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** I've always thought there was a level of ActorAllusion that mitigates it somewhat, but gets lost outside the UK, and due to the years since the film's release. At the time ''Goldfinger'' came out, Honor Blackman was best known as [[Series/TheAvengers the Avenger Cathy Gale ]] and as a judo black-belt. So there was probably a certain perception that nobody throws Honor Blackman around unless she ''lets'' them do it. (An accurate perception, too. Honor Blackman's a real-life badass, and could probably take Connery in a fight.) Certainly Blackman doesn't play the scene like she's ''really'' being forced - Pussy seems to enjoy (genuinely, non-[[DeadlyEuphemism euphemistically]]) "playing hard to get".

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** I've always thought there was a level of ActorAllusion that mitigates it somewhat, but gets lost outside the UK, and due to the years since the film's release. At the time ''Goldfinger'' came out, Honor Blackman was best known as [[Series/TheAvengers [[Series/TheAvengers1960s the Avenger Cathy Gale ]] Gale]] and as a judo black-belt. So there was probably a certain perception that nobody throws Honor Blackman around unless she ''lets'' them do it. (An accurate perception, too. Honor Blackman's a real-life badass, and could probably take Connery in a fight.) Certainly Blackman doesn't play the scene like she's ''really'' being forced - Pussy seems to enjoy (genuinely, non-[[DeadlyEuphemism euphemistically]]) "playing hard to get".
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*** One can also argue that Bond, since this movie, became a something of a BoringInvincibleHero, or at the very least a ridiculously hyper-competent, untouchable, unflappable super spy who easily triumphed over adversity. ''Goldfinger'' is interesting because, although Bond is still roughly the same character but he's a lot more flawed.

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*** One can also argue that Bond, since this movie, became a something of a BoringInvincibleHero, an InvincibleHero, or at the very least a ridiculously hyper-competent, untouchable, unflappable super spy who easily triumphed over adversity. ''Goldfinger'' is interesting because, although Bond is still roughly the same character but he's a lot more flawed.
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** Also, Pussy and the Circus didn't actually know it was nerve gas originally, and they really thought they were just putting the town to sleep. So even if the Circus pilots weren't in on Pussy's plan to switch out the gas, they would probably expect to see people collapse slowly, stopping cars and falling unconscious rather than dropping dead. Who knows, some of the more convincing details, like the car crash, may well have been faked precisely ''because'' they were on Goldfinger's route into town. They can't risk him aborting the mission or he'll get away with the bomb.
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*** Even a small kiloton range detonation inside the depository will turn it into a crater, the gold will recieve a MASSIVE neutron dose and will be scattered over a huge area amongst highly radioactive dust. If we assume this is some sort of cobalt-style bomb it will be enormously expensive to ever go near the repository site for several years due to the radiation protection, after which a huge part of the gold will probably have dispersed on the wind or washed away (it wil be a fine mist of condensed gold vapour). How you hide something like that in a country that isn't in 1984 is beyond me.

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*** Even a small kiloton range detonation inside the depository will turn it into a crater, the gold will recieve a MASSIVE neutron dose and will be scattered over a huge area amongst highly radioactive dust. If we assume this is some sort of cobalt-style bomb it will be enormously expensive to ever go near the repository site for several years due to the radiation protection, after which a huge part of the gold will probably have dispersed on the wind or washed away (it wil be a fine mist of condensed gold vapour). How you hide something like that in a country that isn't in 1984 [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]] is beyond me.
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** Probably to avoid collateral damage.
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*** Fort Knox is a US army base; it's staffed and operated by US soldiers. They probably just assumed he was one of the soldiers based there who had been playing possum from the inside.
** BavarianArmyDrill. He's counting on them seeing the uniform, hearing orders barked at them authoritatively, and reacting instinctively as junior soldiers.

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*** Fort Knox is a US army base; it's staffed and operated by US soldiers. They probably just assumed he was one of the soldiers based there who and had been playing possum from the inside.
** BavarianArmyDrill.BavarianFireDrill. He's counting on them seeing the uniform, hearing orders barked at them authoritatively, and reacting instinctively as junior soldiers.
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** "Why is this considered one of the best Bond movies? In my opinion it is one of the weaker entries." Because people have different opinions than you. That's all it is, really. You're entitled not to like the movie, and provide valid reasons for why you don't, but it's still entirely subjective.


