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* Exactly how is Susie in ''Planet Robobot'' considered a villain? She only made attempts to kill Kirby while working for President Haltmann - [[AffablyEvil and even then, she was pretty polite to him]] - and WordOfGod is that the only reason she's working for Haltmann is because [[spoiler: he doesn't recognize her as his daughter. Once she manages to get ahold of Star Dream's program controller, she never displays any signs of ill will toward Kirby, even if she is a little condescending, and she even gives him a mech suit to help him destroy Star Dream later on. As someone who knows her backstory, it seemed to me like she was just forced into some miserable circumstances and tried to take the first opportunity to free herself from them, and hadn't expected it to backfire so horribly.]]

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* Exactly how is Susie in ''Planet Robobot'' considered a villain? She only made attempts to kill Kirby while working for President Haltmann - [[AffablyEvil and even then, she was pretty polite to him]] - and WordOfGod is that the only reason she's working for Haltmann is because [[spoiler: he doesn't recognize her as his daughter. Once she manages to get ahold of Star Dream's program controller, she never displays any signs of ill will toward Kirby, even if she is a little condescending, and she even gives him a mech suit to help him destroy Star Dream later on. As someone who knows her backstory, it seemed to me like she was just forced into some miserable circumstances and tried to take the first opportunity to free herself from them, and hadn't expected it to backfire so horribly.]]]]
* In Kirby Super Star, why does the Halberd have a Main Cannon #2, but no Main Cannon #1?
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** My guess is that the wings/missile launcher combo was just a mechanical addition to his own wingset, hence why it all protruded from his back, with its circuitry being connected to his nerves (somehow) to allow him to control it. Having all of that disconnected so swiftly would probably lead to some injury back there, but Meta Knight's never struck me as the kind of person to let something so minor keep him from protecting the peace. And once Star Dream is destroyed, all of the mechanization it caused is undone anyway, which would remove any of the mechanical upgrades he might've failed to uninstall on his own.
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** Yes, but that would still leave a gaping hole in his back. And I'm fairly certain that the claw https://vgy.me/rlBfRd isn't going to fit in that tiny disc https://vgy.me/AahYWK .

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** Yes, but that would still leave a gaping hole in his back. And I'm fairly certain that the claw https://vgy.me/rlBfRd isn't going to fit in that tiny disc https://vgy.me/AahYWK .
me/AahYWK, in fact I think that last image actually shows the gaping hole.
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** Yes, but that would still leave a gaping hole in his back. And I'm fairly certain that the claw https://vgy.me/rlBfRd isn't going to fit in that tiny disc https://vgy.me/AahYWK .
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** The claw arm and mask were both destroyed after you defeated him for the final time, so all he would've needed was to remove the missile launchers from his wings and regain his old armor. It's also possible that Susie was unconscious for longer than the cutscenes implied, which would give Meta Knight enough time to get the Halberd up and running and fly back to the Access Ark to rendezvous with Kirby.

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** The claw arm and mask were both destroyed after you defeated him for the final time, so all he would've needed was to remove the missile launchers from his wings and regain his old armor. It's also possible that Susie was unconscious for longer than the cutscenes implied, which would give Meta Knight enough time to get the Halberd up and running and fly back to the Access Ark to rendezvous with Kirby.Kirby.

* Exactly how is Susie in ''Planet Robobot'' considered a villain? She only made attempts to kill Kirby while working for President Haltmann - [[AffablyEvil and even then, she was pretty polite to him]] - and WordOfGod is that the only reason she's working for Haltmann is because [[spoiler: he doesn't recognize her as his daughter. Once she manages to get ahold of Star Dream's program controller, she never displays any signs of ill will toward Kirby, even if she is a little condescending, and she even gives him a mech suit to help him destroy Star Dream later on. As someone who knows her backstory, it seemed to me like she was just forced into some miserable circumstances and tried to take the first opportunity to free herself from them, and hadn't expected it to backfire so horribly.]]
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** I've always figured that because he's all about being noble and strong and proud, he feels that his round, cutesy appearance takes away from his dignified character, that's all.
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* In ''Planet Robobot'',[[spoiler:how did Meta Knight unmechanize himself, especially considering the fact that his insides seem to have been replaced with a giant claw hand? https://vgy.me/czxseR]]

