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* The first movie has a joke where the smell of brimstone is blamed upon Shrek, to which Shrek tells him, "If it was ''me'', you'd be dead." This just seems like hyperbole at first, until you remember the beginning of the movie where Shrek ''did'' kill a fish with his flatulence...
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* In truth, the whole first movie is a very lighthearted take on some very serious situations. Let's look at our main cast: Fiona, alone in a tower, and in reality would be completely insane from solitary confinement. Shrek, living, you guessed it, ''alone'', because his only view of the world is that it hates him. Donkey, friendless, but a hopeless optimist. Farquaad, ruling, yet again, ''alone'', with a Napolean complex and no one but a magic mirror to keep him company. Hell, the ''whole cast'' is just lonely, before anything else.

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* In truth, the whole first movie is a very lighthearted take on some very serious situations. Let's look at our main cast: Fiona, alone in a tower, and in reality would be completely insane from solitary confinement. Shrek, living, you guessed it, ''alone'', because his only view of the world is that it hates him. Donkey, friendless, but a hopeless optimist. Farquaad, ruling, yet again, ''alone'', with a Napolean Napoleon complex and no one but a magic mirror to keep him company. Hell, the ''whole cast'' is just lonely, before anything else.

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* In the third film, Shrek tells Artie that when he was a baby, his father tried to ''eat'' him. No wonder he wants to be left alone in the first film, as if this statement is anything to go by, he had an abusive childhood so it seemed like the whole world hated him, including his parents. [[TheWoobie Poor guy...]]



* In Shrek 2, Lillian brings up the subject of Shrek and Fiona's children and Shrek is so horrified by it that he swallows his spoon. In Shrek the third, he again expresses his fear of fatherhood by saying he is afraid of being a bad father. Based on what Shrek says about his father to Artie, we can guess that Shrek had a very abusive childhood. It isn't uncommon for there to be a cycle of abuse. We never see or hear of Shrek's parents besides that so we can assume either they are dead or Shrek never spoke to them again. That was Shrek's fear, that he would repeat what he endured as a child and abuse his own children and his children would disown him, like he had with his parents.

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* In Shrek 2, Lillian brings up the subject of Shrek and Fiona's children and Shrek is so horrified by it that he swallows his spoon. In Shrek the third, he again expresses his fear of fatherhood by saying he is afraid of being a bad father. Based on what Shrek says about his father to Artie, Artie (when Shrek was a baby, his father tried to ''eat'' him!), we can guess that Shrek had a very abusive childhood. It isn't uncommon for there to be a cycle of abuse. We never see or hear of Shrek's parents besides that so we can assume either they are dead or Shrek never spoke to them again. That was Shrek's fear, that he would repeat what he endured as a child and abuse his own children and his children would disown him, like he had with his parents.
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* In ''Forever After'''s alternate universe, Donkey says that he needs his job pulling the witches' carriage because he doesn't want to go back to Old McDonald. Considering his ragged appearance and the way the witches whip him when they want him to sing different songs, just how bad must his old job have been?

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* In ''Forever After'''s alternate universe, Donkey says that he needs his job pulling the witches' carriage because he doesn't want to go back to Old McDonald.[=Old McDonald=]. Considering his ragged appearance and the way the witches whip him when they want him to sing different songs, just how bad must his old job have been?
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* In truth, the whole first movie is a very lighthearted take on some very serious situations. Let's look at our main cast: Fiona, alone in a tower, and in reality would be completely insane from solitary confinement. Shrek, living, you guessed it, ''alone'', because his only view of the world is that it hates him. Donkey, friendless, but a hopeless optimist. Farquaad, ruling, yet again, ''alone'', with a Napolean complex and no one but a magic mirror to keep him company. Hell, the ''whole cast'' is just lonely, before anything else.


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** Spending upwards of 20 years alone in a tower with nothing but storybooks? By all accounts, Fiona should be ''completely insane'' from solitary confinement.
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* In the third film, we meet Fiona's four princess friends: Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and Rapunzel, the last of whom is a turncoat who sells them out to Prince Charming. There's some foreshadowing there, with Rapunzel's bickering with the others being far less good-natured than most of their friendly ribbing, implying Rapunzel is TheFriendNobodyLikes. There's probably a good reason for that, one that neither the film nor WordOfGod would ever be allowed to say out loud: the reason the other princesses pick on Rapunzel, and the reason for her bitterness that leads to her FaceHeelTurn, is probably that she's the only one of the foursome who doesn't have a Disney film. Disney wouldn't make [[Disney/{{Tangled}} a Rapunzel film]] until five years later, while the first three had been Disney characters for over half a century. In some weird fourth-wall-breaking way, Rapunzel is probably somehow aware that she's not at all on equal footing with the other three.
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**There's confirmation about Shrek's abusive childhood on the musical, the first number has his parents sending him to move away from their house at age seven.
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** Then there's Robin Hood in 1, with his entourage of backup musicians/dancers and his attempt to be a HeroOfAnotherStory resulting in VanHelsingHatecrimes, and then failing at that.
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* Shrek compares Ogres to onions might not make sense at first, but if you know anything about onions you know that despite you might think they are easily bruised. In other words Shrek is trying to that Ogres have feelings too.
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* Shrek compares Ogres to onions might not make sense at first, but if you know anything about onions you know that despite you might think they are easily bruised. In other words Shrek is trying to that Ogres have feelings too.
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** He doesn't say that she is unattractive, he actually does state that she is pretty. He seems more like he is stumbling on his words as he has never felt this way before and doesn't know how to confess his feelings.