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*** Fort Knox is a US army base; it's staffed and operated by US soldiers. They probably just assumed he was one of the soldiers based there who had been playing possum from the inside.
** BavarianArmyDrill. He's counting on them seeing the uniform, hearing orders barked at them authoritatively, and reacting instinctively as junior soldiers.
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** In the words of ''{{Series/Sherlock}}'', genius needs an audience. He's spent all this time on a plan he is immensely proud of but he knows that he can never tell anyone about it. So he tells people he's planning to kill

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** In the words of ''{{Series/Sherlock}}'', genius needs an audience. He's spent all this time on a plan he is immensely proud of but he knows that he can never tell anyone about it. So he tells people he's planning to killkill.



*** But that would only make sense if he told them his ''real'' plan. Why bother with what he knows to be a flawed plan?
*** Maybe that was (as in the book) his ''first'' plan. After all, telling them ''one'' genius plan (even if it's not the one you plan to use) is almost as good.

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*** ** But that would only make sense if he told them his ''real'' plan. Why bother with what he knows to be a flawed plan?
*** ** Maybe that was (as in the book) his ''first'' plan. After all, telling them ''one'' genius plan (even if it's not the one you plan to use) is almost as good.
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*** Maybe that was (as in the book) his ''first'' plan. After all, telling them ''one'' genius plan (even if it's not the one you plan to use) is almost as good.
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* The mook Oddjob throws over the balcony in the Fort Knox vault after they get locked in has a gun. Why does Bond make no effort to retrieve it? Bond could have shot Oddjob then taken the key to unlock himself. Or circled back to get it later?

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* The mook Oddjob throws over the balcony in the Fort Knox vault after they get locked in has a gun. Why does Bond make no effort to retrieve it? Bond could have shot Oddjob then taken the key to unlock himself. Or circled back to get it later?later?
* SPECTRE is absent from this film after being prominently featured in both the previous film and the next one in the series. But is SPECTRE actually financing or supporting Goldfinger's master plan? With all the chaos and economic woes that would follow the irradiating of the US gold supply, that could very well benefit them too.
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* The mook Oddjob throws. over the balcony in the Fort Knox vault after they get locked in has a gun. Why does Bond make no effort to retrieve it? Bond could have shot Oddjob then taken the key to unlock himself. Or circled back to get it later?

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* The mook Oddjob throws. throws over the balcony in the Fort Knox vault after they get locked in has a gun. Why does Bond make no effort to retrieve it? Bond could have shot Oddjob then taken the key to unlock himself. Or circled back to get it later?
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* How did Tilly buy Bond's "tire defect" explanation for her double blowout when the side of her car had been cut open like a tin can between the two tires?

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* How did Tilly buy Bond's "tire defect" explanation for her double blowout when the side of her car had been cut open like a tin can between the two tires?tires?
* The mook Oddjob throws. over the balcony in the Fort Knox vault after they get locked in has a gun. Why does Bond make no effort to retrieve it? Bond could have shot Oddjob then taken the key to unlock himself. Or circled back to get it later?
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** Maybe FridgeBrilliance: The plan would let him get into the gold-trading business because he could finally sell tiny ingots at a price that would make up for the psychological loss of losing a tiny bit of his supply.
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*** But that would only make sense if he told them his ''real'' plan. Why bother with what he knows to be a flawed plan?
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** I've always thought there was a level of ActorAllusion that mitigates it somewhat, but gets lost outside the UK, and due to the years since the film's release. At the time ''Goldfinger'' came out, Honor Blackman was best known as [[Series/TheAvengers the Avenger Cathy Gale ]] and as a judo black-belt. So there was probably a certain perception that nobody throws Honor Blackman around unless she ''lets'' them do it. (An accurate perception, too. Honor Blackman's a real-life {{Badass}}, and could probably take Connery in a fight.) Certainly Blackman doesn't play the scene like she's ''really'' being forced - Pussy seems to enjoy (genuinely, non-[[DeadlyEuphemism euphemistically]]) "playing hard to get".

