peggy got a new wealthy boyfriend. Did Peggy ever sleep with that guy? Considering how sex starved Peggy is, I can't imagine that she wouldn't. We've seen Al with the chance to sleep with other women and turn them down, but the same can't be said of Peggy.
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* As crazy as it sounds, personality goes a long way with Al. The real reason Peg doesn't turn him on is because she's an entitled parasite who regularly makes his life hell. When she actually does something useful, he can't keep his hands off her. This even applies with ''Marcy''. He hates Marcy because she's a ball-busting StrawFeminist, but when he meets her cousin Mandy (who he initially thinks is Marcy in a wig) and they hit it off, he repeatedly hits on her even after he learns she's a lesbian.
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** It's not even so much that Peg is his wife, but that she's one of the main reasons his life went to hell. She's a lazy parasite who contributes nothing and constantly makes his life miserable. On the rare occasions when she actually does housework, or when Al actually seems to be enjoying wealth and success, he can't keep his hands off her. It's likely that if Al had actually achieved his dream and become a big football star, he wouldn't be sleeping with random groupies. He'd be plowing Peg like a farmer's field every night.
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** There's plenty of way that a court, particularly in a hick town or municipality like Wanker County, would allow it to stand if there was rampant corruption. And keep in mind this is [[BornUnlucky Al]] [[TheChewToy Bundy]] we're talking about. If courts in Chicago can screw him over when he's completely in the right (as they did in "Un-Alful Entry"), then corrupt small-town courts definitely will too.
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** On one level, as noted above, Marcy is a massive hypocrite just like any number of real-life politicians and evangelists who preach "family values" but then get caught in massive sex scandals. On another, at the time the show aired the Republicans were just as likely to be MoralGuardians that wanted things they considered offensive censored. The simplest explanation is that not all of Marcy's political beliefs matched up perfectly with the Republican stereotypes, a tendency that's just as likely to show up among Democrats.
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** Marcy doesn't hate men so much as she wants to dominate and boss them around. If there's one thing Steve and Jefferson had in common, it's that they were both {{Henpecked Husband}}s. (Insert your own chicken joke here.) This is one of the areas where she and Al are NotSoDifferent. While he wants men to be the dominant gender, she wants women to be dominant. Not to mention that Jefferson basically was a glorified gigolo, to the point that Marcy outright called him a [[TrophyWife Trophy Husband.]] One of the {{Running Gag}}s was how Marcy would always want Jefferson to get a job, but then force him to quit whenever he actually got one, since he always got attention from other women.

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** Marcy doesn't hate men so much as she wants to dominate and boss them around. If there's one thing Steve and Jefferson had in common, it's that they were both {{Henpecked Husband}}s. (Insert your own chicken joke here.) This is one of the areas where she and Al are NotSoDifferent.not so different. While he wants men to be the dominant gender, she wants women to be dominant. Not to mention that Jefferson basically was a glorified gigolo, to the point that Marcy outright called him a [[TrophyWife Trophy Husband.]] One of the {{Running Gag}}s was how Marcy would always want Jefferson to get a job, but then force him to quit whenever he actually got one, since he always got attention from other women.
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* Just how is Al and Peg's marriage even legal in the first place? Since he has admitted several times that he was heavily intoxicated when they said their vows and even with her father pointing an (unloaded, though ''Al'' didn't know that) shotgun at his back, there's no way that any court, even in a hick town/municipal like Wanker County, would allow such a thing to stand.
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**** This does not seem to be a fetish, he has no trouble getting turned on by other women with less ridiculous taste.


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**** This had less to do with the manual labor itself as how much it caused Peg to suffer.
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** Maybe its specific to the school's tap club? The popular girls that did ballet and dance generally did so at exclusive studios outside of school. Perhaps its not tap itself but having to join the (presumably free) school's tap club that makes it so reprehensible?

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* What if we're taking the statements about how much Al makes too literally? Its a running joke that he makes minimum wage, but there are frequent mentions of of commission. If he makes minimum wage + commission you could still say "he only makes minimum wage" as a joke and be technically correct. All the rest of the Bundy's money-troubles are still easily explained away by them being horrible with money.



