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** I've always thought that Highlander: The Series is to Highlander the film as Stargate: SG1 is to Stargate the film. Each tv series exists in a fundamentally similar but still different universe of the film. Highlander the film takes place during the Gathering and when Connor MacLeod defeated the Kurgan he became the last Immortal on Earth and won the Prize. Highlander: The Series posits that it wasn't really the Gathering, Connor and the Kurgan weren't really the last two Immortals left, and that Immortals continued to be born after Connor MacLeod (a question that was left open in the film). In the Series' universe the Gathering is still a long way off and there are a lot more Immortals than were ever shown in the film. Whenever the Gathering occurred in the Series, presumably then Immortals would stop being born and all surviving Immortals would be called together to one area and have to battle it out until only One remains. The continuity of The Source with Highlander: The Series is, as the above troper said, contested. The Series wasn't originally written with The Source in mind and The Source was such a radical departure from ''all'' previous Highlander media that it's easy to consider it FanonDiscontinuity at the very least.
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** It doesn't seem to be as much respect as [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve Belief Makes it Real]]. Pompey supposedly happened because of Immortals fighting on holy land. You need a lot of people believing unconditionally that a specific location is holy for it to be so.
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** It doesn't seem to be as much respect as [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve Belief Makes it Real]]. Pompey Pompeii supposedly happened because of Immortals fighting on holy land. You need a lot of people believing unconditionally that a specific location is holy for it to be so.
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*** Actually, Paganism [which Wicca is part of] has been around for far longer than religions like Christianity. And an immortal could just push you out of the circle anyway.
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** Also it was established in The Raven spin-off that violent death is required to turn immortal. Die of old age or poison, and you stay dead, just like any other mortal.
*** I would also imagine that anyone becoming Immortal in a small territory like an island would have a very hard time hiding their condition and eventually just climb onto a boat and sail until they hit land, wherever that happened to be.
*** I would also imagine that anyone becoming Immortal in a small territory like an island would have a very hard time hiding their condition and eventually just climb onto a boat and sail until they hit land, wherever that happened to be.
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** Besides Wivvanism aside the rules seem to imply that you can't just declare any old piece of earth "Holy" and stick your tongue out at other Immortals.
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** Immortals have tried the old "I'll become a priest and thereby be on holy ground all the time," notably Darius. It doesn't stop ''mortals'' from assassinating you, or presumably an Immortal hiring mortal hirelings to achieve the same result.
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* In the episode "The Colonel", Killian imprisons MacLeod in an old barracks. Dawson, trying to locate his friend, contacts Killian's Watcher on the pretext of asking for some details of MacLeod's death. She tells him that, though Killian had MacLeod shot, he didn't actually behead him, and tells Joe the location of the barracks. Question: How did she know that Killian ''didn't'' kill MacLeod? Sure, she knows that Killian and his goons transported Duncan to the abandoned building. But unless she actually went inside and saw him in his cell, how does she know he's still alive? Granted, there was no lightning, but we've seen (granted very few) Quickenings that weren't accompanied by a light show.
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* In the episode "The Colonel", Killian imprisons MacLeod [=MacLeod=] in an old barracks. Dawson, trying to locate his friend, contacts Killian's Watcher on the pretext of asking for some details of MacLeod's [=MacLeod's=] death. She tells him that, though Killian had MacLeod [=MacLeod=] shot, he didn't actually behead him, and tells Joe the location of the barracks. Question: How did she know that Killian ''didn't'' kill MacLeod? [=MacLeod=]? Sure, she knows that Killian and his goons transported Duncan to the abandoned building. But unless she actually went inside and saw him in his cell, how does she know he's still alive? Granted, there was no lightning, but we've seen (granted very few) Quickenings that weren't accompanied by a light show.
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** Yup, Connor's survival underwater was just part of being Immortal. Short of beheading, no injury could kill them. Connor took a "mortal" wound in his first battle from the Kurgan...but never actually died. The Kurgan got a full magazine from an Uzi in the chest and fell down, but it didn't kill him. "Dying" temporarily was something they invented for the series.
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** It doesn't seem to be as much respect as [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve Belief Makes it Real]]. Pompey supposedly happened because of Immortals fighting on holy land. You need a lot of people believing unconditionally that a specific location is holy for it to be so.
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The new Immortals emerging part was added to make the series last longer.