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** I've always thought there was a level of ActorAllusion that mitigates it somewhat, but gets lost outside the UK, and due to the years since the film's release. At the time ''Goldfinger'' came out, Honor Blackman was best known as [[Series/TheAvengers the Avenger Cathy Gale ]] and as a judo black-belt. So there was probably a certain perception that nobody throws Honor Blackman around unless she ''lets'' them do it. (An accurate perception, too. Honor Blackman's a real-life {{Badass}}, badass, and could probably take Connery in a fight.) Certainly Blackman doesn't play the scene like she's ''really'' being forced - Pussy seems to enjoy (genuinely, non-[[DeadlyEuphemism euphemistically]]) "playing hard to get".

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** I've always thought there was a level of ActorAllusion that mitigates it somewhat, but gets lost outside the UK, and due to the years since the film's release. At the time ''Goldfinger'' came out, Honor Blackman was best known as [[Series/TheAvengers the Avenger Cathy Gale ]] and as a judo black-belt. So there was probably a certain perception that nobody throws Honor Blackman around unless she ''lets'' them do it. (An accurate perception, too. Honor Blackman's a real-life {{Badass}}, and could probably take Connery in a fight.) Certainly Blackman doesn't play the scene like she's ''really'' being forced - Pussy seems to enjoy (genuinely, non-[[DeadlyEuphemism euphemistically]]) "playing hard to get".



*** There is a difference between "consent" and "non-resistence". It seems pretty clear from the scene that Pussy Galore isn't just rolling over and letting Bond have his way with her for fear of being hurt. She stopped resisting because ''she was enjoying it'' and wanted to keep making out with the hunky secret agent. The scene is still sketchy, just not for the reasons you just said.

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*** There is a difference between "consent" and "non-resistence"."non-resistance". It seems pretty clear from the scene that Pussy Galore isn't just rolling over and letting Bond have his way with her for fear of being hurt. She stopped resisting because ''she was enjoying it'' and wanted to keep making out with the hunky secret agent. The scene is still sketchy, just not for the reasons you just said.
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*** Felix is ''in the CIA'', and it's the height of the Cold War, and it's a military town. It wouldn't surprise me in the least that he'd order the entire town to play along and they would. Most likely the military would blockade the entire area, too, so that there wouldn't be outsiders who aren't in on the scheme. The book even mentions that ''Eisenhower himself'' (so presumably Johnson in the film) was taking direct command of the operation. So the army and the locals are going to do what they're told. After all, the realistic alternative is the bomb going off right there at Fort Knox, either deliberately or by accident.
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* Goldfinger's plan involves massacring the entire garrison or a US Army base and then setting off a nuke behind him, meanwhile killing any witnesses who could explain what actually happened. This movie was filmed and released less then two years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, wouldn't the first and most obvious conclusion the US Government would jump to is that it was a Soviet attack? Which would lead to a nuclear war? They don't even mention the possibility that I can recall.
** First, there would have been no accompanying reports of any missiles or bombers in US airspace at all. Second, Fort Knox itself would not be a good target for a single Soviet attack by air - it may hold the US Bullion Depositry but it's not a military threat against the Soviet Union (i.e., it doesn't house nuclear-capable missiles or bombers, which to the Soviets would be by far the much larger worry). Third, a single nuclear attack is also not something a superpower would rationally do, as reasoned by Stanislav Petrov: if you're going to attack with nukes, you're going to send [[AlphaStrike your entire arsenal all at once]]. It ''does'' leave the possibility that the Soviets may have tried "limited" underhanded sabotage, but there's more than enough evidence (I think) to at least give pause to SAC and Washington about launching retaliation against possibly the wrong target.

