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* Since Tony had to sacrifice himself by remaining in another dimension while deactivating his arc reactor to defeat Ultron, why don't the Avengers just find another arc reactor for Tony? During the series premiere, he had a spare arc reactor when M.O.D.O.K. stole his suit, so being the genius that he is, shouldn't he have other spares lying around that they can use while they get rid of the one containing Ultron? Otherwise, Tony could also still communicate with everyone on Earth without being physically present and instruct Ant-Man and Falcon on how to make another arc reactor.
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* Since Tony had to sacrifice himself by remaining in another dimension while deactivating his arc reactor to defeat Ultron, why don't the Avengers just find another arc reactor for Tony? During the series premiere, he had a spare arc reactor when M.O.D.O.K. stole his suit, so being the genius that he is, shouldn't he have other spares lying around that they can use while they get rid of the one containing Ultron? Otherwise, Tony could also still communicate with everyone on Earth without being physically present and instruct Ant-Man and Falcon on how to make another arc reactor.
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* Did the Avengers do any background check on Marsh? Does that mean a spy can walk into Avengers headquarters and lie to them about working for the US government? My first thought was that Marsh was working for Hydra, and he was leading them to a trap. Sadly, this guy seems legit.
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* Did the Avengers do any background check on Marsh? Does that mean a spy can walk into Avengers headquarters and lie to them about working for the US government? My first thought was that Marsh was working for Hydra, and he was leading them to a trap. Sadly, this guy seems legit.
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*** There's lots of evidence to support that Season 4 of ''Ultimate Spiderman'' takes place before ''Ultron Revolution''. Ant-Man was still with the Avengers, as shown in ''Strange Little Halloween'', because he hadn't yet settled into L.A., which is what happened after he left the Avengers (because of Tony Stark). Also, Arnim Zola, not Baron Strucker, was leading Hydra in Season 4 of ''Ultimate Spiderman'', but since the former gets destroyed in ''Spider-Slayers'', that's how Hydra got split between Strucker and Baron Zemo. ''U-Foes'' also asserts that Hydra's numbers dwindled, and Spider-Man believed they've toppled Hydra, leading their ranks to be thinned out.
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** How would that happened, Heinrich entered the base thinking he could easily sabotage them, but he gets captured before he gets started. He was under the impression [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that the heroes made a beneficial mistake for him]], only to find the joke was on him. Ergo, it didn't look like he planned for this event.
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** Unfortunately this show isn't as concerned with consistence as much as it is for plot convenience. Against Thanos aging Thor making him more powerful was the way to get around Thanos using the Time Gem/Stone, while fighting against Kang having an Elder, weaker, and balding Thor worked for the plot of that episode and added humor.
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** I believe one of the reasons why the Fantastic Four as a group haven't been mentioned within the show or other connected shows is because the current Marvel cartoons are trying to emulate the Marvel Cinematic Universe or borrow more heavily from it than the comics. While Doom was added as a villain to the show they may have thought to leave out the Fantastic Four or that they weren't really needed to use Doom (I don't think they ever gave Doom an origin in this show either). Wolverine exists in this universe, but there has been no mention of mutants in general.
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** Best guess is that Zemo will break out, return to Hydra, and will continue to fight the Allies and eventually Cap and the timeline will be intact.
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* Dr. Doom has fought the Avengers, Hulk: Agents of SMASH, and Spider-man, but why aren't the Fantastic Four helping the Avengers fight him? Sure we see them in Hulk: Agents of SMASH (not all 4), but you never see them battle their arch nemesis. Not once has Dr. Doom mentioned Reed Richards, the guy man he hates the most.blames for his disfigurement.
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* Dr. Doom has fought the Avengers, Hulk: Agents of SMASH, and Spider-man, but why aren't the Fantastic Four helping the Avengers fight him? Sure we see them in Hulk: Agents of SMASH (not all 4), but you never see them battle their arch nemesis. Not once has Dr. Doom has mentioned Reed Richards, the guy he hates the most.
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* ''Saving Captain Rogers'' establishes that 1944 was the year Captain America went on a mission with Bucky with the main objective of capturing Heinrich Zemo. Additionally, it was also that mission that Steve Rogers lost Bucky, which led to his capture and subsequent brainwashing into the Winter Soldier. During ''House of Zemo'' Heinrich Zemo was pulled from 1943, but then sent back, only to land in America and get captured by young Steve Rogers. Wouldn't that mean that Cap never went on that mission if Zemo has already been captured, thus preventing him from losing Bucky and becoming the Winter Soldier?
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*** Which just makes it a tad annoying that crossovers are so rare. I'd really like to know what the Avengers were doing when Doc Ock turned Hydra Island into Octopus Island. Or what A-Bomb, She Hulk and Red Hulk have been doing since Agents got cancelled. A-Bomb especially seems like the kind of guy who would join a new group.
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* In S3E13 ''Into the Future'' we see an aging (and balding) Thor leading a new group of Avengers against Kang and he seems to be weaker. Back in season 2 when they fought Thanos it was established that Asgaurdians do not weaken with age. They grow stronger. We don't know how much Thanos aged Thor, only that he mentions centuries but Thor is able to attack Thanos and force him to turn back time to undo his mistake. Also Thor didn't lose his hair, he just grayed.