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* In ''Shrek 2'', when Fiona wakes up after the "Happily Ever After" potion takes effect, she screams when she sees her human self in the mirror. Of course, she has no idea of the potion at this point yet. So, the reason for the scream? She most likely thought the curse that had affected her almost her whole life was active again, because she was human during the day and an ogress at night, and she had fainted thanks to the potion the night before.



* it may seem odd that Little Red Riding Hood has a cameo as a villain in Shrek 3, but then remember that her enemy the Big Bad Wolf is one of the good guys.
** Or she might be getting revenge on Shrek and Fiona...because they scared her off during their honeymoon in the second film.

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* it It may seem odd that Little Red Riding Hood has a cameo as a villain in Shrek 3, but then remember that her enemy the Big Bad Wolf is one of the good guys.
** Or she might be getting revenge on Shrek and Fiona... because they scared her off during their honeymoon in the second film.film. If so, that's DisproportionateRetribution right there.



** And forshadowed, when he talks about the sunflower. He doesn't like it, but since Fiona is "pretty", she might. He thinks Fiona is unattractive, and says so!

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** And forshadowed, foreshadowed, when he talks about the sunflower. He doesn't like it, but since Fiona is "pretty", she might. He thinks Fiona is unattractive, and says so!



** This may double as Fridge Horror: He is literally sending all of the annoying cartoony animals to live with a sociopathic Ogre that is well known for butchering people. He may have just been hoping Shrek would eat/kill/maim them all!

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** This may double as Fridge Horror: FridgeHorror: He is literally sending all of the annoying cartoony animals to live with a sociopathic Ogre that is well known for butchering people. He may have just been hoping Shrek would eat/kill/maim them all!
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* ''{{Shrek}}'' has a pretty good one. In the beginning of the movie, the 3 bears (Papa, Mama, and Baby) are arrested by Farquaad's men. In the middle of the movie, you can see a bear skin rug with a pink bow on its head on the floor of Farquaad's bedroom. At the end, when all the fairy tale characters are freed and dancing, only Papa Bear and Baby Bear are seen. That means that Mama Bear has been killed and skinned.

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* ''{{Shrek}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' has a pretty good one. In the beginning of the movie, the 3 bears (Papa, Mama, and Baby) are arrested by Farquaad's men. In the middle of the movie, you can see a bear skin rug with a pink bow on its head on the floor of Farquaad's bedroom. At the end, when all the fairy tale characters are freed and dancing, only Papa Bear and Baby Bear are seen. That means that Mama Bear has been killed and skinned.
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* In Shrek 2, Lillian brings up the subject of Shrek and Fiona's children and Shrek is so horrified by it that he swallows his spoon. In Shrek the third, he again expresses his fear of fatherhood by saying he is afraid of being a loving father. Based on what Shrek says about his father to Artie, we can guess that Shrek had a very abusive childhood. It isn't uncommon for there to be a cycle of abuse. We never see or hear of Shrek's parents besides that so we can assume either they are dead or Shrek never spoke to them again. That was Shrek's fear, that he would repeat what he endured as a child and abuse his own children and his children would disown him, like he had with his parents.

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* In Shrek 2, Lillian brings up the subject of Shrek and Fiona's children and Shrek is so horrified by it that he swallows his spoon. In Shrek the third, he again expresses his fear of fatherhood by saying he is afraid of being a loving bad father. Based on what Shrek says about his father to Artie, we can guess that Shrek had a very abusive childhood. It isn't uncommon for there to be a cycle of abuse. We never see or hear of Shrek's parents besides that so we can assume either they are dead or Shrek never spoke to them again. That was Shrek's fear, that he would repeat what he endured as a child and abuse his own children and his children would disown him, like he had with his parents.
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*In Shrek 2, Lillian brings up the subject of Shrek and Fiona's children and Shrek is so horrified by it that he swallows his spoon. In Shrek the third, he again expresses his fear of fatherhood by saying he is afraid of being a loving father. Based on what Shrek says about his father to Artie, we can guess that Shrek had a very abusive childhood. It isn't uncommon for there to be a cycle of abuse. We never see or hear of Shrek's parents besides that so we can assume either they are dead or Shrek never spoke to them again. That was Shrek's fear, that he would repeat what he endured as a child and abuse his own children and his children would disown him, like he had with his parents.
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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. [[InferredHolocaust ''And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'']] Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.

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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate separate beings. [[InferredHolocaust ''And And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'']] ]] Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.
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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. ''And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.

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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. [[InferredHolocaust ''And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'' '']] Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.
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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. ''This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.