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** Considering that Wiccanism was only recently invented, perhaps most immortals wouldn't respect it enough to consider it holy ground.
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** No, he comes along with everbody else and pretends he is gonna swear the vow of pacifism, but when they all have finished swearing except him that's when he refuses and declares himself the last immortal, ruler of the world.
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** No, being able to grow old and have children is just among the things the prize comes with. Watch the end of the first movie again: Connor gains more or less infinite knowledge, and the ability to essentially telepathically conference with the greatest minds in the world. There may be more powers associated with it that we never see, the Prize, in the first movie, at least, is likely total power.
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*** If, as it was with Connor, the Prize gives the Kurgan the power to know all men's thoughts and dreams, to make him "at one with all living things", it basically puts one hell of a weapon into the Kurgan's hands. He can't be stopped, because he knows the thoughts of those trying to stop him; he can manipulate and arrange things so that man perhaps develops the technology to overcome his mortality and rule as a king forever over the whole world. Hence the eternity of darkness. Or alternatively it may just mean the Kurgan could personally see in a new Dark Ages with the power at his hands.
** No, being able to grow old and have children is justamong a side effect of the things the prize comes with. Prize. Watch the end of the first movie again: Connor gains more or less infinite knowledge, and the ability to essentially telepathically conference with the greatest minds in the world. There may be more powers associated with it that we never see, the Prize, in the first movie, at least, is likely total power.
** No, being able to grow old and have children is just
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** Additionally/alternatively, as the main page points out, the various sequels and spin-offs of Highlander are good at contradicting each other and ignoring previously established. Just because something was true for the original movie doesn't mean it's going hold for any other iteration.
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** [[DisContinuity Additionally/alternatively, as the main page points out, the various sequels and spin-offs of Highlander are good at contradicting each other and ignoring previously established. Just because something was true for the original movie doesn't mean it's going hold for any other iteration.]]
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*Don't Wiccan immortals have kind of an unfair advantage? You just cast a circle and create holy ground; fifteen minutes and you're completely untouchable.
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** Additionally/alternatively, as the main page points out, the various sequels and spin-offs of Highlander are good at contradicting each other and ignoring previously established. Just because something was true for the original movie doesn't mean it's going hold for any other iteration.
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*** *** On this one DisContinuity applies. The first film seems to very strongly imply that the Game exists. Ramirez sets it out: "When only a few of us are left, we will feel an irresistible pull towards a faraway land - to fight for the Prize." And at the end of the film, Macleod seems to have been suggested to have taken the Prize - he's fully human, able to have children and grow old. On the other hand, the TV series (not to mention every sequel to the first film) has to explicitly contradict or work around this dictum, since the first film was meant to be a closed book and sequels and series are anything but.
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** Sure there are. We just didn't see them on the show.
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* Umm...sooo..no Immortals are born in isolated tribes in say New Guinea, Siberia or the Guiana Highlands? Or do they just never become Immortals...?
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* Did it never occur to our heroes that Kalas was bluffing when he threatened to reveal the existence of Immortals to the world? Such a revelation would screw him just as thoroughly as anyone else. I suppose it's possible he edited himself out of the Watcher records before setting up his scheme, but it seems like that would be a good way to get yourself killed: the entire Watcher organization is going to be out for his blood, to say nothing of the fact that EVERY SINGLE OTHER IMMORTAL (bar Methos, who's not in the records) is going to be pissed at him for ruining their lives.
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* In the episode "The Colonel", Killian imprisons MacLeod in an old barracks. Dawson, trying to locate his friend, contacts Killian's Watcher on the pretext of asking for some details of MacLeod's death. She tells him that, though Killian had MacLeod shot, he didn't actually behead him, and tells Joe the location of the barracks. Question: How did she know that Killian ''didn't'' kill MacLeod? Sure, she knows that Killian and his goons transported Duncan to the abandoned building. But unless she actually went inside and saw him in his cell, how does she know he's still alive? Granted, there was no lightning, but we've seen (granted very few) Quickenings that weren't accompanied by a light show.
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*** *** On this one DisContinuity applies. The first film seems to very strongly imply that the Game exists. Ramirez sets it out: "When only a few of us are left, we will feel an irresistible pull towards a faraway land - to fight for the Prize." And at the end of the film, Macleod seems to have been suggested to have taken the Prize - he's fully human, able to have children and grow old. On the other hand, the TV series (not to mention every sequel to the first film) has to explicitly contradict or work around this dictum, since the first film was meant to be a closed book and sequels and series are anything but.