* What if we're taking the statements about how much Al makes too literally? Its a running joke that he makes minimum wage, but there are frequent mentions of of commission. If he makes minimum wage + commission you could still say "he only makes minimum wage" as a joke and be technically correct. All the rest of the Bundy's money-troubles are still easily explained away by them being horrible with money.
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* What if we're taking the statements about how much Al makes too literally? Its a running joke that he makes minimum wage, but there are frequent mentions of of commission. If he makes minimum wage + commission you could still say "he only makes minimum wage" as a joke and be technically correct. All the rest of the Bundy's money-troubles are still easily explained away by them being horrible with money.
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** The Bundys probably also buy the cheapest things possible, often from second-hand pawnshops, when they just don't outright steal them. When the TV blows out in "Kelly Knows Something", Al yells at Peggy for her advising him to buy a second-hand TV for ten bucks, only for it to break 20 years later.
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** As for why Al still trusts Peg with money, he probably doesn't. Instead, Peg ''steals'' the money, often by picking Al's pocket, smashing Kelly's piggy bank, etc.

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For someone who seems to love sex so much and has a...variety of kinks and a more then healthy sexual apatite, Marcy sure seems to hate men in general. Marcy seems like she would be happier paying gigolos versus actually being married and with a man.

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* For someone who seems to love sex so much and has a...variety of kinks and a more then healthy sexual apatite, Marcy sure seems to hate men in general. Marcy seems like she would be happier paying gigolos versus actually being married and with a man.
** Marcy doesn't hate men so much as she wants to dominate and boss them around. If there's one thing Steve and Jefferson had in common, it's that they were both {{Henpecked Husband}}s. (Insert your own chicken joke here.) This is one of the areas where she and Al are NotSoDifferent. While he wants men to be the dominant gender, she wants women to be dominant. Not to mention that Jefferson basically was a glorified gigolo, to the point that Marcy outright called him a [[TrophyWife Trophy Husband.]] One of the {{Running Gag}}s was how Marcy would always want Jefferson to get a job, but then force him to quit whenever he actually got one, since he always got attention from other women.
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[[folder: Marcy Loves Sex But Hates Men?]]
For someone who seems to love sex so much and has a...variety of kinks and a more then healthy sexual apatite, Marcy sure seems to hate men in general. Marcy seems like she would be happier paying gigolos versus actually being married and with a man.
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** ** Marcy didn't really regress, just more of her more negative traits came to the surface. Marcy was always this misandrist and hypocritical person, as could be seen in the first episodes. Like when she said that she and Steve agreed to not watch sports like football because they barbaric. No, she thought sports were barbaric and Steve just went along with it. The same with smut, and porn. Yet and still, she has a lot of sexual kinks and fantasies. So she's always been shown to be against typical "man" stuff. And from her perspective, Al is THE most typical, lowest common denominator man there is.

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** ** Marcy didn't really regress, just more of her more negative traits came to the surface. Marcy was always this misandrist and hypocritical person, as could be seen in the first episodes. Like when she said that she and Steve agreed to not watch sports like football because they barbaric. No, she thought sports were barbaric and Steve just went along with it. The same with smut, and porn. Yet and still, she has a lot of sexual kinks and fantasies. So she's always been shown to be against typical "man" stuff. And from her perspective, Al is THE most typical, lowest common denominator man there is.
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** For all we know, Al ''stole'' the beer. He, Bud and Kelly have all been showing stealing food from other people. When he did buy it, he probably went to a liquor store rather than a grocery store that also sold booze.

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** For all we know, Al ''stole'' the beer. He, Bud and Kelly have all been showing stealing food from other people. When he did buy it, he probably went to a liquor store rather than a grocery store that also sold booze. Not to mention that, as a traditionalist guy, Al probably thought grocery shopping was a woman's job, and didn't think he should do it himself.
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** For all we know, Al ''stole'' the beer. He, Bud and Kelly have all been showing stealing food from other people. When he did buy it, he probably went to a liquor store rather than a grocery store that also sold booze.
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** Lots and lots and ''lots'' of credit card debt. It's a real problem for many Americans, so it's only natural that Peggy would take it UpToEleven. The episode "976-SHOE" opens with Officer Dan confiscating Peggy's credit card, while a later-season episode features Al trying to hold a "Bundy Financial Crisis Summit Meeting" with the "Bundy Big Box O' Bills". This is why Al threatens to put Bud and Kelly "in the will" as punishment, since they'll inherit all the debts he's built up.