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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. ''This This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. And ''And all of the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased completely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.
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* Also William Fitzooth, Robert's father, was of born Norman and Saxon parentage so it isn't like French would have been unknown to Robin.
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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. ''This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. ''All of these characters' existences were erased entirely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.

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* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. ''This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. ''All And all of these the alternate timeline characters' existences were erased entirely.completely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.
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\n* In ''Forever After'' it is implied that only one timeline can exist at a time- the original timeline is replaced by the alternate timeline, and then replaced again by the original timeline when Rumple's deal is broken. When this happens all of the alternate timeline characters are "poofed" out of existence as their reality crumbles. They are then replaced by their original counterparts- yet Shrek is the only one who retains any memories of the alternate reality. ''This means that the original timeline characters and alternate reality characters were seperate beings. ''All of these characters' existences were erased entirely.'' Alternate Fiona never got to experience having children with Shrek or living in a tyranny-free world because she disappeared from existence 10 seconds later.
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\n* In ''Forever After'''s alternate universe, Donkey says that he needs his job pulling the witches' carriage because he doesn't want to go back to Old McDonald. Considering his ragged appearance and the way the witches whip him when they want him to sing different songs, just how bad must his old job have been?

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** This may double as Fridge Horror: He is literally sending all of the annoying cartoony animals to live with a sociopathic Ogre that is well known for butchering people. He may have just been hoping Shrek would eat/kill/maim them all!
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\n* Fiona spent the vast of her majority of her childhood in complete isolation, with absolutely nobody to talk to, just waiting for rescue. The musical explores just how terrible this must have been in the song "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XsEEuQfWI I Know It's Today]]".

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* Similar to [[Tropers/EmperorOshron my]] moment of Fridge Brilliance for [[Fridge/RobinHood Disney's Robin Hood]], this occurred to me recently. It may be surprising for viewers that Robin Hood in ''Shrek'' is apparently French, since he comes from English folklore. However, during the historical period in which Robin Hood would have existed, England was ruled by the '''French''' Plantagenet dynasty.
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** That makes sense. In her song, she mentions landing a "prince with perfect hair and sexy tush." And what is one of the things most complimented about Charming?
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** Or she might be getting revenge on Shrek and Fiona...because they scared her off during their honeymoon in the second film.
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* The only characters in the series who have Disney-style in-universe musical numbers, as opposed to scenes set to popular real-life songs, are Fairy Godmother (Shrek 2) and Prince Charming (Shrek the Third), and both of them actually do a stage-setting for those numbers (Fairy Godmother [[AWizardDidIt with magic]], Prince Charming the old-fashioned way). And of course it makes sense as both a {{Deconstruction}} of Disney musical numbers, showing the need for stage-setting, and a TakeThat, considering that both characters are ''villains''.
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* In the second movie, Shrek reads Fiona's childhood diary where she has written about how she looks forward to marrying a young, handsome Prince Charming. While reading, he gets startled by the King knocking on the door and lets out a yelp. Later when he confronts the king about it he says that he was just reading a horror story. I didn't think of this moment much until my brother pointed out that it basically ''is'' a horror story to ''him''; Fiona's childhood dreams are pretty much crushed because she never married Prince Charming she wished to as a child, since she married Shrek, an ogre, ergo he lives in fear that she ''still lives with these dreams deep down and will never be truly happy with Shrek.''

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* In the second movie, Shrek reads Fiona's childhood diary where she has written about how she looks forward to marrying a young, handsome Prince Charming. While reading, he gets startled by the King king knocking on the door and lets out a yelp. Later when he confronts the king about it he says that he was just reading a horror story. I didn't think of this moment much until my brother pointed out that it basically ''is'' a horror story to ''him''; Fiona's childhood dreams are pretty much crushed because she never married Prince Charming she wished to as a child, since she married Shrek, an ogre, ergo he lives in fear that she ''still lives with these dreams deep down and will never be truly happy with Shrek.''
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* In the second movie, Shrek reads Fiona's childhood diary where she has written about how she looks forward to marrying a young, handsome Prince Charming. While reading, he gets startled by the King knocking on the door and lets out a yelp. Later when he confronts the king about it he says that he was just reading a horror story. I didn't think of this moment much until my brother pointed out that it basically ''is'' a horror story to ''him''; Fiona's childhood dreams are pretty much crushed because she never married Prince Charming she wished to as a child, since she married Shrek, an ogre, ergo he lives in fear that she ''still lives with these dreams deep down and will never be happy with Shrek.''

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* In the second movie, Shrek reads Fiona's childhood diary where she has written about how she looks forward to marrying a young, handsome Prince Charming. While reading, he gets startled by the King knocking on the door and lets out a yelp. Later when he confronts the king about it he says that he was just reading a horror story. I didn't think of this moment much until my brother pointed out that it basically ''is'' a horror story to ''him''; Fiona's childhood dreams are pretty much crushed because she never married Prince Charming she wished to as a child, since she married Shrek, an ogre, ergo he lives in fear that she ''still lives with these dreams deep down and will never be truly happy with Shrek.''

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