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*** On this one DisContinuity applies. The first film seems to very strongly imply that the Game exists. Ramirez sets it out: "When only a few of us are left, we will feel an irresistible pull towards a faraway land - to fight for the Prize." And at the end of the film, Macleod seems to have been suggested to have taken the Prize - he's fully human, able to have children and grow old. On the other hand, the TV series (not to mention every sequel to the first film) has to explicitly contradict or work around this dictum, since the first film was meant to be a closed book and sequels and series are anything but.
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*I was watching the episode "The Darkness"(2X4) of the series, and something occurred to me. Duncan Was prophesied to never marry, and as of that episode he has never married yet. Later in the "Endgame" and the "Quickening" he is showed as married before the movies. In the Quickening he has the excuse of saying to hell with the prophecy and got married. But in Endgame, he was married to Kate 200 years previously, kinda ruins the time-line.
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*** On this one DisContinuity applies. The first film seems to very strongly imply that the Game exists. Ramirez sets it out: "When only a few of us are left, we will feel an irresistible pull towards a faraway land - to fight for the Prize." And at the end of the film, Macleod seems to have been suggested to have taken the Prize - he's fully human, able to have children and grow old. On the other hand, the TV series (not to mention every sequel to the first film) has to explicitly contradict or work around this dictum, since the first film was meant to be a closed book and sequels and series are anything but.
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** Connor's survival underwater isn't a special power, it's a restatement of the fact he ''can't die'' unless he's beheaded. He's simply letting air out of his lungs that whole time, not breathing. Also, Ramirez isn't forcing a sort of Quickening on Connor. He ''does'' make Connor feel strange, but that's simply because he's around another immortal - that much was consistent across the whole film if not the whole series. The {{Novelization}} makes it clearer: Ramirez forces Connor to put his arm into the air during a violent thunderstorm so he'll be hit with lightning, which induces the Quickening since it would otherwise be a mortal injury - it calls out the immortal's own inner abilities to defeat death. As for the animal ... this is something of a reflection of the Prize itself, in that the Prize allows its wielder to know every man's thoughts and dreams. When there is only one, all of the immortals' abilities to "feel" living beings have condensed down into one individual, who then has complete knowledge of all living things.
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* In the original film, Immortals had powers we never saw again. They could telepathically link with animals and use their abilities (kind of like Animal Man). Conner was shown surviving under water. Also, Ramirez force some sort of Quickening on Conner when they first met.
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**Or maybe the prize is whatever the victor wanted most. Connor wanted to be a regular joe. The Kurgan, naturally, would have wanted to treat the entire world (and everyone in it) as his personal playthings, killing, raping, maiming and looting to his heart's content...forever.
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** Because "the Game" is a myth. Yes, Immortals do gain power from taking the heads of their peers, but there's no Game. There will never be a Gathering. New Immortals will continue to appear, and get murdered or taught the rules of the Game.
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* How can there eventually "Be Only One" when, as we saw in the TV series, there are new Immortals emerging, and no one can tell who they are until after they've become an Immortal? Does the power just go away once there's just one left? (Feel free to mock if this has actually been answered.)
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** No, being able to grow old and have children is just among the things the prize comes with. Watch the end of the first movie again: Connor gains more or less infinite knowledge, and the ability to essentially telepathically conference with the greatest minds in the world. There may be more powers associated with it that we never see, the Prize, in the first movie, at least, is likely total power.
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*** I thought that if it got down to a certain group of immortals (for example, Ramirez, Connor and Kastigir surviving), the survivors would just have gone on their merry way and lived for as long as they bloody well liked.
* I just realised something. Ramirez says to Connor that if The Kurgan won the Prize, mankind would suffer an eternity of darkness. But The Prize is apparently being able to grow old and have children. Wouldn't the Kurgan just die in about 50 years or so? Granted, 50 years is a long time but it's not an eternity.
* I just realised something. Ramirez says to Connor that if The Kurgan won the Prize, mankind would suffer an eternity of darkness. But The Prize is apparently being able to grow old and have children. Wouldn't the Kurgan just die in about 50 years or so? Granted, 50 years is a long time but it's not an eternity.