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* In ''Planet Robobot'',[[spoiler:how did Meta Knight unmechanize himself, especially considering the fact that his insides seem to have been replaced with a giant claw hand? https://vgy.me/czxseR]]me/czxseR]]
** The claw arm and mask were both destroyed after you defeated him for the final time, so all he would've needed was to remove the missile launchers from his wings and regain his old armor. It's also possible that Susie was unconscious for longer than the cutscenes implied, which would give Meta Knight enough time to get the Halberd up and running and fly back to the Access Ark to rendezvous with Kirby.

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** Long answer: Dedede is greedy and friendly rivals with Kirby, and if he's not causing problems himself (which is rare), he'll try fighting back the potential bad guy. Kirby sometimes views him with suspicion but he otherwise has no ill will towards Dedede, even helping him if he's in distress. Meta Knight is enigmatic and serious, but generally good; at worst he's a WellIntentionedExtremist. Sometimes seen as Kirby's big brother figure. Kirby himself show some respect for him when he's not being forced to fight Meta Knight when he's being "bad".

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** Long answer: Dedede is greedy and friendly rivals with Kirby, and if he's not causing problems himself (which is rare), he'll try fighting back the potential bad guy. Kirby sometimes views him with suspicion but he otherwise has no ill will towards Dedede, even helping him if he's in distress. Meta Knight is enigmatic and serious, but generally good; at worst he's a WellIntentionedExtremist. Sometimes seen as a Kirby's big brother figure. Kirby himself show some respect for him when he's not being forced to fight Meta Knight when he's being "bad"."bad".
* In ''Planet Robobot'',[[spoiler:how did Meta Knight unmechanize himself, especially considering the fact that his insides seem to have been replaced with a giant claw hand? https://vgy.me/czxseR]]
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* I've been playing ''Kirby'' games for many years now, and I'm still wondering what types of characters Meta Knight and King Dedede are supposed to be seen as. In the trailer for my first game, ''Kirby: Air Ride'', Meta Knight was sort of made to look like a villain, but in more recent games like ''Return to Dreamland'' and ''Planet Robobot'', he and King Dedede seem pretty neutral, if not helpful to Kirby's cause, and in ''Epic Yarn'', Kirby only fought them while they were being controlled by Yin-Yarn. Could anyone help me out here, just explain what their personalities are?

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* I've been playing ''Kirby'' games for many years now, and I'm still wondering what types of characters Meta Knight and King Dedede are supposed to be seen as. In the trailer for my first game, ''Kirby: Air Ride'', Meta Knight was sort of made to look like a villain, but in more recent games like ''Return to Dreamland'' and ''Planet Robobot'', he and King Dedede seem pretty neutral, if not helpful to Kirby's cause, and in ''Epic Yarn'', Kirby only fought them while they were being controlled by Yin-Yarn. Could anyone help me out here, just explain what their personalities are?are?
** Short, lazy answer: they're whatever the current game wanted them to be.
** Long answer: Dedede is greedy and friendly rivals with Kirby, and if he's not causing problems himself (which is rare), he'll try fighting back the potential bad guy. Kirby sometimes views him with suspicion but he otherwise has no ill will towards Dedede, even helping him if he's in distress. Meta Knight is enigmatic and serious, but generally good; at worst he's a WellIntentionedExtremist. Sometimes seen as Kirby's big brother figure. Kirby himself show some respect for him when he's not being forced to fight Meta Knight when he's being "bad".
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** Second Explanation: One syllable can extend over several notes.