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* Goldfinger's plan involves massacring the entire garrison or of a US Army base and then setting off a nuke behind him, meanwhile killing any witnesses who could explain what actually happened. This movie was filmed and released less then two years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, wouldn't the first and most obvious conclusion the US Government would jump to is that it was a Soviet attack? Which would lead to a nuclear war? They don't even mention the possibility that I can recall.
** First, there would have been no accompanying reports of any missiles or bombers in US airspace at all. Second, Fort Knox itself would not be a good target for a single Soviet attack by air - it may hold the US Bullion Depositry Depository but it's not a military threat against the Soviet Union (i.e., it doesn't house nuclear-capable missiles or bombers, which to the Soviets would be by far the much larger worry). Third, a single nuclear attack is also not something a superpower would rationally do, as reasoned by Stanislav Petrov: if you're going to attack with nukes, you're going to send [[AlphaStrike your entire arsenal all at once]]. It ''does'' leave the possibility that the Soviets may have tried "limited" underhanded sabotage, but there's more than enough evidence (I think) to at least give pause to SAC and Washington about launching retaliation against possibly the wrong target.
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* Why is this considered one of the best bond movies, in my opinion it is one of the weaker entries. The villains plot makes no common sense the gold is already of the market so irradiating it will not really affect the price. Bond sleeps with villainesses who turn on their master without reason (in all other movies I have seen bad women he slept with and turned wear either unaware of or were unwilling participants in the big bads schemes) . The science of this world douses not fallow any laws of physics or biology that I have seen in any place even other bond films. And that is just scratching the surface and not getting into things like the possible rape of a lesbian. I am not complaining about this film or trolling I just want to know what other people see in it that I can not which will hopefully clear things up for me

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* Why is this considered one of the best bond movies, in Bond movies? In my opinion it is one of the weaker entries. The villains villain's plot makes no common sense sense: the gold is already of off the market so irradiating it will not really affect the price. Bond sleeps with villainesses who turn on their master without reason (in all other movies I have seen bad women he slept with and turned wear were either unaware of or were unwilling participants in the big bads schemes) . BigBad's schemes). The science of this world douses does not fallow follow any laws of physics or biology that I have seen in any place place, even other bond Bond films. And that is just scratching the surface and not getting into things like the possible rape of a lesbian. I am not complaining about this film or trolling I just want to know what other people see in it that I can not which will hopefully clear things up for meme.
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*** Of course in typical YMMV TV Tropes fashion this exact reason is why I consider this to be one of the best Bond flicks because that is ''exactly how'' a real agent would behave. ''The ends justify the means'' is how every single intelligence service works when it comes to protecting your country - its the same way the early Bonds used to slap women about or Roger Moore essentially raping Solitaire. Later incarnations of Bond made him whiter than white until Daniel Craig and even he hasn't gone so far as to assault women yet.

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*** Of course in typical YMMV TV Tropes fashion this exact reason is why I consider this to be one of the best Bond flicks because that is ''exactly how'' a real agent would behave. ''The ends justify the means'' is how every single intelligence service works when it comes to protecting your country - its it's the same way the early Bonds used to slap women about or Roger Moore essentially raping Solitaire. Later incarnations of Bond made him whiter than white until Daniel Craig and even he hasn't gone so far as to assault women yet.
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* How did Tilly buy Bond's "double blowout" excuse when the side of her car had been opened like a tin can between the two tires?

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* How did Tilly buy Bond's "double blowout" excuse "tire defect" explanation for her double blowout when the side of her car had been opened cut open like a tin can between the two tires?
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* Why exactly does Goldfinger need the laser for his heist? It's big, bulky, presumably needs a big bulky power supply, who knows how complex it might be or how subject to malfunction. Yet all he uses it for is to cut through the main door into the building. Why not just dynamite the door? We know he had explosives and the men to use it, because that's how he got through the front gate. Hell, it looks like a pretty flimsy door anyway, just ram a truck through it if you need to.

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* Why exactly does Goldfinger need the laser for his heist? It's big, bulky, presumably needs a big bulky power supply, who knows how complex it might be or how subject to malfunction. Yet all he uses it for is to cut through the main door into the building. Why not just dynamite the door? We know he had explosives and the men to use it, because that's how he got through the front gate. Hell, it looks like a pretty flimsy door anyway, just ram a truck through it if you need to.to.
* How did Tilly buy Bond's "double blowout" excuse when the side of her car had been opened like a tin can between the two tires?