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** Because they're so far in debt Bud and Kelly's grandkids will still be paying it off. The Bundy curse ensures that the family will continue to suffer for it without going to jail. Remember when Al's shoe hotline failed, and he ended up owing $100,000 to two banks? They extended his mortgage to the year 2157 to pay for it. After that, he'll be able to retire.
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[[folder: Tap Dancing Is For Geeks?]]
* In Season 3's "Can't Dance, Don't Ask Me", Kelly treats being forced to join the tap-dance class as a FateWorseThanDeath, gets bullied by her former friends and pitied by her family. Tap dancing is portrayed as something only the most desperate losers would do. In my experience growing up, it was usually the ''popular'' girls who did tap and ballet classes, not the unpopular outcasts. Not to mention that [[https://twitter.com/1capplegate/status/552673116028026880 Christina Applegate is an accomplished tap dancer in real life]] and I somehow doubt she was an unpopular geek in school. Is this episode just an anomaly, or did things drastically change between the late '80s and the mid-to-late '90s when I went to junior/senior high?
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* I mean yeah, they're poorer then their neighbors the Rhodes/D'arcy's, but all things considered they seem to be doing pretty ok. They have at least, a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with a 2 car garage and a full basement. And the house is fully furnished with a lot of accents and decorations like mirrors, pictures, plants and a small grandfather clock. And although Al complains about money, even with Peggy's spending habits, all the bills always seem to get paid and everyone always has clothes and shoes. And Al always seems to be able to pay for whatever damages that happen to him, the car or the house.
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* We are constantly shown that Peggy takes the money Al makes and spend on herself extravagantly. But how? How can she afford all of this spending that's WELL out of Al's pay range like $500 dresses, and a skywriter for her birthday or a $2000 interior design class and all the other things she buys?
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** I imagine ''some'' of the trips would be, "here's some money, now '''get out of my hair'''."

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** ** Marcy didn't really regress, just more of her more negative traits came to the surface. Marcy was always this misandrist and hypocritical person, as could be seen in the first episodes. Like when she said that she and Steve agreed to not watch sports like football because they barbaric. No, she thought sports were barbaric and Steve just went along with it. The same with smut, and porn. Yet and still, she has a lot of sexual kinks and fantasies. So she's always been shown to be against typical "man" stuff. And from her perspective, Al is THE most typical, lowest common denominator man there is.



** Marcy didn't really regress, just more of her more negative traits came to the surface. Marcy was always this misandristic and hypocritical person, as could be seen in the first episodes. Like when she said that she and Steve agreed to not watch sports like football because they barbaric. No, she thought sports were barbaric and Steve just went along with it. The same with smut, and porn. Yet and still, she has a lot of sexual kinks and fantasies. So she's always been shown to be against typical "man" stuff. And from her perspective, Al is THE most typical, lowest common denominator man there is.
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** Marcy didn't really regress, just more of her more negative traits came to the surface. Marcy was always this misandristic and hypocritical person, as could be seen in the first episodes. Like when she said that she and Steve agreed to not watch sports like football because they barbaric. No, she thought sports were barbaric and Steve just went along with it. The same with smut, and porn. Yet and still, she has a lot of sexual kinks and fantasies. So she's always been shown to be against typical "man" stuff. And from her perspective, Al is THE most typical, lowest common denominator man there is.

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[[folder: *Why Didn't Al Buy the Food Himself?]] We are shown many times that Peg uses the money that Al gives her to buy food on herself. So why does Al still trust her with any money? Why doesn't Al just go to the store and buy the food himself? He always seems to have beer in the frig, and I doubt Peg went all the way to the store just to buy him beer, meaning that Al probably stopped somewhere himself to buy it. Why not just buy food while he's there?

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are shown many times that Peg uses the money that Al gives her to buy food on herself. So why does Al still trust her with any money? Why doesn't Al just go to the store and buy the food himself? He always seems to have beer in the frig, and I doubt Peg went all the way to the store just to buy him beer, meaning that Al probably stopped somewhere himself to buy it. Why not just buy food while he's there?
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* The point is that it doesn't matter who was his wife. Eventually he would lose sexual interest in her. If he married one of those 20 year old today, he'd be tired of her in a few year because she's now his wife. The reason he was attracted to Peg when she disguised herself as a stripper was that the stripper wasn't his wife ( as far as he knew). This means that Al actually does finds Peg physically attractive, the problem being that she's his wife.


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[[folder: *Why Didn't Al Buy the Food Himself?]] We are shown many times that Peg uses the money that Al gives her to buy food on herself. So why does Al still trust her with any money? Why doesn't Al just go to the store and buy the food himself? He always seems to have beer in the frig, and I doubt Peg went all the way to the store just to buy him beer, meaning that Al probably stopped somewhere himself to buy it. Why not just buy food while he's there?
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** Because Peggy is one of the main reasons his life turned to shit. She made him break his leg and lose his football scholarship, he had to keep working at the shoe store to support her when they got married, she's buried him in debt with her frivolous spending, and she's done everything from ruin his chance at owning his own business to rat him out to the cops about his parking tickets to get him in trouble with the IRS. After everything she's put him through, the strange thing isn't that he doesn't want to have sex with her, but that he hasn't acted on his comments about shooting her.

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