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** Second Explanation: One syllable can extend over several notes.notes.
* I've been playing ''Kirby'' games for many years now, and I'm still wondering what types of characters Meta Knight and King Dedede are supposed to be seen as. In the trailer for my first game, ''Kirby: Air Ride'', Meta Knight was sort of made to look like a villain, but in more recent games like ''Return to Dreamland'' and ''Planet Robobot'', he and King Dedede seem pretty neutral, if not helpful to Kirby's cause, and in ''Epic Yarn'', Kirby only fought them while they were being controlled by Yin-Yarn. Could anyone help me out here, just explain what their personalities are?
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*** The only times this troper has ever fallen into a bottomless pit is when I use a move that moves me downwards( like stones main move) and I don't get out of the move in time.
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** The lyrics to ''Galaxy Famous Haltmann'' probably work better?

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** The lyrics to ''Galaxy Famous Haltmann'' probably work better?better?
** First Explanation: The song was written with Japanese lyrics in mind, thus no translation will be a perfect fit.
** Second Explanation: One syllable can extend over several notes.
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* I don't want to start a FlameWar, nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Isn't shipping them kinda... [[{{Squick}} squickish]].
** To be fair, there are a LOT of weird ships out there. Maybe fans ship them because they work together a lot in the show?
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Should have nuked this one years ago: Headscratchers are supposed to be questions about the work, not about the work's fans.


* Is anyone else kind of annoyed by how some people think ''every'' single villain in the series is some subsidiary of the Dark Matter? I understand that yes, Zero/0[[superscript:2]] is pretty much the biggest evil in that universe, but not ''everything'' was caused by him. We have the villains who were obviously part of the Dark Matter: that singular swordsman Dark Matter in [=KDL2=], the Dark Matter drone and Zero in [=KDL3=], and then 0[[superscript:2]] in [=K64=]. They're the definite ones. Here we move into the slightly dubious ones, like Dark Mind and Dark Nebula. Dark Mind is probably the Mirror World counterpart of Zero, so that makes sense, and Dark Nebula could be some offshoot of the Dark Matter? But that's it! It gets really annoying when people try to claim that villains like ''Marx'' are part of the Dark Matter. There's no link between them whatsoever, and it's the same with Magolor. He wasn't possessed by Dark Matter, he was possessed by the ''Crown,'' and it was puppeting his body. Is anyone else irked by that?
** Nightmare is also not connected, but equally annoying is that the show made Dark Matter Nightmare's minion, [[{{Mooks}} a throwaway minion]]! Marx is not connected, and it is strange people try. Super Star was better received in sales and reviews than the Dark Matter trilogy, but Dark Matter and Zero[=/=]0[[superscript:2]] are the most nightmarish monsters to be bosses, and a subsection of the fandom is always gushing about Kirby defeating nightmarish abominations. Maybe they try to tie Dark Matter/Zero into everything to justify is status as a monster worth gushing about?
** Magolor/The Crown itself gets connected to Dark Matter a lot because if you look closely, Magolor Soul is actually a giant floating eyeball that looks very reminiscent of the guy, and he's copying the fake eyes thing 0[[superscript:2]] did at the beginning of its fight. Nightmare and Marx, on the other hand, have no evidence supporting any possible connection to it.
** Now where does [[VideoGame/KirbyMassAttack Necrodeus]] fit into this? Just a random baddie?
** I believe the final boss from Squeak Squad, Dark Nebula (Dark Zero in Japan), was actually confirmed to be a rogue piece of Dark Matter and that's it. Any other final boss is its own evil entity with their own evil plot.
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* In ''Planet Robobot'', what's with the lyrics of [[VillainSong The Noble Haltmann]]? The rhyming is good, but each line has too few syllables. Why?

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* In ''Planet Robobot'', what's with the lyrics of [[VillainSong The Noble Haltmann]]? The rhyming is good, but each line has too few syllables. Why?Why?
**The lyrics to ''Galaxy Famous Haltmann'' probably work better?
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* To be fair, there are a LOT of weird ships out there. Maybe fans ship them because they work together a lot in the show?