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*** Even a small kiloton range detonation inside the depository will turn it into a crater, the gold will recieve a MASSIVE neutron dose and will be scattered over a huge area amongst highly radioactive dust. If we assume this is some sort of cobalt-style bomb it will be enormously expensive to ever go near the repository site for several years due to the radiation protection, after which a huge part of the gold will probably have dispersed on the wind or washed away (it wil be a fine mist of condensed gold vapour).
How you hide something like that in a country that isn't in 1984 is beyond me.

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*** Even a small kiloton range detonation inside the depository will turn it into a crater, the gold will recieve a MASSIVE neutron dose and will be scattered over a huge area amongst highly radioactive dust. If we assume this is some sort of cobalt-style bomb it will be enormously expensive to ever go near the repository site for several years due to the radiation protection, after which a huge part of the gold will probably have dispersed on the wind or washed away (it wil be a fine mist of condensed gold vapour).
vapour). How you hide something like that in a country that isn't in 1984 is beyond me.
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**** Even a small kiloton range detonation inside the depository will turn it into a crater, the gold will recieve a MASSIVE neutron dose and will be scattered over a huge area amongst highly radioactive dust. If we assume this is some sort of cobalt-style bomb it will be enormously expensive to ever go near the repository site for several years due to the radiation protection, after which a huge part of the gold will probably have dispersed on the wind or washed away (it wil be a fine mist of condensed gold vapour).
How you hide something like that in a country that isn't in 1984 is beyond me.
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*** Not a good excuse. Felix would have to gather all the armed forces in the area and convince them to fall down and play possum for God knows how long? Nuclear threat or not, a commander would say to hell with that and just rush Goldfinger's ranch in an attempt to get the bomb. It would probably be somewhere on the ranch anyway. And that's not even counting the civilians in the area (the film shows a car crash). You're telling me Felix was able to go door to door to anyone who might be travelling in the area and tell them they have to figuratively drop dead, putting their life and property at risk because some rich crazy might try to rob Fort Knox? At best he'd get the door slammed in his face.
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*** If memory serves, the scene in question is a holdover from the book, which is arranged slightly differently; in the book, Bond more or less coincidentally crosses paths with Goldfinger before being assigned to follow and investigate him, and this scene takes place before Bond gets his orders. In the film, Bond gets his orders directly from M before this scene, which gives rise to the plot-hole. As for why Bond does it regardless... well, in the films he's always been a bit cocky about letting the bad guys know he's watching them. As mentioned above, he probably just assumes that Goldfinger won't be bold enough to try anything.
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** People still believe the 10% of your brain nonsense. Once a false piece of information enters the public consciousness, it's then hard to convince them it's untrue.
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** Likely that he doesn't just enjoy the size of his stockpile in volume terms, but in value. I can well imagine him crowing over the fact that his gold is now worth far more than it was, even if he never plans to sell any of it.

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** Likely that he doesn't just enjoy the size of his stockpile in volume terms, but in value. I can well imagine him crowing over the fact that his gold is now worth far more than it was, even if he never plans to sell any of it.it.
* Why exactly does Goldfinger need the laser for his heist? It's big, bulky, presumably needs a big bulky power supply, who knows how complex it might be or how subject to malfunction. Yet all he uses it for is to cut through the main door into the building. Why not just dynamite the door? We know he had explosives and the men to use it, because that's how he got through the front gate. Hell, it looks like a pretty flimsy door anyway, just ram a truck through it if you need to.
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** It's essentially an attempt to "fix" the plot from the book, which was an actual robbery. In the film, Bond explains how ridiculous it would be to try and move that much gold. The writers saw this as a "more realistic" plan. However, it's not very good economically, either and as you pointed out doesn't really fit Goldfinger's particular obsession.

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** It's essentially an attempt to "fix" the plot from the book, which was an actual robbery. In the film, Bond explains how ridiculous it would be to try and move that much gold. The writers saw this as a "more realistic" plan. However, it's not very good economically, either and as you pointed out doesn't really fit Goldfinger's particular obsession.obsession.
** Likely that he doesn't just enjoy the size of his stockpile in volume terms, but in value. I can well imagine him crowing over the fact that his gold is now worth far more than it was, even if he never plans to sell any of it.

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