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* In S3E13 ''Into the Future'' we see an aging (and balding) Thor leading a new group of Avengers against Kang and he seems to be weaker. Back in season 2 when they fought Thanos it was established that Asgaurdians do not weaken with age. They grow stronger. We don't know how much Thanos aged Thor, only that he mentions centuries but Thor is able to attack Thanos and force him to turn back time to undo his mistake. Also Thor didn't lose his hair, he just grayed.
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So is this the same universe as ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' or not? Spider-Man himself has made multiple appearances and he's clearly the same iteration, but come Season 3 of ''this'' show, Beetle has gone from SHIELD-feared master assassin to walking joke as one of the Masters of Evil, and Klaw is somehow not only human again, but his cannon arm is now on the opposite side?
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** This, ''Ultimate Spider-Man'', ''Guardians of the Galaxy'', and ''Hulk and the Agents of SMASH'' are all in the same universe. However, they don't take place all at the same time (just because the episodes air on the same day doesn't mean they're happening at the same time) and some may be subject to BroadStrokes.
** This, ''Ultimate Spider-Man'', ''Guardians of the Galaxy'', and ''Hulk and the Agents of SMASH'' are all in the same universe. However, they don't take place all at the same time (just because the episodes air on the same day doesn't mean they're happening at the same time) and some may be subject to BroadStrokes.
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So is this the same universe as ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' or not? Spider-Man himself has made multiple appearances and he's clearly the same iteration, but come Season 3 of ''this'' show, Beetle has gone from SHIELD-feared master assassin to walking joke as one of the Masters of Evil, and Klaw is somehow not only human again, but his cannon arm is now on the opposite side?
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Why? Because people are entitled to their opinions. Blaming other people as bias is, in itself, bigoted. Removed.
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* Why exactly does the YMMV page praise Falcon's stupid [[Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman Gatchaman]]-knockoff suit just because it looks more armor-like, when his old look didn't look that much more spandex-y than the Iron Spider armor? (Sans the more reflective surface) The other heroes don't really look that much like the MCU versions anyway: Thor has his helmet and no beard, Widow is nearly identical to the comics (no guns and long hair), and Cap looks more like the Ultimate version if anything.
** The Iron Spidey armor, aside from the reflective surface, at least cover the whole body , making it more or less believable that it could be a really flexible metallic armor. Falcon's old suit, in addition of being spandexy, had a mask that clearly wasn't armor-based and didn't cover his hands. Despite this it was still treated like an "armor" when it was clearly spandex. At least his new design ''look'' like an actual armor, even if it still looks silly for different reasons.
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* Why exactly does the YMMV page praise Falcon's stupid [[Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman Gatchaman]]-knockoff suit just because it looks more armor-like, when his old look didn't look that much more spandex-y than the Iron Spider armor? (Sans the more reflective surface) The other heroes don't really look that much like the MCU versions anyway: Thor has his helmet and no beard, Widow is nearly identical to the comics (no guns and long hair), and Cap looks more like the Ultimate version if anything.
** The Iron Spidey armor, aside from the reflective surface, at least cover the whole body , making it more or less believable that it could be a really flexible metallic armor. Falcon's old suit, in addition of being spandexy, had a mask that clearly wasn't armor-based and didn't cover his hands. Despite this it was still treated like an "armor" when it was clearly spandex. At least his new design ''look'' like an actual armor, even if it still looks silly for different reasons.
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** The Iron Spidey armor, aside from the reflective surface, at least cover the whole body , making it more or less believable that it could be a really flexible metallic armor. Falcon's old suit, in addition of being spandexy, had a mask that clearly wasn't armor-based and didn't cover his hands. Despite this it was still treated like an "armor" when it was clearly spandex. At least his new design ''look'' like an actual armor, even if it still looks silly for different reasons.
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** Because Hyperion's abilities are more suited to the task. Nuke was basically a battery for Hyperion, who is able to do more damage with the same amount of juice.
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** Who says that it's a continuation? I think it's a confirmation that AvengersAssemble and AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes are in different continuities.
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** Who says that it's a continuation? I think it's a confirmation that AvengersAssemble ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' and AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' are in different continuities.
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** The Cabal actually first debuted in "Acts of Vengeance" and has always been more about the Masterminds of the Marvel Universe coming together, which is more what Skull did.
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* Why exactly does the YMMV page praise Falcon's stupid [[Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman Gatchaman]]-knockoff suit just because it looks more armor-like, when his old look didn't look that much more spandex-y than the Iron Spider armor? (Sans the more reflective surface) The other heroes don't really look that much like the MCU versions anyway: Thor has his helmet and no beard, Widow is nearly identical to the comics (no guns and long hair), and Cap looks more like the Ultimate version if anything.
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* Why exactly does the YMMV page praise Falcon's stupid [[Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman Gatchaman]]-knockoff suit just because it looks more armor-like, when his old look didn't look that much more spandex-y than the Iron Spider armor? (Sans the more reflective surface) The other heroes don't really look that much like the MCU versions anyway: Thor has his helmet and no beard, Widow is nearly identical to the comics (no guns and long hair), and Cap looks more like the Ultimate version if anything.