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* ** To be fair, there are a LOT of weird ships out there. Maybe fans ship them because they work together a lot in the show?

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* I don't want to start FlameWar nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Isn't shipping them kinda... [[{{Squick}} squickish]].

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* I don't want to start FlameWar a FlameWar, nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Isn't shipping them kinda... [[{{Squick}} squickish]].squickish]].
* To be fair, there are a LOT of weird ships out there. Maybe fans ship them because they work together a lot in the show?
* In ''Planet Robobot'', what's with the lyrics of [[VillainSong The Noble Haltmann]]? The rhyming is good, but each line has too few syllables. Why?
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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yarn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he ccarsan't inhale because the air goes right through him?

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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yarn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he ccarsan't can't inhale because the air goes right through him?
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* I don't want to start FlameWar nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Isn't shipping them kinda... {{Squick squicky}}.

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* I don't want to start FlameWar nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Isn't shipping them kinda... {{Squick squicky}}.[[{{Squick}} squickish]].
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* I don't really don't want to start a FlameWar, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Doesn't shipping them have massive amounts of {{Squick}}?

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* I don't really don't want to start a FlameWar, FlameWar nor do I have anything against it, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Doesn't Isn't shipping them have massive amounts of {{Squick}}?kinda... {{Squick squicky}}.
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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yarn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?

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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yarn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't ccarsan't inhale because the air goes right through him?him?
* I don't really don't want to start a FlameWar, but why do some people ship [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Tiff/Fumu]] and Meta Knight together? The former is [[AmbiguouslyHuman somewhat human looking]] and the latter is a blue puffball. Doesn't shipping them have massive amounts of {{Squick}}?
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*** Though they are repeatedly referred to as his transformed cape in [[SuperSmashBros Brawl and Melee]], as well as on the Smash Bros Dojo.

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*** Though they are repeatedly referred to as his transformed cape in [[SuperSmashBros [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl and Melee]], as well as on the Smash Bros Dojo.
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** He doesn't swallow the cake. Swallowing is needed for him to gain copy abilities.
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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yawn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?

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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yawn'', Yarn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?
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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yawn'', how is Kirby fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?

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* In ''Kirby's Epic Yawn'', how is Kirby able to fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?
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** I think it's like [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} Mothra]] and the dynachicks are for when the mother dies from natural or not causes. Maybe the dreamlanders just think there has been only one?

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** I think it's like [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} Mothra]] and the dynachicks are for when the mother dies from natural or not causes. Maybe the dreamlanders just think there has been only one?one?
* In ''Kirby's Epic Yawn'', how is Kirby fall slower by turning into a parachute when we've already established that he can't inhale because the air goes right through him?
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*** Maybe bottomless pits and the like are something akin to Kirby's stomach - they're like giant black holes with gravitational pulls so strong that it's impossible to escape them once you get past a certain point.
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** Considering the original Dreamland plot involved King Dedede stealing all the food, I doubt he rules over anything but his own castle. In [[KirbyOfTheStars the anime]], he does rule over the town, but it doesn't seem to be a legitimate rule. More like "obey me, or else". Which makes Kirby's presence all the more inconvenient for him.

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** Considering the original Dreamland plot involved King Dedede stealing all the food, I doubt he rules over anything but his own castle. In [[KirbyOfTheStars [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars the anime]], he does rule over the town, but it doesn't seem to be a legitimate rule. More like "obey me, or else". Which makes Kirby's presence all the more inconvenient for him.
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** I think it's like Mothra and the dynachicks are for when the mother dies from natural or not causes. Maybe the dreamlanders just think there has been only one?

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** I think it's like Mothra [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} Mothra]] and the dynachicks are for when the mother dies from natural or not causes. Maybe the dreamlanders just think there has been only one?

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